Nintendo 3DS thread

[Great Rumbler]

preorder: canceled

You used that preorder money to get Neptunia, didn't you?

[Sho Nuff]

Looks like tons of them are readily available in Japan

Oh wait they're region locked! Hurrrr

[Damian79]

So we know that for sure?  That they are region locked for everything?  I might have to get 2 3ds'es now.  FUCK YOU NINTENDO.

[magus]

preorder: canceled

You used that preorder money to get Neptunia, didn't you?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/choujigengameneptune/review.html

Characters are disturbingly sexualized caricatures of young girls

how could anybody resist a premise like that?

[Joe Molotov]

preorder: canceled

You used that preorder money to get Neptunia, didn't you?

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/choujigengameneptune/review.html

Characters are disturbingly sexualized caricatures of young girls

how could anybody resist a premise like that?

prepare to be disappointed....Neptunia's premise is...a role-playing game that revolves around hypersexualized young girls

Bad review, reviewer clearly doesn't understand the genre.

[Himu]

Why did my ds have to break RIGHT WHEN 3DS is going to come out? It's like a ticking time bomb. At SA there's one billion ds lite's breaking down in the 3ds thread.

LOOKS LIKE I'M BUYING A 3DS

[Himu]

Are you fucking insane? Why buy a ds if 3ds is an alternative? You can also play ds games on the 3ds without stretching on top of having a new machine that will be able to play new software which I'm going to buy anyways?

that is HORRIBLE advice!

[Himu]

Who gives a flying fuck about 3d?

Go drool at some crappy gaming engine.

In any case, it doesn't seem like there's much to the 3ds launch aside from Pilotwings ( I've never played the snes one), Steel Diver and Monkey Ball?

I'd def. get Monkey Ball with my 3ds.

[Himu]

Nope! What do you do in those games?

[Himu]

Fly around? Is it arcadey or...

[maxy]

Why did my ds have to break RIGHT WHEN 3DS is going to come out? It's like a ticking time bomb. At SA there's one billion ds lite's breaking down in the 3ds thread.

LOOKS LIKE I'M BUYING A 3DS

I see lots of posts like that lately,buuu my DS broke :'(,oh well 3DS here i come ...hmm


Then again buy this doomed device if you want

Reacting to Nintendo’s President Satoru Iwata's comments at the Game Developers Conference this week, equity research analyst Michael Pachter of Wedbush Securities said that in the long term "Nintendo is doomed." He was referring to Nintendo's fight in the handheld space with Apple's iOS devices and Android based smart phones.

"Long-term, Nintendo is doomed," said Michael Pachter. "He’s under full frontal assault by Apple."

Others in the industry also had comments for Nintendo:

"He may be right, but then the 200 to 300 million people who play games on Facebook are wrong," said Jeff Brown, the VP of corporate communication for Electronic Arts. "Social gaming as a whole aggregates into a business that is undeniably big money. When it’s that big you are forced to pay attention."

"I expected better from Nintendo," said Zynga's Brian Reynolds, who shifted from making hardcore strategy games to a new job at the social game maker. "They are missing the point of what we are doing, We are making games that everyone can play and socialize on while playing."

http://emoney.allthingsd.com/20110302/no-ones-buying-nintendos-cautionary-tale-about-mobile-and-social/?mod=ATD_rss

Pachter is now nintard public enemy number one,they will hold a grudge until the end of time.
 

It will be interesting to see Wii successor,unique gimmick supply is running low.

[Great Rumbler]

"I expected better from Nintendo," said Zynga's Brian Reynolds, who shifted from making hardcore strategy games to a new job at the social game maker. "They are missing the point of what we are doing, We are making games that everyone can play and socialize on while playing."

Zynga 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I don't think Nintendo will ever be doomed due to the sales potential of their IPs, even if they were to go back to their N64 and GameCube days.  Nintendo is just incredibly complacent and is pissed that other people are making headway into Nintendo's blue ocean strategy.  Even if Nintendo were to doom itself Sega style, it would need about five financial PS3 or Saturn-like calamities before they can be in a position to consider themselves doomed.

[Great Rumbler]

Social games [like on Facebook] are a cancer, I'll agree with Iwata on that.

[Raban]

[Diunx]

Social games [like on Facebook] are a cancer, I'll agree with Iwata on that.

Why? they are free, some of then are actually fun and you can play them with your friends I see nothing wrong with facebook or web games.

