Donkey Kong Country Returns - Retro the new Rare?

[Oblivion]

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3182479

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-19-donkey-kong-country-returns-review

http://wii.ign.com/articles/113/1135734p1.html

I'll let you guys decide whether that's a good thing or not.

[magus]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

[cool breeze]

This game looks pretty fun judging from the videos.  Could be the first good Donkey Kong Country game, though, still probably fall short of Jungle Beat.

[Oblivion]

Jungle Beat's crap, so Retro shouldn't have that much difficulty in surpassing it.

[cool breeze]

don't be mad that you lack the arm strength to use the gamecube bongos

[magus]

This game looks pretty fun judging from the videos.  Could be the first good Donkey Kong Country game, though, still probably fall short of Jungle Beat.

yea! jungle beat is awesome and it piss me off how's everybody has their eye on this game but nobody gave a shit about jungle beat

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don't be mad that you lack the arm strength to use the gamecube bongos

i played the wii version

[Bebpo]

Jungle Beat's crap, so Retro shouldn't have that much difficulty in surpassing it.

FAIL

[Oblivion]

don't be mad that you lack the arm strength to use the gamecube bongos

It's not my fault, it's a condition! AIGHT?  

 :'(

[iconoclast]

There's a wii version of jungle beat? Never knew that. Does it work with the gc bongos?

[magus]

There's a wii version of jungle beat?

ayup,it was the last new play control game released,bongo controls have been replaced with normal controls,
(well normal wii controls... you still fight boss and punch thing by waggling) i think they also changed some thing around... in this version you unlock level in sets of 3 without trouble while i seems to remember that in the original you are forced to get a high score to unlock the next level?

other game in the series included pikmin and pikmin 2 with pointer abilities,mario power tennis with waggle control and the metroid prime trilogy

there was also a redone version of chibi robo but it was japan only because nintendo is a cheap fuck like that!

[Damian79]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

You fail to mention even then they gave the game an 8 and that it is better than new super mario brothers wii and a toss up between kirby's epic yarn.

[Great Rumbler]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

You fail to mention even then they gave the game an 8 and that it is better than new super mario brothers wii and a toss up between kirby's epic yarn.

Gamespy gave it a 7.0, but they're biggest complaint was that the game was TOO HARD.

[Bebpo]

Too hard because of good challenge or because of shitty waggle fucking up jumps?

The answer will determine if the game rocks or sucks.

[Great Rumbler]

Too hard because of good challenge or because of shitty waggle fucking up jumps?

The answer will determine if the game rocks or sucks.

Here's what it says:

Somewhere between 1996 and 2010, Diddy got himself a cool jetpack, which comes with a very handy hover-jump. Many of the game's most challenging areas are designed with this ability in mind... which means if you've lost Diddy (take two hits, and it's back to the barrel for him), things tend to get a lot harder. Never impossible, mind you, but it damn sure feels that way sometimes.

But if I take offense to anything, it's the hellish levels that saddle you in an airborne barrel-ship, forcing you to exercise measured button-presses in order to control your elevation and flight angle as nonstop obstacles bombard you... all resulting in one-hit kills.

[Damian79]

You see, in his quest to rid his home island of weird tiki invaders (whose hypnotic powers have turned the wildlife feral), Donkey Kong enlists the help of constant series sidekick Diddy Kong, who -- after being liberated from a suspiciously marked barrel -- dutifully rides on the king of Kong's back. Somewhere between 1996 and 2010, Diddy got himself a cool jetpack, which comes with a very handy hover-jump. Many of the game's most challenging areas are designed with this ability in mind... which means if you've lost Diddy (take two hits, and it's back to the barrel for him), things tend to get a lot harder. Never impossible, mind you, but it damn sure feels that way sometimes. It gets even worse when you play co-op with a friend, as whoever takes Donkey Kong is effectively handicapping themselves in what amounts to the game's hard mode.

I'll be honest: I Super Guided eight of the game's 62 main levels (die 10 times, and a CPU-controlled stand-in will optionally finish the problem area for you, similar to New SMB Wii). A few amounted to oh-no-I've-lost-Diddy-related challenges, while others were straight-up reflex assaults, in the form of the series' time-honored mine cart rides. But if I take offense to anything, it's the hellish levels that saddle you in an airborne barrel-ship, forcing you to exercise measured button-presses in order to control your elevation and flight angle as nonstop obstacles bombard you... all resulting in one-hit kills. And while DKC Returns features a typically forgiving checkpoint system, it gets pretty stingy at the most inopportune times. Yeah, it's always quite satisfying to polish off a particularly tough level, but boy, does this game make you earn it in some pretty crazy ways that border on mind-numbing frustration.

