Author Topic: The Legend Of Zelda Skyward Sword thread of cumbersome control 7.5 7.5 7.5 7.5 (Read 141583 times)

maxy · « **Reply #660 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:06:33 AM »

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Wrong thread?

yes and no

demi · « **Reply #661 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:11:49 AM »

lol, I feel like I'm going through the motions with this game.

The whole volcano area is like "Do you know what a bomb does? Well. Please throw it at this ominously looking pile of rocks."

Positive Touch · « **Reply #662 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:23:31 AM »

so zelda still sucks? good to know

Himu · « **Reply #663 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:51:54 AM »

Majora's Mask is my favorite. Ocarina for obvious reasons and LttP for everything Oscar highlighted after that.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #664 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:08:44 PM »

I'm positively shocked magus and demi hate this game.

Zelda fans will love this game. At least I do – It's Nintendo's best Zelda game since Ocarina of Time. Don't know why its being shat on by a few people.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #665 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:09:32 PM »

expectations are a killer

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #666 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:12:54 PM »

that's why motherfuckers need to just relax regarding new games. It absolutely RUINS games if you hype yourself beyond belief and expect a new Zelda game to be the Ocarina killer. Shit's stupid.

I didn't know much about this game past the first 5 hours and I'm in love with it.

demi · « **Reply #667 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:25:55 PM »

"It gets better after 40 hours"

demi · « **Reply #668 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:27:03 PM »

BrandNew is about to blow a gasket

Even critics agree, this Zelda is lacking. Grow up.

Himu · « **Reply #669 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:28:12 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on November 12, 2011, 12:09:32 PM

expectations are a killer

what expectations?

the hype for this game was pathetic

demi · « **Reply #670 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:32:16 PM »

The Fire Temple boss is not even trying. Is this a joke?

Third · « **Reply #671 on:** November 12, 2011, 12:34:38 PM »

The only Zelda I don't like is TP. I haven't touched Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass, though. But going by the impression, I'd hate those games.

Windu Waika is the last Zelda game I really enjoyed.

And I'm not liking the impressions of SS so far. $:-\$

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #672 on:** November 12, 2011, 01:23:12 PM »

I think N64 Zelda is the last Zelda you really need to play

demi · « **Reply #673 on:** November 12, 2011, 01:29:34 PM »

So, here's the Fire Temple boss, or whatever:

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That line is the arena, except vertical (cause im lazy to type that). You run up a hill, with it chasing you. It will blow up a bomb, and fall back down. You chase it, then it starts sucking in air. You throw in a bomb. It explodes, and an eye is revealed. You slice it up a few times.

It then chases you back up the hill. It then gets blown up and rolls back down. You throw another bomb. You slice its eye.

That's the whole boss fight.

Tasty · « **Reply #674 on:** November 12, 2011, 01:42:17 PM »

TSA did say the first two dungeons sucked. At least the disappointment is at the beginning rather than in TP, where the worst two dungeons were at the end (although TP did still salvage itself and deliver the best ending of the series.) It was even worse in TP's case since all the dungeons before it were just incredible.

demi · « **Reply #675 on:** November 12, 2011, 01:50:54 PM »

There's a Night/Day thing like Majora's, except you are restricted to Skyloft since your bird apparently doesn fly at night :mystery:

Third · « **Reply #676 on:** November 12, 2011, 02:20:53 PM »

The bird doesn't fly at night? That is distinguished mentally-challenged.

Himu · « **Reply #677 on:** November 12, 2011, 02:34:29 PM »

Quote from: demi on November 12, 2011, 01:50:54 PM

There's a Night/Day thing like Majora's, except you are restricted to Skyloft since your bird apparently doesn fly at night :mystery:

ahahahahha

brob · « **Reply #678 on:** November 12, 2011, 02:48:44 PM »

Is the bird scared of the dark? He doesn't seem very intimidating so I guess that makes sense in the story.

demi · « **Reply #679 on:** November 12, 2011, 02:56:15 PM »

No, they say birds dont fly at night.

magus · « **Reply #680 on:** November 12, 2011, 03:17:14 PM »

there is no clock in the game,you go to bed and it switches to night,a quest required it to be night-time to solve but other than that there doesn't seems any reason to have a night-time at all

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #681 on:** November 12, 2011, 03:36:48 PM »

On the one hand, the detractors are the usual suspects. On the other hand BrandNeW is playing the typical pissy defensive fanboy. I'm kinda only interested in Jarosh's impressions but he keeps lamenting the lack of emotional aspects of the game. I just wanna know if its fun.

