Random Gaming Talk Thread

[Svejk]

what annoys me the most is im actually considering buying a ps5 for ff16 but that's so much money just to play one stupid rpg

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1651360910764818433

Of course Japan gets the better bundle with custom faceplates and DS skin.  US gets nothing. 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/KindaFunnyVids/status/1654108618990530561

https://twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1654131294140506116

"If you build great games everything would just turn around. That is just not true."

Xbox is dead

Long live GamePass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwfEQ1eEyM

[Himu]

Xbox is dead. Right. Looking forward to Armored Core VI on my...wow lookie here, my Xbox.

[Himu]

When you have a library of about 300 PS4 games, you'd be distinguished mentally-challenged not to carry on with a system that's BC with them and play them better; whether it's performance or way faster loading.  To each their own.  I'm happy as fuck with my Fif.   

This is precisely my point. The only reason PS5 is the top dog this gen isn't even out of merit for the system. It's because of loyalty to PS4 and to the brand. I've never seen any system ever in my life get that kind of propped up false sense of superiority besides maybe the SNES and the SNES earned its crown within three years. PS5 still hasn't.

PS5 is the Apple of modern consoles. A brand whose main claim to victory is past victories that people lap up because of nothing more than hype, brand recognition, and scarcity (ohhhh you have the new Apple ___?) to show off.

[thetylerrob]

Wait a minute..... if PS5 is pointless, and Xbox is dead, and PC games are all broken, and the Switch is a 15 fps 2013 android potato, are video games shitty right now or something? 

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lmao 2023 is one of the best years in awhile for video games tho Resident Evil 4, SF6, FF16, Diablo 4, Zelda

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[Himu]

Wait a minute..... if PS5 is pointless, and Xbox is dead, and PC games are all broken, and the Switch is a 15 fps 2013 android potato, are video games shitty right now or something? 

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lmao 2023 is one of the best years in awhile for video games tho Resident Evil 4, SF6, FF16, Diablo 4, Zelda

[close]

Real talk it truly is. We are all eating sonthe console wars feels utterly pointless.

[Potato]

What has Sony done that Microsoft hasn't though?

Released first-party and 'exclusive' (not really because they're also on PC) games that people are actually buying.

I agree they've done a shit job too though.  I like Microsoft a lot more than Sony, because they've made it so that I don't need an Xbox at all since everything is on PC.  Thanks, Phil!
 

Every single one of those games is available on the PS4 though or they are just remakes of old games with a shiny new paint job. This generation baffles me. Scarcity is the only explanation, because if I had dropped AU$800 on one of those things 2.5 years ago, I'd be writing a sternly worded email to Sony demanding an explanation...

[Nintex]

Wait a minute..... if PS5 is pointless, and Xbox is dead, and PC games are all broken, and the Switch is a 15 fps 2013 android potato, are video games shitty right now or something? 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

lmao 2023 is one of the best years in awhile for video games tho Resident Evil 4, SF6, FF16, Diablo 4, Zelda

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The generation is pretty awesome but mostly thanks to Nintendo, Capcom, Square Enix and others. Although it also depends on how much you enjoy remasters and remakes.

It's mostly Xbox that is failing and now its obvious why. This is far removed from what they pitched us with the Xbox Series X, the most powerful console on the planet.
Originally it would 'Power your dreams' bring back the glory days of HALO in addition to many new AAAA first party games and third party games running better than they would on other platforms thanks to smart delivery and all that jazz.

Now the message is that they're no longer competing and are instead happy in their corner selling mid GaaS games through their subscription service but the last one turned out a teensy bit worse than they expected (he says internal mock reviews were off by double digits). No worries though they'll patch in 60fps and it will grow like the other mid gaas games like Sea of Thieves and Grounded. And after this response he says that great games won't really change their fortunes anyway. My dude, the only reason we bought your box is to play great games. Xbox is now the ghetto budget brand, the 'best deal' in gaming. However, that deal is going to get worse because Phil confirms in the interview that it's kind of hard to make (exclusive) deals for your platform if your platform is mid.

If PS5 Pro hits in 2024 as rumored and Xbox has no answer (and they don't seem interested in that AAAA gaming market anymore) we could see a lot of Xbox fans jumping ship mid-gen.
Phil says he's honest and shit but if my dude said this 3 years ago I wouldn't have paid 500 Eurodollar for the Series X in anticipation of great games.