[Eel O'Brian]

Nintendo isn't doomed hardware-wise at all, they make systems with cheap components that generate profit per unit from day one, and people buy them over and over again only to throw them into a closet or a drawer somewhere months later, sometimes forgetting they even own them.

[Shaka Khan]

... they repurchase them because they forgot they've owned them in the first place? GENIUS!

[Eel O'Brian]

that's not what i meant, i meant they keep buying their new systems and don't buy much software other than nintendo brands

i'd bet there are thousands of wiis out there right now that haven't been turned on in a year or more, and i'd also bet those same people will buy the next nintendo system based on whatever shiny gimmick it comes with only for it to be layered in dust months later

[Van Cruncheon]

more specifically, they sell super-cheap plastic shit to dumb kids and fat almost-men, which is a replenishing and almost ceaseless revenue model

[archie4208]

My main beef against social/F2P games is that they typically have a sleazy business model with an end cost that greatly exceeds a normal retail game.

[Eel O'Brian]

my brother and sister in law play those facebook games all the time and never spend a dime

[maxy]

Gaming is expanding,casual and core(much slower),isn't that what Nintendo wanted this gen?

Crying won't help now,adapt or prepare to see others taking money(people).Core gamers will be there,but only for core(content,content) games everything else will be met with...hmm,this shit is much cheaper on "insert platform here",not buying from you

Casuals,that audience must worry Nintendo,they will buy the hardware(when it gets cheaper),but software...tough times for expensive shovelware

[Van Cruncheon]

more specifically, they sell super-cheap plastic shit to dumb kids and fat almost-men, which is a replenishing and almost ceaseless revenue model

Sir, under oath of the court, how many pieces of Nintendo hardware have you purchased? 

in my defense, i am stupid and have the maturity of a 10 year old

[Himu]

Gaming is expanding,casual and core(much slower),isn't that what Nintendo wanted this gen?

Crying won't help now,adapt or prepare to see others taking money(people).Core gamers will be there,but only for core(content,content) games everything else will be met with...hmm,this shit is much cheaper on "insert platform here",not buying from you

Casuals,that audience must worry Nintendo,they will buy the hardware(when it gets cheaper),but software...tough times for expensive shovelware

it's not about crying. it's about standards.

now that people can get 1-2 dollar games off of the app store, why buy a full priced game? why even bother? when people start asking that, another gaming crash happens.

[Great Rumbler]

That's the scenario Iwata has in mind, I think. The problem is rising costs for big budget games with thinning profit margins, coupled with the rise in popularity of cheap, easy to consume mobile and social games. I'm not quite as pessimistic as that, but I think it's pretty obvious that a lot of companies are going to start shifting resources towards those two markets and it could very well be to the detriment of people that want big expensive games with ZOMG awesome graphics.

[maxy]

Gaming is expanding,casual and core(much slower),isn't that what Nintendo wanted this gen?

Crying won't help now,adapt or prepare to see others taking money(people).Core gamers will be there,but only for core(content,content) games everything else will be met with...hmm,this shit is much cheaper on "insert platform here",not buying from you

Casuals,that audience must worry Nintendo,they will buy the hardware(when it gets cheaper),but software...tough times for expensive shovelware

it's not about crying. it's about standards.

now that people can get 1-2 dollar games off of the app store, why buy a full priced game? why even bother? when people start asking that, another gaming crash happens.

Because good full games will have tons of content and buttons...important stuff for gamers
$1 apps will be made by few people and have production value of rotten rat...just like various shovelware that Nintendo(and others)  try to sell at full price

$1 apps will never match something like COD,Zelda,Mario,etc.If they do then big players should go down.I'm talking generally,btw

You can't enforce standards in entertainment,people do what they like.

COD LTD(US) is almost 12 million,I don't see those people ditching adrenaline pumping games and going exclusively to some few $$$ app.

[Himu]

I'm not talking about enforcing standards, I'm talking about the INDUSTRY'S standards.

Also you talk about big budget blockbusters and 2 dollar games on the app store as if a middle ground doesn't exist.

I mean, I love the app store as much as anyone but it is a pressing concern.

Also, nintendo AND sony are both IDIOTS for not emphasizing user customization and user generated content, especially on a store. that is how the app store boomed in popularity: user content. If they allowed customers the same tools they could fight apple on their own terms and with superior games that you can't do on the idevices.

