Author Topic: Dark Souls (Read 260709 times)

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1800 on:** October 26, 2012, 02:48:59 PM »

really depends on what weapon you want to use. Certain weapons scale better than others via STR/DEX, check the equipment screen. Weapons have stat scaling values on their status, you get shit like C, D, B etc. next to an icon which will tell you which stat scales the weapon damage

Robo · « **Reply #1801 on:** October 26, 2012, 05:01:37 PM »

I'm so indecisive! I originally wanted to go STR, but I don't wanna be slow and encumbered with armor and shit either. And I'm not sure what sort of goals I should set, stat-wise—like what I'm trying to build up to.

chronovore · « **Reply #1802 on:** October 26, 2012, 06:50:51 PM »

Quote from: Raban on October 26, 2012, 01:03:07 PM

Blighttown? That's barely a quarter into the game.

That's as far as I got. :'(

SantaC · « **Reply #1803 on:** October 27, 2012, 02:48:17 PM »

Dark Souls proves that you dont need complicated controls, long tutorials or a billion cutscenes like Zelda recently.

That said, I would love them to add towns with only npcs and no monsters in next Souls game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1804 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:07:18 PM »

Got my Dark Souls code from Amazon.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #1805 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:10:58 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 28, 2012, 01:07:18 PM

Got my Dark Souls code from Amazon.

As did I

Another great game that I have no chance in hell of playing anytime soon :'(

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1806 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:03:19 PM »

That large ass dude with the club when heading down to what I assume is Blighttown is pounding my puckered butthole

I understand the strategy needed to beat him but he always seems to get me when he has a sliver of life left. He has this deceptive swing that allows him to come in for a second pound.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1807 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:08:52 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 28, 2012, 02:03:19 PM

That large ass dude with the club when heading down to what I assume is Blighttown is pounding my puckered butthole I understand the strategy needed to beat him but he always seems to get me when he has a sliver of life left. He has this deceptive swing that allows him to come in for a second pound.

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there's like two more right after that one

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BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1808 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:10:16 PM »

Are you FUCKING serious?! Oh my GOD

For some reason its being a real hair in my asshole. Its probably the weapons I'm using (the Black Knight Sword). Its pretty slow to swing but obviously powerful. Maybe I should upgrade a spear or something.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1809 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:28:07 PM »

I think there's a total of 6 or 7 of those dudes in Blighttown.

Blighttown is admittedly one of the first make or break sections of the game. It tests your patience with confusing layouts and lots of annoying enemies, some with really bullshit attacks.

the only advice I will give is: make sure you have purple moss and blooming moss.

Raban · « **Reply #1810 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:40:59 PM »

I really feel like Blighttown is when the game starts.

And BT, try parrying. If you're on PC with the unlocked framerate, it's actually pretty easy to do. Specifically the overhead smash and side swipe.

SantaC · « **Reply #1811 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:59:45 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on October 28, 2012, 02:28:07 PM

I think there's a total of 6 or 7 of those dudes in Blighttown.

Blighttown is admittedly one of the first make or break sections of the game. It tests your patience with confusing layouts and lots of annoying enemies, some with really bullshit attacks.

the only advice I will give is: make sure you have purple moss and blooming moss.

tomb of giants is way worse. Thanks to the shorttcut in blighttown you can skip like 60% of the actual area.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1812 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:09:29 PM »

Quote from: Raban on October 28, 2012, 02:40:59 PM

I really feel like Blighttown is when the game starts.

And BT, try parrying. If you're on PC with the unlocked framerate, it's actually pretty easy to do. Specifically the overhead smash and side swipe.

On PS3 unfortunately and I've been such a pussy in regards to parrying cause I second guess myself when it comes to the correct moment to parry. I just watched a vid on it though and will try and practice. I'm currently playing like the Hulk and I think I would be better suited with more finesse.

Speaks to the depth of this game though. Seems like you can get by with a single tactic, although you'll die a lot. Seems best when you try many different tactics, weapons and armor. Hope they develop the next King's Field like this.

SantaC · « **Reply #1813 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:20:33 PM »

those dudes with giant clubs are easy. They're nothing from what you encounter later

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1814 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:35:44 PM »

SantaC · « **Reply #1815 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:43:30 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 28, 2012, 03:35:44 PM

;_;

get a greatshield, block the attack, spam R1 or R2. Profit.

Raban · « **Reply #1816 on:** October 28, 2012, 05:19:38 PM »

There will never be another King's Field, rest assured.

I can't imagine playing the game approaching every enemy with the same tactic. Pretty much every encounter in the game is deliberately designed and there's almost always a clear path to success, it's just about execution.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1817 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:01:34 PM »

Is there anything I need other than DSFix?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1818 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:13:11 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 28, 2012, 07:01:34 PM

Is there anything I need other than DSFix?

