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Returning to Liberty City: Himu buys GTAIV Episodes
« on: May 30, 2010, 12:44:37 PM »
Bought GTAIV and GTAIV Episodes for ps3. Installing TLAD to ps3 right now.

I'm kinda excited. These games were the first GTA games since 3 I haven't bought on day one. I feel like a failure of a GTA fanatic.

Hope they're good!
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Re: Returning to Liberty City: Himu buys GTAIV Episodes
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 01:03:04 PM »
so so horrible

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 01:03:39 PM »
GTAIV started good and then just got really bland and boring after a while. I finished, but it's not something that I really want to play again.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 01:06:35 PM »
I liked all the GTA 4 stuff including GTA 4.

Lost and the Damned  was my favorite of all the stuff though. Gay Tony is fun enough but I preferred base GTA 4 and TLAD to it even though it has more of the wacky stuff GTA use to be known for.

I'll be curious to hear your opinion of the two pieces of DLC Himuro.


I wish this was the quality level and value of money for all DLC instead of the nickel and dime shit every other dev does.

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 01:09:26 PM »
GTA4 is hardly horrible. ::) Disappointing to some degrees but still a pretty good game. When I look back on it I think I was being too hard.

btw, when the fuck is R* going to implement a goddamn voice sound setting? The sound effects are always so damn loud in these games that I turn the volume down by instinct, but they link voices with sound effects. So you end up with muted voices if you lower the effects. Goddamit.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 01:17:58 PM »
:piss GTA4 apologists :piss2

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 01:31:56 PM »
Getting used to the controls again  :-\
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 01:33:10 PM »
never been able to get on gta or understand why it got 10/10 everywhere
the only one i finished was san andreas
i remember being so fucking frustated at this helicopter mission where you had to flight in a forest then suddenly TREE OUT OF NOWHERE!
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 01:41:07 PM »
How do you hail a cab? This game has already started with gta4's biggest flaw: the city is too fucking big and yet they decide it's a good idea to send you from one end of the city to the next. Which is fucking boring, making hailing a cab the best way to travel - and who wants to do that in a game called Grand Theft Auto?

But for all I can see, I can't hail cabs yet.

Edit: there we go! Hail A Taxi 4!
« Last Edit: May 30, 2010, 01:44:26 PM by Himuro »
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 01:44:54 PM »
The episodes are much better than the horrible main game. But the engine is garbage period
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 02:11:05 PM »
GTA4 is better than RDR.

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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 02:17:49 PM »
Isn't RDR the same shit? It uses the same engine and everything. The only thing that seems remotely different is setting with improvements and tweaks.
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 02:18:31 PM »
How do you hail a cab? This game has already started with gta4's biggest flaw: the city is too fucking big
more like too fucking empty compared to the other games

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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 02:28:48 PM »
Isn't RDR the same shit? It uses the same engine and everything. The only thing that seems remotely different is setting with improvements and tweaks.

Yeah, it's the same. RDR looks a bit better. But RDR is very boring compared to GTA4.

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 02:30:25 PM »
Really likin' TLAD so far. It has that gangster element I thought was lacking in GTA4.

How do you hail a cab? This game has already started with gta4's biggest flaw: the city is too fucking big
more like too fucking empty compared to the other games

being too empty isn't a problem when the city is too big. I don't think being too empty is a big flaw, but driving 5-10 minutes to get some place in order to start the damn mission is. On top of this, driving isn't as fun as it used to be due to the engine either.
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 02:46:49 PM »
RDR looks much better than GTA IV, what the fuck are you smoking? It also has much better gameplay, none of the GTA IV annoyance's(the fucking cell phone), better characters by a good country mile, a better story(Couzin are you sure you want to kill the man who sooled you out and killed all your comrades even though you pretty much kill anything that moves for no good reason?), the missions are a hell of a lot more fun, dicking around in RDR shits all over what you can do in shitty ass GTA IV, minigames are better(poker > bowling), and well howdy Red Dead pretty much shits all over it.

Himu should have gotten RDR, at least he'd enjoy it.

The environments are so boring in RDR. There's nothing there but sand and stupid small towns. The missions are just the same as in GTA4, or in other sandbox games. Take a job as a mercenary, escort someone, follow someone etc etc SNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
The only difference this time around is that you have to do the missions on a stupid horse.