Basically he says the jumps are hard with donkey kong and losing diddy makes the game very hard.


EDIT:  yeah what great rumbler said.

[Sho Nuff]

Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

[EmCeeGrammar]

NPC Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was freaking amazing. Had new levels too if I'm not mistaken. I think DKCR will be pretty good, but I'm gonna miss that combo multiplier.

[Van Cruncheon]

Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

dkc was and remains abominable

[AdmiralViscen]

what the fuck is that youtube

[Great Rumbler]

what the fuck is that youtube

"Gaming in the Clinton Years" is a series of short video game reviews from the latter half of the 90s'. The reviews often contains huge errors concerning the games reviewed, commentary that ranges from cringeworthy to so-bad-it's-good quality and pointless stuff added in to pad out the review (sometimes even the ending of the game). They were narrated by Geroge Wood. The videos became popular after Retsupurae made comedic commentaries over several of the GitCY videos, and the videos became something of a meme.

Did this ever air on TV?

The most common reactions to people when first watching the reviews are "WTF?", "Ha ha, Retsupurae", and "Breast cancer?". Another common reaction is "Did this shit ever air on TV?" And the truth is, yes it did. There are no definite sources on the internet, but several comments on the videos and on various forums says that the reviews were made as segments for a TV show called Flights of Fantasy, and it was broadcast on a public access channel in Maryland, USA. This seems plausible, as a "Flights of Fantasy" logo appears at the end of every video, and the name is even mentioned at the end of one of the videos.

[EmCeeGrammar]

This game looks like it will bust your balls open
http://digitalchumps.com/video-gallery/viewvideo/1485/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns-qplatform-panicq-why-you-need-this-game.html

and then eat your unraveled testicle.

[AdmiralViscen]

That quicklook made it look pretty good. Will buy for sub $30

[tiesto]

Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

dkc was and remains abominable

Original DKC sucked, but the music was awesome. 2 was a bit better, at least. And I liked what I've played of Returns (only a few demo levels), control and hit detection are much tighter than the Rare games. The only thing is the level graphics aren't as imaginative as some of the wilder DKC2 levels (like the vine levels or the beehive ones).

[EmCeeGrammar]

That quicklook made it look pretty good. Will buy for sub $30

This is a first party nintendo game.  They don't drop prices, just discontinue it.

[Phoenix Dark]

Hated this game back in 1996

[youtube=560,345]63t6VdvZ-QA[/youtube]

did he just compare The Mask's effects to Jurassic Park?

[Sho Nuff]

This was even better

[youtube=560,345]h4i6QoWONLQ[/youtube]

[Third]

Can't wait for this game. Loved all the SNES DK games.

[pilonv1]

This was even better

[youtube=560,345]h4i6QoWONLQ[/youtube]

@ the Blanka figure

[pilonv1]

I cant stop watching these, they need their own thread

[AdmiralViscen]

That quicklook made it look pretty good. Will buy for sub $30

This is a first party nintendo game.  They don't drop prices, just discontinue it.

I know this

[Positive Touch]

guys i noticed this donkey kong discussion doesn't include mention of donkey kong 64

[Raban]

guys i noticed this donkey kong discussion doesn't include mention of donkey kong 64

Anyways, if Retro is the new Rare, I want a new Jet Force Gemini. Give it to me, Retro.

[Bebpo]

I might pick this up.  I bought but never played Metroid because everyone said it sucked, I skipped Kirby because it looked baby, skipped Sonic because duh it's Sonic, skipping Epic Mickey because I have KH and don't need this lame disney stuff, but this looks genuinely fun.  Plus I like Retro even if each Prime game had a bunch of problems.

Also it may sound weird logic, but I don't mind buying 1st/2nd party Wii titles because I'm not saying anything with my money when I do.  I don't buy 3rd party Wii titles because I want them to all bomb so they don't make 3rd party games on Wii, but since 1st/2nd party titles aren't going anywhere else I'm ok with supporting them.

[Raban]

Speaking of Metroid, I just booted up my Prime Trilogy and cannot fucking play FPS with nunchuks. I thought it was bad on consoles, but Wii nunchuks for FPS is so fucking awful it makes me want to choke a baby. What the fuck. Not even the OPTION to use the classic controller.

