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Re: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT|
« Reply #481 on: May 31, 2011, 08:38:34 PM »
This is hilarious, Blizz related:

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Re: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT|
« Reply #482 on: June 01, 2011, 01:18:46 AM »
Watched the Q&A. No plans for LAN support. smh. Blizz should at least provide a LAN version of the game for major tournaments to use; hopefully someone asks that question soon.
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« Reply #483 on: June 02, 2011, 02:30:32 AM »
ST Bomber missed his flight to the US due to visa issues, so he won't be attending MLG. Guess who his replacement is

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MC
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=228922

He'll be playing Idra, who's been practicing for ZvT over the last couple weeks. damn
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Oh, and apparently July is going to. Wow, I've arguing on GAF that the Koreans weren't going to dominate, how the gap should be narrower on foreign soil/jet lag/lack of experience against US/EU play styles blah blah blah. Yea....I'd imagine there's gonna be a lot of upset white people in Columbus
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« Reply #484 on: June 04, 2011, 02:11:51 AM »
July's in the open bracket.  I just watched the replay of one of his games.  Terran who doesn't wall off, and July just runs some speedlings in at the five minute mark.  :picardwtf

How do they select open bracket players?

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« Reply #485 on: June 04, 2011, 03:15:37 AM »
MLG hosts online qualifiers for the open bracket, which determines seeds and invites.

Oh man, looks like a lot of the open bracket replays are already available. Was going to head to bed, but I'll watch some July matches first
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-open.html

In terms of the winning bracket (spoilers from today):
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Idra's play against MC was crazy. Looks like he perfected the aggressive play of July with a host of impressive drops and counter attacks. I really expected him to leave the second game during that Zealot rush, but he kept his composure and did some type of magic trick, because I've never seen 6-8 lings and a Queen roll over Zealots like that. Damn. He's been on a roll lately, outside of being beat down by DDE in the Complexity small tournament finals last week or so.

So far the Koreans are doing pretty well. MMA and Losira are on top of their brackets, and the other Koreans have 1 loss each. Can't wait for tomorrow.

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Re: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT|
« Reply #486 on: June 04, 2011, 03:21:42 AM »
I heard that was a good matchup.  Missed almost everything today (have a free pass from the MLG Dallas fiasco) but I'm hoping to blow off stuff over the weekend to watch some computer games gettin' played.

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« Reply #487 on: June 10, 2011, 07:30:18 PM »
I really enjoyed MLG Columbus; they rebounded from the frustrating Dallas fiasco and presented a solid weekend of games and drama. Too bad Blizzard has no plans for LAN support, it would really make tournaments better. Or at least, a LAN client for big tournaments; if they don't want to release it to everyone, fine.

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« Reply #488 on: October 04, 2011, 04:32:17 AM »
This Idra kid's gonna be pretty good.  You just watch.

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« Reply #489 on: October 04, 2011, 03:28:07 PM »
Amazing play. His mid/late game ZvT has been relatively strong for awhile. He struggles more with the early game, which has led to many losses for him; Jinro somehow managed to bunker rush him in pool play, on cross map positions Shakuras. I must admit I kinda wondered if there could be some team match fixing before that series with Puma began, but Idra won that straight up; Puma needs to work on his macro, and moving b

The finals was interesting. I figured Elfi would win, as Idra's ZvP is his worst match up+the patch nerfs. And oh man, when Xel Naga Caverns came up I thought "bah, Elfi will tie it up here." I almost always do a Roach/ling rush on that map due to how hard the late game becomes, and certainly didn't expect Idra to do it.

Can't wait for IPL3 in a few days, plus I need to catch up on the GSL round of 16 matches
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« Reply #490 on: October 22, 2011, 03:20:15 AM »
dat GSL Finals @ Blizzcon. Amazing crowd, amazing games. I really didn't expect such a good, shocking series  :o
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« Reply #491 on: October 28, 2011, 12:51:45 AM »
some TvZ 2v2 strats http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TZ_Strategy
*daps Cajole* :rock

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« Reply #492 on: October 28, 2011, 08:18:22 PM »
http://twitter.com/CatsPajamasSC2/status/130072861728706560
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IGN is going to stream our game tomorrow at 6:30pm pacific! I feel so bad knowing thousands of people will see my shitty play lol.
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« Reply #493 on: October 29, 2011, 04:31:43 AM »
Yep those strats were what I was talking about.

