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[Damian79]

You are telling me that CoD 5 looks better than Zombi U?  The textures alones kill it graphically.

[Diunx]

What the fuck is call of duty 5? I'm talking about Black Ops 2! and use the regular single player no the goddamn zombie mode.

[cool breeze]

That's a CG trailer, fyi.  Real game looks fine but by no means great.  If this footage traveled through time and leaked in 2007, people would've assumed it's Condemned 2.

Zombiu sounds cool but forum people will oversell because it's a system exclusive.  Or knock, for similar reasons.  It and P100 are the only interesting Wii U games thus far.  Sounds like a dumbified single player DayZ with less abstract gamey parts.  It it was on a system I own, I'd check it out after it dropped to $15.

[pilonv1]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

Take Prole with you

Cruncheons on the road pls

[Van Cruncheon]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wii u in action

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back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

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[Joe Molotov]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

Take Prole with you

Cruncheons on the road pls

Not since Howard Stern sent Wolfie to Bronycon has the potential been this great.

[D3RANG3D]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wii u in action

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back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

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But will you have a scathing review on The Cruncheons?

[Van Cruncheon]

if the lovely mister gundam agrees to take me to the ninprom, yes!

[Phoenix Dark]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wii u in action

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back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

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[Joe Molotov]

ninprom

Now you guys have to do it, you can't tease us this much and then leave us hanging.

[D3RANG3D]

ninprom

Now you guys have to do it, you can't tease us this much and then leave us hanging.

This!

[pilonv1]

If I don't see a pic of Gundam and Prole infront of a Weeeeeeoooooooooooo logo with one of them holding a corsage I will be disappointed.

[Damian79]

That's a CG trailer, fyi.  Real game looks fine but by no means great.  If this footage traveled through time and leaked in 2007, people would've assumed it's Condemned 2.

Zombiu sounds cool but forum people will oversell because it's a system exclusive.  Or knock, for similar reasons.  It and P100 are the only interesting Wii U games thus far.  Sounds like a dumbified single player DayZ with less abstract gamey parts.  It it was on a system I own, I'd check it out after it dropped to $15.

That isnt the cg trailer.  They changed to look to a bit grittier i believe.  But it does look like that.


As for black ops 2:


You are right, the textures while not as great as the WiiU game black ops makes up for it in terms of geometry on screen.

[Mr. Gundam]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action

spoiler (click to show/hide)

back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

[close]

I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.

[Huff]

Gundam, just curious, but how did you get the invite/tickets?

[Mr. Gundam]

Gundam, just curious, but how did you get the invite/tickets?

Club Nintendo email.

I do own a DS and Gamecube.

[cool breeze]

That isnt the cg trailer.  They changed to look to a bit grittier i believe.  But it does look like that

I'm not really sure what else there is to say.  Fact is that the ZombiU trailer is CG.  It's not that's my opinion on it.  It just is what it is.

Ubisoft did the same thing with Red Steel way back when


Since ZombiU only had about a year of dev time by E3, more or less, I guess Ubisoft had the target CG video created to show around. 

[Van Cruncheon]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action

spoiler (click to show/hide)

back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

[close]

I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.

Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.

[Human Snorenado]

Someone take a digital voice recorder, we can have our first ever CRUNCHEONS FIELD REPORT.  See if you can get anyone official to say anything on the record, then let them know it will be featured in a podcast that makes frequent and shameless anal sex jokes.

[pilonv1]

Just get someone official to say weeeoooo

[DCharlieJP]

X360 launch title from 2006 - hopefully Ubi can eek enough out of actual hardware to at least look approaching this level.

[Damian79]

X360 launch title from 2006 - hopefully Ubi can eek enough out of actual hardware to at least look approaching this level.

That is a gamescome pic of it in a london mansion.  But it looks about on par with that.  Hmm, Zombi U actally projects shadiows unlike Condemned?  I see no proected shaows in Condemned.

[Fifstar]

No one really cares if it looks slightly better or not, it's just embarrasing for Nintendo to have that discussion in the first place.

[Takao]

No one really cares if it looks slightly better or not, it's just embarrasing for Nintendo to have that discussion in the first place.

