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« Reply #360 on: June 22, 2010, 11:25:35 AM »
fine, so just to be clear, you don't believe it is running on 3DS hardware? is that it?

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« Reply #361 on: June 22, 2010, 11:28:25 AM »
You're not making any sense dude.
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cool breeze

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« Reply #362 on: June 22, 2010, 11:37:29 AM »
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Clearly one of us is confused here.  You say it's not real time, but capcom says it is real time, everyone who played it at the show says it was real time.  we are saying it isn't how the game will look when it is a game and not a tech demo.  I don't get what is going on anymore.

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« Reply #363 on: June 22, 2010, 11:38:36 AM »
I played that shit, and it was running in realtime.  :miyamoto

It was still two characters on a simple background, it's not like the final game will look like that

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« Reply #364 on: June 22, 2010, 07:10:52 PM »
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« Reply #365 on: June 22, 2010, 08:11:01 PM »
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« Reply #366 on: June 22, 2010, 09:21:04 PM »
Guys, the first metal gear solid 4 video was real time too, just saying.
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« Reply #367 on: June 23, 2010, 06:33:16 PM »
Nice impressions.

also, the PSP2 is real?
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« Reply #368 on: June 26, 2010, 06:48:16 AM »
Warren Spector gushes over the 3ds:

http://junctionpoint.wordpress.com/

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Nintendo got 3D right – righter than anyone else. Ever. By far. Think about the 3DS – just the basics:

» No glasses required!
» No image degradation or color saturation loss compared with 2D displays!
» Parallax control so viewers can adjust the images so the 3D effect is perfect for them, not for some average person with an average distance of 2.5 inches between his/her eyes.
But that’s just based on the basics, as I said. Wait, there’s more. I was backstage at the Nintendo Press Conference on Tuesday, June 15th, and as each new 3DS feature was described, my jaw got closer and closer to the ground. It’s a game machine… it’s 3D… it has a gyroscope and accelerometer built in… It has Wi-Fi connectivity and shares data with other 3DS’s in the background… It has a 3D CAMERA!… and it PLAYS 3D MOVIES WITHOUT GLASSES!… I swear if they’d said it was a phone, too, I would have dashed back onto the stage and snatched the prototype and run like the wind! I half expected to hear it would tuck me in at night!

When I got my hands on the 3DS at the show, I was blown away again. The feature set sounds good but the proof is in the pudding – in the product. And Nintendo’s got some mighty tasty stuff coming. Pilot Wings – incredible. Nintendo Dogs – even cuter than before and more engaging. Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid – gorgeous. Kid Icarus is coming back plus there’s a Mario Kart, plus a new Zelda(!!!!!)! Not a bad set of games to brag about as you’re launching a new piece of hardware. And there was a tech demo, shooting game that was probably my favorite thing of all. The movie trailers were outrageous – best 3D visuals I’ve seen. Tangled looked great and How to Train Your Dragon was a revelation. Both were sharp, clear, convincing. Every title – movie or game – was a hardware-selling brand, each one looked cool and each was genuinely enhanced in some way by the 3D effect.

The 3D effect is basically perfect. I mean PERFECT. And the games and movie trailers shown on 3DS were stunning, enhanced and flat-out cooler than they could possibly have been in 2D. I was on the fence about 3D when I entered the Nintendo booth. By the time I left, I was floored.

I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good – and that’s a good thing. Nintendo deserves to sell a gazillion of these things. And I want the first one off the line!

As a consumer, I’m in. Sign me up. Price no object (or not much of one). As a game developer, well, sign me up for that, too. How do you design a game that really exploits stereoscopic 3D? Beats me… How do we take advantage of a 3D camera built into a gaming device? No idea… How do we integrate gyroscopes and accelerometers into control schemes? Got some ideas but nothing solid… I mean, how could anyone NOT want to play with this tech?

I’ve been hoping something like this would come along since Origin and Looking Glass supported VR headsets in Wings of Glory and System Shock back in the mid-’90s, but I never actually believed it would happen. Well, it’s happened. The Nintendo 3DS changed everything for me.

Please, please, let it be the success it deserves to be. And all you TV manufacturers out there (or Sharp at least), get with the program and let me buy a TV that’s as cool as Nintendo’s little game machine. I know there are issues with view angles on parallax barrier technology, but come on, get cracking, solve the problems and let me give you a bunch of money so I can have my 3D, okay?