[cool breeze]

I might pick this up.  I bought but never played Metroid because everyone said it sucked, I skipped Kirby because it looked baby, skipped Sonic because duh it's Sonic, skipping Epic Mickey because I have KH and don't need this lame disney stuff, but this looks genuinely fun.  Plus I like Retro even if each Prime game had a bunch of problems.

Also it may sound weird logic, but I don't mind buying 1st/2nd party Wii titles because I'm not saying anything with my money when I do.  I don't buy 3rd party Wii titles because I want them to all bomb so they don't make 3rd party games on Wii, but since 1st/2nd party titles aren't going anywhere else I'm ok with supporting them.

I understand where you're coming from.  I haven't bought a Wii third party game all year and the only one I plan on getting is Epic Mickey.  The others I just rented or borrowed, and while I like building a collection, I always think "maybe this will come to the 360/PS3 in the future" and hold off on buying it.  Like, I played a bit of Red Steel 2 and enjoyed it months ago, but I just bought it the other day because it was $5.  Initially I was waiting to see if they'd do a PS3 port for the move.  It's one reason I haven't bought Goldeneye (yet), Sonic Colors, or a bunch of other Wii games.  But I had no problem buying Sin and Punishment 2 at full price.

and I went ahead an ordered DKCR from Amazon since it was $45 plus a $10 credit, which seems better than waiting for it to drop.  It looks pretty fun.

Speaking of Metroid, I just booted up my Prime Trilogy and cannot fucking play FPS with nunchuks. I thought it was bad on consoles, but Wii nunchuks for FPS is so fucking awful it makes me want to choke a baby. What the fuck. Not even the OPTION to use the classic controller.

nintendo doesn't want to acknowledge that it exits

even DKCR doesn't have classic controller support and the only only motion control in that game is a waggle to roll/blow/bang.  The complexity of the action is the same as a button press, but they still don't let you map it to a button press like they should.  Even in NSMB Wii there were those lame segments where you needed to tilt the remote around to move platforms.  Though, apparently you can rig the controller up to play like a normal game through the Dolphin Wii emulator.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Speaking of Metroid, I just booted up my Prime Trilogy and cannot fucking play FPS with nunchuks. I thought it was bad on consoles, but Wii nunchuks for FPS is so fucking awful it makes me want to choke a baby. What the fuck. Not even the OPTION to use the classic controller.

First, set the controls to advanced in options. This eliminates the bounding box.  Then, just get accustomed to looking around in an area without enemies. It feels weird for the first hour but it eventually becomes very smooth and second nature. The turning speed will always be kind of slow, but the game is designed around that for that most part. However, Prime 1 and 2 were designed around the lock-on, so make sure when playing those games to set the lock-on/free aim option to off. This makes it when you lock on to a target your reticule is locked and can't go anywhere else. I dabble in Prime 1 on the trilogy and there are a few bosses that almost require this.

[Stoney Mason]

Looks pretty fun. And generally speaking I'm not a fan of Donkry Kong Country.

[SantaC]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

It's Retro studios (bungie 2.0), they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

[Mr. Gundam]

yea! jungle beat is awesome and it piss me off how's everybody has their eye on this game but nobody gave a shit about jungle beat

I bought the Jungle Beat bongo bundle when it dropped to $10 on clearance. 

[bork]

I cant stop watching these, they need their own thread

There was one two years ago!  I guess this was before the videos were put on Youtube.  Host George Wood was way, way too obsessed with games' "ending ceremonies."  That's all he seemed to care about.  They would also go and spoil games by showing the full endings, too.   

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=25683.0

This is the best one by far.  Both the numerous references to the at-the-time two year old movie and the general ignorance about fighters just makes for  .

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Then there's Chrono Trigger:
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And in the Goldeneye review, he says that "if you beat the game on the hardest mode you will open up hidden levels for the four player mini-games, which we can't show you because we only have one controller.  And frankly, we don't care about the multiplayer stuff.  Noone buys a videogame specifically for multiplayer options" 
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[iconoclast]

Alpha 2 was amazing.

Clearly Dan is the best character in the game due to his strong legs.

[Dickie Dee]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

[bork]

Alpha 2 was amazing.

Clearly Dan is the best character in the game due to his strong legs.

They had multiple Street Fighter video game reviews, and there's so few (if any) special moves done in any of them (combos?   ).  Just SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP JUMP KICK BISON SLIDE

SSF2 review, where multiplayer is ignored except for them telling you to cheat in 1P by using the 2P to select the same character as the CPU so you won't have to fight them.
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

He even says that "special moves are not as vital to success as in the previous games.  M. Bison is the key to success...use him and his 'side kick' move.  Press DOWN AND R simultaneously..." 

