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« on: September 27, 2009, 12:14:50 PM »
Didn't he rape a teenage girl? How is that lame? :lol
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 12:34:55 PM »
No he didnt rape any girl. Unless you don't know what rape means that is. Which judging by your reaction is the case.

You mean as in having sex with an underage child? Yea, that's rape
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 12:37:46 PM »
let's not rush to judge. was the girl polish?

i hear polacks teach their kids to appreciate sex at an early age
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 12:39:22 PM »
Give him the chair.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 12:41:37 PM »
The (now adult) victim has asked for the charges to be dropped.  Who is this for exactly?

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 12:46:44 PM »
Yes, we've all seen the movie Thirteen, Kosma.  It blew our puritanical sensibilities out of the water. 

But the point isn't that thirteen year olds are promiscuous, it's that they're fucking stupid (adults should know better). 

I think the charges should be dropped, but not for the reason you're arguing.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 12:51:35 PM »
Yeah right PD. I can see the setting already, a hollywood mansion, a 13 year old that looks 20 or more on drugs and alcohol surrounded by famous people, then she gets "raped". Same as R Kelly "raping" the skank who just wanted to do him.

I'm not saying its cool, but it aint rape.



Yea, she sure looks 20  ::)

A 13yo girl cannot have consensual sex with an adult, it's automatically rape.

I know the law dude
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 12:57:10 PM »
The (now adult) victim has asked for the charges to be dropped.  Who is this for exactly?

Society and its desire to deter the kosmas of the world from raping 13 year-old girls.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2009, 01:00:37 PM »
HBO had a great documentary on the whole event.  Definitely a must watch.

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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2009, 01:04:00 PM »
With make up, in different clothing, at night, even without alcohol and drugs things look different. I don't know if you ever go out, but young girls get in everywhere all the time.

It's not as if he just met her in a bar: He already met her and her mother on a previous occasion, and took her photos. And he's the one supplied the alcohol and drugs--and gave them to a 13 year-old. So how the fuck is that a mitigating factor?
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 01:04:03 PM »
He's a fucking pedophile. Let him rot in Texas prison. All the lefties and libruls in Poland are making big noise about this, even begging president to help him.

I have a better idea, let's ask president of Poland to allow all 40 year old men to rape < 15 year old girls.

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2009, 01:05:27 PM »
Borys for HPIC

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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2009, 01:08:41 PM »
You guys have no idea it seems what 13 year old do/look like. You think all 13 year olds still play with dolls and shit. No some of them do drugs/drink and party.

Probably because they were diddled and drugged by old people when they were even younger.

Seriously, the legal age where I'm from is 15 and people were fooling around when they were younger than that, but if you can't see the fucked up and disgusting in this, then you're just plain damaged.

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM »
Hey B its not only the Polish foreign ministry getting up in arms, but the French too.

Yeah I know, he has a dual citizenship (polish-french).

For me it's a very black & white situation with Polanski. Had he not run away from the punishment in States I would have a better opinion about him. But hit & run? Come on.

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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2009, 01:13:24 PM »
I like how Kosma is supporting rape. :lol

The girl was not only underage, but asked Polanski to stop. He also gave her quaaludes. Not only was she not of legal age and did not have the maturity to consent, she was also inebriated (with champagne) and drugged. :lol

Obviously the seductress!

Chipopo is indeed correct that the girl asked for the charges to be dropped, partly because she wants to move on with her life, but I don't necessarily people should be able to escape the law because a lot of time has passed.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2009, 01:17:56 PM »
9-years-old as the age of consent in some countries. :lol

Dude, Kosma, regardless of your feelings on statutory rape, Polanski drugged her - after intoxicating her with champagne. An adult wouldn't be in the right mind to consent, well enough a 13-year-old girl.

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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2009, 01:19:11 PM »
Did Polanski ever admit to raping her? Or did he only admit to having sex with a minor?

Uhm, in the state that it occurred, there is little distinction.

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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2009, 01:20:41 PM »
Who says he drugged her? She?

Maybe she took it all herself.

Having sex with a 13-year old who has drugged herself doesn't seem a whole lot better, but hey. Racist, and now a pedo apologist. Well, at least you're making Borys look better.

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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2009, 01:21:05 PM »
Who says he drugged her? She?

Maybe she took it all herself.



Yes, she took Polanski's champagne and quaaludes on her own and then jump on his unsuspecting and unwilling dick.

CASE CLOSED.
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2009, 01:21:27 PM »
Did Polanski ever admit to raping her? Or did he only admit to having sex with a minor?