[Potato]

Wait a minute..... if PS5 is pointless, and Xbox is dead, and PC games are all broken, and the Switch is a 15 fps 2013 android potato, are video games shitty right now or something? 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

lmao 2023 is one of the best years in awhile for video games tho Resident Evil 4, SF6, FF16, Diablo 4, Zelda

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It's mostly Xbox that is failing and now its obvious why. This is far removed from what they pitched us with the Xbox Series X, the most powerful console on the planet.
Originally it would 'Power your dreams' bring back the glory days of HALO in addition to many new AAAA first party games and third party games running better than they would on other platforms thanks to smart delivery and all that jazz.

It's almost as if a console's power does nothing to improve how enjoyable a game is...
 

[Sideshow Raheem]

People are surprised at Redfall? Bethesda has always made crappy, buggy games.

The good Bethesda games are either the exception, or the ones where people smile and eat the crap as if it was corn flakes.

[james]

The last non-Nintendo console I bought was PS2

I hate to say i told you all

[paprikastaude]

just remakes of old games with a shiny new paint job.

Only Metroid Prime/Advance Wars is the same thing with a new paint job. RE4 was made completely new, like movie remakes do it. FF7 Remake/Rebirth literally a sequel in disguise. (Dead Space kinda inbetween)

Every single one of those games is available on the PS4 though

It's almost as if a console's power does nothing to improve how enjoyable a game is...

2010 hardware that flies off like a jet engine during 1 minute loadtimes is not enjoyable. Switch will only run like a single top game this year because it's too weak. I guess there's PCs, but who wants to buy 2k$ graphic cards that no developer optimises for.

Now keep whining while I play cool shit like Resident Evil and Yakuza Street Fighter and Armored Core, console war baby 

[Potato]

Enjoy your remakes and PS4 games while I play GOTY Tears of the Kingdom.

PS5 remains a bad investment.

[Polident Hive]

Being honest, it has been a PS4 Pro Pro for me, and it’s been cool. Is it a mild cope? Probably. But far more games than I anticipated got PS5 patches.

Zelda will be the first 30 fps game I’ll play in some time.

[Svejk]

Let us not forget the spiritual successor of JSR coming this year too!  Only thing to make this year unbreakable would be Dragon's Dogma 2, but that's a massive stretch. 

[bork]

What has Sony done that Microsoft hasn't though?

Released first-party and 'exclusive' (not really because they're also on PC) games that people are actually buying.

I agree they've done a shit job too though.  I like Microsoft a lot more than Sony, because they've made it so that I don't need an Xbox at all since everything is on PC.  Thanks, Phil!
 

Every single one of those games is available on the PS4 though or they are just remakes of old games with a shiny new paint job.

Titles like Returnal, Demon's Souls, Astro's Play Room, Ratchet & Clank: A Rift Apart, and the upcoming Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade are not on PS4. Final Fantasy XVI too if you want to count that.  It's just a very small list of games, but they're not going to keep releasing games on both PS4 and PS5 forever.

Note that I am with you on the PS5 being a waste.  I have never had a console that just sat there literally gathering dust like this thing has before.  Everything I want to play is on PC and that includes some of these so-called "exclusive" Sony games.

The only exception for me might be Stellar Blade.  Nobody seems to know for sure if it's coming to PC now that Sony money-hatted it...but I bet it will. 

[bork]

what annoys me the most is im actually considering buying a ps5 for ff16 but that's so much money just to play one stupid rpg

Just wait for it to come out on PC.

[MMaRsu]

Returnal, Demon's Souls, Astro's Play Room, Ratchet & Clank: A Rift Apart, and the upcoming Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade

Thats a really small handfull of titles that are good

[bork]

just remakes of old games with a shiny new paint job.

Only Metroid Prime/Advance Wars is the same thing with a new paint job. RE4 was made completely new, like movie remakes do it. FF7 Remake/Rebirth literally a sequel in disguise. (Dead Space kinda inbetween)

Every single one of those games is available on the PS4 though

It's almost as if a console's power does nothing to improve how enjoyable a game is...

2010 hardware that flies off like a jet engine during 1 minute loadtimes is not enjoyable. Switch will only run like a single top game this year because it's too weak. I guess there's PCs, but who wants to buy 2k$ graphic cards that no developer optimises for.

