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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1320 on: August 27, 2012, 06:58:16 PM »
Underpowered tech charged at a premium price for the next Nintendo device?  No way!

This is something Nintendo has been pulling since they released the DS and it shouldn't actually surprise anybody eight years later with the Wii U.  Nintendo doesn't give a shit; they're just hoping they can pull another Wii Play out of their asses.  Nintendo only gives a shit about one thing: Nintendo.  They don't care if third party support dries up once the 720 and PS4 hit because they've always seen third party as competition.

That shitty launch lineup is probably the best Wii U is going to get - you better enjoy it.
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« Reply #1321 on: August 27, 2012, 07:05:03 PM »
Having said that, if NSMBU turns out to be great, I'll be there at launch for sure! :derp
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« Reply #1322 on: August 27, 2012, 07:14:14 PM »
Ahh P100. Not the best screenshot of that game, I'd wager.

I'm just quoting GAF. This is the screenshot offered up as proof that the graphics were "truly something else."

I agree, when compared to actual next-generation hardware, those graphics are...truly something else.

Those graphics are amazing if you ignore the last six+ years of PC, PS3, and 360 games like your average ninthing has!

Now you're playing with power.  HD power!
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« Reply #1323 on: August 27, 2012, 07:33:18 PM »
November 18th
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« Reply #1324 on: August 27, 2012, 08:12:50 PM »
November 18th

WHAT A SURPRISE

I could have called that a year ago.

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« Reply #1325 on: August 27, 2012, 09:00:58 PM »
The only interesting part of the 'power' speculations is whether or not it will impact wii u games being developed by third party developers, but the fixation on polygons and particle effects and shaders and whatever by joe messageboard seems a little misplaced in the grand scheme of things.  Often see the same folks being ios feggits and before that were slobbering all over their psp's with its kinda sorta dreamcasty output.  Nintendo's mantra is low barrier of entry when it comes to game design and hardware engineering ( the 3ds a slight deviation from this that *SURPRISE* sorta bit them in the ass), and I don't think its entirely fair to lambast them for being conservative in this regard.  They don't dig themselves into a hole=consumers get reliable, affordable if not bleeding edge hardware- they get to stay in the business. 

As of right now, the neXtbox does sound like its going to crazy, but let's see what they expect upfront.  Maybe they'll do a contract thing with low price box and x number of years of xbox live, or they'll take a loss upfront until they can sell them at a profit. 
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1326 on: August 27, 2012, 09:09:58 PM »
lol @ the idea of 3rd party devs developing stuff with a mind for wii u

portbox is what it's going to be for the first year or two, then it's gonna be quarterly 1st party releases and nothing else

which honestly is ok with most ninthings; the whole 3rd party support thing is a major canard.  they only claim to want it, don't really support it when it happens
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« Reply #1327 on: August 27, 2012, 09:12:19 PM »
I bought my gamecube in 2003 cus Viewtiful Joe.  So eat me.
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« Reply #1328 on: August 27, 2012, 09:15:37 PM »
For what its worth, I doubt the Wii or the Gamecube would have got a game as high of caliber as Darksiders 2 or Arkham City.  Even though I got Arkham City + All DLC + Arkham Asylum GOTY Edition for $15 total on Steam.

That will make the tears all the more bitter when those kinds of games will dry up once the real next gen consoles come out.  Then it's back to pretending shitware like Carnival Games are better than the shovelware that they really are.
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« Reply #1329 on: August 27, 2012, 09:16:38 PM »
I bought my gamecube in 2003 cus Viewtiful Joe.  So eat me.

And to think, you could have just waited for the PS2 version  :'(
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« Reply #1330 on: August 27, 2012, 09:20:47 PM »
I got metroid prime and melee out of it, it was alright.
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« Reply #1331 on: August 27, 2012, 09:21:00 PM »
they only claim to want it, don't really support it when it happens

::) Must be why Okami Wii sold as much as the PS2 version on a smaller install base, or why the CoD and GH/RB ports did so well.