Considering he plead guilty, and has not said anything whatsoever refuting the claims, the evidence weighs in favor of the girl.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2009, 01:23:42 PM »
Yes, she took Polanski's champagne and quaaludes on her own and then jump on his unsuspecting and unwilling dick.

CASE CLOSED.

Kosma will follow this line of reasoning with, "How do you know if she took alcohol or drugs?"

Followed with, "How do you know that they belonged to Polanski, maybe she bought them from a street corner!"
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2009, 01:24:13 PM »
I just dont think he's all to blame here. I somehow think this is a case of a young skank wanting to lure a famous guy into bed.

I'm not defending pedo's, who I am in favour of chemically castrating, as will be done in Poland soon.

Imho the legal age is fine at 16 as is in Holland.

Wow, this is like the worst "blame the victim" case I've ever heard.
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2009, 01:25:08 PM »
Maurice is pretty thrilled that you quickly diverted attention away from his creepiness in the Mackenzie Phillips thread.
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2009, 01:26:12 PM »
who would have thought kosma would so strongly support sex with 13 year olds.
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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2009, 01:26:36 PM »
Maurice is pretty thrilled that you quickly diverted attention away from his creepiness in the Mackenzie Phillips thread.

At least incest can be consensual!
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2009, 01:27:01 PM »
What did he say in that thread?

Oh no you don't. This one is about you, the pedo defender and "blame the victim" advocate.

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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2009, 01:28:01 PM »
who would have thought kosma would so strongly support sex with 13 year olds.

Yes. You wouldn't even go that low; you only support having sex with women who look like they're 13 years-old.
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« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2009, 01:30:47 PM »
So, let me get this straight.

13-year-old girl says that a 44-year-old man had non-consensual intercourse with her, after giving her a quaalude and champagne. She goes to the authorities. He does not refute the allegations. The man pleads guilty as part of a plea bargain. When it looks likely that he's going to have the ridiculous slap-on-the-wrist repealed, he flees the country. He refuses to talk about the incident or defend himself over the last three decades.

... and you think the girl is guilty? :lol
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« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2009, 01:31:01 PM »
Guys, I feel like we're jumping the gun a little here.  We don't really know the full story, and there are certain circumstances in which Polanski may have needed to rape a 13 year old girl in order to save her.  What if there was an adolescent-hungry vortex, for instance, and because Polanski's hands were full of drugs and champagne, the only way to reel her back in to safety was with his dick.  The point is we don't really know.

Also that work ethic!

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »
after 30 years, doesn't the statute of limitations run out?
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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2009, 01:31:45 PM »
Maurice is pretty thrilled that you quickly diverted attention away from his creepiness in the Mackenzie Phillips thread.

At least incest can be consensual!

You have a ton of actual incest porn, don't you?

Nope, everyone knows my porn preferences

Anyway Kosma, why are you assuming this 13yo was some manipulative skank when ALL THE EVIDENCE points to Polanski
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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2009, 01:32:28 PM »
Guys, I feel like we're jumping the gun a little here.  We don't really know the full story, and there are certain circumstances in which Polanski may have needed to rape a 13 year old girl in order to save her.  What if there was an adolescent hungry vortex, for instance, and because Polanski's hands were full of drugs and champagne, the only way to reel her back in to safety was with his dick.  The point is we don't really know.

Also that work ethic!

:rofl

... fistfulofmetal, I don't think they run out when there is a pending legal case. He fled the country, so technically he's a fugitive. It's not like he left after it was all done and over with.
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2009, 01:33:39 PM »
Willco, how did this case ever get out in the first place? Did the girl sure him? Who got word?

No, she went to the authorities, with her parents, and they charged Polanski with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance (methaqualone) to a minor.

... there was no civil case, and the girl (now a grown woman) has stood by her claims. She's even asked for the charges to be dropped because its open ended nature has continued to traumatize her.

Sounds like she's faking it!
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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2009, 01:34:08 PM »
Anyway Kosma, why are you assuming this 13yo was some manipulative skank when ALL THE EVIDENCE points to Polanski

Just a hunch, but I could be wrong ofcourse. But I can still have a hunch.

