The Official Psychoanalysis GAF Thread

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

McDonalds pandering to black community in America so they can tap in to that negro market. They're deliberately making a separate site called 365black so it's marketable and not easily identifiable in mcdonalds affiliation. They want to pander to the black community but they don't want to be seen as a necessarily "black product", because when products become uniformly attached to black people, sales dip due to that very same reason, both from white and blacks alike due to its name being attached to blacks. For examples in history, see Pepsi. In the late 40's early 50's, Pepsi went through an ad campaign that pandered exclusively to black audiences. They were dubbed as "nigger coke". Pepsi had to go through a tremendous brand identity change to get over the devastation of this. 365black is merely McDonalds trying to branch out and increase their audience, and being a very open-minded and liberal company, while at the same time, not making their McDonalds name the head of the program's moniker. Otherwise, they would be doing this under regular ol' McDonalds.

Advertising 101.

That and ever since Wendy's is now the #2 fast food burger chain, Burger King (now #3) is trying to tap into the black market.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/19/news/companies/wendys-burger-king/index.htm

[Momo]

Is Sprite still popular btw? Seems like it totally died after attaching itself to NBA in the 90's

[Positive Touch]

[brob]

I used to mix vodka with sprite in my teens. Can't drink it anymore, shit just tastes like/reminds me of vodka.

[Himu]

Sprite is still popular with the black market. Being anecdotal, the only people I know who drink Sprite are blacks. I always get Sprite when I go out.

Also, yes, Burger King is now trying to tap in the black market. That is usually par for course of a product's life. If it is seen as unsuccessful, it is suggested to try to pander it to minority markets. Sometimes it takes off (Sprite), sometimes it backfires (Pepsi). Burger King's recent string of ads, in my opinion, will work against them. It reeks of trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. No one wants to see Nicki Minaj act a fool except for maybe impressionable young girls. The credit towards Sprite's success of the 90's were the people attached to the product itself and the messages contained within the ads: cool, stylish ads that banked in on the rap and NBA boom. That got people's attention and appealed a certain niche. Micki Minaj acting like a dumbass in Bugrer King is not going to increase sales, BK. I bet Amirox's cum stained t-shirt BK won't see a sales increase without examining why Wendy's took their market - the awesome dollar menu and quality food.

[Robo]

I used to only drink Sprite before I kicked soda a few years ago.  If I get a soda now, it's Coke Zero.  Sprite Zero is fucking terrible.

[Momo]

Sprite or Lemon Soda with Vodka was my vice in my teens as well.  I don't drink soda very often, but it's rarely sprite. I always try for Dr. Pepper and if thats not available some other cinnamon cola variant then mountain dew.

[Himu]

In Britain, Sprite is called lemonade, though that's a nickname it seems. I'm surprised you call it Sprite, Momo. Brobzoid, too. To my knowledge, products like Sprite and Mountain Dew did not see the same success they did abroad as they did locally.

[Momo]

Lemonade is the general term for that kind of drink, but we still have the Sprite brand in the commonwealth. Mountain Dew isn't exactly popular here, I'm one of the few people that drink it. People do mostly Coke, Fanta, Sprite, Lemon Twist then Iron Brew here.

[Broseidon]

Yeah, we have Sprite here.

[Lan]

omfg

[Himu]

In America, lemonade is a fresh squeezed lemon juice and lemons mixed with tons of water and sugar. Tastes nothing like Sprite.

[Momo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola#Boycott_of_Coke_for_its_investments_and_operations_in_apartheid_South_Africa

It's funny how Pepsi are generally seen as the "good guys" while Coke has 95% market share over Pepsi's 2%

[Momo]

In America, lemonade is a fresh squeezed lemon juice and lemons mixed with tons of water and sugar. Tastes nothing like Sprite.

That, is also lemonade here. Sprite and the like is seen as carbonated lemonade

[Eel O'Brian]

pummaband

[brob]

In Britain, Sprite is called lemonade, though that's a nickname it seems. I'm surprised you call it Sprite, Momo. Brobzoid, too. To my knowledge, products like Sprite and Mountain Dew did not see the same success they did abroad as they did locally.

sprite is very popular here, and frankly the only citrus soda readily available. the competitor, 7up, is very hard to find. Which is sad because I prefer it.

We also have Urge, though that's slightly different.