I should stop. I know it. But the 3DS is – seriously – the coolest hardware I’ve ever seen at E3… It’s nothing short of magical, both in the effect the stereoscopic stuff had on me and in the way the tech works. Not that I really understand how it works – not yet anyway! The 3DS was – dare I say it? – almost Disney-like in the magical feeling it evoked in me and I suspect you’ll have a similar reaction when you get your hands on it. And note that I said “when,” not “if.” That was no accident. Trust me – you’re gonna want and you’re gonna get a Nintendo 3DS.

Okay. Let me catch my breath. Two more things tomorrow and then I’m outta here and onto other things. (I’m really going to try to keep this blogging thing going from now on!

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #369 on: June 26, 2010, 08:09:09 AM »
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money.  And a year after 3DS comes out, it will be interesting to see how many people play their games with the 3D slider turned all the way off.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #370 on: June 26, 2010, 10:58:25 AM »
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cool breeze

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« Reply #371 on: June 26, 2010, 11:54:50 AM »
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money.  And a year after 3DS comes out, it will be interesting to see how many people play their games with the 3D slider turned all the way off.

I'm mostly just hoping that 3D catches and they continue to advance the tech, then maybe in a few years when there is a quality TV that lets me watch without glasses, it will finally be worth picking one up.  Maybe then movie theaters can try another gimmick to draw crowds, and the cycle to bring that to the home market can continue again.  Here's hoping I have at least one hologram set in 2018.

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« Reply #372 on: June 26, 2010, 12:02:48 PM »
SMH at you myopic old-minded farts.  I'm gonna be turning the 3D slider way up for my POV pr0n. 

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« Reply #373 on: June 26, 2010, 01:23:28 PM »
SMH at you myopic old-minded farts.  I'm gonna be turning the 3D slider way up for my POV pr0n. 
Iwata confirmed 3D video chat for 3ds.  Oh the ideas horny teens will have with that.

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« Reply #374 on: June 26, 2010, 03:06:20 PM »
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money.  And a year after 3DS comes out, it will be interesting to see how many people play their games with the 3D slider turned all the way off.

I think 3D on 3DS and it's replacement platforms is here to stay. The main obstacle to 3D is the incredible variables in peoples viewing experiences of a screen at any given time - almost none are perfectly aligned in the center to view proper 3D in their $2000 recliner/massager placed for perfect 7.1 sound.

With the 3DS, having a screen at approximately 1/2 arms length in front of you that will always be approximately 1/2 arms length in front of you (with even a toggle switch to tweak it if it isn't working for you).

Actually I do agree with you, I'm not seeing or hearing any gameplay implications from 3d - I don't see that as a reason to turn it off other than eye strain or curmudgeoness.
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« Reply #375 on: July 01, 2010, 06:56:47 AM »
Sony started crying already

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Sony wasn't thrilled about Nintendo's E3 2010 press conference where it continually reiterated its "no more glasses" messaging for the 3DS.

During an interview with IGN, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida responded by saying Nintendo's vision for 3D gaming is similar to theirs and that it shouldn't focus on whether or not glasses are worn.

"I have hope that they have a broader perspective with 3D," Yoshida said. "When you listen to what they are saying about the effect of 3D perspective to the games, they are saying the same message we are, but they don't have to bash some small part of what the other company is doing."

Yoshida later said the industry should advocate 3D development, and that Sony would like to work alongside Nintendo in promoting the new technology.

"I think as an industry we should preach this new perspective, from a very large cinema screen to a small portable, because that helps advancing the games and the game industry," he said. "We'd like to work together to promote 3D."

At the time, Yoshida admitted he hadn't actually played the 3DS yet, but said the glasses technology is improving all the time and that of course they'll be required for movie-like experiences.

"If you really want a big theater experience, of course you have to wear glasses," he said. "With the latest technology, the glasses are light and you kind of forget you're wearing them after awhile."