I mean some people believe in God when all the evidence says its bull right?
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2009, 01:35:10 PM »
makes sense.
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2009, 01:36:37 PM »
I think the events of the past weekend have reinforced my suspicion that both Phoenix Dark and Kosma were molested as children.
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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2009, 01:37:04 PM »
Then again. She was pretty cute back then. Probably was asking for it.
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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2009, 01:37:34 PM »
:rofl
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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2009, 01:38:32 PM »
 :lol :lol
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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2009, 01:41:29 PM »
I'm not a lawyer but is there a difference between raping a 13-year old girl that looks like skank (maybe she was poor and had no money for better clothes?) and raping a 13-year old girl that looks like nun?

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« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2009, 01:43:59 PM »
Your argument still fails Kosma. She was 13 and couldn't consent to sex anyway, end of story. So you're wrong there. But we also know she asked him to stop, he gave her drugs, etc.

And who cares about  your bartending, although I wonder how many 13yo girls you've seen go home with adults without calling the police
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« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2009, 01:45:17 PM »
after 30 years, doesn't the statute of limitations run out?
Not on fugitives.  Statue of Limitations has to do with the amount of time a state or person has the legal right to bring a case to court.  The case came to court and he was convicted, but as soon as he fled, the charges still remain pending.
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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2009, 01:46:32 PM »
Wow...calling a 13 year old rape victim a skank.

This thread is HOF material in the making.
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« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2009, 01:47:25 PM »
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And who cares about  your bartending

Seriously.  No one is shocked by the fact that 13 year old girls are hungry for dick.  Everyone who's been thirteen themselves knows this.  It's totally besides the point.

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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2009, 01:48:43 PM »
I'm not a lawyer but is there a difference between raping a 13-year old girl that looks like skank (maybe she was poor and had no money for better clothes?) and raping a 13-year old girl that looks like nun?

Borys different jurisdictions allow for mistake-as-to-age defense. The burden is on the defendant. However a 13 year-old's sexual history is legally irrelevant.
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« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2009, 01:53:59 PM »
Apparently, she did bring a civil suit against Polanski in 1993 and it was settled out of court.
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« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2009, 01:56:34 PM »
I somehow doubt she waited nearly twenty years to get money. Most likely it was closure.

And considering Polanski was a fugitive anyway, it's not like he had to settle.
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« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2009, 01:56:51 PM »
after 30 years, doesn't the statute of limitations run out?


It keeps running if you get busted, then flee.  or in his case, actually plead guilty, then flee.  

Which could either mean thats what she wanted all along (money) or that he in fact is guilty of raping a minor, in which case he should be castrated at least.


whoops, he plead guilty.  guess you should've read a bit about this before vehemently defending a kiddie rapist. but I'm sure it was her fault for not aging fast enough ::)
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« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2009, 01:57:45 PM »
Delete this thread for Kosma's sake. smh
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« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2009, 01:59:34 PM »
Obama will straight up laugh at those crackas. :lol
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« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2009, 01:59:44 PM »
PS: Polish and French officials are going to appeal to Obama to grant amnesty to Polanski and ask the Swiss officials to let him go.


and hopefully Obama won't grant it.

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« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2009, 01:59:56 PM »
No way Obama does that  :lol
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« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2009, 02:01:19 PM »
I can imagine Sarkozy calling the red phone in the Oval Office and Obama is all like, "N**** PLEASE!"

Then watches Jay Cutler throw ten interceptions.
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« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2009, 02:02:23 PM »
But its not unheard of, in the realm of possibillities, of a 13 year old to be a total skank, and its not totally unreasonable to suspect that if such a skank would be in a position to fuck a famous dude she would.

It doesn't fucking matter. There is still the matter of a 40-something having sex with a doped up 13 year-old. If you can't see the basic problem here, then you're damaged.

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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2009, 02:02:41 PM »
I somehow doubt she waited nearly twenty years to get money. Most likely it was closure.


Makes sense to me. Skanky 13 year old hatches a plan to finagle a large sum of money from a famous Polish movie director by sleeping with him, feigning rape, manipulating him to flee the country to France, convincing the French government to deny extradition (probably by sleeping with a few government officials, fucking whore), then wait 20 years to file a civil suit. Genius and cunning plan if I do say so myself. Roman Polanksi never saw it coming.
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« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2009, 02:03:12 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2009, 02:03:48 PM »
god damn it. Why did you have to bring Cutler into this!
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2009, 02:04:25 PM »
I know Bush wouldn't as he would like world's most known pedo head on a stick but Obama?

I dunno, polish politics that are not right wing nuts (so they are like Obama) say he should be let go because the woman dropped the case, the case itself is 30 years old, Polanski already paid her etc.
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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2009, 02:05:40 PM »
She didn't drop the case; it's not her case to drop.
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