"Urge is a citrus flavored soft drink produced by Coca Cola Norway. It is the Norwegian equivalent of Surge. It was originally introduced in Norway in 1996 as a test product. Surge was launched in the United States in 1997. Surge and Urge are no longer sold anywhere else, but after a steady decline, Urge sales increased greatly in Norway, reaching a market share near 10%"

Products are often introduced in the Norwegian market as a test, because Norwegians are very set in their ways (ie boring), so it's somewhat amusing that Urge caught on like a motherfucker, but tanked everywhere else.

[Tasty]

Don't most monkeys have white skin under their fur?

Exactly it's a perfect metaphor for you.

I fricking burst out laughing.

[Chinner]

yeah sprite is pretty popular over here.

[Momo]

You guys have all the funky Fanta flavours? I remember being willing to lay down hurt for apple fanta as a kid.

[blame space]

sprite zero is so offensively bad I almost can't believe it is still being sold.

[brob]

y'all remember dark dog? Can't recall if it tasted good (prolly not). We used to drink it by the bucket while playing wipeout, because we didn't have red bull.  :'(

[Broseidon]

pummaband

 

[Eel O'Brian]

that's how the dude in that video pronounces permabanned

[Chinner]

i like ur avatar momo

[Mr. Gundam]

You guys have all the funky Fanta flavours? I remember being willing to lay down hurt for apple fanta as a kid.

Fanta is pretty limited in the states. We have orange, strawberry, grape and grapefruit. Apple exists in certain parts of the country, but not up here in the Seattle area.

The big Japanese grocery store here in Seattle stocks Japanese Fanta. USA Hiphop was awesome, as is Golden Apple.

[bork]

You guys have all the funky Fanta flavours? I remember being willing to lay down hurt for apple fanta as a kid.

Fanta is pretty limited in the states. We have orange, strawberry, grape and grapefruit. Apple exists in certain parts of the country, but not up here in the Seattle area.

The big Japanese grocery store here in Seattle stocks Japanese Fanta. USA Hiphop was awesome, as is Golden Apple.

Melon is my favorite Fanta flavor.  I went apeshit when I found that Asian supermarkets carry melon soda, but never the Fanta brand...never saw bottles in Japan either, for that matter- always seemed to be fountain drink machine-only.   :'(

[Phoenix Dark]

Sprite and blacks have gotten along for centuries

[Great Rumbler]

Sprite is for wusses. Real men drink Squirt.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I remember the Penny Hardaway / Chris Rock Sprite commercials that are getting to be about 20 years old now.

[pilonv1]

I remember the Penny Hardaway / Chris Rock Sprite commercials that are getting to be about 20 years old now.

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/hardaway-and-rock-in-a-lil-penny-reunion/

[Himu]

In the us we have Welches soda, almost making Fa Fa irrelevant. Pineapple Fanta is the best one btw.

[Joe Molotov]

Is Sprite still popular btw? Seems like it totally died after attaching itself to NBA in the 90's

Their fortunate rose and fell with the career of Grant Hill.

[Joe Molotov]

I'm just glad to see Mellow Yellow making a come back. I remember it being around when I was kid, then it disappeared for decades, and now all of a sudden it's everywhere. Firehouse Subs has it on tap with Cherry, Grape, and Peach flavoring too.

[Eel O'Brian]

mello yello used to be a mountain dew knockoff with a much...uh, mellower flavor

they changed the formula years ago, now it's more of a knockoff of sun drop (which is kind of an exclusive NC soft drink)

[Tasty]

Sprite was my favorite for years, but then it was Vault, but then two or three years ago Coke started replacing Vault with Mello Yellow (in the Northeast, apparently the south has had it forever), and I really do love MY. Same flavor as Sprite but sweeter.

[Great Rumbler]

mello yello used to be a mountain dew knockoff with a much...uh, mellower flavor

they changed the formula years ago, now it's more of a knockoff of sun drop (which is kind of an exclusive NC soft drink)

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I've seen some Sun Drop around in Texas, good stuff.

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah, i was just reading on the wiki page where they've been expanding distribution in recent years

i used to get all    for it whenever i'd travel, even on the NC borders it was hard to find in stores

it's loaded with caffeine

Among soft drinks, it is known for its high caffeine content (63 mg per 12 oz can, 9 mg higher than a 12 oz can of Mountain Dew, but not as much as Vault with 70.5 mg per 12 oz can).

[pilonv1]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470933

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470933

Dr. Pleb to star.

[Shaka Khan]

He's capable of putting together some of the best threads sometimes, to the point where I start questioning why I disliked him in the first place, but then he goes through the trouble of reminding me.

[Takao]

I'm expecting this thread to be less stupid than the last one. I remember people got insanely hyped for the last Nintendo Direct, and then it came out with worse announcements than Vita Game Heaven would.

