Author Topic: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT| (Read 64351 times)

TripleA · « **Reply #120 on:** July 30, 2010, 08:25:21 PM »

Currently learning how to play the game, I have a feeling it's going to be a while before I get into the multiplayer

FatalT · « **Reply #121 on:** July 30, 2010, 09:02:34 PM »

165 (FatalT)

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #122 on:** July 30, 2010, 11:56:19 PM »

i'm about to sign on

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #123 on:** July 31, 2010, 03:04:52 AM »

Finally beat Optimo

Although to be fair it wasn't a straight up battle: he went for the high yield minerals on Kulas Ravine and I caught him lol; game lasted awhile though as he expanded beyond rocks and used Reapers to contain me

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #124 on:** July 31, 2010, 02:41:05 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #125 on:** July 31, 2010, 07:32:15 PM »

Beat Optimo fair and square

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then he destroyed me 3 times in a row

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CajoleJuice · « **Reply #126 on:** July 31, 2010, 07:52:00 PM »

You guys are too good.

We should really do some 3v3.

PD = Zerg
Optimo = Terran
Me = Protss

ManaByte · « **Reply #127 on:** July 31, 2010, 08:44:37 PM »

Stopped a guys Zerg rush by blockading my base entrance with Supply Depots and SCVs to repair them and he accused me of hacking.

Raban · « **Reply #128 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:06:00 AM »

Quote from: ManaByte on July 31, 2010, 08:44:37 PM

Stopped a guys Zerg rush by blockading my base entrance with Supply Depots and SCVs to repair them and he accused me of hacking.

Terran defense

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #129 on:** August 01, 2010, 04:26:54 AM »

Quote from: ManaByte on July 31, 2010, 08:44:37 PM

Stopped a guys Zerg rush by blockading my base entrance with Supply Depots and SCVs to repair them and he accused me of hacking.

:'( (on one hand it's sad to hear of terran on zerg oppression, but on the other hand I can't help but laugh at noobs)

btw dude you were right about the campaign. It's absolutely amazing so far. The first mission was boring as hell, and even though I knew it was just the first tutorial mission it really left a sour taste in my mouth for being boring. But everything else is great. I'm playing on brutal mode lol. I've done about 6 missions or so.

Definitely love the adventure game aspect of it, and being able to choose side/main missions. It's all brought together by great in-game cinematics to flesh out the story and characters, which are interesting.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #130 on:** August 01, 2010, 06:57:26 AM »

Yeah, I'm enjoying the campaign as well. The scenarios all strain credibility hugely (You have 15 minutes before the bomb explodes! First, you'll need to build a dozen SCVs, then 3 or 4 Supply Depots...) but they're consistently inventive. The urge to replay them and do better is really high. I'm still playing on Normal 'cause I can't remember much about SC, but I could see going back and doing the harder levels.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #131 on:** August 01, 2010, 12:35:42 PM »

Ha yea. Especially for someone used to hardcore multiplayer, it's pretty funny how smallbore things are in single player. I'm used to pumping out workers and massing units, but if you do that in single player the time limit can fuck you. I'm like dudes, you said I had 20 minutes, lemme macro tthnxbye

also, Raynor has a huge ass battlecruiser. Why can't he help out the guys on the ground more!

BlackMage · « **Reply #132 on:** August 01, 2010, 01:25:39 PM »

I'm not very good but if ya'll want to group up let me know I'm always down.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #133 on:** August 01, 2010, 07:28:00 PM »

Finally getting around to watching the King of the Beta semifinals; I watched the first two games of Idra vs QXC, and the first Tester vs IntoTheRainbow game

If I played like Idra in platinum/diamond 1v1 I'd get owned all the damn time. I haven't seen many Idra vs protoss games, but it seems like all his games vs terran boil down to early expansions, and 8min later he still doesn't have a good force. If someone attacks him early he's in trouble. If you let him macro it's game over.

I like getting early expansions too, but I try to have some units to deal with early pressure. Like if I'm playing Optimo, I know he's going to put crazy pressure on me early. Pumping pure drones isn't going to work. So getting speedling upgrade asap becomes very important, and a spine crawler at the expansion.

Then when the big unit push comes, you gotta be ready. I've only seen a couple games where Idra was rushed, and he had problems with it lol

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #134 on:** August 01, 2010, 08:48:20 PM »

Saw em last night. Idra/QXC was disappointing, but IntoTheRainbow/Tester and the finals both produced some incredible games.

Don't click this until you finish the rest of the tournament. Big spoilers

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Idra is a BEAST. As pleased as I am to see players prod him out of his comfort zone, I'm almost just as pleased to see him show that he IS capable of varying his style without failing terribly. I also don't think people can say Terran mech is OP anymore with Idra taking out both TLO and QXC with relative ease.