Balls

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1819 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:32:56 PM »

I already played DS about 20 hours on Xbox.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1820 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:48:32 PM »

Quote from: Raban on October 28, 2012, 05:19:38 PM

There will never be another King's Field, rest assured.

I can't imagine playing the game approaching every enemy with the same tactic. Pretty much every encounter in the game is deliberately designed and there's almost always a clear path to success, it's just about execution.

I believe someone high up from From stated that they would like to return to King's Field. It would be an interesting break in between a next gen Dark Souls or something but I'm just wishing here.

Raban · « **Reply #1821 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:00:19 PM »

I would be very pleased to see a source on that. The only thing I remember hearing is that Souls director Hidetaka Miyazaki is a huge fan of those games (the influence on his work is obvious), and that dark fantasy is part of FROM's DNA, which... No shit. Of course they'll make another Souls-style game, but I highly doubt we're gonna see a new game with the title "King's Field" on the box.

Again, I'd love to be wrong, I actually like the King's Field games more.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1822 on:** October 28, 2012, 10:17:19 PM »

Quote from: Raban on October 28, 2012, 09:00:19 PM

I would be very pleased to see a source on that. The only thing I remember hearing is that Souls director Hidetaka Miyazaki is a huge fan of those games (the influence on his work is obvious), and that dark fantasy is part of FROM's DNA, which... No shit. Of course they'll make another Souls-style game, but I highly doubt we're gonna see a new game with the title "King's Field" on the box.

Again, I'd love to be wrong, I actually like the King's Field games more.

I remember reading a GAF thread where people were freaking out over the quote but can't find it now. The only thread that comes up is a quote about reviving the series via smartphones or tablets with an emphasis on still being hardcore or something.

I just wish they'd look at the wild success of Skyrim and the success of the Soul series and think on the possibility that a hardcore first person game ala King's Field could be viable commercially if its heavily connected with the Souls series.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1823 on:** October 28, 2012, 10:40:19 PM »

I remember the first time I played Dark Souls last year. I didn't know where to go, I didn't know what to do, and I constantly got myself killed.

Now, I'm rolling like a boss.

naff · « **Reply #1824 on:** October 29, 2012, 01:11:30 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 28, 2012, 03:35:44 PM

;_;

What strategy are you using against them? And are you using a shield with 100% phys block? This is one of the biggest keys to the game, and staying under at least 50% equip load. Anyway all you need to do is circle strafe and backstab those big dudes with clubs, I NEVER parry in this game or in Demon's Souls. Just keep dat shield up, circle strafe and backstab, keep circle strafing with your shield up wait til he misses you, go in for the kill keep it simple and methodical fancy shit like parrying is for pros/PvP completely unnecessary for PvM except maybe the final bossfight depending on your build. Screw greatshields too, get something light with 100% phys block like the Spider Shield at the beginning of the sewers.

SantaC · « **Reply #1825 on:** October 29, 2012, 04:12:41 PM »

here is my setup:

Zweihander +15
Black Pharis bow +15
Giants Shield +15
Giants helmet +5
Giants armor +5
Giants gloves +5
Giants leggings +5
Ring of favor & protection
Havels ring

demi · « **Reply #1826 on:** October 29, 2012, 04:42:23 PM »

Quote from: Raban on October 28, 2012, 09:00:19 PM

I would be very pleased to see a source on that. The only thing I remember hearing is that Souls director Hidetaka Miyazaki is a huge fan of those games (the influence on his work is obvious), and that dark fantasy is part of FROM's DNA, which... No shit. Of course they'll make another Souls-style game, but I highly doubt we're gonna see a new game with the title "King's Field" on the box.

Again, I'd love to be wrong, I actually like the King's Field games more.

Kings Field is very much better.

I own them all~

KF1, KF2, Shadow Tower, KF Ancient City, Eternal Ring

I know there's a translation for the jap-only PSX game... and recently there was a translation for the PS2 sequel to Shadow Tower.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1827 on:** October 29, 2012, 05:15:47 PM »

Demi best taste on the internets

Quote from: quietID on October 29, 2012, 01:11:30 AM

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 28, 2012, 03:35:44 PM
;_;

What strategy are you using against them? And are you using a shield with 100% phys block? This is one of the biggest keys to the game, and staying under at least 50% equip load. Anyway all you need to do is circle strafe and backstab those big dudes with clubs, I NEVER parry in this game or in Demon's Souls. Just keep dat shield up, circle strafe and backstab, keep circle strafing with your shield up wait til he misses you, go in for the kill keep it simple and methodical fancy shit like parrying is for pros/PvP completely unnecessary for PvM except maybe the final bossfight depending on your build. Screw greatshields too, get something light with 100% phys block like the Spider Shield at the beginning of the sewers.