[maxy]

Middle ground problem is that consoles are quite old,tons of games on the market,huge competition,tough to reach the surface.Apps also have that problem,but they have one big advantage...little risk

I see this as motion controls vs core fight...adapt and move on

Nothing is stopping Sony and Nintendo to have something like Apple+huge core games.Well nothing except selling expensive "apps like games"

[Himu]

i tend to prefer games that are middle ground. a lot of the games that are described as such are usually on the portables these days, which is why i prefer handhelds. =/

[Van Cruncheon]

iwata is weeping and wailing because nintendo just lost the blue ocean. the red ocean still wants the $60 mega games, and now nintendo has to slink back to it and try to compete -- or start selling wario ware shit for 2 smacks a pop

[Purple Filth]

My main beef against social/F2P games is that they typically have a sleazy business model with an end cost that greatly exceeds a normal retail game.

That's if you decide to pay it.

[archie4208]

The only F2P game I've played for an extensive amount of time is League of Legends whose competitive nature almost requires spending money.  You either have to spend real money or play for ~20 to 50 hours to unlock one character and Riot pumps out characters biweekly.  There is also a persistent rune system where you have to spend in game points to buy permanent stat increases.  The entire thing feels like a big grind and I would be happier if I could spend $60 to unlock all the characters and runes instead of having to play with characters I don't like for dozens of games before I get the one I want.  There are also DLC skins that require real money to access, although that doesn't bother me.

I bought the starter pack a few weeks ago for $20 and got about 1/4 of the characters so I am obviously willing to spend money on the game, I just hate the concept of paying $10 for one character or grinding for a long time.

For games where you pimp your farm, then the business model doesn't bother me.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I hope things don't go completely down the shitter, but the media create numbers didn't look too encouraging for the launch.  I may lack perspective in that regard, but software didn't seem to be selling buttloads.

[Great Rumbler]

The 3DS needs a definitive title, like Nintendogs with the DS. Right now, it's mainly DS sequels and that's not going to cut it, I think.

[Great Rumbler]

I may lack perspective in that regard, but software didn't seem to be selling buttloads.

wasn't the top selling game at around 140k on a machine that had 8 launch titles and shifted 400k unit?

Seems fine to me - not many games are shifting great numbers in Japan these days.

Layton, the top 3DS games, sold about 120K, total 3DS hardware sales were around 375K.

By the way, the six 3DS games in the top 20 added up to around 340K.

[pilonv1]

I'll be all when the social network gaming bubble bursts.

[originalz]

Yeah, when I walked by Bic in Ikebukuro they were advertising that they had 3DS in stock.

[Trent Dole]

iwata is weeping and wailing because nintendo just lost the blue ocean. the red ocean still wants the $60 mega games, and now nintendo has to slink back to it and try to compete -- or start selling wario ware shit for 2 smacks a pop

A-fucking-men to that.

[Damian79]

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/61975/

Nyko doubles the battery life for another $20.  Awesome.

[Nintendosbooger]

I love how N-haters conveniently forget select portions of gaming history in order to maintain their N-hating fan boy delusions.

The DS, the 3DS's predecessor, didn't exactly light the charts initially, despite being the successor to the legendary GBA, until the first wave of Nintendo juggernauts, most notably Nintendo Dogs, were released.

You guys can wish and pray that Nintendo doesn't release another ground-breaking, record setting game like Brain Age or Nintendo Dogs for the 3DS, but it'll all be in vain, because it's going to happen, and in 5-6 years, we'll be right back here - snickering at the unspectacular showing and the imminent demise of 3DS's successor.

And even if the 3DS proves to be dull in comparison to the DS - Nintendo made so much money this cycle that they can afford to suffer three dismal generations of Gamecube-like mediocrity, and still be well off.

Face it, ladies, Nintendo has this gaming thing on lock.

[magus]

who let booger out of the cage? uh? uh? 

[magus]

"Hey, the machine might be a total let down, but at least my FAVOURITEST COMPANY IN THE WHOLE WORLD will make bank! Hurray!"

ahahahahah yea,people acts like the videogame market is a football tournament

[Phoenix Dark]

ahahahahah yea,people acts like the videogame market is a football tournament

yup, i don't care which company entertains me - the point is that they do ENTERTAIN. I don't particularly give a shit how much $ they make as long as it's enough for them to continue operations.

Not surprising coming from an Xbot. Nintendo fans want their company to make as much $ is needed to innovate and evolve. That amount is more than it would take to simply "get by" which is what other, lesser companies do

[Damian79]

But Nintendo dont innovate or evolve when hey have money.  They are at their best when they NEED money.

[Nintendosbooger]

But Nintendo dont innovate or evolve when hey have money.  They are at their best when they NEED money.