Here are some nerdgasm moments that I can remember:

-Tester repeatedly blocking Idra into his own base
-IntoTheRainbow holding off Tester's attack on Blistering Sands
-Tester's blink micro on Metalopolis
-IntoTheRainbow using banshees in TvP as a standard tactic

I know there were some other great moments but I was stoned when I was watching and can't remember half the games. Great tournament, though.

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CajoleJuice · « **Reply #135 on:** August 02, 2010, 04:34:56 PM »

Yeah, I just watched the semifinals and finals. Good stuff.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #136 on:** August 02, 2010, 11:31:51 PM »

Went to the store today and had this in my hands but decided to put it back and continue to wait until the Protoss and Zerg expansions both come out. As much as I want to play some more SC, I'm having a hard time justifying buying 1/3 of a game.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #137 on:** August 02, 2010, 11:53:34 PM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 02, 2010, 11:31:51 PM

Went to the store today and had this in my hands but decided to put it back and continue to wait until the Protoss and Zerg expansions both come out. As much as I want to play some more SC, I'm having a hard time justifying buying 1/3 of a game.

Starcraft II is 1/3 of a game in the same way Star Wars is 1/3 of a movie.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #138 on:** August 03, 2010, 12:00:40 AM »

Hey, didn't know you were back! Congrats on getting the game out. It rocks.

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #139 on:** August 03, 2010, 12:00:53 AM »

Yeah, we'll see how long I can hold out. God knows I'm weak when it comes to shit like this.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #140 on:** August 03, 2010, 12:02:51 AM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 03, 2010, 12:00:53 AM

Yeah, we'll see how long I can hold out. God knows I'm weak when it comes to shit like this.

I haven't even played the SP besides the first mission, but it seems everyone in here loves it -- at least the gameplay aspect.

MP is, well, the same deal as the original -- just better.

ManaByte · « **Reply #141 on:** August 03, 2010, 12:46:52 AM »

Shacknews' review put it well:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/64975

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This campaign is huge and completely worthy being presented as the first offering of the StarCraft II trilogy. I don't know if I would have been able to handle 90 missions all at once, nor would I have wanted 10 missions for each race in the game and each expansion.

Got a completely awesome Nydus/Hydralisk win tonight. When the guy saw a ton of Hydralisks in his base he just said "Ok. I. Lose."

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #142 on:** August 03, 2010, 01:25:09 AM »

I'd definitely agree with the point made in the article. So far the Terran campaign is impressive and long enough to justify the split. I wouldn't want to be swamped with 90 missions immediately, which would have led to more delays of the game's release - and I certainly wouldn't want 10-12 missions for each race, which would simply shrink the scope of the game.

I wonder if they'll add new units in the next two expansions/games

Brehvolution · « **Reply #143 on:** August 03, 2010, 08:54:10 PM »

A friend at work gave me a trial code so I'll hit you guys up later in the week.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #144 on:** August 05, 2010, 12:18:29 AM »

Blizz put the game on my original Battle account finally, so I have new info:

PhoenixDark 759

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #145 on:** August 05, 2010, 01:43:22 AM »

I'm looking forward to the expansions as a way to get into the other two races. Hopefully they will both have the polish that the terran campaign has had so far. Awesome game.

How much do you guys think the expansions will be? $40 a piece?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #146 on:** August 06, 2010, 11:20:56 AM »

Hopefully $40. And I wonder if they'll add new units

I wonder who you'll play in the Zerg expansion. Kerrigan? And regardless, will you be flying around in a giant Overlord?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #147 on:** August 07, 2010, 02:03:23 AM »

Idra going INSANE

[youtube=560,345]IP_ASm0XvvA[/youtube]

Husky posted the second video first accidentally

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #148 on:** August 07, 2010, 02:00:56 PM »

Apologize for playing that race

BlackMage · « **Reply #149 on:** August 07, 2010, 03:22:44 PM »

so i played my first league game and basically won 3v1 in 3v3. One teammate dropped and the other holed up to thor rush but i killed all 3 before he could do anything

ManaByte · « **Reply #150 on:** August 07, 2010, 08:49:16 PM »

Doing pretty well with Terran MMM.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #151 on:** August 08, 2010, 03:10:45 PM »

that's great

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #152 on:** August 08, 2010, 05:15:52 PM »

Suffered three ugly losses in a row today - two against toss, one against terran. Next game was against zerg and I won handily; burrow upgrade roaches beat muta/ling every time lol.

In a somewhat odd funk. I've got my early build order down, but I kinda freestyle past 20 food. Some things need to be done asap, like getting an Overseer the second you get a lair. I actually got taken out by a dumb DT rush in one of my toss games today.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #153 on:** August 09, 2010, 12:46:14 AM »

I've stolen quite a few of IntoTheRainbow's openers and strats with great success. The 2 marine + 1 marauder + 1 hellion push that he does in TvP is especially nasty.

