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« Reply #900 on: May 18, 2011, 03:23:42 PM »
I'm grabbing wipeout and LBP :hyper
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« Reply #901 on: May 18, 2011, 05:06:47 PM »
The PS3 is an IRL "The Homer".

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That is an apt description
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« Reply #902 on: May 18, 2011, 05:09:57 PM »
WAIT. :maf So I have to turn on my ps3 to change my email?! >:(
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« Reply #903 on: May 18, 2011, 05:23:08 PM »
damn - i predicted there would be an issue within 48 of being up too.

Sony are fucking hopeless. This is getting worse and worse.

Methodis, when was the last time XBL had this sort of combination of multiple issues? I'm sure you've seen it even if no one else has so i was just wondering what your big dictionary of XBL failures has to say?


RROD is still way worse
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« Reply #904 on: May 18, 2011, 05:49:21 PM »
RROD was at the very least something that Microsoft could fix for you, even replace for you.  Sony hasn't been able to fix this, OR replace it.
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« Reply #905 on: May 18, 2011, 06:46:06 PM »
oh lawd :lol
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« Reply #906 on: May 18, 2011, 10:19:39 PM »
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« Reply #907 on: May 18, 2011, 10:42:09 PM »
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I bet you wish it was called PNS.

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« Reply #908 on: May 18, 2011, 11:33:31 PM »
The Hackers killed Sony. Pretty scary how acting like a bully to some hackers led to the destruction of a multi-billion dollar company in a matter of months. Sony were fucking idiots, but now their brand is completely dead.  Whoops.

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« Reply #909 on: May 18, 2011, 11:38:49 PM »
So what happened now?  It's hard to keep track of this stuff.

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« Reply #910 on: May 18, 2011, 11:40:53 PM »
So what happened now?  It's hard to keep track of this stuff.

Sell your PS3 and PSP, it's all over, etc. etc.  Hire a good lawyer and go after Sony-- I'm getting Bebpo Law™ representation.
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« Reply #911 on: May 19, 2011, 01:11:54 AM »
33 people laid off at Zipper Interactive today. I wonder why.

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« Reply #912 on: May 19, 2011, 01:23:22 AM »
Pure coincidence

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« Reply #913 on: May 19, 2011, 01:26:45 AM »
Look, this is the way I see it all having gone down.  Yes I make some assumptions, most which are the most logical ones to make and yeah I'm a bit biased towards Sony occasionally because I think Krazy Ken was a forward-thinking genius business man.  But whatever, this is what I think happened:

PSP and PS3 came around.  Sony said we're going to be THE GOOD GUYS and give highly open systems that allow users to do tons of things like play mp3s/movie files/look at photos/run an entire operating system/play games from all regions/have a million options like a mini-PC.  

Then PSP got hacked and it got REALLY hacked.  CFW was so easy to get on and why buy games when you could download them screamed the public.  PSP went from being the first real challenger to Nintendo to the biggest Disaster ever for Sony in the western territories.  In Japan they were lucky able to turn it around with Square Enix AAA games and Monster Hunter releasing with new revisions that couldn't use CFW.  But in the west, the death of the PSP software, which lead to the death of devs MAKING PSP software, which lead to the death of PSP sales, that not only completely fucked the PSP system as a successful hardware device, but even worse has made NGP into a huge gamble because it may just be impossible for them to sell it in the west anymore after the disaster that was the PSP; yes...it was bad.  A billion upon billion dollar business plan spanning more than a decade, all a complete failure outside of Japan.  All because it got pirated too easily.

Now here comes PS3.  It's already struggling due to $599, stupid RSX leading to inferior ports, inferior online, no cheevs early on, strong Xbox brand.  But hey, eventually Sony starts seeing a glimmer of Hope as the PS3 sloooowly but surely starts doing almost ok.  It's no Wii or X360, but it's looking like it may turn out profitable and not be a total failure but just not a huge success.  It might do ...alright.  

Then PS3 gets hacked.  Sure it's just a smaller "hello world" but once you get into the system, Sony knew it'd only be a matter of time until the pirates got full control and could play bootleg games.  If this happened and was easy for people to do and word got out to the public that they could download games like the PSP instead of buying them...well Sony knew there was a possibility the PS3 would go down the same road as the PSP did in the west and the thought of the PS3 dying horribly over a few years as ANOTHER major business failure scared the shit out of Sony.  If PSP flopped in the west and PS3 flopped in the west and both possibly damning their successors, then they were on the path out of business because as Japanese sales become less and less relevant, you can't have your entire game company hedge on Japan and be doomed everywhere else.  