I actually got past him. I grew some balls and used two Parry and Riposte and finished it off with a swing or two. Really easy to parry it but the danger was extremely high obviously (one hit is insta-kill for me). Now I'm getting my ass pounded in the upper woods area.

Raban · « **Reply #1828 on:** October 29, 2012, 07:19:36 PM »

parrying

I recently figured out how to parry Black Knights, I feel like a super-badass running around in Lautrec's armor one-shotting big baddies like it's nothing. Since placing the Lordvessel I've just been kinda goofing around. I tried fighting Seath and that went very poorly, then decided to check out the Painted World and messed that dragon up instead.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1829 on:** October 29, 2012, 07:55:53 PM »

Rocking my Drake sword

Raban · « **Reply #1830 on:** October 29, 2012, 08:18:20 PM »

No judgement, but I feel like the Drake Sword is a pretty dumb weapon at the beginning of the game. It's way more useful to find a weapon with some good stat scaling that you can keep with you and level up for a long time, ideally all the way to the end. Watching my friends use it and going from my own experience, it trivializes the weapon upgrade and stat scaling elements for most of the game's beginning, systems you ought to be familiar with as soon as possible.

From what I understand about the stats in this game, it's better to pick equipment you know you want and spec into it so that as you get stronger, so does your weapon. I could be wrong, though, that's just how it's worked for me.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1831 on:** October 29, 2012, 09:03:09 PM »

The Black Knight Sword scales with strength and dexterity I believe and can be obtained in Undead Burg? (I think its called) Its been my go to sword and I've killed bosses rather easily with it. Needs high strength to handle it though.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1832 on:** October 29, 2012, 10:45:10 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 29, 2012, 09:03:09 PM

The Black Knight Sword scales with strength and dexterity I believe and can be obtained in Undead Burg? (I think its called) Its been my go to sword and I've killed bosses rather easily with it. Needs high strength to handle it though.

I need one of the regular Black Knight swords, the Black Knight Greatsword's stats are just way too high for me right now.

The Drake Sword is a really good weapon for early on, and by the time it becomes less useful you should have other weapons that you use.

naff · « **Reply #1833 on:** October 30, 2012, 01:47:36 AM »

Yeah drake sword is really good for a while. Easy to one hand, lasted me a good while then switched to zwei for the rest of the game. Been pumping dex on my pc playthrough. Not digging katanas and stuff, I love smashing things with big fuck off swords.

Raban · « **Reply #1834 on:** October 30, 2012, 03:59:38 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 29, 2012, 09:03:09 PM

The Black Knight Sword scales with strength and dexterity I believe and can be obtained in Undead Burg? (I think its called) Its been my go to sword and I've killed bosses rather easily with it. Needs high strength to handle it though.

Yeah, the Black Knight Sword is an amazing weapon that will carry you through the game. It's a little too slow for me, but the trade-off is being able to flatten bitches like pancakes.

SantaC · « **Reply #1835 on:** October 30, 2012, 03:16:37 PM »

you can get a zweihander in the first 15 minutes of the game, which ironically is probably the best strength weapon in the game. It scales with str and dex, and the R2 is incredibly powerful as it can knockback almost everything. Even those mega knights in anor londo.

naff · « **Reply #1836 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:17:07 PM »

Yah, but you can 1 hand the Drake sword in the beginning with 16 STR iirc and you'll do better damage 1 handing it than two handing the Zwei for a while. Base Drake outmatched Zwei at +5 till I was up to Sens Fortress

SantaC · « **Reply #1837 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:30:26 PM »

Quote from: quietID on October 30, 2012, 04:17:07 PM

Yah, but you can 1 hand the Drake sword in the beginning with 16 STR iirc and you'll do better damage 1 handing it than two handing the Zwei for a while. Base Drake outmatched Zwei at +5 till I was up to Sens Fortress

well yeah, but zweis longer reach is also an important factor. I have basically played with the same sword the whole game. I got the dragon greatsword with it's super R2 attack, though it consumes durability so i switched back to zwei.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #1838 on:** October 30, 2012, 04:35:13 PM »

I can't quite get the timing with the Zweis down, it just feels so award in close quarter encounters. Unless I'm supposed to backup and use its reach to my advantage?

SantaC · « **Reply #1839 on:** October 30, 2012, 05:11:46 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 30, 2012, 04:35:13 PM

I can't quite get the timing with the Zweis down, it just feels so award in close quarter encounters. Unless I'm supposed to backup and use its reach to my advantage?

raise stamina and you can do R1, R1, R1 in one sweep. Will kill most nearby enemies. As for the powerful R2, use it on enemies that are important to knock back (etc large orcs or knights)

Raban · « **Reply #1840 on:** October 30, 2012, 05:19:57 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on October 30, 2012, 04:35:13 PM

I can't quite get the timing with the Zweis down, it just feels so award in close quarter encounters. Unless I'm supposed to backup and use its reach to my advantage?