I agree. It's even worse when a game looking better on Wii U than PS3, or 360 gets news headlines. I'd certainly hope hardware released 6 years later would be better.

[DCharlieJP]

I see no proected shaows in Condemned.

Condemned has projected shadows.

[Phoenix Dark]

At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years

[Tasty]

At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years

This comment is soooo original.

[Phoenix Dark]

At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years

This comment is soooo original.

I like taking things from other people and adding my own personal spice. Sort of like Nintendo

[Tasty]

At this rate Ntards will be bragging about a Wii3.0 game looking better than Uncharted 3 in 15 years

This comment is soooo original.

I like taking things from other people and adding my own personal spice. Sort of like Nintendo

Don't you mean Sony.

[Damian79]

I see no proected shaows in Condemned.

Condemned has projected shadows.

Well it wasnt in the vid you showed me.

[Mr. Gundam]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action

spoiler (click to show/hide)

back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

[close]

I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.

Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.

Same here. Em and Addie are flying to Omaha that morning, so it's Man Night on Capitol Hill.

[Van Cruncheon]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action

spoiler (click to show/hide)

back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

[close]

I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.

Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.

Same here. Em and Addie are flying to Omaha that morning, so it's Man Night on Capitol Hill.

THUMBS UP. meet at your digs, if that's cool?

[Phoenix Dark]

You guys gonna exchange friend codes before or after?

[AdmiralViscen]

WHen was DC's account deleted?

[Mr. Gundam]

Got invited to the WiiU Experience in Seattle on September 6th. Who wants to come with me and kill some whimsy?

i'll roll with you, nukka. though i may have already seen the wiiu in action

spoiler (click to show/hide)

back in 2007 when we overclocked a 360

[close]

I have three extra invite reservation codes, if you really want to go and hate on some whimsy with me. It's some event space on Capitol Hill. We can roll on in, fuck some shit up and then drink manly beers at Quinn's down the street.

Signed up for 8 to 9:30 PM. Let's get NINFAGGED.

Same here. Em and Addie are flying to Omaha that morning, so it's Man Night on Capitol Hill.

THUMBS UP. meet at your digs, if that's cool?

Sounds great. I've got two more invite codes if MAF or WhiteMan want to come with. Or if there are any other Seattle Bore dudes lurking.

[DCharlieJP]

yes, i needed some time away - i came back tired and full of hate. Best time off ever. Really recharged my batteries.

[maxy]

gaf user that caused quite a stir few months ago,

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. It looks like that is exactly what they did. They made a tri core "Enhanced" Broadway.I understand it for the "wii compatibility mode" but good lord is it a terrible idea for anything else.

Now I'm shady? Its not my fault I am not an engineer and call them like the docs say. About the cpu I am sure of this. The term "enhanced broadway" is straight from nintendo.

good luck with that,Nintendo

[Tasty]

We've known for a bit the CPU would probably be the main bottleneck, but I don't see the real issue here. If they can get the Broadway architecture to sufficient performance levels, then why should they throw it out and start from scratch? It's not like they're just tweaking and overclocking it, like what they did with Gekko.

PowerPC is probably getting long in the tooth but that's more because no one's using it anymore.

[Human Snorenado]

We've known for a bit the CPU would probably be the main bottleneck, but I don't see the real issue here. If they can get the Broadway architecture to sufficient performance levels, then why should they throw it out and start from scratch? It's not like they're just tweaking and overclocking it, like what they did with Gekko.

PowerPC is probably getting long in the tooth but that's more because no one's using it anymore.

What is sufficient here?  Cutting edge 2007?  Keep fucking that chicken, Andy.

[Van Cruncheon]

hahahaha, 3 core upclocked broadway + 4670m -- no wonder devs have to resort to "well, at least it has a gig of ram!"

[Cerveza mas fina]

Well they want this to be a port machine for 360/PS3 games so no need to go above those in tech specs much.

It won't be able to run anything from PS4/720 anyway.

[Tasty]

What is sufficient here?  Cutting edge 2007?  Keep fucking that chicken, Andy.

Cutting edge 2007 is sufficient for PS360 ports, yeah. I don't think I've argued otherwise.

