Breaking: Osama Bin Laden dead. Obama to make statement shortly

[T-Short]

Seems to be a lot of Methodis-murmur going on outside the US about if the shooting was justified or not, that bin Laden was "murdered", if the plan was to wack him instead of capture him etc. Dunno what difference this makes, people going on about how Pakistan's sovereignty has been violated and so forth. Is this some sort of big revelation, that the US does unilateral operations to protect their interests inside other sovereign nations? I think the death toll from the UAV missions along the Pakistani border should have tipped people off?

One thing that made me go "huh" was this thing in the NYT though:

Several experts on the rules of engagement in combat said that in a raid on a target as dangerous as Bin Laden, the Navy Seals team would be justified to open fire at the slightest commotion when they burst into a room.

Hehe. Wonder what sort of intel they are going on here. Would love to hear why he's considered so dangerous in close quarters battle. Dood is fucking old, has been ill enough not to be able to update his video blog... What would suggest he would take out a room full of SEAL:s? His publicity-popshots with an AK-47?

Presumably he has (had) bodyguards galore?

Yeah, I have no doubts that there was like a million AK:s in that house. Hehe. But just curious about how dangerous the man himself is considered, dunno about his own combat history etc. Seems like a planner.

also:

[youtube=560,345]MxVdU2eVYSg[/youtube]

 

[T-Short]

I think planning was mostly what he did these days, but the guy definitely saw his share of hands-on shitkicking back when he helped the Taliban boot the Ruskies.

cool beans

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I'm glad to see some of you coming around realizing that we murdered a unarmed man, assassination even, without giving him a fair trial.


But nope college children like BrandNew will tell you that the Seals who are trained for years can't capture 1 small brown 

[Great Rumbler]

Well, like you said, Methodis, he was gonna get the death penalty anyway, so might as well kill him now and save the taxpayers some money. Then chuck his body into the sea, to no one's tears.

[Himu]

OSAMA WAS UNARMED.

HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE PEOPLE. HE WAS INNOCENT!

[rodi]

It must have been so easy to tell that he was unarmed with shit going down all around. Like, open your Navy SEAL eyes or something. Gosh.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Bush lying about WMDs "eh"

Obama lying about an armed Bin Laden "We may have to see what the constitution says about this!"

now we know that Republicans are so single-mindedly dedicated to opposing Obama that they will take Bin Laden's side if necessary

[Joe Molotov]

Osama death pics are surfacing, but according to CNN:

A photographer consulted by CNN said the gruesome photograph is most definitely not real.

"I have seen a great number of poorly Photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake," said Kenna Lindsay, a New York-based photographer who works with composite images.

lmao

[CajoleJuice]

Osama death pics are surfacing, but according to CNN:

A photographer consulted by CNN said the gruesome photograph is most definitely not real.

"I have seen a great number of poorly Photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake," said Kenna Lindsay, a New York-based photographer who works with composite images.

lmao

That is awesome

[AdmiralViscen]

Well, like you said, Methodis, he was gonna get the death penalty anyway, so might as well kill him now and save the taxpayers some money. Then chuck his body into the sea, to no one's tears.

 

[Phoenix Dark]

SEALs are not marines: they do not respect rules of engagement. If OBL gave them any inclination of resistance, they were going to shoot him - and they did. Personally I don't care and see little difference here. Obviously there was a shootout, two men in the room were shooting and perhaps OBL ran. His daughter says they held him captive for 10 minutes before executing him, which I doubt given how little time they had to fuck around.

Most likely they caught him alive, he resisted arrest, they killed him, stole his electronics, and ran back to the choppa.

[Diunx]

Is that photographer quote real?

[Vizzys]

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[duckman2000]

Seems to be a lot of Methodis-murmur going on outside the US about if the shooting was justified or not, that bin Laden was "murdered", if the plan was to wack him instead of capture him etc. Dunno what difference this makes, people going on about how Pakistan's sovereignty has been violated and so forth. Is this some sort of big revelation, that the US does unilateral operations to protect their interests inside other sovereign nations? I think the death toll from the UAV missions along the Pakistani border should have tipped people off?

As a Swede-turned-Murrican currently living in Sweden, it's all a bit amusing. Yeah, alright, scary clandestine government does that stuff that goes against the [false] uppity morals of little do-good [except Bofors] nation Sweden, sit-down uproar as usual, got it. This kind of reaction is as natural as the US not really giving a shit about what international regulations and understandings that it breaches when shit needs to get done.