And :o at getting to be streamed
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« Reply #494 on: October 30, 2011, 04:01:49 AM »
My streamed game that thousands of people saw lol
http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague/b/298704000
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skip to the 1:29:26 mark. At first I thought he was trolling, but then I started getting nervous it was real.  :lol

i gave him the wrong twitter initially lmao. Crap, I should have plugged The Bore
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« Reply #495 on: October 30, 2011, 05:00:22 PM »
:o

PD, what damage indicator setting do you use? I use "selected" I see this guy uses all.

oh GOD how did you lose that??!?! :(
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« Reply #496 on: October 30, 2011, 05:22:40 PM »
Ahaha holy crap. PD is e-famous!
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« Reply #497 on: October 30, 2011, 09:48:51 PM »
I was so nervous  :lol

But yea, having watched that video twice I feel so crappy lol. I won that first huge engage but threw most of my Mutas away; totally forgot about them as I started building lings. Damn, if I had just taken those Mutas directly to his main I would have destroyed him
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« Reply #498 on: October 30, 2011, 09:49:59 PM »
Ahaha holy crap. PD is e-famous!

meh he still only has 156 twitter followers
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« Reply #499 on: October 30, 2011, 11:10:45 PM »
lol I was in the chat watching the game live, people were freaking out but no one followed me on twitter

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« Reply #500 on: October 30, 2011, 11:53:16 PM »
lol I was in the chat watching the game live, people were freaking out but no one followed me on twitter

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I would have figured you'd get some followers. You were obviously pretty good. Although watching from that other dude's standpoint he really wasn't that good, at least not that game.
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« Reply #501 on: October 31, 2011, 01:00:33 PM »
To make matters worse, he played his placement match right after our game and got demoted to platinum lol

Showed it to my brother and freaked him out lol. We've been watching HD's casts since the beta. I can die happy knowing HD said I had good creep spread
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« Reply #502 on: October 31, 2011, 04:37:31 PM »
To make matters worse, he played his placement match right after our game and got demoted to platinum lol

Showed it to my brother and freaked him out lol. We've been watching HD's casts since the beta. I can die happy knowing HD said I had good creep spread

I'm not surprised. I seriously think my 1v1 Terran would be comparable to his. Unfortunately I am terrified of jumping back into 1v1 still. And hahah @ the good creep spread. You really did that well!
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« Reply #504 on: November 04, 2011, 12:41:48 AM »
http://www.twitch.tv/ignproleague/b/299101569

1:11:00

oh god :rofl

NeoGAF???? WHAT ABOUT THE BORE

Edit: Also, I thought you were laughing at that Acer team. Looks like a bunch of 13 year olds.
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« Reply #505 on: November 04, 2011, 01:12:17 AM »
I didn't mention either forum, but some people from GAF's SC2 community have been talking to Cats Pajamas on twitter lol, trying to get me another shot.  :lol
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« Reply #506 on: December 10, 2011, 05:49:41 PM »
PD, you still play? Or anyone else? I'm gonna try to get back into it again, for real this time. I watched the GSL November finals and some of Dreamhack last night for hype.

I'm afraid of playing ladder again
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« Reply #507 on: December 10, 2011, 10:18:41 PM »
Yup still play and watch, although I took a long break. Haven't played ladder in ages, too scared also lol. Been doing customs

The November GSL Finals was easily the best.

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« Reply #508 on: January 27, 2012, 02:00:09 AM »
I'm banned from gaf for now but I need to talk sc2 somewhere yo

I really like where I'm at right now, and if all goes well I should be back in diamond league by monday. I'm currently #1 in my platinum bracket so I should get promoted soon enough. It seems like I'm back to my expected level after all the on-off inconsistency of practice.

I feel decent about ZvZ, I'm feeling good about ZvP, I'm down on ZvT.

anyway this game is classic

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« Reply #509 on: January 27, 2012, 02:30:09 AM »
You play Zerg, right?

You should send me some replays so I can give you advice and yell at you for missing larva injects.

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« Reply #510 on: January 27, 2012, 02:34:16 AM »
Are you zerg as well? What league  :o

One time we got Sheth to play with us on GAF, back when he was on FXO. And just last week a (terran) gaffer beat Spanishiwa
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« Reply #512 on: January 27, 2012, 02:57:11 AM »
Nice, I'll have to send some replays then, and we should play. I'd love to see you play GAF's masters zerg too :bow
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« Reply #513 on: January 28, 2012, 07:11:07 PM »
made it back to diamond league today :rock

Mandark what's your general feel/strat in ZvT? Like say, against 4-5 Hellion pressure that the terran expands behind. I tend to secure my natural enough to avoid drone deaths overall, but what happens is that I get stuck on two base as the terran builds up for that big marine/tank push. I tend to survive it, but if they take a third behind it then I get further and further behind.
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« Reply #514 on: February 04, 2012, 12:11:44 AM »
Well Mandark owned me pretty good. I don't get ZvZ at all. Right now in diamond it's either a two base Muta timing or baneling stuff.

