3DS Discussion Thread

[maxy]

I was bored,copy-paste from vgcharts

Somebody nice used Nintendo,Sony,MS gaming division profits data and made this lovely chart,last two bars are one quarter short



Quite interesting,especially Nintendo data

Nintendo always wins

[Great Rumbler]

Nintendo's back to pre-Wii profits, it seems, which is still nearly as much as any of the others have made during a fiscal year.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

If the key feature to your device has to get turned down or off to be considered usable (or hold it in some contorted fashion), then your device is probably in big trouble.

Fortunately for Nintendo, they have some solid IPs that they can tap into.  I don't see it being anywhere near the size of the DS but it will still do nicely.  It might light a fire under Nintendo's ass to put out better titles in a hurry, rather than half assing decade-and-a-half old ports of N64 games.

[Beezy]

I forgot that this thing existed...

[Sho Nuff]

What's a 3DS

[Eel O'Brian]

so did everyone else, evidently

[maxy]

What's a 3DS

expensive DS with 3D screen

[MCD]

Did they announce 3DS Lite yet?

[iconoclast]

Does it have more tables than the 360/PS3 version? It better have Medieval Madness and Arabian Nights at least.

[Bebpo]

killer app coming in june

sure it's just a 3D remake but you'd have to be mad to not one to take another spin with a gaming classic

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williams pinball collection 3d

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Whatever happened to their XBLA HD upgrade of Gottlieb Collection?  When they announced it in November/December they were shooting for a January release...

[pilonv1]

still waiting for Williams Collection for xdude in PAL :'(

[Corporal]

"We originally expected that the value of 3D images without the need for special glasses would be automatically spread to some extent by many consumers experiencing the device by themselves and ... together with people around them," he said.

That's a bit rich since the tiny sweet spot prevents others from "experiencing the device" together with the person that's playing it. Did he not play the damn thing himself?  

Anyway, Gottlieb & Williams Pinball sims are awesome. In 3D? Fuck yes. On 3DS? Fuck no.  

[Corporal]

Yeowch, that's quite a nosedive. Then again, the Japanese have plenty of other troubles at the moment. I wish the US/EU numbers were similarly detailed. 

You can sit there crying in your coffee about the system it's on, the rest of us are going to be racking up scores that make your testicles look even smaller than they are.

What, all four of you?

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four million. 

Still feels worse than the DS launch. I guess in a year or two this thing might actually be worthwhile, but right now? Waste of perfectly good money. I pity anyone with a 3DS right now.

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[Shaka Khan]

People just assumed after the crazy launch of the Wii that Nintendo would be able to replicate that phenomenon. Anything less than that would be deemed by most a "disappointment."

Or something something Apple portables' level of successful launches.

[Corporal]

Poor Sega was really caught between a rock and a hard place back then. Expensive hardware with a last-minute design revision to add some 3D capabilities, oldskool close to the metal programming paradigm, and that panicked stealth launch didn't help at all. Shame I wasn't following gaming back in the days as closely as I am now. "Two hundred and ninety-nine US dollars". That must've been awesome. Oh to sit in that presentation and feel history change forever.

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...come to think of it, 3DS had the 3D capabilities tacked on rather late in the design process, IIRC. And it is rather pricey. I bet their APIs aren't really up to snuff either. History repeats itself! zOMG NINTENDO DOOMED.  


But seriously, from my perspective the 3DS had a worse launch than the DS. I happen to love Polarium, Project Rub, and Super Mario 64 had all these neat multiplayer games. DS Euro-launch was OK in my book. 3DS now has officially one single announced game that ranks on the same level of interest for me, personally. Sure, there's probably a bunch of Meteos-like stealth titles I'm not seeing but fuck that.

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Edit ah whatever. Doesn't belong here, and it's not like this hasn't been said before by others. So, has the 3DS firmware been updated already? I think I remember they didn't release the thing with a functional shop? If yes, how's the selection/interface?

[cool breeze]

launches usually just need one big game from first parties, or a bunch of original and solid games to make up for it.

3ds, like the ps3, had neither.  actually worse, since Resistance had its charms.  and while 3ds had better third party games, none of them were original

[Shaka Khan]

oh saleswise they shit the bed here.  i'm just talking about software.

Oh, I thought it was a solid launch software-wise regardless of what others are saying; I rarely attempt to decide between 5 (some argue 7) decent games and end up buying three on day 1. It just needed that killer must-have game to be perfect, as I don't think SSF4 fits that bill.