[DCharlieJP]

Cutting edge 2007 is sufficient for PS360 ports, yeah. I don't think I've argued otherwise.

I for one am thrilled for Nintendo fans to be entering 2007. Whitney Houston is still alive in their shitty alternate reality and no one has even heard of One Direction. Bliss.

I'm sorry - i'm just losing it today - i'm seeing people who i actually like rolling out the excuses and being happy with the base requirement of "Nintendo in HD" - okay, i've peddled this out myself but that's a "best of worst case scenario" - Nthings are peddling it out like it's something to be proud of.

Where did all the "THOSE PROFITS!" "SCROOGE IN A PIT OF MONEY" "IT PRINTS MONEY" atttitudes go? the top and bottom of it is Nintendo made mad bank and they decided , even though they are going seemingly for the Nintendo hardcore fan, that they'll cheap everyone out and charge a premium. Grow a fucking pair, Nintendo fans - it's fucking disgusting how your company of choice is treating you. 2007 tech as we race into 2013? And to the sound of clapping? you fucking muppets.

hahahaha, 3 core upclocked broadway + 4670m -- no wonder devs have to resort to "well, at least it has a gig of ram!"

every person i know who has worked on Wii U : "... it made sense for Wii. But now? i just don't get it. Plus - that CPU is garbage"

Nintendo fans need not worry though - Japan's mongbert wanker army of workshy fops will be right behind the Wii U because doing new stuff on new hard way is sooooo hard.

[Joe Molotov]

But look at all that RAM DCharlie, holy crap. WiiU is a RAM powerhouse!

[DCharlieJP]

But look at all that RAM DCharlie, holy crap. WiiU is a RAM powerhouse!

That RAM will be useful for cramming in all that uncompressed ignorance whimsy

as said previously - Nintendo fans have set themselves up the bomb: after claiming for X years that HD isn't important, they're all about to jizz over the EXACT same standard they apparently didn't see the need for X years ago and they're suddenly going to go on about "superior" versions because the Video RAM allows for higher res textures.

You couldn't make it up - it's absolutely amazing. And meanwhile i see people i -respect- on facebook going on about Wii U being more than good enough and how PS4/X720 (EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SEEN FUCK ALL OF THEM) won't change their minds that the Wii U is good enough and FINE WITH ME THANKS.

I CANT THINK WITH FOR MYSELF, NOT WITH ALL THIS NINTENDO SPUNK IN MY STOMACH.

[Tasty]

Cutting edge 2007 is sufficient for PS360 ports, yeah. I don't think I've argued otherwise.

I for one am thrilled for Nintendo fans to be entering 2007. Whitney Houston is still alive in their shitty alternate reality and no one has even heard of One Direction. Bliss.

I'm sorry - i'm just losing it today - i'm seeing people who i actually like rolling out the excuses and being happy with the base requirement of "Nintendo in HD" - okay, i've peddled this out myself but that's a "best of worst case scenario" - Nthings are peddling it out like it's something to be proud of.

Where did all the "THOSE PROFITS!" "SCROOGE IN A PIT OF MONEY" "IT PRINTS MONEY" atttitudes go? the top and bottom of it is Nintendo made mad bank and they decided , even though they are going seemingly for the Nintendo hardcore fan, that they'll cheap everyone out and charge a premium. Grow a fucking pair, Nintendo fans - it's fucking disgusting how your company of choice is treating you. 2007 tech as we race into 2013? And to the sound of clapping? you fucking muppets.

are you talking to me

[DCharlieJP]

are you talking to me

not particularly  it's more aimed at actual industry vets who -should- know better but who , whilst happy to call others out, predictably rally to the Nintendo cause - debasing themselves in the process.

I give you a mild pass because you are still a bit wet behind the ears and it's borderline cute that you don't know what you are talking about half the time

[Tasty]

So if I understand the specs correctly Wii U = still sub-HD PS3/360 ports @ 20fps but with HD textures?

Ports will be fine if devs do an OK job with the port, which has always been the case for every platform ever. Those that actually put effort in will be rewarded, but that won't be the case usually unfortunately.

are you talking to me

not particularly  it's more aimed at actual industry vets who -should- know better but who , whilst happy to call others out, predictably rally to the Nintendo cause - debasing themselves in the process.