RDR is probably the most overrated game of this gen so far.

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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 02:47:35 PM »
oh plz

Anyways, I'm really liking TLAD. It's nice to get my gta fanboy on.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 02:48:01 PM »
third thinks read dead redemption is boring because there are no cars
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 02:54:22 PM »
third thinks read dead redemption is boring because there are no cars

- there are no cars (only stupid horses that get tired too fast and can die)
- there are no people
- there are no cool weapons
- you can't swim

RDR has a better aiming system. That's all. And you can hunt in RDR. But that gets boring very fast.

GTA4 is a much more fun sandbox game.

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 02:57:20 PM »
GTA4 has nothing called fun. It's the worst sandbox game this gen.

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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2010, 02:58:51 PM »
i dunno, dynamite and fire bottles are pretty fun if you throw them into the middle of a crowded saloon
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2010, 03:04:25 PM »
can i buy new threads in tlad? guess i'll search algonquin for some clothing stores :)
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2010, 03:05:42 PM »
I could understand the no cars complaint if it was about how in RDR you had easy access to the fastest transport in the game and it didn't change for the 30 hours (how long it took me in single player).  GTA games in the past have you moving from the shit broke-ass area to the city to the suburbs where better cars are on the road and expensive sports cars are readily available.  I don't mind it because you can call your pure white horse to you from anywhere and ride off into the sunset  8)

oh, and weapons in RDR are way better than GTA4.  I like that one head shot from a pistol killed enemies even at the end of the game.  Everything felt so powerful in that game.  I only hated the sniper rifle because it the transition from default view to zoomed in was way too jarring.


about the GTA4 episodes, I still think Lost and Damned is the best gameplay wise.  They make driving fun by changing around how your motorcycle feels, so I never used a taxi while playing it.  The missions are all contained and doesn't get to the point where the control of your character (lack of) becomes annoying.  Gay Tony has the best characters and writing of the three games, and while it does more crazy stuff, a lot of the time it could be a pain.  There is that one helicopter mission that was only difficult because the controls were so bad.  Parachutes kick ass, though.

can i buy new threads in tlad? guess i'll search algonquin for some clothing stores :)

pretty sure you can't

Gay Tony doesn't let you either, but you already have a few outfits at your house to wear in that game.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2010, 03:23:36 PM »

I take it you aren't a western movie fan.

God no, awful redneck movies. But I wanted to give this game a chance because I like sandbox games. I like it in the beginning. But it gets boring really fast. IMO.
I'm going to kill myself if the next GTA is based on the Western.

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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2010, 03:27:03 PM »
gta4 is overrated? aside from the gaming press, i wouldn't say the game is really overly praised or rated highly amongst gamers
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2010, 03:39:56 PM »
Honestly only two things are taking away any enjoyment I"m withing with TLAD:

1. city is too big
2. aiming system is beyond outdated especially after saint's row
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2010, 04:02:38 PM »
awful redneck movies? :lol you're nuts
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2010, 04:04:08 PM »
The aiming and general movement system is definitely a weak point. It was an improvement over prior GTA's but its still behind the current standard of most third person action/adventure games.

I didn't have any problem with the size of the city so I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about there.

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2010, 04:06:39 PM »
I made the mistake of playing Saints Row 2 before completing Episodes from Liberty City. I'll probably never finish them now

third thinks read dead redemption is boring because there are no cars

- there are no cars (only stupid horses that get tired too fast and can die)
- there are no people
- there are no cool weapons
- you can't swim

RDR has a better aiming system. That's all. And you can hunt in RDR. But that gets boring very fast.

GTA4 is a much more fun sandbox game.
Well cars were far and away worst thing about GTA 4, so I'm sold. Thanks!
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2010, 04:12:51 PM »
Thought GTA4 was big dumb and boring. Most of the negatives are related to the storyline and the awful characters. Hated how the story attempted to portrayed Nico as a sympathetic character yet at every turn showed him doing vile and reprehensible acts. He sucked. As did nearly every character around him. I think the only character that I liked was the red headed chick who he wanted to bone... but she got murdered in my game.
Additionally the story missions where almost always dull and forgettable. This complained is coupled with the fact that it all takes place in a boring metropolis. Navigating the city wasn't fun for me.