[maxy]

Steel Diver bomba,not in top 40,only in 3DS chart
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=310019



Little bit late,3DS launch month(one week for 3DS),not much too see though.

UK Top 10 March 2011

01-[NDS] Pokemon White Version (Nintendo) 154.000
02-[NDS] Pokemon Black Version (Nintendo) 132.000
03-[360] Homefront (THQ) 116.000
04-[360] Crysis 2 (Electronic Arts) 82.000
05-[WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft) 71.000 / 1.076.000
06-[360] Dragon Age 2 (Electronic Arts) 64.000
07-[360] Fight Night Champion (Electronic Arts) 63.000
08-[PS3] Killzone 3 (Sony) 58.000 / 115.000
09-[PS3] Fight Night Champion (Electronic Arts) 55.000
10-[WII] Zumba Fitness (505 Games) 52.000

[Shaka Khan]

There should be a social study using B&W's sales parity.

[The Sceneman]

indeed.  doesn't change the fact that launches are almost always shit and particularly with portables you're wasting your money jumping in during launch period.

of course the men in black show up with their flashy memory thingies after every launch period finishes so that gamers can whine anew the very next time about how the latest launch is shit and the worst launch ever.

hmm, I'd be interested to hear what the worst console launch line-up ever was? (in people's opinions).

360 launch was pretty bad...

[Himu]

kameo is awful. does it have easy cheevs though?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i regret my 3ds so much

[Akala]

Trevor McFur

[iconoclast]

360 launch was pretty bad...

WTF, the 360 had a great launch line up.

Condemned
Geometry Wars
Gun
Ridge Racer 6
Kameo
NFS Most Wanted (the best NFS game)
Call of Duty 2

and in Japan
Tetris The Grandmaster ACE (the best Tetris game)

[Sho Nuff]

I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

[maxy]

At this point getting drunk and knocking down trash containers might prove somewhat useful.

[bork]

360 launch was pretty bad...

WTF, the 360 had a great launch line up.

Condemned
Geometry Wars
Gun
Ridge Racer 6
Kameo
NFS Most Wanted (the best NFS game)
Call of Duty 2

and in Japan
Tetris The Grandmaster ACE (the best Tetris game)

...So what you're saying is that the 360 had a pretty bad launch line-up.   

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

I'm thinking of picking up a used Japanese one while they're cheap.  Even with the "slow" sales this 17,000 yen price isn't going to hold for too long, I think.

That would be super tempting except ... region locking

[Shuri]

still havent seen a single 3ds in the wild! Anecdotal, but still weird.

[T-Short]

launch aligned with PS3 (JP)



hehe

[tiesto]

Trevor McFur and Cybermorph?  Oscar is trippin' if he thinks that's bad.

Atari is back... come pet the cat!

[bork]

still havent seen a single 3ds in the wild! Anecdotal, but still weird.

Same.  I don't generally leave it in sleep mode, but the few times I have and have brought the system with me, I never got anything in Street Pass.  Nobody where I live has a 3DS, it seems.

[Sho Nuff]

I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

I'm thinking of picking up a used Japanese one while they're cheap.  Even with the "slow" sales this 17,000 yen price isn't going to hold for too long, I think.

That would be super tempting except ... region locking

This

Why would you region lock a handheld
WHY WOULD YOU REGION LOCK A HANDHELD

[bork]

I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

I'm thinking of picking up a used Japanese one while they're cheap.  Even with the "slow" sales this 17,000 yen price isn't going to hold for too long, I think.

That would be super tempting except ... region locking

This

Why would you region lock a handheld
WHY WOULD YOU REGION LOCK A HANDHELD

[Corporal]

Apparently Nintendos TOS allow them to brick 3DS if they're used in a way Nintendo deems inappropriate.
Awesome.

DRM haters then proceed to mail them bricks.
Eh.

I got nothing.

[magus]

corporal - nobody got their ds bricked,it's a rumor spread by moralfags to scare people into not playing super mario bros on their DS with a proper emulator and instead pay 5$ to momma nintendo

one of the reason the rumor got spread is because they changed "illegal modification can render your console unplayable" to "illegal modification will render your console unplayable"

[Trent Dole]

They've bricked Wiis via updates so this threat isn't a new thing really.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now

[pilonv1]

If only there were 12 other platforms to play FIFA on

[Damian79]

They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now

Time Crisis, Mega Man Legends 3, SMT game(also an SMT persona game but who gives a shit abotu persona games anyway?) and Ace Combat is also in the works for the thing.  FOr soemthing that is dying it sure is getting too much support.