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« Reply #1332 on: August 27, 2012, 09:28:34 PM »
My Gamecube sticks around for one of the best Gundam games ever made.

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« Reply #1333 on: August 27, 2012, 09:52:36 PM »
If Vita owners are allowed to get excited for a port of a four year old PS2 JRPG, I'll let the Nintards get excited over Trine.  Not that it'll stop there, but what can ya do?

At least Vitards are getting excited over a portable version of that game.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1334 on: August 27, 2012, 10:14:39 PM »
The truth about third parties and Nintendo platforms is this: the average console owner (ie not us) probably isn't going to buy more than ten or so games over the course of a console's life.  Any console.  Nintendo's first party games tend to suck the air out of the room on that.  They get their Wii Sports with the system, and they're good for a while.  Then they need another controller, so they buy Wii Play, and they're good for a while.  What next?  Hmm, a whole bunch of games I don't know, or Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Kart/Zelda/Mario Party/New Super Mario Bros/Smash Bros/Donkey Kong/Wii Sports Resort and oh my we're getting close to ten here, aren't we?  This is why the third party (major) successes on Nintendo consoles by and large tend to be extremely well-known brands (Call of Duty, Sonic, Star Wars, Mickey Mouse, Guitar Hero).

Nintendo by themselves largely satisfy the needs of the mass audience on their console.  No other hardware manufacturer has that kind of power.  Maybe no other publisher, even.  And this scenario makes Nintendo the most money, to boot.  This is why, even though for appearances' sake Nintendo and their friendly third parties will pretend to be working on "the problem", it will never actually be solved.

Yeah. Sure would be nice if it was, though.

The only way it might is if one of the others bow out. Suddenly in a two-party system, everything's fair game. If it was just the 360 and Wii this gen, would Wii have gotten more support? I think so. Being able to justify HD development as hitting "three" platforms (although usually just two, PS3 and 360) allowed pubs to sidestep the Wii  and justify it.

The other factors at play of course were the Wii being weak and Nintendo's history with third parties.

But would any of that matter if there was only one other kid on the block? It didn't seem to during the SNES/Genesis days, where Nintendo arguably treated third parties the worst in their history (maybe N64 takes that crown.)

Or for a more recent example, look at the recent handheld wars. Two systems. Both the PSP and DS got some pretty great third party games despite the large power gap.

I don't know, I'm thinking out loud. There probably would have been other problems.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1335 on: August 27, 2012, 10:28:22 PM »
You have to go back (in my opinion anyway) all the way to the 16 bit era for a time when "all things were roughly equal" tech wise for Nintendo in a console era.  N64 they stuck with carts, GC they had a fucking distinguished mentally-challenged controller and stupid discs, Wii is obviously an underpowered gimmick machine compared to 360/PS3.  So, that was the last time the tech was roughly equal, and it was a MASSIVELY different environment for publishers and developers.  We aren't going back to an era where games that matter are going to be console exclusive unless they're first party.  Deal with it.  Devs have to sink too much money into titles to justify that; you have to have a multi-platform release unless it's a niche product, and niche products don't establish console dominance. 

Let's just state some truisms:
-Nintendo fans like nintendo games
-3rd parties want to make money, so they're going to release their games on as many consoles as they feasibly can to make said monies
-If Nintendo wants to make a console that is going to be technologically inferior to the market drivers so as to maximize their profits(hint: they do), 3rd parties aren't going to develop even ports for it
-You're still going to get your first party whimsy shit, so what the fuck do you care

I mean, what's so hard to understand?  If you want to play Nintendo games, you get the nintendo console.  If you want to play everything else, you get either a 720 or PS4.  If you want to play both, nut up and pay the money to have both.  Or just be a member of the PC elite; you get to hang with based gaben and we have orgies.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1336 on: August 27, 2012, 10:29:15 PM »
The truth about third parties and Nintendo platforms is this: the average console owner (ie not us) probably isn't going to buy more than ten or so games over the course of a console's life.  Any console.  Nintendo's first party games tend to suck the air out of the room on that.  They get their Wii Sports with the system, and they're good for a while.  Then they need another controller, so they buy Wii Play, and they're good for a while.  What next?  Hmm, a whole bunch of games I don't know, or Super Mario Galaxy/Mario Kart/Zelda/Mario Party/New Super Mario Bros/Smash Bros/Donkey Kong/Wii Sports Resort and oh my we're getting close to ten here, aren't we?  This is why the third party (major) successes on Nintendo consoles by and large tend to be extremely well-known brands (Call of Duty, Sonic, Star Wars, Mickey Mouse, Guitar Hero).