And then this leftist dumbtard talks about this kind of shit being damned near exactly as bad as the 9/11 attacks. Yahum.

[Robo]

Is that photographer quote real?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/03/bin.laden.fake.photo/index.html?hpt=T1

[Phoenix Dark]

Just three days after the world learned President Obama ordered a daring special operations mission resulting in the death of Osama bin Laden, Sarah Palin has come around to claim he's "pussy-footing around" -- specifically by not immediately releasing photos of the deceased al Qaeda leader. To underscore the irony, Palin claims the pictures should be released "as warning to others seeking America's destruction" -- one day after numerous reports had her moving in a more pragmatic direction on foreign policy.

Palin took to Twitter, one of her go-to modes of communications, moments after news broke that Obama would not release the bin Laden photos.

"Show photo as warning to others seeking America's destruction. No pussy-footing around, no politicking, no drama;it's part of the mission," she said.

It's unclear why she thinks photos of bin Laden's corpse will scare suicidal terrorists.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/palin-obama-pussy-footing-by-not-releasing-photo-of-bin-laden-whom-he-killed.php

Wait, what the fuck?

edit: posted wrong quote initially

[MyNameIsMethodis]

He was assassinated and illegally murdered. Let's move on. 

[rodi]

 

[drew]

NPR just said they decided not to release the photos, anger and frustration a go go, unfortunately i think the final stage will just be apathy

[Human Snorenado]

He was assassinated and illegally murdered. Let's move on. 

Yes.  We murdered the man who publicly and repeatedly admitted that his organization planned and carried out the attack on the USS Cole, the embassy bombings and the 9/11 attacks.  I will admit this with no qualms.  Somehow, I am strangely ok with this.

Also, you're not black.  Kindly die in a fire.

[demi]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/03/bin.laden.fake.photo/index.html?hpt=T1

A photographer consulted by CNN said the gruesome photograph is most definitely not real.

"I have seen a great number of poorly Photoshopped images in my time as a photographer and I can tell by the pixels that it is a fake," said Kenna Lindsay, a New York-based photographer who works with composite images.

EDIT: Already posted... still hilarious

[drew]

i thought you were deployed, how are you posting on eb?

[bdoughty]

Nice to see Phoenix Darks hero, Nancy Pelosi. speak up.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/05/03/intellectual-dishonesty-of-na%0Ancy-pelosi/

Here’s Nancy Pelosi from a press conference on September 7, 2006:

    [E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done . . . is done. And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer.

And here’s Nancy Pelosi yesterday:

    The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. . . . I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. . . . [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic. . . .

Fin

[TakingBackSunday]

hahah

[drew]

double headed hydras, the lot of them

[Skidmark]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[naff]

nvm, I need to keep up to date with news

[Shaka Khan]

A Texas high school teacher has been placed on administrative leave following an incident where he allegedly told a 9th grade Muslim girl in his algebra class "I bet that you're grieving" on Monday following the death of Osama bin Laden.

According to one parent at Clear Brook High School in Houston who spoke about the incident to a local ABC affiliate, the teacher also said, "I heard about your uncle's death."

The parent said the student "understood that he was referring about Osama bin Laden being killed and was racially profiling her."

The name of the alleged victim of the comment has not been released. She is being described as an "American-born girl of Muslim faith."

The teacher allegedly showed no remorse after Muslim girl reacted to his comments, according to the parent (who requested anonymity from the ABC station because "she doesn't want any retaliation against her daughter or the girl who experienced the inappropriate comment.")

"The student ended up crying over what was said to her by the teacher and the teacher asked her why she was crying and another student said it was because of what you said earlier," the parent told the station. "And his response was, oh, OK, and just kind of smirked and giggled and walked away."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/tx-teacher-suspended-after-telling-muslim-student-i-bet-youre-grieving.php?ref=dcblt

What an asshole

[MyNameIsMethodis]

ill just come out and say it, had Bush been president still Osama would be alive and we would have information

[Stoney Mason]

A Texas high school teacher has been placed on administrative leave following an incident where he allegedly told a 9th grade Muslim girl in his algebra class "I bet that you're grieving" on Monday following the death of Osama bin Laden.

According to one parent at Clear Brook High School in Houston who spoke about the incident to a local ABC affiliate, the teacher also said, "I heard about your uncle's death."

The parent said the student "understood that he was referring about Osama bin Laden being killed and was racially profiling her."

The name of the alleged victim of the comment has not been released. She is being described as an "American-born girl of Muslim faith."