I've heard that the two episodes both attempt to remedy the boring mission issue. Is this true? I also heard that TLAD doesn't try to make the main character out to be something he's not. Dude's a member of a biker gang and his acts properly reflect his character. Is this true as well?


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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2010, 04:25:52 PM »
Yeah, I agree with most of what you said about gta4 and I'm enjoying TLAD a whole lot right now. Johnny is a great main character so far in that he's hard, but he's still not a scoundrel. He's fine taking out some gang members, but would like a legit reason to do so.

Stoney: it's mostly because you end up driving from one end of the city to the next. Too much dead time. I prefer smaller, more confined spaces where most of the locations that are a ways off, but that much of a ways off.

And I'm starting to think that point may be moot now that I'm getting used to bike controls, which are admittedly pretty solid in TLAD.
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« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2010, 04:40:00 PM »
You probably wouldn't like RDR at first. It's the most open open-world game Rockstar has made. Very quickly you're thrown into the giant world and it doesn't really explain a whole lot. GTA4 at least kept a lot of your movements contained to the small area around the taxi depot. Not the case in RDR.
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« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2010, 05:22:33 PM »
It's not that GTA4 sucks, it's that Saints Row 2 is an obviously superior game.

Where's the praise for that one? :-\

I was just about to make a "why are you guys even arguing over this nonsense?  Go play Saint's Row 2" comment.   :)
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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2010, 05:33:21 PM »
Maybe if Saints Row 2 wasn't a buggy mess and could run higher than 5 FPS it would be more well received.
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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2010, 05:36:08 PM »
I fail to see how a story can ruin the game so much. It's not like MGS4 where there's a 30 minute cutscene every few hours. The story was fine in Broker and Bohan, but got dumb dumb once it reached Algonquin. That said, the story is far from perfect but story is hardly the most of gta4's problems, on the contrary, it's the emphasis on reality and story-related content that hampers itself as a great open world game.
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« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2010, 06:43:30 PM »
I like Gay Tony a lot so far. Well, the aesthetic at least: the humor, the writing, the characters are all very vice city-ish
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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2010, 07:02:43 PM »
Runs fine on my 360? ???

Plus the entire game is co-op and online. Holy fuck SR2 is amazing.

got that right! Me and Chronovore have played that shit for at least 20 hours in co-op. So much fun
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« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2010, 08:30:24 PM »
Third is trolling, but I can't hate on him.  His sister is hot.
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2010, 08:38:01 PM »
People complaining about Saints Row 2's frame rate are trying to troll on the PC version that ran pretty poorly on launch but is fine now. 360 version was always great.
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« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2010, 08:39:19 PM »
My 360 version was pretty buggy, and there was one mission where the game wouldn't run more than literally 2 fps, it was the boat mission.
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« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2010, 08:42:23 PM »
Is this the same 360 that didn't tell you how to play Alan Wake?
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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2010, 08:44:01 PM »
My 360 version was pretty buggy, and there was one mission where the game wouldn't run more than literally 2 fps, it was the boat mission.

2fps? Sounds like GTA not Saints Row
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« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2010, 08:52:34 PM »
guys I have never lied to you before why are you doubting me
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« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2010, 09:50:30 PM »
My 360 version was pretty buggy, and there was one mission where the game wouldn't run more than literally 2 fps, it was the boat mission.

2fps? Sounds like GTA not Saints Row

today when playing tlad i got to a part where me and my gang of biker dudes chase after another gang of biker dudes, and we're like, about to head under an underground tunnel and then it chugs at 5 fps, I end up hitting another vehicle, fly off my bike - and then it starts going at like 1 fps - and end up dying.
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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2010, 10:52:51 PM »
I am loving Gay Tony. I think I will play that instead of TLAD. It has the GTA personality I've missed that has kinda been absent since SA.
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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2010, 01:46:33 AM »
Goddamn I forgot how bad the wanted system in this is. Let's say you get 3 stars, and you're trying your fucking damndest to get out of the cop's hotzone circe, but no cars are spawning, and every time you get close to getting out of the circle some random ass cop shows up to put the attention back on you. It's awful because it makes GTA chases - which have notoriously been about knowing side routes and short cuts and out witting cops by knowing all of the loopholes - into a random chase through the city. These chases hold no strategic value and they're about impossible to plan out.