So yeah, they were going to do every thing possibly to prevent pirated games on the PS3.  They didn't care if they fucked over legitimate buyers, fucked over the legal system, fucked over hackers, fucked over everyone in the world.  It was death or success with limited causalities.  There was no middle ground.  They did not want to go out of business and be forced to leave the game industry.  So they removed Linux, patched like crazy, lied and sued and lied and who knows if they even thought that "hey, this might piss some people off enough to do something back at us".  They were probably too focused on "STOP THE PIRATED GAMES BY SCARE TACTICS".

And then they got blindsided and bit hard.  Made a fool of in front of the entire world, lost billions of revenue, got every publisher and consumer to hate them.  They tried to get out of it through vagueness/lies/apologies like certain government entities, but it just made people even more made and created a bullseye on their company to continually keep fucking them over as hard and fast as possibly until they die and go out of business because then all these people will say "Sony got what was coming to them".

Thus in the end Sony will get what is coming to them as they're going to be targets of hackers like the PSP was for years to come because of this debacle.  Whether they can recover in the public trust through continuous flops that are broadcast around the world, who knows.  I can't see this doing anything but hurting PS3 sales/NGP sales/PS4 sales for the future to come.  Honestly, Sony is at fault here because they chose to be the bulldog and play dirty; but I can sympathize with the situation they were in after the PSP disaster and not knowing any other way than to brute force attempt to prevent a fully hacked pirated system.  They were in a rock and a hard place and either way they were doomed.

It'll be interesting to see what happens financially to them in the long-term.  They don't have the money reserves that Nintendo or MS has to go decades of disasters.  Either this will all blow over and they find some successes, or they're going to have to file bankruptcy at some point and bow out of the game industry.

If there's a lesson to be learned from all this it's that sometimes bad luck will bite you in the ass and you won't even know it until years later.

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« Reply #914 on: May 19, 2011, 01:42:32 AM »
To be fair, I never found Kagari to be a bad poster.  A bad mod by doing fangirl stuff like locking anti-Sony threads and warping thread titles to be pro-Sony...sure.  But her posts were fine even if she likes Sony games like EBers like X360 games.

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« Reply #915 on: May 19, 2011, 01:51:12 AM »
Bebpo, who did you c&p that essay from? 

Yeah, Sony's ineptitude is not even surprising anymore.  I haven't even bothered to upgrade my firmware since 3.54.  Right not it's not even connected to my wireless network and probably never will be again.  Obviously, I will never give them any of my CC info again and I doubt there'll ever be any PSN content that will make me go through the hassle of buying PT cards. 

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« Reply #916 on: May 19, 2011, 02:00:07 AM »
Bebpo, who did you c&p that essay from? 

Yeah, Sony's ineptitude is not even surprising anymore.  I haven't even bothered to upgrade my firmware since 3.54.  Right not it's not even connected to my wireless network and probably never will be again.  Obviously, I will never give them any of my CC info again and I doubt there'll ever be any PSN content that will make me go through the hassle of buying PT cards. 

I don't think it's that bad of ineptitude really.  I'm with the viewpoint that the same thing would be happening to Steam/XBLA/Apple if they created the biggest vendetta ever with the hacking community.  Everything released so far has said that Sony's security was up to industry standards and probably the same as all these other companies.  They just had the biggest target on their back because they picked a stupid fight that they knew they couldn't win but wanted to make life miserable for geohot anyway.  

Look I dislike current Sony of the last few years as much as the rest of this forum.  The HUGE sony fanbase on gaf is scary as fuck and unreadable trash.  I'll never give Sony my CC card or personal info again and I'm very much less likely to buy Sony products if they continue being dumb smucks.  But at least I can see it from their PoV and why they did all this.  The PSP situation = Dreamcast situation and look at what happened to Sega after that one.  Sony could NOT let both the PSP and PS3 end up like the DC.  They had no choice but to pull some crazy cornered psycho shit in hope of a miracle.

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« Reply #917 on: May 19, 2011, 02:10:03 AM »
But DC was a GREAT system with everything right.  Lots of Western/Eastern support, online play, affordable, good design.  I think the piracy really really hurt it.