Nintendo by themselves largely satisfy the needs of the mass audience on their console.  No other hardware manufacturer has that kind of power.  Maybe no other publisher, even.  And this scenario makes Nintendo the most money, to boot.  This is why, even though for appearances' sake Nintendo and their friendly third parties will pretend to be working on "the problem", it will never actually be solved.

Yeah. Sure would be nice if it was, though.

The only way it might is if one of the others bow out. Suddenly in a two-party system, everything's fair game. If it was just the 360 and Wii this gen, would Wii have gotten more support? I think so. Being able to justify HD development as hitting "three" platforms (although usually just two, PS3 and 360) allowed pubs to sidestep the Wii  and justify it.

The other factors at play of course were the Wii being weak and Nintendo's history with third parties.

But would any of that matter if there was only one other kid on the block? It didn't seem to during the SNES/Genesis days, where Nintendo arguably treated third parties the worst in their history (maybe N64 takes that crown.)

Or for a more recent example, look at the recent handheld wars. Two systems. Both the PSP and DS got some pretty great third party games despite the large power gap.

I don't know, I'm thinking out loud. There probably would have been other problems.

I highly doubt it would have gotten more support even if one bowed out.

They would just do it for 360 and that would truly become the PS2 software wise.
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« Reply #1337 on: August 27, 2012, 10:39:52 PM »
I highly doubt it would have gotten more support even if one bowed out.

They would just do it for 360 and that would truly become the PS2 software wise.

I doubt a home console will sell PS2 levels ever again. I mean, it isn't a home console but DS still hasn't done it. Wii probably got as close as anyone ever will again.

I think we would have ended up with a PSP/DS situation if one of them weren't in the race anymore.

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« Reply #1338 on: August 28, 2012, 01:43:28 AM »
I doubt a home console will sell PS2 levels ever again. I mean, it isn't a home console but DS still hasn't done it. Wii probably got as close as anyone ever will again.
I don't know about that. The total number of sold home consoles went up this generation and people aren't going to be able to play Madden or Call of Duty on their smartphones anytime soon. If one of the next-gen consoles bombs, I think it's possible that one of the other two might make it to 150 million LTD. The total market should still be growing.

PlayStation 2 - 153.86 million
Xbox - 24 million
Nintendo GameCube - 21.74 million
Total sixth generation home consoles - 199.6 million

Wii - 96.56 million
Xbox 360 - 68.3 million
PlayStation 3 - 63.9 million
Total seventh generation home consoles - 228.79 million

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1339 on: August 28, 2012, 01:56:28 AM »
This generation is also going on 2-3 years longer than the last one, and add another year to that by the time PS4/720 hit. I have no doubt the generations will keep getting longer, though.

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« Reply #1340 on: August 28, 2012, 02:03:35 AM »
Yeah, I think you can discount a lot of those wii sales too, as they were made to people who aren't really video game enthusiasts even to the degree of being a casual gamer.  I'd subtract 35 million; Nintendo finishes in last place again. :(
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« Reply #1341 on: August 28, 2012, 02:17:21 AM »
Yeah, I think you can discount a lot of those wii sales too, as they were made to people who aren't really video game enthusiasts even to the degree of being a casual gamer.  I'd subtract 35 million; Nintendo finishes in last place again. :(

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« Reply #1342 on: August 28, 2012, 04:10:15 AM »
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Most example Dolphin games look better than early 360 titles IMO.

and how do early 360 games look running on super high end PC GPUs with 16xFSAA , post processing, and overscanning to 4K resolutions?