I feel I'm doing pretty good with ZvP, on the other hand my ZvT is pretty bad
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« Reply #515 on: February 05, 2012, 01:46:36 AM »


holy shit @ #3, how have I not seen that before  :lol
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« Reply #517 on: February 10, 2012, 02:29:30 AM »
Where's your gl;hf?

What are we, savages?


edit: And you didn't gg in the one you lost.  For shame!
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« Reply #518 on: February 10, 2012, 03:05:51 AM »
I lost so many games that night...I wasn't even thinking about manners  :-\
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« Reply #519 on: February 10, 2012, 03:23:45 AM »
Watched both of them.  There's the general imperfections that come from not being a progamer and there's only so much you can do about handspeed and multitasking (though I think if you make it a priority to focus like hell then you can wind up with a much crisper first 5-8 minutes).

In the one you lost on cross spots, there was one huge tactical decision that was the turning point.  You kill his initial gateway push, including all his sentries, which cost a billion gas and are the key to a protoss army before collosi/storm gets out.  Checking the unit and production tabs...

You have:

   * 8 roaches (with +1 attack)
   * 19 speedlings
   * 14 more speedlings in production

He has:

   * Literally only probes and no other units


At this point, you wait 30 seconds then send just the lings at his third location.  You get him to cancel his Nexus, but because cannons are warping in and he just got a round of stalkers you have to retreat and he restarts it.  If you had just immediately waypointed everything, including the eggs, to his third then you could have shut it down for a lot longer.

This might seem really specific to that game and based on stuff you couldn't have known, but it works as general advice.  In many, many games toss will do some sort of attack at 8-10 minutes.  If you smash that attack, then remember that was his whole army.  Even if he's immediately getting a round of warp-ins at home that's not enough to secure a third.  So immediately (IMMEDIATELY) send your army to his third to make sure he's not sneaking it in.  Make this a rule.

I think it's a symptom of playing scared and responding to what you think your opponent might be able to do.  I noticed that game you were taking expansions late, putting up a ton of static defense, and getting corruptors before the robo support bay had been started (which made my heart hurt a bit).  It's easy to get into that mentality, especially playing as zerg, but gradually you should get a better sense of what your opponent is actually capable of at that specific point in the game and get more comfortable with putting on aggression yourself.

You ever got muta ZvP?

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« Reply #520 on: February 10, 2012, 03:42:28 AM »
Thanks for the advice.

I often go Muta in ZvP on maps where it's harder to take a third, such as Shattered Temp or Tal'Darim.  Also in general I do tech switch out of corrupters into mutas depending on the situation.

My basic ZvP strategy is based on a couple timings, which is a good thing and a bad thing. I always get an evo chamber at the 6min mark and then get two spores, as a precaution against DTs or stargate play; I've noticed a lot more stargate play, especially on maps where it's easier for a toss to deny/harass the third expansion.

The other timing is the 8-9min one; that's usually when a 6 gate finishes, so I'll cut drones and make a few units around that time; I do try to sack an OL around 7min to see what's up, but I've lost many a game where I start building units around 8min only for the toss to take a third. Also, Cols will usually come out around the 11min mark or so, so I often do get corrupters as a precaution. So yea, I have a serious case of Battered Zerg Syndrome, and it can definitely make me fall behind

Looking at those replays, my drone counts were pretty low, especially in that second game
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« Reply #521 on: February 10, 2012, 04:09:55 AM »
Having those early timings can be good; having dt's or phoenixes show up with no evo or lair tech is super frustrating.

But remember that ZvP timings depend on whether Protoss does a FFE or a one-base gateway opening.  So you probably want two sets of timings for your evo chamber and roach warren.

If he's trying to expand before 10 minutes, shut that shit down.  If you've smoothed out your opening enough, you should be able to do this with roaches and lings.  If he holds you off, then double expand.  Three bases mean he'll be scary.  In the future.  For the next couple minutes he's not attacking.  Only throw up spines if you're spending all your other money on econ/tech, like you're saving up for a ton of mutas when your spire finishes or something.

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« Reply #522 on: February 12, 2012, 04:00:26 AM »
I hate ZvZ
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nvu7vdkz3x58rzs

Also after raging a bit and being challenged to post a replay, GAF humbled me with a casted replay of this gem of a game
http://www.twitch.tv/vggaming/b/308319007
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« Reply #523 on: February 13, 2012, 07:20:25 PM »
I hate ZvZ
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nvu7vdkz3x58rzs

WTF?  You still could have won that!  I'm calling you Black IdrA from now on.