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1103136p1.html
 :rofl
Yeah like Nintendo gives a shit about you and your glasses crap
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I wonder what they will say when Nintendo starts real 3DS marketing..."look 3D,no glasses required"
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« Reply #376 on: July 01, 2010, 09:17:10 AM »
microsoft should pimp slap both and just declare that 3D is a silly gimmick
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« Reply #377 on: July 01, 2010, 10:57:32 AM »
I fully welcome 3D. Maybe it'll reinvigorate the whole First Person RPG genre, which'll make me cream my jeans.
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« Reply #378 on: July 01, 2010, 11:33:49 AM »
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

He saw this and left



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« Reply #379 on: July 01, 2010, 12:39:28 PM »
What I found out yesterday is that a single pair of 3D glasses for the Bravia TVs cost as much as Natal.  That is ridiculous.

maxy

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« Reply #380 on: July 01, 2010, 01:10:24 PM »
It would be funny if Sony actually planned 3D PSP2,but with glasses...they could always say,3D glasses work on everything,3DTV or 3D PSP2,you can play 3D PSP2 games on 3DTVs also,...3D 3D 3D

And then Nintendo comes with 3DS,no glasses required...and Sony is like,waaaat?...we can't release this,we will be ridiculed left and right
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« Reply #381 on: July 01, 2010, 01:15:06 PM »
Plus, and this is a huge plus, current consoles aren't even powerful enough to deliver 3D without making concessions in the graphics.  Look at the gimped Killzone 3 for example.  :yuck  

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« Reply #382 on: July 01, 2010, 02:06:50 PM »
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Consoles aren't even powerful enough for HD.  :smug
 


maxy

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« Reply #383 on: July 01, 2010, 02:20:36 PM »
That will always be a problem...no matter how "powerful" the system is

Unless those extra transistors are rendered useless for "normal" stuff...but then why not use them for normal stuff...but then you will have huge hit when you go 3D...but...going in circles




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« Reply #384 on: July 01, 2010, 02:34:40 PM »
It wouldn't be the first time that developers lied. 

cool breeze

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« Reply #385 on: July 01, 2010, 02:36:08 PM »
well, Crysis 2 3D sounds kinda crazy in the sense that they're supporting all sorts of ways to use it including the types of glasses you'd get with Coraline 3D or w/e.

It wouldn't be the first time that developers lied. 

people were making a fuss about how they were claiming to show the 360 demo when it was running on a PC, but I don't know what that was all about.  I don't remember them claiming it was on the 360, people just assumed it was because of the button prompts.

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« Reply #386 on: July 01, 2010, 02:44:55 PM »
Crysis 2 renders only one frame with some trickery...people say that it looks good...that just shows that 3D tech is still learning how to walk properly

Game development is all about cheap tricks anyway...so if it looks good...who cares
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« Reply #387 on: July 01, 2010, 04:11:41 PM »
Where's dark1x?  I miss his biased takes. 

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« Reply #388 on: July 02, 2010, 09:23:20 PM »
Plus, and this is a huge plus, current consoles aren't even powerful enough to deliver 3D without making concessions in the graphics.  Look at the gimped Killzone 3 for example.  :yuck  


Sub-SD gaming :'(
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brawndolicious

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« Reply #389 on: July 02, 2010, 10:28:41 PM »
I can't think of one example where having 3D actually mattered to me.

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« Reply #390 on: July 02, 2010, 10:32:59 PM »
all i can think of is phoenix wright 3ds.

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« Reply #391 on: July 02, 2010, 10:43:14 PM »
Sony started crying already

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Sony wasn't thrilled about Nintendo's E3 2010 press conference where it continually reiterated its "no more glasses" messaging for the 3DS.

During an interview with IGN, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida responded by saying Nintendo's vision for 3D gaming is similar to theirs and that it shouldn't focus on whether or not glasses are worn.

"I have hope that they have a broader perspective with 3D," Yoshida said. "When you listen to what they are saying about the effect of 3D perspective to the games, they are saying the same message we are, but they don't have to bash some small part of what the other company is doing."

Yoshida later said the industry should advocate 3D development, and that Sony would like to work alongside Nintendo in promoting the new technology.

"I think as an industry we should preach this new perspective, from a very large cinema screen to a small portable, because that helps advancing the games and the game industry," he said. "We'd like to work together to promote 3D."

At the time, Yoshida admitted he hadn't actually played the 3DS yet, but said the glasses technology is improving all the time and that of course they'll be required for movie-like experiences.

"If you really want a big theater experience, of course you have to wear glasses," he said. "With the latest technology, the glasses are light and you kind of forget you're wearing them after awhile."