Now keep whining while I play cool shit like Resident Evil and Yakuza Street Fighter and Armored Core, console war baby 

All of which are on PC and look/run better than the console versions. 
 

You can get an awesome gaming PC for under $2000 BTW. Like the whole thing and not just the GPU. 

[bork]

Returnal, Demon's Souls, Astro's Play Room, Ratchet & Clank: A Rift Apart, and the upcoming Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade

Thats a really small handfull of titles that are good

Yup; there's really not much available in the way of PS5-only titles worth checking out.  That's pretty much why I don't care about it, especially when most of the Sony first-party stuff doesn't appeal to me.  All the cool and quirky Japanese-developed games they used to release have gone the way of the dodo.  The third-person 'cinematic adventure' shit is

Oh, you can add Neptunia ReVerse to the list, even if it is just the first game re-re-released with some added content.

This gen is all about a lot of excellent third-party developed games that are on all the platforms.  Nintendo being the exception.

[Svejk]

What has Sony done that Microsoft hasn't though?

Released first-party and 'exclusive' (not really because they're also on PC) games that people are actually buying.

I agree they've done a shit job too though.  I like Microsoft a lot more than Sony, because they've made it so that I don't need an Xbox at all since everything is on PC.  Thanks, Phil!
 

Every single one of those games is available on the PS4 though or they are just remakes of old games with a shiny new paint job.

Titles like Returnal, Demon's Souls, Astro's Play Room, Ratchet & Clank: A Rift Apart, and the upcoming Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade are not on PS4. Final Fantasy XVI too if you want to count that.  It's just a very small list of games, but they're not going to keep releasing games on both PS4 and PS5 forever.

Note that I am with you on the PS5 being a waste.  I have never had a console that just sat there literally gathering dust like this thing has before. Everything I want to play is on PC and that includes some of these so-called "exclusive" Sony games.

The only exception for me might be Stellar Blade.  Nobody seems to know for sure if it's coming to PC now that Sony money-hatted it...but I bet it will. 

You just described my Switch.    For the 3 years I've had it, only games I've played and enjoyed on it have been Link's Awakening and Metroid 5.  Mario Odyssey was way overly hyped and was not impressed with it.  Tears is the main reason I got this thing, so hopefully it really is more than just BOTW 2.0.  I have a pretty good feeling I'm going to play it until FFXVI drops next month and then just play it in small spurts afterwards and maybe never even finish it.  It'll be the better Zelda over BOTW, but it's not the Zelda of old we all once knew.  Games like Dread and LA give me that small, slither of hope Nintendo does acknowledge these styles are still highly desired.
But still...  I paid $300 for a android tablet for 2 games I can emulate with np??  If I didn't have kids, this thing would be punted to the curb.

And y'all have fun playing PC Returnal without the DualSense functions.  Missing out on a core gameplay element.

[bork]

And y'all have fun playing PC Returnal without the DualSense functions.  Missing out on a core gameplay element.

1.
2. Dual Sense works on PC, lol

And bruh, you are gonna have a hard time getting rid of that boner you're gonna be popping for ToTK and you know it.   

[Svejk]

And y'all have fun playing PC Returnal without the DualSense functions.  Missing out on a core gameplay element.

1.
2. Dual Sense works on PC, lol

And bruh, you are gonna have a hard time getting rid of that boner you're gonna be popping for ToTK and you know it.   

Aw shit, I was wrong..  Just looked it up.  PC does support the adaptive triggers and haptics.  Now I got 2 systems that support it then.   

[tiesto]

Returnal, Demon's Souls, Astro's Play Room, Ratchet & Clank: A Rift Apart, and the upcoming Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade

Thats a really small handfull of titles that are good

And even so...
Returnal - roguelike style gameplay may not be to everyone's taste
Demon's Souls - awesome but a remake
Astro's Playroom - probably the best exclusive, but it's also 2 hours long to platinum, more of a tech demo of the Dualsense
Ratchet - beautiful-looking game but dated gameplay and level design from like the PS2 era

FF16 is the one exclusive that I'm hoping is interesting... otherwise, the majority of my PS5 playtime goes to PS4 games or cross-gen games.

Truthfully though, a lot of my playtime goes to games that don't really push any sort of graphical boundaries (*cough*Falcom*cough*) and if I didn't stumble into a PS5 and get a Series X as a gift, I probably would've been content sticking with a PS4/Switch up till SF6 and FF16.