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« Reply #524 on: February 23, 2012, 01:42:51 AM »
Thoughts on the patch? I'm very interested in seeing some late game ZvT soon, just to see how the ghost nerf plays out. Some terran are throwing fits right nw

I only got a few ZvTs on ladder today and none got to that phase, although I did lose a horrible game against mech where I should have gotten Broods. Probably would have won with them : /
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« Reply #525 on: February 23, 2012, 05:21:56 PM »
I just got SC2 and have to say Blizz did it again. The SP is much more varied then I thought it would be, although the storyline feels less EPICZ then WC2/3/SC.

I'm currently noobing in Bronze league :rock

Any tips? I'm playing Terran.
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« Reply #526 on: February 23, 2012, 07:44:33 PM »
build marines!

this seems like a good intro guide:


also some more tips and strategies here:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Terran_Strategy
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« Reply #527 on: February 25, 2012, 07:01:10 AM »
Thanks man, wanna add me to your buddy list so you an woop my ass a few times?

I already read those strats :)

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« Reply #528 on: February 25, 2012, 04:45:22 PM »
Ranked 10th in Bronze League after a gruelling 59min noobmatch.

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« Reply #529 on: February 25, 2012, 08:29:35 PM »
Are you on the US server? If so definitely join the GAF channel: just join "Neogaf" and it should put you in our channel. We've got bronze to masters players, and it's a good place to find people to play against

and the GAF thread has a bunch of info, while also cementing my shame in the thread title:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454096

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« Reply #530 on: March 09, 2012, 11:40:33 PM »
Been working on my 3 hatch v FFA, and I feel like I played nearly as good as I can in this game:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3zbmiebrl0fpxgv

Day9 recently posted a big Stephano replay pack, and I've been watching his ZvP a lot - especially the heavy Roach timings he pulls off with 3 base/3 gas. For me it's like tip toes a fine line between making enough Roaches to punish, and not being stuck on 200/200 with no other tech.
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« Reply #531 on: May 01, 2012, 11:21:04 PM »
:drudge

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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=332406

Blizzard, Kespa, and GOM just concluded a press conference. BW is being phased out, Kespa will officially recognize SC2 as a competitive game, and include it in Proleague.

There will be a hybrid BW/SC2 proleague this month, and in October it will switch to pure SC2. Including Flash, Jaedong, Bisu (playing Terran allegedly), etc
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« Reply #532 on: May 01, 2012, 11:38:23 PM »
Buying this

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« Reply #533 on: May 02, 2012, 12:33:41 AM »
Diamond league, bitches

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« Reply #534 on: May 02, 2012, 01:55:11 AM »
sweet. What race does he play? Please don't say terran
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« Reply #535 on: May 02, 2012, 02:13:38 AM »
sweet. What race does he play? Please don't say terran

I'm pretty sure he's toss, but when we played he was random the entire time. We only played the necessary 5 matches, though.
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« Reply #536 on: May 02, 2012, 03:14:29 AM »
Badass. I'll have to play with you guys one day

oh and Mandark, you need to enter the upcoming 1v1 GAF tournament. I've hyped you to Olympian heights, people expect a zerg savior to deny the massive $100 prize from the two guys (a Terran and Toss) who win everything
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« Reply #537 on: May 06, 2012, 02:43:47 AM »
Just finished some 2v2s with Cajole. Whoa dude when did you become a Protoss god :bow

last game was played was against some dude who had an Artosis pylon. Haven't seen one in ages lol
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Re: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT|
« Reply #538 on: May 06, 2012, 03:10:45 AM »
PD has been showing me the ropes on SC.

I think thanks to him the rts genre has suddenly clicked for me.
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Re: Starcraft: Wings of Something thread of bitching about terran |OT|
« Reply #539 on: May 07, 2012, 02:38:54 PM »
HOTS features announced

Multiplayer resume from replay
Global Play
Multilanguage support
Clan/group system
Unranked matchmaking
Multiplayer replay viewing

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/5366967/Developer_Update_with_Production_Director_Chris_Sigaty-5_7_2012#blog

I'm very excited about all of that, yet I still question why some of that (which was in WCIII at launch, and many other RTS games as well) wasn't included at launch with the game, or in a later patch. Clan support is not hard, neither is unranked matchmaking or multiplayer replay viewing. Likewise global play was in SC1 at launch. Bah, oh well at least it's happening, I won't complain too much.

Good to see Blizzard has quickly adopted the multiplayer resuming mod/hack.
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