Most damning thing I've heard is you revisit the first dungeon with no changes or good reason to revisit it. That sounds stupid. edit: And the fact that the lyre is only used to trigger story events. Although considering that all the ways the ocarina was utilised are addressed in other ways in SS, its understandable. Most of the puzzles involving the ocarina were mostly obtuse guesswork anyway.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #682 on:** November 12, 2011, 04:56:38 PM »

I'm not pissy, honest, I just really REALLY fucking love this game. It's the sort of Zelda I've wanted for a while.

And you can absolutely fly the bird at night. You just have to reach a certain point.

Just play the game for yourselves. If I had to rate the series after finishing half of the game so far:

Majora's Mask > Skyward Sword > Twilight Princess > Oracle games > Ocarina of Time > Wind Waker > Link's Awakening > A Link to the Past > Minish Cap > Spirit Tracks > Zelda I > Phantom Hourglass > Zelda II

demi · « **Reply #683 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:02:36 PM »

The third boss was an even bigger joke. I thought it was gonna be sweet, then I stab his eye a few times and he was dead. wtf?

Tasty · « **Reply #684 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:02:54 PM »

Don't know if I can take any list that seriously that has LttP so low.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #685 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:10:15 PM »

ALttp has aged poorly, I think. *shrugs*

And I don't think boss battles have been great in Zelda since...Ocarina. And even they were huge jokes.

Tasty · « **Reply #686 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:11:05 PM »

I don't think any game has aged better than LttP. Maybe Yoshi's Island or Mega Man X.

demi · « **Reply #687 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:13:13 PM »

Does Ghiarim become cool? All he does is cry and flail his hands cuz Zelda got away.

Himu · « **Reply #688 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:14:05 PM »

how the hell has lttp aged poorly

Positive Touch · « **Reply #689 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:57:43 PM »

lttp is still one of the pinnacles of 2d gaming and was definitely not surpassed by its portable successors

same with oot & the other 3d games, but the difference is that most of the other 3d games had pretty heavy flaws

Himu · « **Reply #690 on:** November 12, 2011, 05:58:12 PM »

Not Majora's Mask.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #691 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:12:44 PM »

yeah majoras mask was a good game, but the time shit was cumbersome to say the least, and the notebook was only an ok replacement for the dungeons. also i know a lot of people here dont agree with me, but i though the few dungeons that were in mm were gimmicky ass and not at all fun.

sometimes i think ninthings fail to remember that up until the early n64 era nintendo was still making groundbreaking, industry-changing games. their big franchises dared to try new things and were usually amazing. they've lost most of that old creativity, so even when they put out a solid game it just feels like old hat. the industries' changed a lot in the last 10 years but zelda has totally failed to keep up.

Himu · « **Reply #692 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:17:33 PM »

I didn't find the time stuff cumbersome. maybe when I first played it and I was expecting OoT 2.0, but not these days since you have complete control over it.

demi · « **Reply #693 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:24:55 PM »

lol, i have to go back to all the areas again to power up my sword.

i wish there was an easier way to travel.

demi · « **Reply #694 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:37:44 PM »

what do i need to get for this bitch in the toilet? she says she wants paper.

Oblivion · « **Reply #695 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:42:05 PM »

Not being able to fly at night is a big wtf.

Oblivion · « **Reply #696 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:54:51 PM »

omg someone uploaded the Zelda 25th anniversary concert soundtrack:

demi · « **Reply #697 on:** November 12, 2011, 06:59:15 PM »

So am I understanding that theres only 3 areas to this whole game? A desert, a volcano, and a forest.

What's going on here? What has Nintendo been doing this whole time?

Oblivion · « **Reply #698 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:06:32 PM »

Apparently the land forms change later on or something.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #699 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:36:13 PM »

Quote from: demi on November 12, 2011, 06:37:44 PM

what do i need to get for this bitch in the toilet? she says she wants paper.

Yay, toilet hand returns - my favourite Zelda character.