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1103136p1.html
 :rofl
Yeah like Nintendo gives a shit about you and your glasses crap
 :rofl

I wonder what they will say when Nintendo starts real 3DS marketing..."look 3D,no glasses required"
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cool breeze

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #392 on: July 03, 2010, 01:25:52 AM »
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Developers working on the system say that if they were developing a 3DS game that didn't use 3D, they could theoretically use the extra processing power for additional texture passes and more complex object and environment geometry, or even up a framerate from 30 frames per second to 60. But there's no benefit to raise a frame rate from 60 to 120 since the LCD displays of the 3DS (as well as the DSi, DS Lite, DS classic, Game Boy Advance…even the PSP) are limited to 60Hz.

Of course, there's also the issue of selling a 3DS game without a 3D effect: publishers would have to deal with the outcry of gamers wondering why their recently purchased game fails to have any depth even when the 3D slider's on at full blast.

It's good to know that is an option.  Hopefully if 3DSware exist and Nintendo has a decent online service this time, games put there don't need to worry about that second part.

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« Reply #393 on: July 03, 2010, 01:48:02 AM »
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.

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« Reply #394 on: July 03, 2010, 01:58:50 AM »
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.

Who cares, looks awesome
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« Reply #395 on: July 03, 2010, 02:25:42 AM »
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.

Who cares, looks awesome

The machine seems awesome (3d without glasses, can turn it off if you want) and i would check it out.

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« Reply #396 on: July 03, 2010, 05:02:55 AM »
The whole "3ds will be your god" bullshit the nfans are preaching is getting really annoying.

I love nintendo's attempt to address almost all the issues some had with the last handheld.
Not surprising.
Ntards are the worst fanboys in existence.

Just like with anything new,3DS will be a lots of smoke and mirrors...until it gets released and people forget about "new shiny device" hype

My prediction...
Some games will do 3D right,majority won't,it will be just something to write on the box...business as usual
Will people actually play with 3D on or off?...that is the question

By play i mean really play in 3D,not something that will be turned off within 10 minutes.

Fine by me,since i just care about games.



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« Reply #397 on: July 03, 2010, 12:12:59 PM »
I probably just misinterpreted it.  I'm no expect, so calm down.  This part:
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they could theoretically use the extra processing power for additional texture passes and more complex object and environment geometry, or even up a framerate from 30 frames per second to 60.
makes it seem like you can sacrifice 3D for more power.  But I don't know exactly what their solution is and am basing it on my limited idea of how 3D works on PC with Nvidia's solution.

cool breeze

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« Reply #398 on: July 03, 2010, 12:25:30 PM »
That's why I mentioned 3DSware (-ware is the XBLA/PSN/appstore for Nintendo).  I wouldn't expect a retail game to require it, but a downloadable game, maybe.  But I guess it would also be silly to think that a downloadable game would require even more power than retail games.

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« Reply #399 on: July 03, 2010, 12:27:58 PM »
After the shitfest that is WiiWare and DSiWare are any of you even REMOTELY interested in what GARBAGE Nintendo is gonna stock their shelves with? Let alone the fact you probably wont be able to transfer anything you bought on Wii or DSi? Or 3DS?
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« Reply #400 on: July 03, 2010, 12:31:38 PM »
After the shitfest that is WiiWare and DSiWare are any of you even REMOTELY interested in what GARBAGE Nintendo is gonna stock their shelves with? Let alone the fact you probably wont be able to transfer anything you bought on Wii or DSi? Or 3DS?

really, I have limited experience with Wiiware and DSiware.  The only things I have on DSiware are games I bought with the 1000 points it came with (that Wairoware tech demo and pictobits, which is fun).  The reason I don't buy anything on them is because I can't transfer them and Nintendo still doesn't have a proper way to buy games on either.  I'm hopeful that the 3DS lets you have an account and all that.  I mean, it has been half a decade since the 360, so it seems like Nintendo might finally realize this online thing is worthwhile.

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« Reply #401 on: July 03, 2010, 06:57:44 PM »
And here comes the stupid:
http://kotaku.com/5578822/3ds-games-will-look-better-if-they-ditch-the-3d
Isn't that what everybody's been saying?  That they could make a better looking game or run it at a higher framerate if they did it in 2D?

I guess it would make sense to allow developers to choose if they want to use 3D, it wouldn't benefit all most games and it would make it seem like the graphics are aging more slowly.

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« Reply #402 on: July 03, 2010, 08:03:10 PM »
And here comes the stupid:
http://kotaku.com/5578822/3ds-games-will-look-better-if-they-ditch-the-3d
Isn't that what everybody's been saying?  That they could make a better looking game or run it at a higher framerate if they did it in 2D?