[Bebpo]

fwiw, I use my PS5/Switch/PC every day for most of 2023. And that's with not much gaming time in 2023.

Xbox is probably interchangeable with PS5 outside the few Sony exclusives. I like those games so I'm happy with PS5 but if I didn't care for those games Xbox would fill that same gap with Switch and PC.

It helps that PS+ Extra is actually pretty legit Game Pass competitor these last few months. Giving me plenty to play on PS5.

Also a big factor is that at this point 99% of Xbox games and game pass games are playable on PC, so better to go PS5 than Xbox for me since I can play Sony exclusives on PS5 and Xbox exclusives on PC.

Let's see what I've played, though not necessarily finished/stuck with, for 2023:

PS5 - The Quarry (PS+), RE4 Remake, Spiritfarer (PS+), Tchia (PS+), Ghostwire Tokyo (PS+), Immortals Fenyx Rising (PS+), and will play Horizon 2's expansion, FF16, Spider-Man 2 later this year. Oh and they just added Kenia to PS+ and I wanted to play that and was waiting for it to be cheap or in a bundle. PS+ Extra has been adding at least one game a month I would've bought.

Switch - Xenoblade 3 DLC waves, Superbrothers Sword & Sworcery, Theaterhythm Final Bar (play this almost daily), and will play XB3 Expansion, Zelda 2 and maybe/probably Pikmin 4 this year.

PC - VA-11 Hall-A, Hitman Freelancer expansion, Eiyuden Rising (GP), 2064 Read Only Memories, FFXIV latest patches, Heaven Will Be Mine, Tunic (GP), Utwarerumono Prelude to the Fallen, Hi-Fi Rush (GP), Utawarerumono Mask of Deception, Paranormasight, and will continue to play FF14 and indies on PC all year


So everything is pretty actively used. Nothing collecting dust, although if it weren't for XB3's DLCs and Theaterhythm the Switch would've been mostly dusting until Zelda this year. But I'm not really a Nintendo guy outside a few of the big series. Prime remake is cool but not a priority for my backlog.

[Potato]

Again, I reiterate, this generation should not have started until now basically. If you bought in before now, you bought in on blind brand loyalty or FOMO. There certainly weren't any software reasons for doing so.

The transition has been poorly managed by MS and Sony and consumers are being taken for a ride, especially with rumours of a PS5 Pro in the wings.

I'm sure this generation will eventually be worthwhile. But until then, Polident Hive's description of it as a PS4 Pro Pro is bang on the money.

Most people seem to get it, but sometimes console warriors gotta console warrior.

[Svejk]

Maybe I was more unaware of cross-gen stuff last gen leap, but this particular one has been way more evident, and frankly, fucking bullshit the way it's been handled.  (Looking at you Sony)
But at the same time, I get that they want to get the game on as many systems as possible, let alone budgets and time frames. Cross gen is a curse for early endorsement in a way ..

That being said, I expect from here on out, for the most part, current gen next phase should be in full swing about now and this train ain't stopping.  The last half of PS2-4 eras were balls to the wall great.  Even XB was swinging with a full sack too.  More and more good shit is coming. 

[Svejk]

Again, I reiterate, this generation should not have started until now basically. If you bought in before now, you bought in on blind brand loyalty or FOMO. There certainly weren't any software reasons for doing so.

The transition has been poorly managed by MS and Sony and consumers are being taken for a ride, especially with rumours of a PS5 Pro in the wings.

I'm sure this generation will eventually be worthwhile. But until then, Polident Hive's description of it as a PS4 Pro Pro is bang on the money.

Most people seem to get it, but sometimes console warriors gotta console warrior.

So you're saying you are going to wait and see how the switch successor fairs for a few years till you decide if it's worth it or not?

[Potato]

Again, I reiterate, this generation should not have started until now basically. If you bought in before now, you bought in on blind brand loyalty or FOMO. There certainly weren't any software reasons for doing so.

The transition has been poorly managed by MS and Sony and consumers are being taken for a ride, especially with rumours of a PS5 Pro in the wings.

I'm sure this generation will eventually be worthwhile. But until then, Polident Hive's description of it as a PS4 Pro Pro is bang on the money.

Most people seem to get it, but sometimes console warriors gotta console warrior.