Well, to make a serious reply, I think too many people take the neat and clean route of blaming the PSP's failure on piracy.  It certainly didn't help, but every system has to deal with piracy, and while the PSP was pretty damn easy to crack, so was the DS.  Hell, so was the PS1 and PS2.  There's more to it than that, and if Sony truly have their heads in the sand on the issue, it's pretty easy to see why history is set to repeat itself with the NGP.

This is simplifying it a whole ton but:
Dreamcast = easy pirating without need for any additional hardware; just download and play boots = system dies
PSP = easy pirating without need for any additional hardware; just download and play boots = system dies
PC = easy pirating without need for any additional hardware; just download and play boots = big budget software market dies for an entire decade as it moves to consoles and the indie scene and euro scene slowly rebuild it once again

It just seems like if you can bootleg games without having to get your system chipped or buy a flashcart or make any additional effort besides downloading a hack and some games, too many people do it and it kills the game sales economy which eventually kills the platform.

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« Reply #918 on: May 19, 2011, 02:16:40 AM »
I don't think it's that bad of ineptitude really.  I'm with the viewpoint that the same thing would be happening to Steam/XBLA/Apple if they created the biggest vendetta ever with the hacking community.  Everything released so far has said that Sony's security was up to industry standards and probably the same as all these other companies.  They just had the biggest target on their back because they picked a stupid fight that they knew they couldn't win but wanted to make life miserable for geohot anyway.  

This is more or less the truth as far as I'm aware, no doubt their security had flaws hence the hacking, but I believe the reason it was blown wide open and made available to commercial hackers was their propensity for pissing people off. At least it's my take on the situation also. Sony did an amazing job at pissing off the nerdlingers, and today they reap what they have sewn.

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« Reply #919 on: May 19, 2011, 02:21:55 AM »
Maybe so but now that Sony know that they're in big trouble with the hackers, shouldn't they try to go beyond industry standards and make their network as unpentrable as technology allows? 

How bad does it look to the public when Sony finally brings PSN back up only for it to be hacked again in less than 24 hrs? 

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« Reply #920 on: May 19, 2011, 02:23:51 AM »
I don't have all the answers or even all the information to really prove one theory over another.  No one does except Sony and Sony is going to take those answers and facts to their grave.  The lack of information actually hurts them MORE because they can't disprove even the harshest FUD thrown against them and hiding secrets always makes you look guilty and bad.  Basically Sony's business policies are terrible and every decision they make to benefit them hurts them instead.

Maybe so but now that Sony know that they're in big trouble with the hackers, shouldn't they try to go beyond industry standards and make their network as unpentrable as technology allows? 

Easier said than done.  Especially when under the rush time table of millions of people and hundreds of publishers.  Honestly how long do you think it took to create XBL or PSN in the first place?  Probably years, right?  Now they need to rebuild it all in a month...yeah; good luck with that.  I don't expect the new PSN to be any more secure than the old one.  So personal info is staying off.
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« Reply #921 on: May 19, 2011, 02:29:02 AM »
Evidently PSN was built/based in Japan

If you have ever worked in Japan you will know why the concept of "Japanese IT security" is a hilarious one

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« Reply #922 on: May 19, 2011, 02:30:49 AM »
well just the concept of online and Japan don't really seem to work together.

see: FFXIV

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« Reply #923 on: May 19, 2011, 02:32:16 AM »
You know what's really sad?  Trolling sfag nation used to be one of my favorite joys on the internet.  Now I can't do it anymore because it's like making fun of the mentally handicapped.  :fbm

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« Reply #924 on: May 19, 2011, 02:57:22 AM »
I dunno, I just thought kutaragi had great ideas, wanted to push the medium forward and had lots of integrity.  Otoh, Kaz has seemed like a sleezeball since the moment he was head of SCEA and Stringer seems like he has no idea how to run a videogame company.  Combined they make very, very bad management which has caused Sony nothing but downhill.  Even with the $599 screw up, if Kutaragi was still in charge I think he would've been able to convert that into a successful great system over time.  He was smart enough that he could have done things besides CUT OUT BC to lower the price and add features that made the PS3 more tempting.