I guess it would make sense to allow developers to choose if they want to use 3D, it wouldn't benefit all most games and it would make it seem like the graphics are aging more slowly.
Yeah, i think resident evil on the 3DS is suppose to push more effects and look better if you turn 3D off completely.



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« Reply #403 on: July 03, 2010, 11:25:56 PM »
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money. 

I seriously doubt that, given how fast Hollywood is moving on 3D. There will always be the shitty rush jobs that don't utilize 3D correctly - and granted, even those will be popular with many folks - but as time goes by more films will be utilizing it correctly. Most recently Avatar and How To Train Your Dragon come to mind, but that's just the beginning.

I'm certainly no fan of 3D, but the market looks pretty damn strong. It came at the exact right moment too, with HDTVs on the verge of hitting their saturation point.
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« Reply #404 on: July 04, 2010, 10:33:53 PM »
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.


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« Reply #405 on: July 04, 2010, 11:07:11 PM »
that really isn't a funny thing about his comment
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« Reply #406 on: July 04, 2010, 11:26:34 PM »
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I was completely wrong about 3D. Not a fad. Not going away. Here for good –

Maybe for the 3DS, but I still think in 3 or 4 years people who buy the first 3D televisions/glasses are going to be pissed about having wasted all that money. 

I seriously doubt that, given how fast Hollywood is moving on 3D. There will always be the shitty rush jobs that don't utilize 3D correctly - and granted, even those will be popular with many folks - but as time goes by more films will be utilizing it correctly. Most recently Avatar and How To Train Your Dragon come to mind, but that's just the beginning.

I'm certainly no fan of 3D, but the market looks pretty damn strong. It came at the exact right moment too, with HDTVs on the verge of hitting their saturation point.

it's a novelty which will quickly wear off as people get tired of paying the 3D surcharge at theaters

as for television, i don't think all the people who bought hdtvs in the past 3 or so years are in any hurry to run out and buy new and more expensive ones

it's a fad, might last a little longer this time than it has the past dozen times it's been tried
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #407 on: July 05, 2010, 02:40:34 AM »
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.



Link?  Either you're making stuff up or that guy is talking out of his ass because the PS3 can't even do PS2 games in 1080p at 60fps.   

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« Reply #408 on: July 05, 2010, 03:47:01 AM »
Super Stardust HD is 1080p "120 fps" game...60fps in 3D version

Kilzone 3 runs at half-resolution,according to Eurogamer DF...

That would be 360p  :lol
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« Reply #409 on: July 05, 2010, 05:36:22 PM »
Yeah um, the tech is SO not there for 3D yet. We can barely drive a 720p frame at 30fps and now we need to render that twice. Blooooorgh please just die already and come back when I have grandchildren and am too ornery to play games

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #410 on: July 05, 2010, 08:28:31 PM »
that really isn't a funny thing about his comment

It is, considering Kutaragi is now having the last laugh.


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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #411 on: July 05, 2010, 08:38:45 PM »
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.



Link?  Either you're making stuff up or that guy is talking out of his ass because the PS3 can't even do PS2 games in 1080p at 60fps.   

Listen to one of the Giantbomb E3 podcasts. I think it was their second one.

He said for devs to get the 3D working they literally have to render things twice, so in the case of the new Mortal Kombat game (which is a 60fps 720p game), the devs had to modify the hell out of the Unreal Engine to get it to run at 1080p 120fps.


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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #412 on: July 05, 2010, 08:40:29 PM »
It's kinda shameful for Sony gloating about 3D when in fact Kutaragi was so far ahead that he was pimping 4D four years ago.

What a downgrade.

Fuck you Sony, bring Ken back!

You know the funny thing with your comment is, according to John Vignocchi of Disney Interactive, the 3D effect on Ps3 is achieved by rendering games @120fps, 1080p resolution.

The funny thing is you can't even take a PS3 joke.

The funny thing is you can't even see the irony  :teehee

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #413 on: July 05, 2010, 08:49:10 PM »
Here's the link http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7713068 , 51 minute mark:

"You literally have to render 2 frames, it's 120fps."