I give you a mild pass because you are still a bit wet behind the ears and it's borderline cute that you don't know what you are talking about half the time

then don't quote me you tosser

[Diunx]

"HD textures"

[Brehvolution]

Japan's mongbert wanker army of workshy fops will be right behind the Wii U

Newsfeed pls

[DCharlieJP]

then don't quote me you tosser

your statement about 2007 performance seemed as good as a place as any to start.

I just don't understand why Nthings - who are keen to point out the amazing profitability and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness of their favourite company are happy that a machine that's coming out in ... 2012? 2013?... is -maybe- going to be around the 2007 sort of level.

But hey - dividends for investbros before performance for gamehoes.

[Takao]

Giving you a machine that has 2007 tech in 2012 means you can maintain amazing profitability, and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness because as we all know the average Nintendo fan owns large quantities of stock in the company.

[maxy]

Ports will be fine if devs do an OK job with the port, which has always been the case for every platform ever. Those that actually put effort in will be rewarded, but that won't be the case usually unfortunately.

/lazy devs

[Tasty]

then don't quote me you tosser

your statement about 2007 performance seemed as good as a place as any to start.

I just don't understand why Nthings - who are keen to point out the amazing profitability and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness of their favourite company

I think you're the one stuck in 2007. It's been a while since I've seen that meme even used non-ironically.

Then again I don't travel in many Nintard circles on GAF, which brings up the question, why do you?

are happy that a machine that's coming out in ... 2012? 2013?... is -maybe- going to be around the 2007 sort of level.

But hey - dividends for investbros before performance for gamehoes.

If you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.

[DCharlieJP]

then don't quote me you tosser

your statement about 2007 performance seemed as good as a place as any to start.

I just don't understand why Nthings - who are keen to point out the amazing profitability and IT PRINTS MONEY-ness of their favourite company

I think you're the one stuck in 2007. It's been a while since I've seen that meme even used non-ironically.

Then again I don't travel in many Nintard circles on GAF, which brings up the question, why do you?

are happy that a machine that's coming out in ... 2012? 2013?... is -maybe- going to be around the 2007 sort of level.

But hey - dividends for investbros before performance for gamehoes.

If you want cutting edge, you get a PC. That's always been the case and will always be the case. Seems a bit disingenuous to me to rail against Nintards being OK with 2007 performance when PS4/720 will likely only be a few years newer performance wise, and which the PC will rightly trounce out of the gate same as Wii U.

looll - so the big defense is .... PCs are more powerful than PS4/720 so it's okay for Nintendo to shit all over us?

jesus fucking christ.

[Tasty]

looll - so the big defense is .... PCs are more powerful than PS4/720 so it's okay for Nintendo to shit all over us?

jesus fucking christ.

I'm not the emissary for Nintendo fans so no, that isn't the big defense.

That's not a justification, either. That's just how I feel about things. If I want the best performance I'll build an awesome gaming PC (which I'm currently one year late on doing, c'est la vie.) Being a graphics whore for consoles has always been quaint at best.

[Eel O'Brian]

the problem with ps360 ports is that there won't be any new ps360 games being made for them to port after a couple of years, and it isn't going to be worth it to publishers to port games much older than 1-2 years

[Takao]

You see Andrex, the PS4/720 will actually benefit PC gamers because it raises the bar for multi-platform releases. Wii U? Nope.

[Tasty]

the problem with ps360 ports is that there won't be any new ps360 games being made for them to port after a couple of years, and it isn't going to be worth it to publishers to port games much older than 1-2 years

That's my largest concern at this point. I don't know what Nintendo's planning, but I believe they're hoping the Wii U builds enough of a base before the other consoles come out that it'll have to be supported with ports. Which is naive, since sales didn't guarantee the Wii ports. They probably hope that the Wii U/other console gap isn't as big as the Wii/PS360 one -- which honestly, it probably won't be. It'll be a noticeable gap, but not as big I think. We'll see.

[Eel O'Brian]

I think it'll be fine for the first couple of years, with the software overlap of new/old consoles, but there's a real possibility that things will dry up faster than Wii did after that.