Nintendo 3DS revealed

[bork]

If you're so adamant about playing your imported weaboo games then why don't you man up and buy a Japanese system instead of resorting to piracy?

I bought a Japanese DSi.  I don't care about uguu RPG garbage though.  I was in Japan at the time so that's what I went for.  But I will typically just go for the system that comes out first.  If it hits the States first, USA 3DS it is.  If it's Japan first, I will import.

Wish I hadn't bought a DSi at all though, especially a Japanese one since they did lock the DSi store stuff.  Although the one DSi download game I'd actually bother with, Shantae, appears to be vaporware anyway.

DS is easily the least-played Nintendo system that I've ever owned.  I never touch it.

[magus]

as i already said in this thread,regional lock might not be a problem for you guys but if you are european you are buttfucked
there is a reason piracy is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge here

the only thing worse than being european is being australian
did you know mario galaxy 2 has still to release in australia?
they delayed it to july

[demi]

Magos doesnt own any legit games, btw

[magus]

ehy that's not true!
i bought yoshi touch & go out of a play-asia special offer before getting a flashcard
didn't spend more than 10 euro
if the DS was regional locked i would have been buttfucked

slime - yes it's true,i can be patient but why should i be when there is a quicker alternative to it?

[Smooth Groove]

Slime buying games to make up for EB's sins



I'm still 100% sold on the 3DS but I really wish that what's shown at E3 isn't a final design.  The current design just has zero panache.  Apple products and even the PSP completely trump it in sleekness and elegance. 

[Raban]

Remember the first NDS? No, I mean the first one.

It's come a long way, and I'm positive this will too.

[Bebpo]

If you're so adamant about playing your imported weaboo games then why don't you man up and buy a Japanese system instead of resorting to piracy?

I meant for BUYING import games and then playing them on flashcart.

[brawndolicious]

Yeah, he owes it to the developers.  Somebody had to be paid to region-lock it you know.

[Smooth Groove]

With all the gaming crap that Bebpo bought over the years, he's earned the right to pirate every now and then, imo.

[demi]

fucking pirates.

[Smooth Groove]

fucking pirates.

You just borrow, right?

[Bebpo]

demi uses gamefly for all his x360/psp/ds/wii gaming

[Smooth Groove]

But he downloads PSP and DS stuff as well.  Probably PC too, out of spite. 

[Bebpo]

slime

[Smooth Groove]

I'd have liked to hack in larger media file support for external drives with the 360 & PS3.  It'd have saved me $130 that I used to buy a media player.  

[Bebpo]

meh, slime wins the argument

[cool breeze]

is there an actual reason to make games in different regions for the device? I could see for TVs because PAL is like 50hz or euro shit like that, but it shouldn't matter with handhelds.

that was probably a dumb question

[Smooth Groove]

I don't have a DS flash cart but I occasionally get PSP games from the internet store, which I never play for more than 10 mins.  Is that bad?

[Smooth Groove]

Fine, I'll sell my PSPs then.  Just felt bad having one around and never using it for more than reading EB in the toilet. 

[Diunx]

Use it to play Peace Walker in the toilet

[demi]

what's wrong with giving hacking sites advertising money?  That just encourages them to keep hacking and make the systems more open.

twilight hack twizzers team HATES piracy. believe it or not majority of hackers do it for knowledge. it is the pirates who ruin it.

Dark Alex even stopped

[Damian79]

Region locking is stupid.  Even i would pirate out of spite.

[demi]

Stop living in a loser country

[Damian79]

bububu...  I got nothing.

[Himu]

Remember the first NDS? No, I mean the first one.
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It's come a long way, and I'm positive this will too.

[SantaC]

Slime buying games to make up for EB's sins

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I'm still 100% sold on the 3DS but I really wish that what's shown at E3 isn't a final design.  The current design just has zero panache.  Apple products and even the PSP completely trump it in sleekness and elegance. 

it is not a final design

[originalz]

Eh, if the 3DS is region locked, I'll buy an American system at launch and wait for revision 2 to buy a Japanese system.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, I think I'll just do that.  Sounds like a good plan.

[cool breeze]

I think the design is quite nice for the most part.  Just get rid of the shiny background and replace it with the same matte as the DSi and move around the four buttons on the bottom.  It's weird that the power button is where start/select are on the DSi.
 

[maxy]

Update: According to analyst Michael Pachter, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime told him that it costs “a lot more” to make a 3DS than a DSi and that Nintendo doesn’t intend to lose money on the hardware.

There were two pieces of information Nintendo failed to mention about the 3DS at E3: A date and price. It’ll probably be a few months before we hear about either of those two details, but Nintendo president Satoru Iwata provided a hint regarding how much the handheld will cost. Because of the system’s graphical enhancements over the DS, new camera, features, and improvement in overall technology, it seems logical to assume that the 3DS will be priced more heavily than past Nintendo portables. According to Iwata, it’ll cost more than the current DS, which probably means it’ll set consumers back at least $200.

“I have to refrain from talking specifically about the price point. What I can confirm is that, in terms of the production costs, it will cost more than the costs for the Nintendo DS today. Having said that, we believe we will produce enough value worthy of the production cost. We do not think we have to sell the products below cost.”

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/43089/

[Raban]

If you think about it, if the 3DS is $200, how stupid is it that both home console and handheld cost the same? I thought it was ridiculous when the PSPgo was just $50 shy of the PS3, but the 3DS seems like it'll cost as much as the Wii. How ridiculous.

[TakingBackSunday]

It's not ridiculous for the handheld, it IS for the Wii, though.

[Raban]

It's not ridiculous for the handheld, it IS for the Wii, though.

