The only good Metriod (update: Maybe not so good)

[AdmiralViscen]

It looks like MOM has set a new watermark for brainless action in the Meroid series. MP3 was better than MP2.

[Third]

Damn, this game is terrible. Sometimes you don't even know what you're supposed to do.

I fell through a hole and the fsp mode triggered and I couldn't change back. Scanned basically the whole area but I couldn't detect anything. I thought it was a bug.
Did a Wii reset and was stuck again. Finally found out what I had to scan by watching a fucking youtube video walkthough.

I said it many times earlier. Team Ninja is one of the most overrated devs out there. And the controls are still terrible. Don't know how this game is getting 8+ scores. No one would care if this weren't a Metroid game.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Scans in Metroid Prime suggest that it's the same being each time.

But in MoM

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Samus comes across a little chick thing, kinda like gizmo from gremlins. It gradually grows up during the game into Ridley.  Except, its not really Ridley then, is it?  Its just another space dragon thing.

[close]

[tiesto]

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Like a bad dream. sigh

Why are the Japanese even allowed to make games at this point?

Well it still looks better than the Prime series...

[EmCeeGrammar]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Like a bad dream. sigh

Why are the Japanese even allowed to make games at this point?

Well it still looks better than the Prime series...

What, no! In prime if you stumbled across a pirate log you might get some background info on Ridley and some flavor text. That's all the story you needed for a game where the player is supposed to be immersed in the game by proxy of the samus avatar.  I don't need a game telling me I should be terrified or traumatised or crying like a helpless nancy. In prime games when you finally get to fight Ridley there's an entrance cinematic usually lasting less than 30 seconds and then you can procede to playing the game and figuring out how to beat it. Could you imagine if team ninja got their hands on Zelda or some shit? I just want you to imagine someone trying to get a voice actor for Link so we can hear about his traumatic childhood being molested by Tingle.

NERDRAGE

[Great Rumbler]

Scans in Metroid Prime suggest that it's the same being each time.

But in MoM

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Samus comes across a little chick thing, kinda like gizmo from gremlins. It gradually grows up during the game into Ridley.  Except, its not really Ridley then, is it?  Its just another space dragon thing.

[close]

I think we can just attribute that to MoM being a miserable pile of secrets.

[demi]

Even Tiesto likes it because it was made in Japan

[demi]

EmCee, about Ridley

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The ship is making bioweapons, trying to make an army out of engineered space pirates. The reason there are even Metroids is because they took samples from her suit when she got back (the baby from Super Metroid), and even pieces of Ridley were on her.

[close]

I'm sure theres a cutscene on youtube that shows this scene

[Himu]

Jesus Christ

BUYING PRIME TRILOGY

[tiesto]

Even Tiesto likes it because it was made in Japan

Yup, and I prefer 2D/2.5D over FPS any day of the week too.

[Himu]

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

GAME PERSPECTIVE != GAMEPLAY TYPE

[Himu]

MYST IS AN FPS BECAUSE IT'S FIRST PERSON!

[MCD]

Zelda need this treatment.

real action, full on voice acting, long ass cutscenes, CGs, sexism, tingle rape...

[iconoclast]

Could you imagine if team ninja got their hands on Zelda or some shit?

Zelda would actually have good gameplay?

The story is 100% Sakamoto.

[Himu]

Team Ninja without Itagaki's team = shit

[magus]

MYST IS AN FPS BECAUSE IT'S FIRST PERSON!

if you shooted thing in myst then yes it would be an fps
i don't get why people get in arms everytime someone says the game it's an fps

Zelda need this treatment.

real action, full on voice acting, long ass cutscenes, CGs, sexism, tingle rape...

the drama that would issue would be fun

[MCD]

Itagaki is all casual and friendly now, no longer relevant.

[Himu]

MYST IS AN FPS BECAUSE IT'S FIRST PERSON!

if you shooted thing in myst then yes it would be an fps

Because they treat it like it's an argument toward their dislike for the game when it does not play like an fps despite being first person.

[Third]

Team Ninja without Itagaki's team = shit

They were always a b-tier developer, even with Itagaki.

I just thought Nintendo could help them with making a decent game. I was almost right. 

[magus]

MYST IS AN FPS BECAUSE IT'S FIRST PERSON!

if you shooted thing in myst then yes it would be an fps

Because they treat it like it's an argument toward their dislike for the game when it does not play like an fps despite being first person.

and exactly how does it play?