EDIT: LttP isn't the pinnacle of anything - it just doesn't have any notable flaws unlike all the better Zelda games, other than some occasionally shitty spritework.

demi · « **Reply #700 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:41:37 PM »

Don't know if its toilet hand, the door is locked. It just says "I need paper, any kind of paper" and I'm like uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Then I realise 99% of the quests in Zelda games are shit. So I moved on.

magus · « **Reply #701 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:50:20 PM »

one interessing system that wasn't discussed here is that link can hold 4 consumable items,you can bring the usual bottles,a shield and several medal which bestow upon him powers like "more loot" or "more hearts" or "bug radar"

also this might be the first zelda where rupee are usefull because the merchant price are crazy,one of them sells an heart piece for 1,600 fucking rupee

anyway i entered the third dungeon (as usual there was another fetch quest to solve before you could enter) and got the treasure

spoiler (click to show/hide)

a jar that let you blow wind that you can use to unveil sand patches... it kinda control like the water jetpack of mario sunshine

[close]

alas i still have to see the boss

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EDIT: LttP isn't the pinnacle of anything - it just doesn't have any notable flaws unlike all the better Zelda games (other than some occasionally shitty spritework).

i think LttP is just somewhat bland,seriously the oracles game beat the shit out of it,for example the music

what does Lttp get?

zzzzzzzzzz it sounds like a mosquito flying and you have to suffer it for every dungeon

Positive Touch · « **Reply #702 on:** November 12, 2011, 08:02:29 PM »

fuckin kids these days

no appreciation for the classics

demi · « **Reply #703 on:** November 12, 2011, 08:11:47 PM »

ahahahaha, the tears of light are back, i was waiting for them to make an appearance.

Oblivion · « **Reply #704 on:** November 12, 2011, 09:56:06 PM »

Heh, GT gave it a 9.1. Complained about no voice acting.

The review has some spoilers, btw.

Tasty · « **Reply #705 on:** November 12, 2011, 09:59:26 PM »

Unsurprised considering the absolute tongue bathing they gave TP.

I mean, I love TP, but that review...

MCD · « **Reply #706 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:10:26 PM »

So this game is TP2?

Eww...

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #707 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:19:57 PM »

this game is nothing like twilight princess

Positive Touch · « **Reply #708 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:43:14 PM »

sceneman will never be stopped

brob · « **Reply #709 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:45:34 PM »

ooh, ooh, ooh! I only like Links Awakening and Wind Waker out of the Zelda games. And the only reason I like Wind Waker is because of the sailing and Tingle. Never made it further than the dark world in A Link to the Past and quit at the first dungeon in Ocarina of Time.

Do I win?

bork · « **Reply #710 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:47:01 PM »

Only Zeldas I've liked are LttP and Link's Awakening.

demi · « **Reply #711 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:47:52 PM »

Quote from: MCD on November 12, 2011, 10:10:26 PM

So this game is TP2?

Eww...

Aside from no wolf, it might as well be.

demi · « **Reply #712 on:** November 12, 2011, 10:58:09 PM »

I think the biggest gimmick to this game is the motion plus. Every enemy has no AI. They just loop a series of patterns, and you have to slice the correct way. The problem is, motion plus is horrible. You slice sidesways, and Link will do a diagonal, which the game says is incorrect. Or you'll jerk the nunchuck and Link instead does his spin, or flip, which is also incorrect.

Right now I'm fighting this skeleton that moves its swords a certain way, and all I do is walk in a circle and slice at the correct motion. It's really boring.

Sometimes the Motion Plus goes completely haywire, and when you're trying to aim the Beetle, or the Slingshot, Link will go spaz and you have to auto-center the reticule by pressing on the d-pad. It's like they knew this tech is bad and planned for it.

demi · « **Reply #713 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:00:13 PM »

Maybe not a gimmick. a Detractor? It's just a huge drawback.

demi · « **Reply #714 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:07:13 PM »

The Stamina Circle is also a hugely unnecessary addition. Why is this here, and what purpose does it serve to limit me?

Tasty · « **Reply #715 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:29:08 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on November 12, 2011, 10:45:34 PM

And the only reason I like Wind Waker is because of... Tingle. Never made it further than the dark world in A Link to the Past and quit at the first dungeon in Ocarina of Time.

Wario64 · « **Reply #716 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:31:09 PM »

Motion Plus works fine to me. But I agree the AI is dumb as fuck. I feel like I'm playing an extended version of that sword game from Wii Sports Resort.

Also, how do I find this kid in Skyloft graveyard?

demi · « **Reply #717 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:40:56 PM »

You have to go at night time (sleep in a bed), then you push the stone thats right next to the tree. You might have to slap it with your sword first.

demi · « **Reply #718 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:43:02 PM »

If you didnt have enough waggle, they gave me a whip now.

Wario64 · « **Reply #719 on:** November 12, 2011, 11:59:42 PM »

Oh I didn't hit the grave. I guess it was a side quest anyway since I just skipped it and heading to the 3rd temple.

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