This is just such a cul de sac of an argument - i just don't see what Nthings get out of it. "If the Wii was actually a super powerful PC with a massive GPU just LOOK at how good the games would look! They'd be like first gen X360 games!!" - err.... okay!

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1343 on: August 28, 2012, 04:12:39 AM »
Powerful system specs are important for more than just visual fidelity, nfaggots. Jesus fucking christ.
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« Reply #1344 on: August 28, 2012, 05:01:00 AM »
I guess you could compare the emulated Wii screenshots with something like the PC version of The Last Remnant. It looks really good in motion and it's 60 frames per second. It's also a way superior game to Final Fantasy XII.

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« Reply #1345 on: August 28, 2012, 05:08:13 AM »
Powerful system specs are important for more than just visual fidelity, nfaggots. Jesus fucking christ.

I dunno.  Good physics, yeah.  But there hasnt been a game that has the scope Xenoblade Chronicles AFAIK.  Ironic that most of the 3d physics games have been on the wii this gen.

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« Reply #1346 on: August 28, 2012, 05:34:09 AM »
I really don't understand why ninthings are so fixated on resolution,resolution just gives you the ability to notice more detail but that detail has to be there in the first place.
Low res=dirty glasses
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« Reply #1347 on: August 28, 2012, 06:27:14 AM »
maxy, i'd bet it's because they're just recycling the talking points feggits like you made at the beginning of this generation

borys, that's a pretty wild prediction, are you sure you want to go out on such a limb?

Wrong again.
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« Reply #1348 on: August 28, 2012, 06:47:59 AM »
I've seen plenty of interesting pictures too :D
Reality can be deceiving though,but then again what is reality?
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« Reply #1349 on: August 28, 2012, 06:58:00 AM »
some chemical disorder
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« Reply #1350 on: August 28, 2012, 07:06:01 AM »
yeah
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« Reply #1351 on: August 28, 2012, 09:27:39 AM »
This is like that Louis C.K Joke where his kid talks so much crap that the convo ends up being some existentialist examination of reality.
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« Reply #1352 on: August 28, 2012, 10:03:38 AM »
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Most example Dolphin games look better than early 360 titles IMO.

and how do early 360 games look running on super high end PC GPUs with 16xFSAA , post processing, and overscanning to 4K resolutions?

This is just such a cul de sac of an argument - i just don't see what Nthings get out of it. "If the Wii was actually a super powerful PC with a massive GPU just LOOK at how good the games would look! They'd be like first gen X360 games!!" - err.... okay!

That wasn't the point you dope, and you sort of just proved it. Resolution is the most noticeable aspect of a system's graphics. Open book, close book.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1353 on: August 28, 2012, 10:08:35 AM »
Can we just get back to talking about how crappy the Wii U is going to be, please? You guys are really bringing this thread down.
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« Reply #1354 on: August 28, 2012, 10:25:06 AM »
Smash should be pretty cool too.

Launch should be good. Rayman and Mario 2D platforming goodness will be great, especially four/five player mode when Christmas rolls around.

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« Reply #1355 on: August 28, 2012, 10:26:55 AM »
Shocking news, nintendo games will appeal to nintendo fans; it's almost like they planned it that way
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« Reply #1356 on: August 28, 2012, 10:28:46 AM »
I hope the next Zelda is good. :(

Give it to Koizumi, Aounuma!

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« Reply #1357 on: August 28, 2012, 10:33:30 AM »
I wonder what they're going to do with 3D Mario. Going to be really hard to top SMG1/2.

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« Reply #1358 on: August 28, 2012, 10:42:07 AM »
Only thing Nintendo (SEGA :bow) makes I care about is FZero really.

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« Reply #1359 on: August 28, 2012, 10:44:51 AM »
Only thing Nintendo (SEGA :bow) makes I care about is FZero really.