So you're saying you are going to wait and see how the switch successor fairs for a few years till you decide if it's worth it or not?

Depends. I'll look at the launch lineup and decide.

Chances are there's a new Mario Kart at launch which makes it pretty easy to jump in, especially considering the stellar job they did with Mario Kart 8 support. Metroid Prime 4 has to be close to launch too, so that will be a big factor. It's been a while since Mario Odyssey too, so chances are good that a new Mario game is going to feature in the launch window.

AI in all, there is a good chance that Nintendo launches their next console with a better lineup than either the PS5 or the XBSX have after 2.5 years.

[Himu]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

[Nintex]

It helps that PS+ Extra is actually pretty legit Game Pass competitor these last few months. Giving me plenty to play on PS5.

This is mostly what is causing the Xbox to fall behind. Sony has been able to match the early advantages of the Xbox and Microsoft dropped the ball on things that gave them an edge like no longer expanding the library of backwards compatibility and also not improving quick resume. Quick resume is busted on a lot of games now, especially if they have "singleplayer but online" components like Elden Ring and they haven't done anything to fix it. Sony looked at a couple of things that were lacking like backwards compatibility, VRR and 1440p support and fixed them.

Depends. I'll look at the launch lineup and decide.

Chances are there's a new Mario Kart at launch which makes it pretty easy to jump in, especially considering the stellar job they did with Mario Kart 8 support. Metroid Prime 4 has to be close to launch too, so that will be a big factor. It's been a while since Mario Odyssey too, so chances are good that a new Mario game is going to feature in the launch window.

AI in all, there is a good chance that Nintendo launches their next console with a better lineup than either the PS5 or the XBSX have after 2.5 years.

The rumors on the Switch 2 are interesting. I'm not sure if Prime 4 will be cross gen. I guess it depends on the launch timing of the Switch 2.

Apart from the next-gen patch for Pokemon Scarlet/Violet another project that has leaked is a new cross-gen Fire Emblem game using Unreal Engine 5, heavily rumored is a Metroid Dread sequel set to release in 2025, a new Donkey Kong game and a remaster of F-Zero GX from Next Level Games. Overall I think Nintendo will just continue with the same pace of releases but simply on new hardware. Your entire Switch library gets a 'default' update and then certain titles will get dedicated patches with higher resolutions or cross-gen releases until eventually everything is Switch 2 exclusive. I also expect great support from Japanese third party developers right out of the gate. Perhaps something like a 2D-4K remaster of Chrono Trigger and I would not be surprised if Nintendo moneyhatted some exclusives from Japanese developers. Nintendo basically has no reason to hold back once they open the flood gates.

[Bebpo]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

There were rumors last year that the next Mario game is done and they are just sitting on it. No point in releasing it too close to Zelda, otherwise they would have released it to coincide with the Mario movie.

So yeah, probably just saving it for Switch 2 launch at this point.

[Nintex]

There are not enough months in a year for Nintendo to release their games in 

[Svejk]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

But what big guns? Mario Odyssey 2? MP4 I suppose, but that's all they could bring that will be remotely be good. Like, Nintendo good. After 6 years, the Switch is finally getting it's first and only unique Zelda.  Won't see one of those again for quite some time. 

Again, I reiterate, this generation should not have started until now basically. If you bought in before now, you bought in on blind brand loyalty or FOMO. There certainly weren't any software reasons for doing so.

The transition has been poorly managed by MS and Sony and consumers are being taken for a ride, especially with rumours of a PS5 Pro in the wings.

I'm sure this generation will eventually be worthwhile. But until then, Polident Hive's description of it as a PS4 Pro Pro is bang on the money.

Most people seem to get it, but sometimes console warriors gotta console warrior.

So you're saying you are going to wait and see how the switch successor fairs for a few years till you decide if it's worth it or not?

Depends. I'll look at the launch lineup and decide.

Chances are there's a new Mario Kart at launch which makes it pretty easy to jump in, especially considering the stellar job they did with Mario Kart 8 support. Metroid Prime 4 has to be close to launch too, so that will be a big factor. It's been a while since Mario Odyssey too, so chances are good that a new Mario game is going to feature in the launch window.

AI in all, there is a good chance that Nintendo launches their next console with a better lineup than either the PS5 or the XBSX have after 2.5 years.