Any of you guys doing the GAF tournament? I signed up but I've been suckin anus lately so I dunno how I'll do. I hope I don't get paired up with Valenti, cuz I hate TvT and he beat me pretty soundly the one time we played

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #154 on:** August 09, 2010, 01:03:58 AM »

You'll probably be able to run everything on medium or high

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #155 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:46:31 PM »

I should have signed up for the tournament lol

Although I've been sucking lately. Having trouble with that first push from toss and terran, surprisingly. Maybe I'm focusing too much on drones or something, but my unit production is sucking

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #156 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:53:48 PM »

Yeah I was never good at knowing when I should be droning past the first couple of minutes. I suppose that like everything else you just develop a sense for it as you play more, but it's still way different than Protoss and Terran

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #157 on:** August 09, 2010, 07:07:44 PM »

Yeah that's definitely the problem I have with playing Zerg. That, and microing Queens.

ManaByte · « **Reply #158 on:** August 09, 2010, 08:58:13 PM »

Quote from: OptimoPeach on August 09, 2010, 06:53:48 PM

Yeah I was never good at knowing when I should be droning past the first couple of minutes. I suppose that like everything else you just develop a sense for it as you play more, but it's still way different than Protoss and Terran

Get Hydralisks. Nydus network. Put them up your opponents ass. WE HAVE WORM SIGN.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #159 on:** August 09, 2010, 09:24:41 PM »

Overlord drops are also pretty boss. I like them more than Nydusing. I remember during the early beta when a Nydus took 5 seconds to build

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #160 on:** August 10, 2010, 10:58:54 AM »

Outsiders fan?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #161 on:** August 11, 2010, 02:19:32 AM »

Finished the king of the beta finals holy shit

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Amazing play by Idra. Completely dominated one of the best terran and toss players. His macro is simply amazing, and the last game showed him handling an early Zealot rush pretty damn well. Amazing

Every time I see Idra I want to test shit lol

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OptimoPeach · « **Reply #162 on:** August 12, 2010, 08:12:46 PM »

Man I love this game. I can get my ass handed to me to the point where I'm throwing my Dr. Pepper across the room and yelling/whining at the top of my lungs in impotent nerdrage, but I'm ready for more of the same by the time I get home from work the next day. I take back everything bad I ever said about Blizzard. I still have my gripes with the new Battle.net, and as of now I still think SC:BW was more exciting, but that's really about it. This is totally worth all the time and money I pissed away on WoW for all those years

Blizzard

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #163 on:** August 12, 2010, 09:41:29 PM »

I really need to start playing more. Gotta maintain at least gold league.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #164 on:** August 14, 2010, 12:31:15 AM »

nexus wars is pretty boss. got my build order down.

but basically. spam banglings and you win

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #165 on:** August 14, 2010, 12:41:11 AM »

Try Battlecraft if you like that

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #166 on:** August 14, 2010, 05:02:41 AM »

What do you guys think about Day9's new approach to videos, using a daily vblog type set up, mixing replays with lots of discussion on the game in general. I'm watching one for the first time. It seems like an introduction video to new players but also has some great discussion for more experienced players as well. Not a fan of him constantly pausing the video to make points though.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #167 on:** August 14, 2010, 09:24:45 AM »

Quote from: The Business on August 14, 2010, 03:05:48 AM

Man, I'm having trouble beating that mission after you choose to
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destroy the platform or the tunnels. I destroyed the platform.
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Now I just keep getting my ass kicked over and over again and on normal.

edit: oh you said the mission after

In that case... three bunkers on the left and right. fill em with each with four marines and 1 marauder with 3 siege tanks in arty mode behind. and have 4 scv's protecting the bunkers. that should hold off most the zerg. for the nydas worms, spam battlecruisers. you'll need around 10 or so to be safe. that's also for Kerrigan. all of them attacking her will mop her up quick. make a few banshee's around your base to attack the worms that pop up in your base

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #168 on:** August 14, 2010, 01:59:48 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 14, 2010, 05:02:41 AM

What do you guys think about Day9's new approach to videos, using a daily vblog type set up, mixing replays with lots of discussion on the game in general. I'm watching one for the first time. It seems like an introduction video to new players but also has some great discussion for more experienced players as well. Not a fan of him constantly pausing the video to make points though.

I was thinking the other day that he should just designate certain days of the week for certain skill levels, but that would probably be too much work. I'm alright with it. Like you said, he covers so much ground that every player watching should walk away with new ideas about something. I just listen to the video in the background and go click around on forums for like 20 seconds when he pauses the video and switches over to to himself lol

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #169 on:** August 14, 2010, 02:13:52 PM »

same here lol

Lost my first two games today. First to a cheap zerg rush; that's pretty much the only time I lose to zerg, and I rarely bother to 6-10pool to stop a rush because that's boring imo. Then I got raped by 5 gateway toss. I managed to beat back his first few attacks but just couldn't hold on, too much pressure; I expanded early, but even if I didn't I doubt I could have held him back off one base.

