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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #180 on: June 01, 2011, 01:40:36 AM »
so what exactly is bad about this thing? i played one in a best buy and thought it was pretty cool, and i hated the ds lite, HATED.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #181 on: June 01, 2011, 01:51:59 AM »
well it's basically the same old problems which have affected new consoles for generations. High price tag and lack of software.

I'm sure 3DS will be worth owning in a couple of years.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #182 on: June 01, 2011, 02:05:12 AM »
RE downgrade? Whut

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #183 on: June 01, 2011, 02:09:44 AM »
the RE: Mercenaries game thats coming out soon?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #184 on: June 01, 2011, 02:24:30 AM »
Am I to believe that the final version will be downgraded from the screenies we've seen before tho

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #185 on: June 01, 2011, 02:28:33 AM »
nah I think DC is just referring to the fact it's a ported down minigame from RE4/5
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #186 on: June 01, 2011, 02:36:03 AM »
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So why aren't people buying Nintendo's new system? As part of a survey conducted last month, Goo Research asked its monitors the reason they haven't bought the 3DS. It posted the results of the 1,110 person (39.5% male, 60.5% female) survey at Goo Ranking today.

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    * 1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop
    * 2. Satisfied by DS/DSi
    * 3. Worried about eye strain
    * 4. Worried about getting sick from the screen
    * 5. Few launch titles
    * 6. Will buy once a game I want is released
    * 7. Satisfied by cell phone and smartphone games
    * 8. Satisfied by PSP
    * 9. The battery is weak
    * 10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/01/goo_3ds_survey/
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #187 on: June 01, 2011, 02:51:32 AM »
This is what you get when you price your hardware based on the drooling reception from E3 fanthings

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #188 on: June 01, 2011, 02:56:27 AM »
cafe to cost $599 then
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« Reply #189 on: June 01, 2011, 03:02:36 AM »
bwhahahaha. Can't wait for E3. Gonna try and pull an all nighter to watch the shit
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #190 on: June 01, 2011, 03:53:40 AM »
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Sony is not ruling out the use of 3D technology for PlayStation small-screen devices such as NGP, the company has said.

Yet the firm told Develop that its current strategy for the PSP successor is to build a “pure gaming device”.

Mick Hocking, the director of Sony WorldWide Studios’ 3D team, told Develop that small-screen 3D technology is “rapidly improving”.

“The amount of new 3D mobile devices at this year’s CES show is evidence of that,” he said. “As small screen 3D improves we may be able to deliver these high quality 3D experiences on smaller screens."

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44548/Sony-hints-at-portable-3D

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updated 3DS poll,by andriasang

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    * 1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop
    * 2. Satisfied by DS/DSi
    * 3. Worried about eye strain
    * 4. Worried about getting sick from the screen
    * 5. Few launch titles
    * 6. Will buy once a game I want is released
    * 7. Satisfied by cell phone and smartphone games
    * 8. Satisfied by PSP
    * 9. The battery is weak
    * 10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me
    * 11. Can't play Game Boy Advance games
    * 12. The color I want isn't available
    * 13. Can't play Game Boy games
    * 14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much
    * 15. Waiting for a version with a larger screen
    * 16. Because you can't move your DSi Points over
    * 17. The buttons layout looks hard to use
    * 18. No Famicom/NES in the Virtual Console
    * 19. The zoom view for DS games is hard on the eyes
    * 20. Waiting until my friend buys it
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 04:07:47 AM by maxy »
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #191 on: June 01, 2011, 04:29:45 AM »
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13. Can't play Game Boy games
    * 14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much

More people care about GameBoy games than NGP
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #192 on: June 01, 2011, 04:52:21 AM »
ah
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #193 on: June 01, 2011, 05:11:21 AM »
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if Sony shoe horn an OPTIONAL 3D screen into the PSP2 then they have a real chance of burying the 3DS.

I don't find it likely for PS Vita launch,but for some future iteration definitely...good thing about 3D--it has to be optional

PS Vita 2000 3D :bow2

Nintendo kinda jumped the gun in this case,portable 3D is a very easy thing to copy--just release some model with 3D screen,done.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #194 on: June 01, 2011, 05:22:13 AM »
I can't imagine them pushing in a 3D screen if they're cutting back on RAM :(
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #195 on: June 01, 2011, 05:27:53 AM »
wow what a massive downgrade for RE. Those original shots were probably the only thing that got me excited about the 3DS hardware.

Let's be honest, the 3D was always gonna be a gimmick, and if that's indicative of the graphics quality of one of its best looking games then... no thanks. What reason is there in owning a 3DS over a PSP?

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #196 on: June 01, 2011, 05:28:06 AM »
ah
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i remember people picking resident evil as an example of THE AWESOME 3DS GRAPHIX!!1!

when will ever people learn to not trust bullshots? :(

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Nintendo kinda jumped the gun in this case,portable 3D is a very easy thing to copy--just release some model with 3D screen,done.

is it really that simple? don't game need to be done in 3D to begin with? i don't think they can just start to re-release games in 3D after a while....
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #197 on: June 01, 2011, 05:33:10 AM »
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is it really that simple? don't game need to be done in 3D to begin with? i don't think they can just start to re-release games in 3D after a while....