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« Reply #925 on: May 19, 2011, 03:20:04 AM »
What I never got about Krazy Ken is why he always had to make things harder than it had to be.  Sony already had a deal with Nvidia.  All they had do was upgrade to a 8800 GTX, slap on some generic power PC and the PS3 would really have made the 360 look last gen.  Instead, he spent all that money on some hard to program CPU that ended up being used as a very inefficient GPU to help with the budget GPU. 

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« Reply #926 on: May 19, 2011, 03:32:03 AM »
I think with Cell he was thinking beyond just "PS3 graphics" and rather what Cell could do for the PS3/PS4/Sony TVs/Laptops/PCs, what it could do for other appliances throughout the world.  He wanted it to be a technological advancement of society where you would just add more cell cpus to the product to achieve what you wanted. 

But yeah, it doesn't work that well for graphics processing.

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« Reply #927 on: May 19, 2011, 03:37:08 AM »
shouldn't they try to go beyond industry standards and make their network as unpentrable as technology allows? 

Yea, everyone should do this if they've got a service as widely used as PSN as far as I'm concerned, but Sony are particularly on the back foot here. With MS being the biggest software developer in the world and Sony being a relative lightweight in size, output and experience they're always going to be stretching resources to their limit. There are/were opportunities for Sony to leverage existing software and more experienced third parties for their OS, like when Sony released the PS3 with the OtherOS support I was so surprised (I was a *nix system nerd) and went out and bought a launch model for fucking $1200 and I paid for a premium membership with YDL* and still I thought it was a good deal :lol I thought it was a sign of things to come, and I did not anticipate Sony backstepping on so much. Looking at where PS3 is now, if I knew this 5 years ago I would've been really, really surprised. I honestly thought and hoped MS would fuck it up.

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« Reply #928 on: May 19, 2011, 09:47:37 AM »
Evidently PSN was built/based in Japan

If you have ever worked in Japan you will know why the concept of "Japanese IT security" is a hilarious one

Unrelated, but at one of the schools I worked at, they actually had an "IT" guy.  Just for this tiny junior high school, lol.  Anyway one day I came into work and was told that some computers "suddenly didn't have internet access."  This was only happening on the computer I was given to use; I guess they didn't want me browsing sites and didn't want to straight-up tell me this. 

So I went and checked the wireless settings, and found that the wireless card had been disabled.  I got right back on the Internet and was checking some website when the same teacher who said it didn't work walked past and got wide-eyed when she saw that I was looking at a webpage.  "HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!?!"  She goes.  "Oh, I just checked the settings and found that somebody had turned off the wireless on this computer," I responded.  She went over to the IT dude and whispered something to him.  His eyes got wide too and then he turned back around and went back to...doing nothing at his desk.

They never bothered me about it again.  That guy also got canned several months later, lol.
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« Reply #929 on: May 19, 2011, 10:10:10 AM »
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« Reply #931 on: May 19, 2011, 12:52:33 PM »
Yeah and I think they fixed it.

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« Reply #932 on: May 19, 2011, 01:20:20 PM »
i should probably pull the trigger on getting a 360 again

my ability to game and shop online is presently tied to sony being able to legally prove their competence

not a good wager

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« Reply #933 on: May 19, 2011, 01:46:38 PM »
Is Duckroll done with Sony?

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« Reply #934 on: May 19, 2011, 05:48:27 PM »
The Dreamcast never had a chance.  It did the best it could with the scant resources Sega had to throw at it.  I was a huge cigarillo for the Dreamcast though and remembered seeing the initial strong sales of their first six months or so thinking that Sega could possibly pull out a success, or at the very least last until the Xbox and Gamecube came out.  I loved how after the cancellation, retailers had fire sales on their games.  I was able to buy Power Stone 2 and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 for maybe $5 each at a local Target.  A shame I didn't keep them, considering how much a new copy of those games go for these days.