You really think it's okay to pay $200 for a portable video game system?

EDIT: Oh I see what you did there

[Smooth Groove]

Slime is such a disgusting corporate whore. 

[naff]

meh, slime wins the argument

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to win any argument and I apologize for my doggedness. What you do is your business and no one should think any less or more of you. The only thing I was trying to do is for you to see just how gray the choice of downloading roms are even if you are buying the original carts. At the end of the day it's just silly ass video games that don't mean much and I personally don't gain anything from your actions so fuck what I think.

Hell, I should be praising you for actually importing the carts even if you are going through more convenient methods of bypassing the region lock. Hardly no one does that and that alone is commendable.

I agree, that is highly commendable. I personally don't understand this gray area you speak of Slime. If you own the cart but can't play it how is it questionable to download it in order to play (rhetorical, I read your explanation)? Fuck buying another console from another region. I guess I'm a sack of shit and would have no qualms ripping something unavailable in my country. If they don't want to distribute it in my country fine, but don't expect me to pay for it to alleviate my conscience

[Raban]

I'm sorry, but when I pirate games that aren't available in my region, the developer chose not to port it over thus rejecting the potential profit market where they didn't release it. They obviously didn't want my money in the first place, why should I give it to them out of good conscience?

I rarely pirate games, btw, but that's just the way I see it. The game developer accepted the loss before I even downloaded the game.

[naff]

Yeah, I think I'll just do that.  Sounds like a good plan.

Man, that just sounds ridiculous to me. I can't understand wanting to support region locking. Lamest shit ever.

[Eel O'Brian]

$250, calling it now

*bookmarked for self-smh if wrong*

[Raban]

$250, calling it now

*bookmarked for self-smh if wrong*

The 3DS costing $250 would be more smh-worthy than your prediction being wrong, lol

[Beezy]

$250, calling it now

*bookmarked for self-smh if wrong*

Is that cheaper than what it takes to get 3D on your TV or PC with shitty glasses?

[Eel O'Brian]

yes for all, i think

[Himu]

It's not ridiculous for the handheld, it IS for the Wii, though.

I bet you wii will cost 150 by the time zelda comes out.

[Vizzys]

this is nintendo, it will be overpriced and still sell bazillions

[TakingBackSunday]

I'd wager $199 to be honest.  Maaaaybe $229, but I guess I wouldn't really be surprised if it was 250.

[Raban]

If it's $199, I may bite on launch, if it's $150 I'm there Day 1. Anything more than that I'm waiting for the price drop/revision.

[Purple Filth]

If it's $199, I may bite on launch, if it's $150 I'm there Day 1. Anything more than that I'm waiting for the price drop/revision.

I can see 200 but not 150.

It may come in at DSi launch price of 170.


If it does come at 150 i would definitely check it out

[cool breeze]

I'm more interested in the price of the software.  DS software still goes as high as $40 for Nintendo games, even though generally games are $30.  Some PSP games sold for $50 when it launched and now it is down to $40 for new releases.  I wonder if they're going to drop the price of DS games or charge more for the 3DS games, at least initially.

The only thing I have to say about the hardware is that the DS XL was $190 when it released and with maybe one exception, every new Nintendo hardware releases included some software or way to get software for free in the box.  Maybe something like a preinstalled Animal Crossing on the 3DS making it seem like a better value at a higher price.

[TripleA]

I hope it's not too expensive

[maxy]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/20/heres-every-3ds-screenshot-released-so-far/

[Third]

So many games* already.

*ports/remakes

[Third]

Maybe.

I'll be getting one on day 1. The nfag in me is still too strong when it comes to new Nintendo hardware.  :'(

[Shino]

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/20/heres-every-3ds-screenshot-released-so-far/

ridge racer looks awful, namco isn't even trying

Honestly... not many were trying very hard.
The 3D didn't look good on many of the games that were on display.
Of the ones I saw... Pilotwings looked good, Dead or Alive had a nice look to the video they showed, and the movie trailer for How to Train Your Dragon looked really good.
Other than that... Metal Gear and Resident Evil looked pretty bad.  Even Kid Icarus didn't look very good.

Professor Layton looked pretty cool too though.

This is just the 3D effects on it though.  Overall the visuals are much improved and I will still get one, even if I do play most ofthe games in 2D

[Smooth Groove]

Fingers, not webbed hands, on a Nintendo portable.  Is that a first?

[cool breeze]

[youtube=560,345]DqIpy8Wq06U[/youtube]

video of the Resident Evil tech demo shown at E3

also confirmed to be using MT Framework

[maxy]

If that is real-time then

It looks like 3DS has a decent amount of memory too...

[Sho Nuff]

If that is real-time then

It looks like 3DS has a decent amount of memory too...

I saw this running live on the hardware and I'm pretty sure it was realtime. The movie stuff was washed out and had some compression issues. This looked just lovely though.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I'm getting at launch. First gen hardware is always the easiest to hack.

[brawndolicious]

I don't know if it plays like the recent resident evils, as opposed to like Dead Space Extraction, but it actually looks better than RE4 I think.

[TakingBackSunday]

...but it's been confirmed to be real-time 

It doesn't mean that's IN-GAME, though.  The actual gameplay will looks significantly less impressive than that, but for cinema scenes, it'll look like that.

[cool breeze]

Realtime doesn't mean that is how the game will look when you play it.  There are very few things on screen, and despite the impressive lighting, look at things like Chris' thumb or Jill's fingers or the textures on Chris' outfit.  It's still impressive, but it isn't like it is RE5 quality.  The lighting is really the most impressive part about it, otherwise it seems worse than RE4.