No company is at their "best" when they've reached their financial comfort zone, but if I had to choose from among the 3 companies as far as pumping out lazy shit as a result of being financially overbloated, I'll go with Nintendo. They still have FUN in their DNA and we're still seeing some nice quirky stuff coming from them this generation despite their position in the gaming pecking order. What do we get from a winning Sony? "GET A SECOND JOB TO BUY AND SUPPORT OUR NEXT CONSOLE!" Microsoft? "Pay $49.99 for this gimped title, and we'll make sure the rest of it is available as DLC for $29.99. "

[cool breeze]

Sony is probably preferable than Nintendo for my interests.  They did put out the PSP while the PS2 was still stylin on the competition, and Nintendo barely surpasses that beastly thing six years later.  And even with the PS3 they were trying (emphasis) to make an absolute beastly console.  And now, despite being at the shit end of major hardware makers, they're still putting out a beastly handheld.  Their biggest problem is how terribly they manage it all, and whether or not that changes with the PSP2, at least I'm happy that they'll be going out with a bang.

Nintendo is just kinda shit.  I say this as someone who considers the Zelda series his favorite game series, and the two Mario Galaxy games as some of the best games out there.  They make good games when they want to.  As a hardware company, they're really disappointing.  Old ass tech with a gimped gimmick to give it that sheen just isn't enticing.  Not to mention their failure to catch up to online systems a decade old, and even simple things like an account.  No doubt the exclusive software will be great, but in a situation where the exact same software came out on all systems, I wouldn't touch any hardware made by Nintendo.

So yeah, can't wait to get my 3DS in ~2 weeks 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Oh not this shit again.  Console launches before end of fiscal year, software rushed for launch, often mediocre

See psp(except ridge racer), ds, xbox 360 (except... geometry wars?), wii (except warioware), gamecube, ps2, xbox, ps3 etc.  Arguably the only consoles to have jaw dropping groundbreaking stuff out of the gate was Mario 64 and Soul Calibur Dreamcast.

[Himu]

Uh... psp had one of the best launches ever, personally.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Eh, I got one the summer after it launched and it was slim pickings.  Lots of shitty capcom ports/remakes. 

[Himu]

lumines, metal gear acid, ridge racer, wipeout pure;etc

[EmCeeGrammar]

Ewwwww.... I did forgot about lumines.  Can't remember if I liked it or not.

[Sho Nuff]

Oh yay, Nintendosbooger is back!!!!!!!

[Himu]

decided to go with samurai warriors and monkey ball for my launch titles. don't know wtf this pilotwings shit is, never played.

on launch day i will pick up 3ds, pokemon black, samurai warriors and monkey ball.

and I will be able to play my glorious ds games again.

where's your cock iwata-sama? so i can suck it.

[Himu]

i forgot about steel diver. i wanna support nintendo making a new ip. I really do. But hauling ninja/samurai ass and collecting bananas takes precedent over a sub sim. The only thing this launch is missing for me, personally, is a great racing game and a great puzzle game. I dunno how ridge racer 3ds is, but it looks really fucking disappointing, especially in the graphics area, an area I always expect RR games to excel at.

[Himu]

I"m really really excited to be getting a new handheld system in a few weeks.

Next gen is here!

And by the end of the year the real beast will be unleashed.

This game looks SO FUN!

[youtube=560,345]ZePgSDmZIdU[/youtube]

[Himu]

Can you more into Ridge Racer? I'm expecting it to be regurgitated tracks that they've been doing since Ridge Racers but...anything new?

[iconoclast]

Ewwwww.... I did forgot about lumines.  Can't remember if I liked it or not.

LUMINES

Single-handedly justified my day one PSP purchase. Best puzzle game since Tetris.
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[Shaka Khan]

Lumines, Wipeout, and RR were all amazing AAA must have launch titles, so I agree with the notion that the PSP had one of the best (albeit thin on variety) lineups. Too bad the 2-year drought that followed was unbearable.

[Shaka Khan]

There were games, but most of them were sub-LOADINGLOADINGLOADING-par games or shoddy ports. I wish CFW was there day 1 to enhance the experience from the get go. Fall 2006, iirc, was the time when technically competent games and quality ports started trickling in.

Edit: Ok, I did a scan too and most of 2006's releases that I ended up buying were great. I guess 2005's drought felt like a life-time.

Edit: ugh, even 2005 had quality games. Why the hell am I letting the ninty-revisionists cloud my memory? I personally blame Emceegramr and his stupid friends.