Third game was against terran which I won. Early factory/hellion harass but I managed to deal with it pretty well; I got the towers and moved my speedlings in his direction whenever I saw him coming. Game eventually came to Brood Lords against tanks lol

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #170 on:** August 14, 2010, 02:46:38 PM »

I played two games where my opponent was favored -- went 1-1. Holding my own in Gold, woo.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #171 on:** August 15, 2010, 12:58:43 AM »

Optimo and I finally finished our 5 placements in 2v2. Plat

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #172 on:** August 15, 2010, 03:48:50 AM »

I played my first round in that GAF tourney today, too. I didn't have a single good game, but I still managed to go 3-0. I have plenty of competition in this tourney, though

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #173 on:** August 15, 2010, 04:03:48 AM »

It feels way too good to beat people in placement matches. I played a random 3v3 and my two teammates got pretty much wiped out. One saved like 10 zealots and just held them in my base. I had built up a pretty decent ground force that had helped save the other teammate from total annihilation from voids. So I sent it, and I just wiped out ALL three bases.

Then one of the guys on my team was like "you want to play, you're good" so I played one 2v2 where the other team quickly disconnected but then the second match had to be the most epic SC2 match I've had. It was pretty much 2 v 1+marines, but I just managed to out macro and starve out the other team. My army was almost ALL stalkers the entire time. A few colossi and immortals and sentries and zealots and DTs, but like 85% stalkers. I blinked the fuck out of them.

I can upload the replay file somewhere if you guys want to check it out. It was amazing, omg.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #174 on:** August 15, 2010, 04:08:06 AM »

Playing against toss is a great way to practice micro as a Zerg lol. Not long ago I'd just attack Zealot/Stalker armies straight up with my Speedlings/Roaches during the first push; problem was that the Speedlings would rush to their deaths on the front line against the Zealots. Instead of needlessly wasting Speedlings, I separate my army: Roaches in front to take the brunt of the Zealot attack, then whip the Speedlings around to the back and surround the Stalkers. Once that's set up I can focus on micro'ing the Roaches against the Zealots.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #175 on:** August 15, 2010, 04:13:35 AM »

Yeah, that sounds solid.

Anyway, here's the link.

Edit: Crap that wasn't it lol

http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/misc/High%20Orbit.SC2Replay

My avg APM in the match was 40 lol

Raban · « **Reply #176 on:** August 15, 2010, 01:03:24 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on August 14, 2010, 09:24:45 AM

Quote from: The Business on August 14, 2010, 03:05:48 AM
Man, I'm having trouble beating that mission after you choose to
spoiler (click to show/hide)
destroy the platform or the tunnels. I destroyed the platform.
[close]
Now I just keep getting my ass kicked over and over again and on normal.

edit: oh you said the mission after

In that case... three bunkers on the left and right. fill em with each with four marines and 1 marauder with 3 siege tanks in arty mode behind. and have 4 scv's protecting the bunkers. that should hold off most the zerg. for the nydas worms, spam battlecruisers. you'll need around 10 or so to be safe. that's also for Kerrigan. all of them attacking her will mop her up quick. make a few banshee's around your base to attack the worms that pop up in your base

this is the exact same advice I got from a friend when I asked him the same question. Have yet to try it though, been leveling my DK.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #177 on:** August 15, 2010, 05:51:02 PM »

I'm expecting some Terran nerfs and/or Zerg buffs in the near future. Lots of fuss about one base Terran having too many options for pressuring Zerg in the early game, which I suppose is true; the main reason it's my favorite match-up is precisely because of how many aggressive openers Terran has to choose from. On the other hand, it's not like Zerg players haven't had success in tournaments with a bunch of Terran competition, so I dunno. Dimaga is threatening to change to Terran because of this perceived imbalance. Sheth, another top Zerg, has switched to Terran as well

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #178 on:** August 15, 2010, 06:17:16 PM »

And Idra has been bitching

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #179 on:** August 15, 2010, 06:37:53 PM »

Yeah him and another Zerg named LaLuSh have been pretty vocal since like phase 1 of beta, but the difference now is that all these other top Zerg players are abandoning ship.

I have this uncanny knack for accidentally picking the "overpowered" race, class, or character in so many games. This same thing happened to me in WoW with hunters and rogues, with the "BM is overpowered!" and the "Explosive Shot is overpowered!" and the "HARP is overpowered!" and the "WotF is overpowered!" and the "Mutilate is overpowered!" ughhhhhhhhhhhh

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Author Topic: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT| (Read 64351 times)