[Himu]

In first person perspective, with an emphasis on exploration and adventure, combat is lock-on with emphasis on evasion, and weak spots more so than precise shooting. Fun fact: fps games do not have lock on.

[magus]

even if you put it in that way,it's still a game where you move in a 3D enviroment in a first person prospective and occasionaly shoot things that try to kill you

it still has the elements i hate about an fps so why should i like it or call it in another way?

you can make a driving game about moving around a city that auto brakes for you,in my mind it's still a boring driving game

[demi]

Dont u have ADHD magus? Would explain a lot... you seem to get bored by things a lot.

[magus]

if i had i wouldn't need to complain about samus having a flashback of stuff that happened 20 seconds ago

[TakingBackSunday]

This game is awesome, but I haven't gotten to any of the parts that demi's weirded out by

[demi]

Huh? What was I weirded out by? I said the cutscene was shit and distinguished mentally-challenged.

[SantaC]

MP3 was better than MP2.

lol no. MP2 had the best level in the series, sanctuary fortress and some fucking amazing music to boot. MP3 introduced shitty friends to Samus, meh. Also, a lot of talented staff left Retro after MP2 was done because they were bored with the Metroid series.

[Great Rumbler]

MP2 had the horrible dark world mechanic and an absurd key fetch quest before the finale. Samus' friends showed up a few times during the first couple hours and then once more after that, it's hardly unbearable by any means.

[fistfulofmetal]

Now that I'm in full "Never gonna play this game" mode I'm watching a ton of videos to see how bad it really is.

And woo boy.

it's a stinker.

[Trent Dole]

Now that I'm in full "Never gonna play this game" mode I'm watching a ton of videos to see how bad it really is.

And woo boy.

it's a stinker.

no shit

[Great Rumbler]

Imma save my money and get Two Worlds II in a few weeks.

[fistfulofmetal]

i just realized I can't finish Prime now because i let a friend borrow my Wii

[bork]

LOL.  The cut scenes are what drag it down.  Game play is fun.  It still gets a "B" from me so far.  Watching this on Youtube would be boring as shit, just like any other game.  :p 

I'd say to pick it up when the price drops, but it's a Nintendo game so that won't happen.

[magus]

i just realized I can't finish Prime now because i let a friend borrow my Wii

get a cube like a real man!

and chibi robo like a real japafag!

[TakingBackSunday]

Huh? What was I weirded out by? I said the cutscene was shit and distinguished mentally-challenged.

I thought you didn't like the end-game gameplay stuff?  Maybe it's a case of reading comprehension ftl, sorry

the cutscenes are bad but honestly I can't imagine why that would make anyone angry.  video game stories suck, news at 11.  game is still awesome fun though

[demi]

Even the gameplay is weak. There's not much Metroid-ing here, and the dodging is top-level casual.

If you list it among Metroid games, it's bottom rung... but place it in a different tier then sure it's "ok" - for a Wii game

[TakingBackSunday]

I think it's still Metroid, but it definitely feels more Metroid-lite.  It certainly feels like Metroid Gaiden.  I still thoroughly enjoy it, but the Prime games knew the Metroid atmosphere much more than this does.  Doesn't really get in the way of my enjoyment, though, because this game has everything I like about Metroid games: hidden powerups, fun enemy encounters, nostalgic call-backs, and a somewhat, uh, interesting take on the metroid lore.  it's cool.

[Third]

BrandNew, do you even own a X360 or Ps3?
It is proven that Wii-only gamers have poor gaming standards.

[TakingBackSunday]

I own both 

[Third]

That is surprising.

Did you like Ninja Gaiden 2 or Bayonetta?

[TakingBackSunday]

I loved NG2, not as much as Black though.  I played the demo of Bayonetta and enjoyed it too, but haven't really gotten around to buying it.

I'm really not a hard gamer to please.  As long as I have fun, I'm a fan.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Like a bad dream. sigh

you got your Japanese racial stereotypes in my Japanese regressive sexual politics!

let's have a baby called Metroid Other M

[demi]

If there wasnt much of an emphasis on cutscenes they could have fit an actual Metroid game in here

[bork]

If there wasnt much of an emphasis on cutscenes they could have fit an actual Metroid game in here

Can't argue with that!