Yes,but they don't have to re-release.It would be just like any new PS360 3D game,if you have 3D TV you can play in 3D if not play in 2D.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #198 on: June 01, 2011, 05:53:59 AM »
i tought each game needed some 3d coding or something? like could you play uncharted in 3D now even if it was released well before all this 3d bullshit began?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #199 on: June 01, 2011, 06:21:08 AM »
I was thinking about new games.3D needs some extra coding but nothing complicated,if you have the grunt.

Lots of 3D TVs have 2D->3D transformation,not as good as native 3D but who cares.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #200 on: June 01, 2011, 06:22:30 AM »
i tought each game needed some 3d coding or something? like could you play uncharted in 3D now even if it was released well before all this 3d bullshit began?

I dunno about PS3, pretty sure they just release patches to optimise for 3D viewing, there still needs to be some sorta software running to enable 3D viewing but it doesn't require a game already modelled and renderred in a 3D engine to be optimised. For instance, there's lots of games on PC you can play with NVidia's 3d vision thingie that aren't optimised for 3D viewing but work because 3D is inherently there, though this usually results in things like nice 3d landscapes popping out at you accompanied by a boring flat skybox, so games still definitely benefit from optimisation. So yeah, usually a game would just require a small patch to enable 3D.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #202 on: June 01, 2011, 09:06:56 AM »
I remember calling the RE screens bullshots, :bow me :bow2
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #203 on: June 01, 2011, 12:44:56 PM »
DAT DOWNGRADE

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #204 on: June 01, 2011, 04:15:50 PM »
RE is downgraded? wut

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #205 on: June 01, 2011, 04:22:32 PM »
[youtube=560,345]#at=86[/youtube]

video doesn't look bad
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #206 on: June 01, 2011, 04:24:19 PM »
I don't care about Mercenaries though.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #207 on: June 02, 2011, 11:22:45 AM »
I can't believe it was even in your purchase list at some point IT'S A $40 MINIGAME!!!!
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #208 on: June 02, 2011, 09:39:12 PM »

 :lol :lol :lol :lol

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #209 on: June 02, 2011, 10:12:14 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #210 on: June 03, 2011, 02:46:42 AM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Doesnt look bad.


Meanwhile MGS on 3ds looks terrible.  Ironically it still looks better then the psp game:



So i assume that Team Kojima is getting worse over time.
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 02:53:51 AM by Damian79 »

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #211 on: June 03, 2011, 05:41:52 AM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #212 on: June 03, 2011, 05:49:12 AM »
You know how i said TeamKojima was losing their touch?  I just saw their "fox engine".   :o :o

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #213 on: June 03, 2011, 05:51:16 AM »
From Hachima's blog, from Stringfellow

(Image removed from quote.)

if i'm being VERY generous i could possibly say that it's just a contrast/tweaking thing but ... i'm not generous so i'm going with MASSIVE DOWNGRADE instead.



Hahahaha that's horrible.

Nintendo better drop that price to 129 to compete with the PSP1.

Same will happen with Project Cafe I'm sure.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #214 on: June 03, 2011, 06:04:50 AM »
posted this on konami thread,posting this here too

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #215 on: June 03, 2011, 06:05:08 AM »
Sony got one thing right with the NGP, they know that to compete against mobile phones they have to present added value to the customer in the form of big budget AAA titles and AAA graphics if they want to charge premium prices, I don't know if it will pay off, but they got the right idea.

Nintendo really doesn't get the market it seems.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #216 on: June 03, 2011, 06:09:09 AM »
Wow they must have splurged all the polygon budget on the faces of MGS peacewalker.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #217 on: June 03, 2011, 06:10:18 AM »
2 of these games are $40, one is $5.

Two companies got it right, one didn't.

Two are on handhelds that can only play games, one is on a phone.








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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #218 on: June 03, 2011, 06:13:29 AM »
I really wish that phones had d-pads and buttons.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #219 on: June 03, 2011, 06:15:10 AM »
bah,Nintendo portable audience is not on forums or cares about teh graphics

Market has changed for sure,but Nintendo portable audience should never be underestimated.

just saying
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #220 on: June 03, 2011, 06:23:38 AM »
Nintendo's audience is growing up with social networking, being online and mobile phones.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #221 on: June 03, 2011, 06:36:45 AM »
Well to be fair, MGS3 is 10 times better than both games. I'd gladly drop $40 if it wasn't for the HD collection.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #222 on: June 03, 2011, 06:44:21 AM »
Yeah but you're hardcore.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #223 on: June 03, 2011, 07:52:44 AM »
I just grabbed a few screens.

How big is the 3DS screen?

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #224 on: June 03, 2011, 08:02:21 AM »
Oh wow...RE 3DS looks very bad.

I can't believe I hyped this POS of a handheld.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #225 on: June 03, 2011, 08:04:18 AM »
the Uncharted NGP pic Premium Lager posted was cropped, they're actually quite large


http://i.imgur.com/g3mgl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/edcQv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kVWjr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ie9v3.jpg

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #226 on: June 03, 2011, 08:05:27 AM »
Kind of bullshots at that resolution though.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #227 on: June 03, 2011, 08:41:53 AM »
posted this on konami thread,posting this here too

(Image removed from quote.)