Absolutely, feel no obligation to attack right away. For groups, try to corral the enemies so you can clear out many with one swipe.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1841 on:** October 30, 2012, 11:12:43 PM »

Dont forget the jumping attack (tap forward and R2). Has mad reach and squashes assholes real good

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1842 on:** October 31, 2012, 06:32:56 PM »

Rolling out with a Zweihander +5. Feels good, man.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1843 on:** October 31, 2012, 10:01:37 PM »

Its just so good having the Zwei going through Undead Burg at the start. One hit kills all round

SantaC · « **Reply #1844 on:** November 01, 2012, 02:42:11 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 31, 2012, 06:32:56 PM

Rolling out with a Zweihander +5. Feels good, man.

wait until that zwei hits +15

along with high str and dex you're going to murder bosses easily.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1845 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:01:17 PM »

Should I do one of the magical upgrades for it, or just keep going along the normal upgrade path?

Raban · « **Reply #1846 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:09:27 PM »

Sticking with pure damage is more versatile, because pretty much everything in the game takes physical damage. Doing a magic upgrade usually trades raw damage and better stat scaling for bonus elemental damage, so it's more about what you want for that weapon. I'd find a secondary weapon you like and ascend that to something like Divine, as it'll come in handy later when you're fighting skeletons.

SantaC · « **Reply #1847 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:49:06 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2012, 03:01:17 PM

Should I do one of the magical upgrades for it, or just keep going along the normal upgrade path?

normal upgrade path will do most damage.

SantaC · « **Reply #1848 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:52:17 PM »

also, have you killed Havel? He drops the best ring in the game. He can be killed already in undead burg if you got master key.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1849 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:54:11 PM »

Yeah, I took him down a while ago and I'm currently wearing his awesome ring on my finger.

Edit: Right now I'm putting most of the my points in Strength and some of my points in Dexterity. Is there any other stat I should set aside a point or two for on occasion?

SantaC · « **Reply #1850 on:** November 01, 2012, 03:57:26 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2012, 03:54:11 PM

Yeah, I took him down a while ago and I'm currently wearing his awesome ring on my finger.

Edit: Right now I'm putting most of the my points in Strength and some of my points in Dexterity. Is there any other stat I should set aside a point or two for on occasion?

yeah vitality and endurance

str, dex, end and vit are the best stat upgrades if you're going melee character.

edit: NEVER raise resistance as it is the most useless stat upgrade in the game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1851 on:** November 01, 2012, 04:12:15 PM »

That's basically where I've been putting my points, so I'm good.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1852 on:** November 01, 2012, 08:25:27 PM »

I'm putting off going to Blightown as long as I can, but...I'm gonna have to there eventually, aren't I? Sucks so bad. :'(

Raban · « **Reply #1853 on:** November 01, 2012, 09:17:16 PM »

I didn't think it was that bad, you just gotta worry about the toxic assassins. They don't respawn so if you make it a point to hunt them down the rest is pretty cake once you get a handle on being aware of your footing at all times. A lot of people fall to their deaths there. The worst part is the gnarly framerate drop, but I imagine if you're playing on PC with DSfix, this is not a problem.

Anywho, I just finished the game

I think the shittiest part of the game is Lost Izalith. Everything else was a load of fun, even during all the painful, humiliating deaths. I managed to kill Gwyn entirely by parrying, so fuck anybody who says not to parry. Learn it, know it, live it.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #1854 on:** November 02, 2012, 10:30:53 AM »

I have the Master Key so I'm gonna skip Blightown this playthrough. Nothing I need there. Going to the depths to rescue the Pyromancer, then shortcutting. Cant wait to check out the new content.

SantaC · « **Reply #1855 on:** November 02, 2012, 03:13:25 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 01, 2012, 08:25:27 PM

I'm putting off going to Blightown as long as I can, but...I'm gonna have to there eventually, aren't I? Sucks so bad. :'(

personally I thought Tomb of Giants was worse. Atleast you can take a shortcut in blighttown that will save you a lot of pain (and you dont miss much)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1856 on:** November 02, 2012, 09:46:18 PM »

Was that you that killed me, FatalT? Come on, man, not in Blighttown.

SantaC · « **Reply #1857 on:** November 03, 2012, 07:24:44 AM »

dont get cursed

FatalT · « **Reply #1858 on:** November 03, 2012, 02:03:43 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 02, 2012, 09:46:18 PM

Was that you that killed me, FatalT? Come on, man, not in Blighttown.

I don't think so! I haven't invaded anyone yet.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1859 on:** November 03, 2012, 02:05:26 PM »

Somebody invaded my game and killed me. You were the only person playing Dark Souls on my friend's list, but I guess it was just a random person?

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Author Topic: Dark Souls (Read 260709 times)