 
Same approach I took with PS5. Lol It had at least 2 games I really wanted to play.  I never played Demon's Souls, so that was worth the price of admission alone imo.  And Astrobot, although short, was a blast to play.. and it was a free pack in. Remember when Nintendo use to be cool and do that?  Other than that, I wasn't going to touch the PS5 for awhile (if at all) if it wasn't going to be BC.  But it was, and with pretty awesome enhancements and speed.  For the price of a Switch, and a used switch game, it was the best bang for the buck and well worth the price.  ...wish I could say the same about the psvr2.

That being said too, I really do hope for all our sakes the switch successor will be BC.  But Nintendo can be just as head scratching as Sony can be. 

[Himu]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

But what big guns? Mario Odyssey 2? MP4 I suppose, but that's all they could bring that will be remotely be good.

This is dumb at this point.

[Svejk]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

But what big guns? Mario Odyssey 2? MP4 I suppose, but that's all they could bring that will be remotely be good.

This is dumb at this point.

This was dumb awhile ago, but I played along.  Y'all enjoy Pokemon 56 and rehashed Mario Karts and Smash Bros, where none of those have changed since the N64 era.

[Svejk]

Let us not forget the spiritual successor of JSR coming this year too!  Only thing to make this year unbreakable would be Dragon's Dogma 2, but that's a massive stretch.

And totally forgot Suikoden! HD re-releases and it's spiritual successor!  We got it going on, bores.   

[Himu]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

But what big guns? Mario Odyssey 2? MP4 I suppose, but that's all they could bring that will be remotely be good.

This is dumb at this point.

This was dumb awhile ago, but I played along.  Y'all enjoy Pokemon 56 and rehashed Mario Karts and Smash Bros, where none of those have changed since the N64 era.

I cannot believe you are actually seriously console whore-ing in 2023.

[Bebpo]

Kind of annoyed there's no guitar tab version of this online. Probably my favorite arrangement I've heard of FF9's You Are Not Alone. Would be fun to play on guitar.

Also kind of annoying there's no full version of that track on youtube.

[Svejk]

Nintendo is clearly saving big guns such as a new Mario for the next system (which won't be a Switch Pro or refresh). It has been years since Bowser's Fury, which is a prototype for a new Mario. No new Mario announcement even during the season of Mario's first film in over 30 years. Nintendo is stocking that magazine with bullets and they've probably already got one in the chamber. Cha-Pow! Guaranteed.

But what big guns? Mario Odyssey 2? MP4 I suppose, but that's all they could bring that will be remotely be good.

This is dumb at this point.

This was dumb awhile ago, but I played along.  Y'all enjoy Pokemon 56 and rehashed Mario Karts and Smash Bros, where none of those have changed since the N64 era.

I cannot believe you are actually seriously console whore-ing in 2023.

(Image removed from quote.)

It's Friday..  had a shitty week and need a drink. Cut me some slack. 

[Potato]

My usual platform choices are PlayStation and Nintendo. That's been the case for more than a decade now. I recently picked up a new PC that can play modern games, so for the moment that has replaced the PlayStation and the Switch has kept me interested enough (although, my kids have taken over the Switch in the last few years). I'm happy for anyone who has found their value in this generation, enjoyment of video games is subjective after all, but objectively it has been very, very disappointing in general.

[Bebpo]

idk, I think if you feel like there aren't enough games to play, you just need to try more games?
There's literally more good games in existence than anyone could ever get through even if they have really narrow genre tastes.

Yes, most of these games are available on multiple platforms so you don't need new hardware, but play stuff wherever you want to.

[Potato]

My issue is that this current generation of consoles is pointless. Console generations have usually been ushered in by a new generation of games. For 2.5 years, this one has been 99% marked by games that were designed and built around the previous generation of consoles. What is the point?

[Polident Hive]

Not saying diminishing returns, but I don’t think the PS4 had it either. GTA5 is still being played and it’s an Xbox 360 game. Is GTA6 going to be as stark as GTASA to GTA4? Probably not. It is what it is. Biggest game this year will be on six year old portable hardware, hitting like Xbox 360++ power. (literally as I’m typing this there is a BOTW2 trailer playing on the train)

Maybe we need some outrageous fuck you fake CG gameplay to show what could be. Bring back Eight Days.