The teacher allegedly showed no remorse after Muslim girl reacted to his comments, according to the parent (who requested anonymity from the ABC station because "she doesn't want any retaliation against her daughter or the girl who experienced the inappropriate comment.")

"The student ended up crying over what was said to her by the teacher and the teacher asked her why she was crying and another student said it was because of what you said earlier," the parent told the station. "And his response was, oh, OK, and just kind of smirked and giggled and walked away."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/tx-teacher-suspended-after-telling-muslim-student-i-bet-youre-grieving.php?ref=dcblt

What an asshole

Texas. I stopped reading there.

[chronovore]

Seems to be a lot of Methodis-murmur going on outside the US about if the shooting was justified or not, that bin Laden was "murdered", if the plan was to wack him instead of capture him etc. Dunno what difference this makes, people going on about how Pakistan's sovereignty has been violated and so forth. Is this some sort of big revelation, that the US does unilateral operations to protect their interests inside other sovereign nations? I think the death toll from the UAV missions along the Pakistani border should have tipped people off?

One thing that made me go "huh" was this thing in the NYT though:

Several experts on the rules of engagement in combat said that in a raid on a target as dangerous as Bin Laden, the Navy Seals team would be justified to open fire at the slightest commotion when they burst into a room.

Hehe. Wonder what sort of intel they are going on here. Would love to hear why he's considered so dangerous in close quarters battle. Dood is fucking old, has been ill enough not to be able to update his video blog... What would suggest he would take out a room full of SEAL:s? His publicity-popshots with an AK-47?

Presumably he has (had) bodyguards galore?

Well, it was initially described as a 40-minute shoot-out. So... presumably, it wasn't against OBL's kitchen staff armed with spatulas and pans.

[chronovore]

Oddly, George Dubya has that same dream sequence every day.

[naff]

... the teacher also said, "I heard about your uncle's death." ...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/tx-teacher-suspended-after-telling-muslim-student-i-bet-youre-grieving.php?ref=dcblt

What an asshole

Ruthless

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/05/us-binladen-pakistan-raid-idUSTRE7442NW20110505 I guess we'll never really know what happened, still it would've been better for the American cause imo if al Qaeda had to watch their leader rot in jail.

[bdoughty]

Texas. I stopped reading there.

 

I wonder if you can do that with other states?


Is California too broke to punish prisoners?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/25/EDNB1J70OA.DTL

California. I stopped reading there.

 

Oh boy, I have no idea why people do not do this more? 

[Stoney Mason]

You've wounded me to the core with your vicious attack on California. How dare you sir! How dare you!

[maxy]

So how long until next 9/11?

Need to adjust my TV

[Diunx]

A Texas high school teacher has been placed on administrative leave following an incident where he allegedly told a 9th grade Muslim girl in his algebra class "I bet that you're grieving" on Monday following the death of Osama bin Laden.

According to one parent at Clear Brook High School in Houston who spoke about the incident to a local ABC affiliate, the teacher also said, "I heard about your uncle's death."

The parent said the student "understood that he was referring about Osama bin Laden being killed and was racially profiling her."

The name of the alleged victim of the comment has not been released. She is being described as an "American-born girl of Muslim faith."

The teacher allegedly showed no remorse after Muslim girl reacted to his comments, according to the parent (who requested anonymity from the ABC station because "she doesn't want any retaliation against her daughter or the girl who experienced the inappropriate comment.")

"The student ended up crying over what was said to her by the teacher and the teacher asked her why she was crying and another student said it was because of what you said earlier," the parent told the station. "And his response was, oh, OK, and just kind of smirked and giggled and walked away."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/tx-teacher-suspended-after-telling-muslim-student-i-bet-youre-grieving.php?ref=dcblt

What an asshole

lol, back in 2001 in school people (teachers included) used to teased me saying that OBL was my uncle and shit like that, but since this isn't a country of sandy vaginas we just laugh and kept joking.

[rodi]

Funny or not, that teacher sounds like a dick. Fine line between joking around and being a bully.

[Stoney Mason]

It's one thing if I have a very personal relationship or friendship with somebody where they know my limits and what I find funny or not. If I was muslim and some random teacher joked the way that teacher did I would kick him in his nuts. It has nothing to do with being PC. Keep your stupid shit to yourself unless we are tight.

Same way when I was younger when too hip white people think calling black people my nicca is cool to my face. You ain't that cool white boy.