Back to Sony, I'm going to be a total hater and hope that Sony will have serious issues with hacking and compromised personal data over the next few months.  They deserve to be raked over the coals for such a huge fuckup, especially when people's credit is on the line (which is pretty valuable if you want to do almost anything these days).  I don't think they should just squeak by by only giving out a couple of free games either.  This humiliation needs to be long and drawn out, making them (and anyone else with shit security) think long and hard about handling the personal information of their customers.  I know Sfags on the rag will be crying "hasn't sony suffered enough?"  Well, honestly no.  Although we'll see what light taps on the wrist governments will administer.  Props to Japan for having the balls to make Sony accountable before relaunching their broken and shitty service.
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« Reply #935 on: May 19, 2011, 06:28:21 PM »
why do they deserve humilation if there has still yet to be a confirmed cause of credit card fraud due to Sony PSN getting hacked? your post reads like some giant aspergers suffering distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who takes things way too seriously and doesn't actually pay attention to anything. It's like you want nothing but Microsoft Xbox to be around, even though as of right now RRoD is still way worse and they where down just as long if not al ittle shorter than Sony.


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« Reply #936 on: May 19, 2011, 06:43:48 PM »
I worked at a game store at the time, and saw the rise and fall of the Dreamcast.  It wasn't like piracy was the only thing killing it-- in fact we saw WAY more piracy going on with the PS1 and later the PS2 in comparison, and that didn't stop the sales of those systems and software.  A lot of it was hype for the consoles yet to come.  People were shitting themselves with excitement over the Playstation 2, to the point that Dreamcasts started coming in used in full-force even before the system came out.  Sega not getting the support of companies like EA and Square was also a huge, huge blow.  People NEEDED THEY MADDENS, and nerds needed that Final Fantasy.  I never saw anything like what happened to the DC again -and people were not in a mad rush to ditch their 32-bit systems before the DC was released-  It was the new big thing, and was quickly tossed aside for the next set of systems that followed it.

On a sidenote, piracy did kill the hell out of our import game sales.  We were the only store in the state (AFAIK) who dealt in imports; they were a huge part of our business, and when piracy became a simple thing to do on the PS1/PS2/DC, the writing was on the wall.

Euch, all the region bullshit of owning a 360 here though.

It's no biggie, really.  Buy a Japanese system since 95% of all the U.S./PAL games are gonna be region-free anyway, and import the stuff that hits the States first/doesn't get released in Japan.  Plus Asian game prices can be cheaper.  I'd order stuff from Play-Asia with Fedex shipping and it still came out to around the same as your overpriced 7000-8000 yen title.
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« Reply #937 on: May 19, 2011, 07:56:18 PM »
Quality third party support on the Dreamcast was sparse.  The majority of the western support was little more than slightly higher res PSX port ups.  For eastern support, you pretty much just had Capcom.  Besides Code Veronica, they didn't dish out their best of the best.  In fact, I think a high level Capcom executive eluded to the same thing shortly after Sega announcing they went third party.  I mean, I had a lot of fun with Power Stone 2 and Project Justice but let's be real here, they still offered their choice cuts on the PSX instead or later for the PS2.  As they should, considering the larger userbases involved.  As a DC owner since 9/9/99, the third party scene was dismal in general.  The DC internet community reminded me a lot of the early DS era Nintards: anything that wasn't total shit was treated like solid gold.  I remember srs internet discussions about how Ulala was going to be a huge sensation.

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« Reply #938 on: May 19, 2011, 07:59:41 PM »
Dreamcast had Mark of the Wolves.

Argument null and void.
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« Reply #939 on: May 19, 2011, 08:02:37 PM »
Dreamcast had Mark of the Wolves.

Argument null and void.

It was also on PS2
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« Reply #940 on: May 19, 2011, 08:13:43 PM »
Dreamcast had Mark of the Wolves.

Argument null and void.

It was also on PS2

Resident Evil 4 was also on the ps2 as well, but no one sees it as a ps2 game.
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« Reply #941 on: May 19, 2011, 08:23:58 PM »
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« Reply #942 on: May 19, 2011, 09:14:53 PM »
Is Duckroll done with Sony?

Also Asia has BALLS.



I don't know.  I kind of murderously hate him, remember?  We don't exactly share tea and housekeeping stories.

haha, what happened?

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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #943 on: May 19, 2011, 09:17:12 PM »
Dreamcast had Mark of the Wolves.

Argument null and void.

It was also on PS2

Resident Evil 4 was also on the ps2 as well, but no one sees it as a ps2 game.