[naff]

They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now

Time Crisis, Mega Man Legends 3, SMT game(also an SMT persona game but who gives a shit abotu persona games anyway?) and Ace Combat

TC , MM:L looks like a sub ps1 era game - pass, Isn't the SMT game being developed for DS then going to 3DS and Ace Combat iOS probably will be better and have more content than 3DS version not to mention be ~1/8th the price

[naff]

ok bad troll, MM:L does look pretty awesome, and Damian isn't talking about Devil Survivor overclocked or whatever that they're porting to 3DS then?

[Damian79]

Nah there are apparently 3 SMT games for the 3ds, SMT, SMT: persona, and SMT:DS:O.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now

did you play the other mobile versions of Fifa ?

no but Pro Evo Soccer is pretty dam good and looks better than the wii version some how. FIFA 11 PSP was decent but I trust EA...hopefully  :'(

[cool breeze]

[youtube=560,345]yjenpZfljKY[/youtube]

3DS

(I probably won't buy it because I have it on PSP and this is a remake with changed visuals, but if there is new content, I'll reconsider.)

[Himu]

what's with the redesign?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

no but Pro Evo Soccer is pretty dam good and looks better than the wii version some how

the 3DS version of Pro Evo is extremely disappointing - how can you be so harsh on everything yet let this huge turd sail on by ?

Too waifer thin, plays a passable game of football but the difficulties are nerfed so that it's reasonable to play in the 3D default mode, the Masters LEague is back to being an unadultared watered down bucket of shit, and -oh great- offside bugs are back :/

I have never been a Pro Evo fan so I just take it as it is. It is pretty feature thin and no online blows, but that's where i'm hoping FIFA comes in to fix it.

I pretty much made Pro Evo on DS play like FIFA though, I use the side camera and rejiggered the controls to be like the 360.

god i hope FIFA is good

[MyNameIsMethodis]

on 3DS*

[Shaka Khan]

I'm not sure how I feel about the art direction, but at least it's much, much better than the original's. I wonder whether the change was decided based on feedback, or because they thought it would suit the new audience better

[Shaka Khan]

Yeah, I said that elsewhere, but I don't how they're planning to fit this new style into the original's depressing "journey through a human's psyche" story line, unless they plan on scrapping it altogether. If they decide to stick with it by somehow twisting in it into a more colorful interpretation, I'm sure it'll insult some of those who played the original.

But srsly, stories in my games? ELOHEL WHO CARES. amirite or amirite?

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I liked it :'(

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[Himu]

Crush's story was an excellent addition to an already great puzzle game. It only serviced to help make the game even greater.

[pilonv1]

So another "new" game for 3DS?

[iconoclast]

Seems that way.  At least to this game's credit, under 50,000 people in the entire universe have played it.

I think you are forgetting the people who shop at the PSP's most popular store.

[pilonv1]

pirate bay?

[chronovore]

Oh, snap.

But seriously, is piracy THAT rampant on PSP? As an total percentage of the consoles sold?

[magus]

remember kids,project cafe will have awesome online hardcore capability and all the third parties por... err i mean games of the world

nintendo

[Shaka Khan]

There was a time when the DS was pulling launch-numbers on a weekly basis in Japan. It still amazes me to this day, no matter how many times I check old sales numbers. Even though the PSP is doing well in Japan right now, selling almost twice as much DSes on a semi-consistent basis, it's still 15 million units behind.

32 million units in Japan, people. Absolutely BONKERS!

[magus]

Remember, Borys, nothing Nintendo does makes Nintendo weep.  It only makes nintendo fans weep.

fixed!

[Himu]

Crush is my favorite psp game. That said, I'm not sure if I'll get the remake because it doesn't really look like Crush and I already own the damn game. We'll see.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nintendo will always be successful because they almost always sell their hardware at cost or for a profit.  That and there are always several million people that will always be around to get the next Mario, Mario Kart, Pokeymans, and Zelda.  Sony and Microsoft prefer selling consoles at a steep loss at launch, hoping software sales, accessories, online gaming, etc. will cover the losses.  This only works with Microsoft and Sony because they have such a large amount of assets that they can absorb a massive blow.  The PS3 lost over $5 billion and Sony still continued.  This strategy was proven to be disastrous for gaming only companies, like Sega.  It's rational that Nintendo sell their shit at break even prices at the worst.

Which is why Project Cafe will probably be $299 minimum with those tablet-controllers going for at least $89, if not $99 a pop.