[Mupepe]

It's one thing if I have a very personal relationship or friendship with somebody where they know my limits and what I find funny or not. If I was muslim and some random teacher joked the way that teacher did I would kick him in his nuts. It has nothing to do with being PC. Keep your stupid shit to yourself unless we are tight.

Same way when too hip white people think calling black people my nicca is cool to my face. You ain't that cool white boy.

truf, my nicca

[Mandark]

It's one thing if I have a very personal relationship or friendship with somebody where they know my limits and what I find funny or not. If I was muslim and some random teacher joked the way that teacher did I would kick him in his nuts. It has nothing to do with being PC. Keep your stupid shit to yourself unless we are tight.

Same way when I was younger when too hip white people think calling black people my nicca is cool to my face. You ain't that cool white boy.

Preach it.

[Beardo]

Michael Moore is very very mad at you guys.

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[Great Rumbler]

When did Michael Moore start looking like an old woman?

[Beardo]

When did Michael Moore start looking like an old woman?

Wow! That was actually exactly what I thought when I saw that freeze frame also. 

[Stoney Mason]

Michael Moore is very very mad at you guys.

Michael Moore is Michael Moore. He can make entertaining at times although overdone documentaries. He is also overly bombastic and a bit overdone on the self worth of his opinion. I lump him in the same category as somebody like Olbermann. 

[Beardo]

Michael Moore is very very mad at you guys.

Michael Moore is Michael Moore. He can make entertaining at times although overdone documentaries. He is also overly bombastic and a bit overdone on the self worth of his opinion. I lump him in the same category as somebody like Olbermann. 

Thus the joke.

[Joe Molotov]

I hope this isn't going to be the plotline to the long-awaiting sequel, Fahrenheit 9/11-2.

[Oblivion]

In other news, Piers Morgan is still a giant cunt.

What did he do now?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Moore was right about everything. He is a great person.

The celebrating was not worth it and just shows how disgusting and distinguished mentally-challenged the youth of america was. People freaked out with other countries celebrating over 911 happeneing yet then they go celebrate Osama's death. Literally no difference.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm embarrassed to be a former Michael Moore-head. I bought Dude, Where's My Country when it first came out. 

I still think he was pretty much on point about Iraq, which I was and still am adamantly opposed to. But that's about it

[Human Snorenado]

He's right about a lot stuff- corporate power, social issues, shit like that. 

[Mandark]

Moore has good instincts and picks good fights, but he tends to play fast and loose.  At his best he brings attention to topics that are getting ignored and gives a prominent voice to people who are getting excluded, and at his worst he's being either sloppy or dishonest and badgering underpaid security guards who shouldn't have to put up with that shit.

I don't agree that he hurts his causes, though.  It's not like Glenn Beck damaged the GOP in the midterms, or that Al Gore's deliberately nerdy, science-oriented approach to policy didn't contribute to a huge crazy backlash against climate science.  Moore's a controversy artist that fires some people up, turns other people off, and probably doesn't make a huge impact either way (though I think GM was forced to keep a couple plants open because of Roger & Me).



PS I really like TV Nation back in the day, but I also thought Bill Maher was great back then, so who knows.

[Human Snorenado]

Bill Maher is still great, minus the whole vaccination bullshit

[Phoenix Dark]

I'd argue he does hurt his causes by playing fast and loose with facts. I haven't seen Sicko but from what I've read it has some pretty big errors, distortions, and deceptive editing. It's hard to bring people to your side when fact checkers can rip apart your work so easily.

[Oblivion]

Bill Maher is still great, minus the whole vaccination bullshit

Word.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-obama-black-ninja-gangster-president/

[Mandark]

It's hard to bring people to your side when fact checkers can rip apart your work so easily.

C'mon.

[Phoenix Dark]

Hold on, what's seriously wrong with that point? If your arguments are riddled with lies and distortions, how do you sway someone? I'm not talking about the type of folks who'd never consider a liberal position regardless of factual evidence - I'm talking about regular people

[Mandark]

It's a lovely thought, but really now.  Ideas and beliefs survive and thrive without a strong factual basis.  People get swayed by exaggerations, half-truths, and outright bullshit.  All the time.  You know this.

[Boogie]

Bill Maher is still great, minus the whole vaccination bullshit

and the PETA bullshit.

[bdoughty]

Bill Maher is still great, minus the whole vaccination bullshit

and the PETA bullshit.

The fact that he is on the Board of Directors at PETA nullifies him being considered GREAT. I have plenty of other reasons but this one pretty much takes the cake.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bill_Maher_and_Ingrid_Newkirk_by_David_Shankbone.jpg