[Tasty]

I'm expecting this thread to be less stupid than the last one. I remember people got insanely hyped for the last Nintendo Direct, and then it came out with worse announcements than Vita Game Heaven would.

Which one?

The last one I remember is the one where they announced TLS was getting localized by Xseed (along with some other smaller announcements) and I remember the general feeling of it being "pleasantly surprised" as opposed to Vita Game Heaven's "What was the point of this? To lose sales?"

Edit- This is the Nintendo Direct I was talking about. Some nice game trailers, a solid interview, date confirmations for several titles, and a surprise localization announcement. That's what I would consider "above average" for an internet streaming conference, so about a B. Vita Game Heaven was like a F---.

Also the Nintendo Directs in general have had decent production values, the whole format and show itself is actually surprising coming from Nintendo but it's very welcomed.

[Shaka Khan]

It's getting hot in here. Are you gonna take shit from him, Tak?

[Takao]

I consider new game announcements considerably more important than localizations of games that are supposedly not very good. Vita Game Heaven had interviews, some nice game trailers, dlc announcements, and date confirmations for several titles. As well as the announcement of 6 new Vita games. Admittedly, half of that six are logo announcements, but still. I'll give you presentation though, Vita Game Heaven was an absolute mess and felt like SCEJ was just advertising their Youtube channel.

Outside of GAF and other hardcore forums the response to Game Heaven did seem to be a bit better. I suppose it helps that news outlets generally tried to cover all of the announcements rather than duckroll's "PSO2 announced, MGSHD + Persona 4: The Golden dated nothing else" approach and didn't have a forum thread hyping things up days in advance with speculation. For example, I don't think there was ever a thread of GAF about Inafune's Vita game, which admittedly was announced with such classic quotes as "It will be a very Inafune game", but at the same time it sounded like SCE is the publisher, so I expect that to exist. The non-coverage was weird since Duckroll was one of the people who tried to keep VGH expectations in check. He seemed to realize that if Sony had any big games that they weren't going to announce them without an actual press conference.

SCEJ probably shouldn't have done the whole teaser site to get people hyped, and they could've used a better name (Vita Game Heaven does imply it would entail announcements to save Vita) but I still think the raw announcements were better than Nintendo Direct even if it was really poorly told. I'll admit The Last Story announcement was good, not because I was waiting for the game, but rather that it showed that Nintendo was gaining some sanity in regards to allowing games their western branches don't want to be localized by third parties. That said, it sounds like TLS may be a very special case.

[parallax]

mello yello used to be a mountain dew knockoff with a much...uh, mellower flavor

they changed the formula years ago, now it's more of a knockoff of sun drop (which is kind of an exclusive NC soft drink)

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I think sun drop is branching out. I see commercials for it all the time now in la.

[Himu]

Takao, when your gaf ban goes up, please stick around.

[parallax]

Do a lot of people leave when their bans of gaf lift?

[Himu]

yes

[Momo]

when my ban is lifted im getting the fuck outta here   

[archie4208]

I stayed around after I was unbanned.   

[Timber]

I ain't never going back, not never.

[tiesto]

I ain't never going back, not never.

How did you get banned, btw? I always thought you were one of the more mature and intelligent posters on GAF.

[Momo]

I always thought you were one of the more mature and intelligent posters on GAF.

If you contrast this with things like Wario64's entire post catalogue it's not hard to see that most regular people will be driven up the wall by GAF at some point.

[Broseidon]

It didn't take a ban to get me to sign up 

[fistfulofmetal]

if i got unbanned i wouldn't go back to gaf full-stop. i would post in a few places. like the wrestling thread. it's clear my posting style doesnt jive with the place so i wouldn't bother for the most part.

[Takao]

This thread makes my head hurt. People saying it looks like a PS2 game, to people suddenly surprised Sly has friends? Wut.

[Steve Youngblood]

I plan to leave this place after I get unbanned over at GAF. I just need to get banned first.

[Momo]

This thread makes my head hurt. People saying it looks like a PS2 game, to people suddenly surprised Sly has friends? Wut.

Lacks Nintendo whimsy

[Owl-faced Wizard]

I always thought you were one of the more mature and intelligent posters on GAF.

If you contrast this with things like Wario64's entire post catalogue it's not hard to see that most regular people will be driven up the wall by GAF at some point.

?  Wario64 is a lamb, you fat pile of crap (I'm just guessing you're fat, I have no way of verifying that).

[Huff]

lamb?