Please change this the next GTA, Rockstar.
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« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2010, 02:02:42 AM »
The best thing to do is once you get out of cops radar zone is to stop completely, if you keep moving then another will spawn.
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« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2010, 01:14:44 PM »
Took out a construction crane in the middle of the city, blew up a subway train, and a plane in this mission in Gay Tony. How juvenile and stupid. I want to feel like a gangster, not a terrorist.  :-\ I will concentrate on TLAD after that mission which has stained my opinion of Gay Tony for now.
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« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2010, 01:51:57 PM »
Took out a construction crane in the middle of the city, blew up a subway train, and a plane in this mission in Gay Tony. How juvenile and stupid. I want to feel like a gangster, not a terrorist.  :-\ I will concentrate on TLAD after that mission which has stained my opinion of Gay Tony for now.

But you're not a gangster in gay tony.  The one decent thing they do with the story in the GTA4 games is establish your position in Liberty City.  In Gay Tony, Luis is already this successful dude who is partners with Tony and all that.  Most of the missions and people you deal with the higher ups only really mentioned in GTA4.  Like, as Niko you deal with people like Playboy X while as Luis you work for Yusuf; if you remember, Playboy X mentioned how he wanted to work with Yusuf.  The only characters that don't have a high status are Luis' two old friends.  Just think about where you start out in each game.

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« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2010, 03:48:28 PM »
smh
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« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2010, 03:56:32 PM »
Took out a construction crane in the middle of the city, blew up a subway train, and a plane in this mission in Gay Tony. How juvenile and stupid. I want to feel like a gangster, not a terrorist.  :-\ I will concentrate on TLAD after that mission which has stained my opinion of Gay Tony for now.

smh.

Are you for real?

Have you conveniently forgotten all the heinous shit you do in San Andreas or earlier GTA games.

This is why I have a hard time taking you seriously at times...

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« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2010, 04:06:32 PM »
You don't blow up subways with people on them in the gta trilogy. Unless that train is full of drug dealers or a bunch of gangsters.
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« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2010, 04:18:34 PM »
I don't remember that. I think the biggest case of terrorism in the gta trilogy is probably the part in Vice City where the construction guy has you take out the construction site with the helicopter. But in that case, it's completely comedic and funny. In this case, I don't know why I'm doing it.

I guess it's a mixed case of nostalgia and the fact I'm no longer a teenager. So the more grim missions like that get to me when they probably wouldn't if I were still a teenager.
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« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2010, 04:19:27 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2010, 04:24:39 PM »
what
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« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2010, 04:51:01 PM »
People complaining about Saints Row 2's frame rate are trying to troll on the PC version that ran pretty poorly on launch but is fine now. 360 version was always great.
How is SR2 compared to SR1?  The first one lagged a lot even when you turned off v-sync.

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« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2010, 04:55:11 PM »
evey gta has missions where you kill innocent people for no good reason.  remember that vc mission where you ran a guy's wife off the road while she begged for you to stop?  they're all fucked up; sorry you don't remember.
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« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2010, 05:02:18 PM »
How bout the mission where you kill a bunch of innocent army workers around area 53 to steal a jetpack?
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« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2010, 05:06:44 PM »
evey gta has missions where you kill innocent people for no good reason.  remember that vc mission where you ran a guy's wife off the road while she begged for you to stop?  they're all fucked up; sorry you don't remember.

You're right!



I completely forgot about that mission.

I think this is one of the many reasons partly why gta3 is still my favorite. In that game, you're usually killing someone who deserves it or a gangster or some idiot that fucked with the wrong guy.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2010, 05:12:51 PM by Himuro »
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« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2010, 05:13:01 PM »

That reminds me:

In the next GTA bring back silent main character for the love that is all holy. I can't stand Luis and his bitching. His story makes no sense! So he's a bodyguard for one of the biggest club owners in the city, he's got a great condo and yet he's still involved with petty crime and drugs. Why?! Either make the main character a low life scoundrel who fucks with everyone and shows no sympathy like Tommy Vercetti, allow people to customize their character like in Saints Row, or have a silent character again.

These sympathetic yet not so sympathetic characters gotta go.

Methodis: I have sounded off on SA a lot, and that mission is on the top of my wtf list.
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