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #414 on: July 05, 2010, 09:38:12 PM »
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #415 on: July 13, 2010, 01:56:13 AM »
Nice interview with JC Connors,studio head of Griptonite Games, Foundation 9 Entertainment's go-to studio for handheld projects.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/5891/going_inside_the_3ds.php


Another interview

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/07/hideki-konno/

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First of all, 3-D is not the only feature that we are pushing toward with this hardware. We think that there will be software that will emphasize motion control using the gyro. During our experiments, we have found that in a first-person shooter, we can use the sensor to move the aiming and the pointer. In that case, your line of sight is still quite rigid, your eyes are pointing at the screen, and so the 3-D effect won’t be diluted. So there is the possibility that both 3-D and motion control could be used in the same software.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #416 on: July 13, 2010, 04:57:24 AM »
you know it really ticks me off how everybody is like "3D WITH NO GLASSES" but nobody is like "that's it if you stay still like a statue"
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #417 on: July 13, 2010, 10:00:58 AM »
I would love to play an FPS where I had to stiff-arm and then move my upper body in all directions

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #418 on: July 14, 2010, 06:08:57 PM »
Is DQX a confirmed Wii title? Or will they release it on 3DS?

I hope it's a Wii game. Will definitely skip if it becomes a handheld game again.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #419 on: July 14, 2010, 07:36:42 PM »
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/07/14/3ds_producer_commentary/

Some quotes about the 3DS from producers of videogames.

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Hideo Kojima

“I wear glasses, so I’m happy that 3D glasses are not needed. I directed the E3 demo. It was based off Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater, but the backgrounds and character modeling were all redone in high polygon. It’s not finalized, but we’re thinking about CO-OPs and other things — elements fitting of a 3D and portable game machine.”

Suda 51

“I was able to feel the speed of video game history and also the feeling of ‘We’ve come this far.’ To express the game I want to make in a word, it’s ‘The Next Game.’ Nintendo 3DS is the arrival of ‘The Next Hardware.’ So, ‘The Next Game.’”

Hideki Kamiya

“Games with dynamic scale are okay too, but I personally would like to take a different approach from the large screen and make a 3D game where you can enjoy the feeling of existence of portable 3D.”

Toshihiro Nagoshi (Super Monkey Ball 3DS)

“If future portable game machines demand that both social aspects and immersion be satisfied for when you play multiplayer and single player for instance, 3DS firmly answers these with Wi-Fi and 3D. I’d like to make a variety of proposals.”

Nagoshi also said that he believes the 3DS is an expected “conclusion” from Nintendo, feeling that starting with the 3DS, the company has seemed to have pursued game hardware as toys.

Shu Takumi

“We’ve at last reached this point! As a creator, I feel that a new challenge (considering certain things for the first time like interface issues) has started. I’d like to show a mystery in a 3D space.”

Atsushi Inaba

“I experienced a strong jolt of the feeling ‘I want to make something.’ When I first saw Wii and DS at Nintendo’s home office, I was also excited. It’s the same feeling here, but the level is completely different this time. Since the start of the game industry, there’s never been a system that better fit the words ‘dream’ and ‘next generation.’”

Keiji Inafune

“Elements for selling games are concept, technology and marketing. Nintendo 3DS is a showcase of elements for selling hardware. While keeping the appeal of portable game machines as is, it offers high processing ability, improved controls, a more appealing design, goggle-free 3D technology, and a robust 3rd party title lineup.”

Takenobu Terada

- Believes that the true 3D contender has arrived
- Terada’s team looking at different approaches for the 3DS Super Robot Wars games
- Could make something like Super Robot Wars Neo with 3D visuals or traditional 2D battles with 3D effects and cut-ins
- Something completely different a possibility, too

Shinji Mikami

“I felt that I’d definitely like to work on 3DS. Ah, it’s time for dinner with Itagaki.”

Mikami also told Famitsu that he was surprised at how well the 3D works. Images have great depth to them and really feel 3D.

Tomonobu Itagaki

“Today, I have a meeting at a yakiniku place, but I think things will heat up with talk about 3DS.”

Unlike goggles-free television viewing, Itagaki feels it will work well with a portable.

Yoshinori Ono

“We’d like to put in some ideas that make effective use of the portability.”

Hiroyuki Kobayashi

“Our own Resident Evil was shown on the show floor and was well received, but when I saw Metal Gear, I felt the new potential of the 3DS. I’d like to make something.”

Kobayashi was also “extremely surprised” by Nintendo’s games, feeling that images come to life on the screen.