[bork]

One more, because who can forget the comparison everyone wanted!?

Resident Evil: Virtually impossible without a hint book."
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[SantaC]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  Remember how overrated Corruption was.

[etiolate]

dude we don't do that sort of sincere trolling here

[Phoenix Dark]

One more, because who can forget the comparison everyone wanted!?

Resident Evil: Virtually impossible without a hint book."
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

btw broks, DKC was cool as a kid for awhile, but even then it wasn't hard to realize it was just a meh game with great visuals/music

[Himu]

DKC vanilla got boring. DKC2 was great.

[Great Rumbler]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  Remember how overrated Corruption was.

So I guess Eurogamer [9/10] and Computer & Video Games UK [8.8/10] are just aberrations then?

[Diunx]

Those reviews are very informative, for example I had no idea that nintendo invented 3d graphics.



Street fighting games

[cool breeze]

Super Street Fighter 2 
"you can cheat to see all the endings, which are really good."

whoever made those is brilliant.  It has to be aliens that were trying to tap the government's communication back in the 90s, but accidentally connected to a geocities rom site.

StarFox
"you can win fairly easily by cheating"

Demon's Crest

"Easy to beat--or is it"

[bork]

Wow, Flights Of Fantasy really had no clue that some games were made for MULTIPLAYER.  Fighting games, Goldeneye, even NBA JAM all got the same comments.   

DKC was cool as a kid for awhile, but even then it wasn't hard to realize it was just a meh game with great visuals/music

I got bored of DKC pretty quickly as well...like a week after release.  Never felt that the game play had much going for it-- it was clearly popular because of its graphics.

Donkey Kong '94 on the Gameboy was so much better.  That was an amazing game, but nobody cared.  I couldn't get any of my friends to try it.  Instead of making it the Super Gameboy game, it should have been a full-on SNES release.

[magus]

of the positive review i have read,this one seems the most fair
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/19/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/
as opposed to destructoid which described the game as
Donkey Kong Country Returns is a perfect videogame experience, from start to finish.

IT WILL MAKE YOUR BALLS EXPLODE FROM AWESOMENESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Wow, Flights Of Fantasy really had no clue that some games were made for MULTIPLAYER.  Fighting games, Goldeneye, even NBA JAM all got the same comments.  

DKC was cool as a kid for awhile, but even then it wasn't hard to realize it was just a meh game with great visuals/music

I got bored of DKC pretty quickly as well...like a week after release.  Never felt that the game play had much going for it-- it was clearly popular because of its graphics.

Donkey Kong '94 on the Gameboy was so much better.  That was an amazing game, but nobody cared.  I couldn't get any of my friends to try it. 

i played donkey kong country a while back and it was okay... still DK94 is what you should play,i got so pissed when they turned mario vs donkey kong from DK94 semi-sequel to a lemmings clone

DK 94

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  Remember how overrated Corruption was.

So I guess Eurogamer [9/10] and Computer & Video Games UK [8.8/10] are just aberrations then?

Savaged.  SantaC caught up in yet another failed troll effort.

[TakingBackSunday]

this game is really, really good.

[Himu]

Want

[SantaC]

ah i can't stand review of hyped game,they seems there just to suck cocks... "YOU SHOULD TOTALY BUY THIS AWESOME GAME" yea right

the most negative review i've read so far it's gamesradar
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/donkey-kong-country-returns/review/donkey-kong-country-returns-review/a-20101118201029574078/g-2010061595520444006/p-2
they call the game frustating and talk about how apparently waggle is related to jumping so sometimes you miss a jump because of waggle

they would get a high score by the american media even if they released a banana in a box. Americans love their successful dev teams.

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I've ever read.

awww did I piss you off. Edge(british mag) gave the game a 7 and said it was more of the same (built on the snes game), but now when retro is making it is suddenly amazing  Remember how overrated Corruption was.

So I guess Eurogamer [9/10] and Computer & Video Games UK [8.8/10] are just aberrations then?

Savaged.  SantaC caught up in yet another failed troll effort.

that's funny since you said i only troll 360 games?

[Third]

Forget Epic Mickey. This is the game worth playing. Played a few levels. It´s really good.

[Third]

 yarr

[TripleA]

I hear the game gets frustrating, might gamefly it.

Slightly off-topic but does anyone know when Rare will start making real games again?