[magus]

BrandNew, do you even own a X360 or Ps3?
It is proven that Wii-only gamers have poor gaming standards.

ehy!
i'm just poor :'(

[SantaC]

I think it's still Metroid, but it definitely feels more Metroid-lite.  It certainly feels like Metroid Gaiden.  I still thoroughly enjoy it, but the Prime games knew the Metroid atmosphere much more than this does.  Doesn't really get in the way of my enjoyment, though, because this game has everything I like about Metroid games: hidden powerups, fun enemy encounters, nostalgic call-backs, and a somewhat, uh, interesting take on the metroid lore.  it's cool.

umm all the hidden stuff are energy tanks or missiles. Because you already have the weapons on you. That is my biggest gripe with this game, how fun is it to only collect the same items over and over again? It could had used some variation for excitement. And 4 energy parts for one tank? Seriously that is straight out of Zelda.

[SantaC]

My biggest regret is not getting prime 2.

I guess I'll buy prime trilogy.

Prime2 is the most underrated Metroid game.

[magus]

mgs3 pulled off the whole mentor/pupil plot better without having nobody calling it a feminist game
ffx pulled off the whole "main character doing a monologue" better

agree/disagree?

[demi]

Disagree. MGS3 is garbage. Metroid is playable

[EmCeeGrammar]

Videogames shouldn't have stories, period
Notice how I didn't punctuate that sentence!

[TakingBackSunday]

I think it's still Metroid, but it definitely feels more Metroid-lite.  It certainly feels like Metroid Gaiden.  I still thoroughly enjoy it, but the Prime games knew the Metroid atmosphere much more than this does.  Doesn't really get in the way of my enjoyment, though, because this game has everything I like about Metroid games: hidden powerups, fun enemy encounters, nostalgic call-backs, and a somewhat, uh, interesting take on the metroid lore.  it's cool.

umm all the hidden stuff are energy tanks or missiles. Because you already have the weapons on you. That is my biggest gripe with this game, how fun is it to only collect the same items over and over again? It could had used some variation for excitement. And 4 energy parts for one tank? Seriously that is straight out of Zelda.

that's what I'm talking about: that's the kind shit I like, and it's what I've liked since Super Metroid.  I wasn't implying "NEW POWERS" because I don't really care.

[Himu]

Videogames shouldn't have stories, period
Notice how I didn't punctuate that sentence!

Eh, I disagree with this philosophy because it nulls certain game types that benefit from story and dialogue, such as adventure games. Not the puny Nintendo type, but classic point and click, solve puzzles type.

I'm fine with games being cinematic (Uncharted 2) so long as they don't equate "cinematic" as lots and lots of cutscenes (FF13). There's a difference. A game can be story-based without having the story shoved down the player's throat.

Both extremes are stupid: games shouldn't have stories and all games should stories - both mentalities are wrong and illogical; like anything in life, it depends and there is no black and white.

[magus]

yea gotta agree with himuro

you know the thing that make me so pissy is that nintendo did story based game a long time ago!

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

this truth just got lost because TEXT IS EVIL OOGA BOOGA! and now we have to suffer metroid other m pissy plot as "nintendo attempt at story telling"
(the last one has a much more kickass snes remake but i couldn't find a video on youtube
did i mention the remake was distribuited tough nintendo somewhat early version of the internet?
adventure games downloaded trough the web! surely the first thing that pops in your mind when thinking of nintendo amirite?)

EDIT: in case you want to see the snes remake go here
http://mmcafe.com/nico.html
and type this
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4463583

[SantaC]

nintendo has made several story based games through out the years. It's called a rpg.

[Great Rumbler]

Videogames shouldn't have stories, period
Notice how I didn't punctuate that sentence!

Other M's story is:

-Terrible
-Obtrusive
-Breaks the hectic flow of the gameplay
-Terrible

Putting story into games isn't the problem here.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Stories and games are incompatible as far as I'm concerned. If I want characters and plot and being all empathic-like, I'll go watch a movie.  The last thing I want when I play a game is exposition, cutscenes, or dialouge boxes. I can stomach it if say, its like pokemon, where every person in the world has autistic spectrum disorder. All they do is talk about pokemon. What in effect happens is that the NPCs are almost like a hint system and tutorial all in one. That I'm fine with. It helps me play the game better or understand concepts integral to the core mechanics. What I cant stand is say, fire emblems impenetrable political hijinks that have jack shit to do with helping me understand important things- like which member of my party needs to talk to that one sarcastic enemy so I can recruit him.

[Great Rumbler]

 

[EmCeeGrammar]

It's not hard to comprehend. You better believe I skip any cutscene when applicable.

[Himu]

Story in games isn't the problem, the problem is HOW certain developers implement story into their games. Often the best game stories barely have any cutscenes (Silent Hill 2, Majora's Mask).

[Himu]

emceegrammar annihilated.

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