Mark Of The Wolves was a Neo-Geo game.  No one sees it as a DC game.  :p  It was also the worst port of the game (sound issues) and the PS2 port was better.
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #944 on: May 19, 2011, 09:29:17 PM »
Who the fuck owns a neo geo? Lyte Edge, that's who. Maybe DCharlie. But with NORMAL PEOPLE, we all played Garou on the cast.
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #945 on: May 19, 2011, 09:37:26 PM »
Garou barely sold on the cast, same with your example of RE4. Both games did way better on PS2 than any of the other systems they appeared on (including XBLA)
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #946 on: May 19, 2011, 09:53:31 PM »
Who the fuck owns a neo geo? Lyte Edge, that's who. Maybe DCharlie. But with NORMAL PEOPLE, we all played Garou on the cast.

See:

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Mark Of The Wolves was a Neo-Geo game.  No one sees it as a DC game.  :p

nuked from orbit. Four times.

People played Garou on the Neo, in arcades (yes, they were still around), and emulated on DAT PC before that DC port came out.   :lol

BTW- I sold all my Neo-Geo stuff off.  I don't need it with the PS2 compilations.  If I wanna play Garou I have it on my shelf...for PS2.
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #947 on: May 19, 2011, 10:04:43 PM »
check play-asia, they have a compatability chart.
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #948 on: May 19, 2011, 10:11:48 PM »
Garou is on XBLA too. It's a great game
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #949 on: May 19, 2011, 10:13:13 PM »
yeah afaik all Asia region games are region free. Asia games generally run at cheaper prices than JAP/US games too
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #950 on: May 19, 2011, 10:15:16 PM »
check play-asia, they have a compatability chart.

this is a pain in the arse when i'm out and about doing some unplanned shopping

True but it does give you an idea of who usually does region free games (Take 2, Codemasters, Eidos usually) and who doesn't (EA).
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« Reply #951 on: May 19, 2011, 10:19:24 PM »
Is Duckroll done with Sony?

Also Asia has BALLS.



I don't know.  I kind of murderously hate him, remember?  We don't exactly share tea and housekeeping stories.

haha, what happened?

I like both of you guys :P

Duckroll comes off as a gigantic dick 75% of the time.
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #952 on: May 19, 2011, 11:18:36 PM »
Where's the cheapest place to buy import games in Akihabara?  I usually just go to Nakano since I've found the import stores there to be cheaper, but I pass through the chuo on my way to judo so it would be more convenient for me to go there.  I know that the prices have gone down since a few years ago, what's the average price of a new import 3DS game?  Play-Asia still usually has the best prices but you can be waiting up to a month for the cheap shipping.

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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #953 on: May 19, 2011, 11:22:35 PM »
Is Duckroll done with Sony?

Also Asia has BALLS.



I don't know.  I kind of murderously hate him, remember?  We don't exactly share tea and housekeeping stories.

haha, what happened?

I like both of you guys :P

Duckroll comes off as a gigantic dick 75% of the time.

That's because when he became a mod he decided to simply troll gaf because the gaf userbase is terrible.  When you're not a mod you have to worry about being banned for trolling :P

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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #954 on: May 20, 2011, 01:09:12 AM »
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #955 on: May 22, 2011, 06:32:56 PM »
yeah afaik all Asia region games are region free. Asia games generally run at cheaper prices than JAP/US games too

No. There are many games which the publisher opts to make Asia-region which also run only on Asia-region Xboxen. Midnight Club Los Angeles and Banjo Kazooie N&B are just two examples of games I could have picked up on-the-cheap if only I'd had a Japanese 360.

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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #956 on: May 23, 2011, 05:47:52 AM »
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Sony on Monday changed its earnings estimate for the year to March 2011 to a net loss of 260 billion yen ($3.2 billion) from a profit of 70 billion, in the company's first indication of the financial impact of the devastating March earthquake and tsunami.

ouch.
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #957 on: May 23, 2011, 06:36:14 AM »
[youtube=560,345]nkeeK0Npi2g[/youtube]

awesome, I've always wanted to know the name of that song
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #958 on: May 23, 2011, 11:21:58 AM »
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They're still making a lot of revenue and provide work for loads of people. Investors would've rather liked the profits to grow as fast as the company did and that never happened.

Japan wouldn't allow Sony to go all bankrupt or be taken over by an outside company though. Sony would get a bail out much like US and EU banks but it won't go that far.

:rofl
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Re: PSN Back up in NA, Europe. Still down in Japan/Asian regions
« Reply #959 on: May 23, 2011, 11:25:06 AM »
as long as Uncharted 3 sees the light of day
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