[HardcoreRetro]

*Looks up from the 360 game with a 4K patch and fps boost that he's playing on series X*

*Looks at thread and frowns*

*Continues enjoying Fable Anniversary*

[BIONIC]

My issue is that this current generation of consoles is pointless.

Yes, we heard you the first 500 times over the past two years.

[Potato]

My issue is that this current generation of consoles is pointless.

Yes, we heard you the first 500 times over the past two years.

Seems I need to repeat it for the fanboys at the back

[Nintex]

"It's just not true that if we go off and build great games, then all of a sudden, you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way.”



We must save Xbox from the Calamity Spencer.

[MMaRsu]

He's right though. Most people are set in their console direction, especially the gamer who buys their console for cod or fifa

[HardcoreRetro]

Real gamers only play on the best console of all time.

*Fires up his OUYA*

[MMaRsu]

[MMaRsu]

[Nintex]

He's right though. Most people are set in their console direction, especially the gamer who buys their console for cod or fifa

Plenty of examples when one great game or series of games turned the fortunes around for a console of platform.

Final Fantasy (it was literally Squares 'final' attempt to make a hit game)
Tetris (the perfect game for GameBoy, paved the way for handheld gaming dominance)
Sonic the Hedgehog (this made SEGA competitive with Nintendo)
Donkey Kong Country (allowed Nintendo to make a comeback against SEGA)
Final Fantasy VII (this sealed the deal for PlayStation becoming the #1 system for JRPG's)
Mario 64 (revolutionary game, without it the N64 wouldn't have been as succesful)
HALO (without HALO the Xbox wouldn't exist today)
Zelda BOTW (a single massive game that got Nintendo back on the map after the Wii U dumpster fire)
Half Life 2 (made everyone install STEAM)
Beatsaber (made VR relevant)
Half Life Alyx (allowed Valve to sell a $1000 VR set)



There's also plenty of other examples including Gears of War, Fire Emblem Awakening, Metal Gear Solid 2 and more.
A lack of great games is why the Series S doesn't sell. If Xbox Series had some must-play great exclusive games, Switch and PS5 owners would pick up a Series S as a second console just to play them.

[MMaRsu]

He's right though. Most people are set in their console direction, especially the gamer who buys their console for cod or fifa

Plenty of examples when one great game or series of games turned the fortunes around for a console of platform.

Final Fantasy (it was literally Squares 'final' attempt to make a hit game)
Tetris (the perfect game for GameBoy, paved the way for handheld gaming dominance)
Sonic the Hedgehog (this made SEGA competitive with Nintendo)
Donkey Kong Country (allowed Nintendo to make a comeback against SEGA)
Final Fantasy VII (this sealed the deal for PlayStation becoming the #1 system for JRPG's)
Mario 64 (revolutionary game, without it the N64 wouldn't have been as succesful)
HALO (without HALO the Xbox wouldn't exist today)
Zelda BOTW (a single massive game that got Nintendo back on the map after the Wii U dumpster fire)
Half Life 2 (made everyone install STEAM)
Beatsaber (made VR relevant)
Half Life Alyx (allowed Valve to sell a $1000 VR set)



There's also plenty of other examples including Gears of War, Fire Emblem Awakening, Metal Gear Solid 2 and more.
A lack of great games is why the Series S doesn't sell. If Xbox Series had some must-play great exclusive games, Switch and PS5 owners would pick up a Series S as a second console just to play them.

Thats all old shit bro

[Potato]

VR is relevant?

[benjipwns]

Donkey Kong Country (allowed Nintendo to make a comeback against SEGA)

Super Mario World and Street Fighter II did that first.

[Pissy F Benny]

Not in the Netherlands buddy.

[Himu]

Also FFVII did more than that for jrpgs. It was the most expensive game of all time at the time of its release and it gave a platform for more cinematic gaming.

[D3RANG3D]

https://www.timeextension.com/news/2022/10/arcade-manufacturer-zuiki-officially-reveals-x68000-z-mini-console

 

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[bork]

Did some more GPD Win Max 2 testing.

At 18w TDP:

-Gotham Knights ran at 60 FPS at 720P on low settings.  50-60 when on a bike.
-Elden Ring ran at 45-50 FPS on average at 720P/low.
-KOF XV ran at 1080P 60 FPS with all settings on high.
-Soul Calibur 6 ran at 720P 60 FPS with settings on medium/high- this was the default; need to try 1080P and higher settings.
-DOA6 ran at 1080P 60 FPS with low character shadow resolution and low effect quality.