Let's be fair here...that's a bullshot Peacewalker image.  The game is extremely grainy.

From Hachima's blog, from Stringfellow

(Image removed from quote.)

if i'm being VERY generous i could possibly say that it's just a contrast/tweaking thing but ... i'm not generous so i'm going with MASSIVE DOWNGRADE instead.



Hahahaha that's horrible.

Nintendo better drop that price to 129 to compete with the PSP1.

Same will happen with Project Cafe I'm sure.

I'm going with shitty stream screencaps on this one, sorry.  We've already seen videos of that demo in action...it looks great.  Both RE titles and that upcoming Labrynth game seem to be the showcase titles for the 3DS. 

But if Capcom can get RE looking that great on 3DS, it's only gonna get much better on the new PSP.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #228 on: June 03, 2011, 09:30:45 AM »
That screen is 800x480.  The 3DS's screen is 400x240.  So I guess it should look like this:

(Image removed from quote.)

As I expected, it still looks like shit, but at least we're kicking the 3DS in the spleen *fairly* now.

Looks much better tbh. NGP res should have been slightly higher imho, like the new HTC Sensation phone.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #229 on: June 05, 2011, 11:17:52 PM »
I really wish that phones had d-pads and buttons.

Just need to wait for apple to offer an Iphone/Itouch/Ipad with Haptic technology built in.  This is what I'm waiting for before I upgrade my 3G touch.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #230 on: June 05, 2011, 11:19:42 PM »
Will it be too soon to declare the 3DS dead after e3?
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #231 on: June 05, 2011, 11:26:57 PM »
dead sales or software wise?

it has a new Mario by the people who made Galaxy.  That's A game to play.

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #232 on: June 05, 2011, 11:28:47 PM »
whoops wrong thread.
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« Reply #233 on: June 06, 2011, 04:41:27 AM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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« Reply #234 on: June 06, 2011, 05:23:14 AM »
you know,when i say it,it sounds like i'm being a creepy japanophile but i never understood those guys making joke like that

i mean they are anime character,they have no age! this remind me a whole fallacy with an atelier game where the japanese site dictated the main character was 15 but the american one said 18 to avoid any dissense

and they could do that because as i said anime character have no age other than whatever numbers between 15 and 20 (or 200 if they decide so) the creator decide to slap to them

and of course it's stupid that there are tits and ass flying everywhere,but comic creator do the same and nobody ever complains,i call a double standard!
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #235 on: June 06, 2011, 05:35:07 AM »
oh i understand that but reading all of the "oh japan..." comment on neogaf sometimes it seems i'm the only one i understand that >:(

of course when later on they ban dead or alive then everybody gets to rage on and stops being "oh japan...." :smug
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #236 on: June 06, 2011, 07:18:02 AM »
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UK sales April, 2011 (famitsu)

Top 10
01 [WII] Zumba Fitness  92,000 / 144,000
02 [360] Portal 2  62,000
03 [PS3] Mortal Kombat  48,000
04 [360] Mortal Kombat  44,000
05 [PS3] Portal 2  39,000
06 [360] Crysis 2  36,000 / 118,000
07 [NDS] Pokemon Black Version  36,000 / 168,000
08 [NDS] Pokemon White Version  36,000 / 188,000
09 [WII] Wii Fit Plus  34,000
10 [WII] Just Dance 2  30,000 / 1,106,000

Total sales April 2011 <- April 2010
Units 3,018,630 <- 3,203,139 (-5.8%)
Value(£) 69,5M <- 68,1M (+1.8%)


Unit Sales by Publisher
01 (01) Electronic Arts 21.4% (645k)
02 (02) Nintendo 10.5% (317k)
03 (03) Ubisoft 8.3% (250k)
04 (05) Activision 6.2% (187k)
05 (04) THQ 5.7% (172k)
06 (17) Warner Bros. 5.5% (166k)
07 (14) 505 Games 4.2% (127k)
08 (08) Take-Two 4.0% (121k)
09 (06) Sega 3.7% (112k)
10 (07) Sony 3.7% (112k)
_ (_) Others 26.8% (808k)


Unit Sales by platform
01 (01) 360 30.6% (923k)
02 (03) PS3 22.6% (682k)
03 (04) Wii 16.5% (498k)
04 (02) NDS 15.2% (458k)
05 (05) PC  10.5% (317k)
06 (07) PSP  2.3% (69k)
07 (06) 3DS  2.3% (69k)

08 (08) PS2  0.1% (3k)

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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #237 on: June 06, 2011, 09:32:43 AM »
Annihilated in the UK :o
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #238 on: June 06, 2011, 09:46:13 AM »
WAIT 'TIL SPACEWORLD

They better announce a ton of shit for the 3DS and get it out there quick because I don't know why anyone would rush out there to buy a $250 paper weight for another version of Ocarina.  The 3DS isn't looking so hot.
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Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
« Reply #239 on: June 06, 2011, 10:05:30 AM »
It never did.
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