At 28w TDP:

-Elden Ring ran at 55-60 FPS at 720P/low!
-Cyberpunk 2077 ran at 34-45 FPS on average with some dips at times at 720P/low.  Should be able to get it to run a bit better with some tweaking.
-Persona 5 Royal ran at 60+ FPS at 1080P/high settings.  Framerate was anywhere from 62-100 FPS.  Looks amazing on the screen.

Really impressed with this thing,

Some more GPD Win Max 2 impressions:

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Decided to return it.  Booted it up this morning and had Steam open.  The right side of the screen started going haywire and doing "ghost inputs" (it's a touch screen).  Looked this up and found some other people reporting the same thing.  Discord said it could be drivers, or maybe the charger, or maybe it was a hardware issue.  I rebooted and it seemed OK, then it happened again.  The place I got it from offers a 30 day return policy and I'm still under that, so going to send it back to them.

Picked up an ASUS Zephyrus G14 instead.  It's a lot bigger, but it was also cheaper and the performance is better.  No more GPD for me after this, I swear!

G14 impressions:

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Don't have any problems with this laptop and the price was fantastic, but I decided to get the ASUS Flow Z13 2023 model instead.  It's what I wanted in the first place and the performance is 60% better than last year's model.  Seen some videos and the 4050 runs games really well at 1440P even while keeping thermals low.  ASUS appears to have fixed all the issues the 2022 model had.

ASUS ROG Flow Z13 2023 impressions:

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No 'it's gone' GIF this time! This shit is fire I'm keeping it!

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I was seriously expecting to be sending this right back and getting the G14 back or possibly the Acer Predator Triton 300 SE (both are still on sale for amazing prices), but I was happily wrong- the new Z13 is AWESOME.  Incredibly impressed with the 4050 mobile.  Running everything at 1920x1080 or 1920x1200, I have tried:

-Elden Ring: Ran at high settings at 60 FPS
-Wo Long: Ran at mostly high settings at 90-120 FPS
-Call Of Duty Modern Warfare II: With DLSS enabled for performance, I got 130-140 FPS in multiplayer!
-Cyberpunk: With DLSS enabled for performance, 80-100 FPS
-Control: Also DLSS; got 80-90 FPS
-Resident Evil 4: 80-100 FPS with the settings on performance

And this was without adjusting settings.  Absolutely blown away by this thing.  It doesn't even seem to be running very hot.

More Z13 impressions:

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Yup, gonna return it!    But not because I don't like it- entirely to the contrary.  I like it so much that I decided to upgrade and go for the high-end model.  The difference is that it has 32 GB of ram instead of 16 (the ram is soldered onto all these models) and an RTX 4070 instead of the 4050.  But it is still running at 65w.  Even so, have seen a direct comparison where the FFXV benchmark was getting around 100 FPS average on the 4050 model and 130-140 FPS on the 4070 model.  Plus it has 8GB of vram over the 4050's 6GB.  Should hopefully help to keep it a bit more future proof.

The 4070 model is a weird one, though.  It's a collaboration with the fashion label Acronym.  It's kinda ugly and yet I also kinda like it.  Has these cyberpunk-ish vibes.

The keyboard cover it comes with is also weird and doesn't have RGB lighting (just white), but as long as it's backlit that works for me.  The lighting makes the weird symbols stand out less when enabled.

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You can also stand it up in portrait mode on this model.  That could be fun for SHMUPs or comic reading.
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And it has these straps you can put onto it to wear it and use it while standing or carry it without a case.  I doubt I will use this.
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Can definitely say that had they released a regular model with the same specs, I would have gone for that for sure.  But this is the only way to get it.

Z13 Acronym 4070 impressions after one month:

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I had to RMA it after a minor keyboard lighting issue started happening.  They made me pay to ship it to them and again to get it back.  Took about two weeks.  Then this morning it prompts for a BIOS update and it fucked everything up and now the machine powers on and does nothing.  Trying to force a reboot and accessing the BIOS menu directly failed so they wanted me to RMA it again- fuck that; had three days left to return so sending it back instead.

Was going to wait for restock and just get another one, but for the same price they now have the 2023 G14 with a a 4080 at 125w and with 12GB of vram.  So back to the G14 I go until next month?