Makes? You mean made, right? The most recent F-Zero game came out for the bleeping Gameboy Advance for crissakes.  :'(
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« Reply #1360 on: August 28, 2012, 11:30:19 AM »
Jesus, what do we have left, Extreme G? :'(

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« Reply #1361 on: August 28, 2012, 11:38:02 AM »
Shut up Borys :'(

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« Reply #1362 on: August 28, 2012, 12:29:29 PM »
F-Zero is dead baby. F-Zero is dead.

Along WipeOut, Fatal Inertia, RollCage etc.

The futuristic racer is finally  dead  :'(

Jesus, what do we have left, Extreme G? :'(

They haven't made that shit in years so that's dead too

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« Reply #1363 on: August 28, 2012, 01:11:29 PM »
If Nintendo actually gave a shit (they don't), they should have bought out Studio Liverpool and have them make an F-Zero for WiiU. Sad to see the futuristic racer go the way of the dodo :( The racing genre in genre seems to be in a slump this gen, even though I did get Outrun XBLA, Daytona XBLA and Wipeout HD out of it.
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« Reply #1364 on: August 28, 2012, 01:26:54 PM »










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« Reply #1365 on: August 28, 2012, 01:38:44 PM »
I'd buy a Wii U so fast if an F-Zero game came out on it.

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« Reply #1366 on: August 28, 2012, 02:23:30 PM »
Everyone, shut up :'(

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« Reply #1367 on: August 28, 2012, 05:18:54 PM »
Prime 3 was a perfectly fine game, outside of having a few cutscenes that didn't add anything. Other M wasn't even good outside of the cutscenes.
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« Reply #1368 on: August 28, 2012, 05:34:12 PM »
Eh I wouldn't say a Nintendo franchise is dead just because a game hasn't come out in a while. Sleeping, maybe. All those games could come back at any time, as opposed to say WipeOut, where Sony would have a hard time reformatting an existing studio to make it.

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« Reply #1369 on: August 28, 2012, 05:37:55 PM »
Eh I wouldn't say a Nintendo franchise is dead just because a game hasn't come out in a while. Sleeping, maybe. All those games could come back at any time, as opposed to say WipeOut, where Sony would have a hard time reformatting an existing studio to make it.
Long sleeping IP needs new dev teams, it's the same as the case for WipeOut.

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« Reply #1370 on: August 28, 2012, 05:50:52 PM »
Wipeout HD is better then anything Nintendo made this gen though. Even if its dead.

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« Reply #1371 on: August 28, 2012, 06:14:43 PM »
WipEout will probably see a new entry before F-Zero does.

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« Reply #1372 on: August 28, 2012, 07:35:27 PM »
i heard recently that full complete -dead- franchise entries were presented to Iwata and co and were rejected on their overall quality.

I also heard one tale recently that made me completely reevaluate my opinion of Miyamoto from "That bumbling tit who made some good games once but now is a senile old goon" to "jesus - that's bad ass. My hat is doffed in his general direction. Wow"

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« Reply #1373 on: August 28, 2012, 07:44:50 PM »
You better spill  :maf
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« Reply #1374 on: August 28, 2012, 07:45:26 PM »
 :lol :bow andrex will be crying over this post for years to come
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« Reply #1375 on: August 28, 2012, 07:49:50 PM »
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You better spill


the only tip-of-it i'll spill is he had a meet up with -someone- who made -a game- for Nintendo.
He then went on to rip all the bad points of the game appart and went incredibly specific about aspects of control, difficulty balancing etc.

What i've basically learned over the last few months: Iwata and Miyamoto are pretty hardcore about gameplay mechanics. Not in that "oh cute" twee way - as in angry/shouty/sort this shit out/this is garbage quality "nazi" levels.

Which , as loathed as i am to give Nintendo any credit (OBVIOUSLY!!!), i find increadibly uplifting. If they are prepared to can long term investments into -franchises of note- because they don't feel perfect? That makes me pop a boner.
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« Reply #1376 on: August 28, 2012, 07:52:48 PM »
I think they must be pretty one-eyed about that stuff though - Kid Icarus and Skyward Sword can be bad-bad, not just nintendo-bad.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1377 on: August 28, 2012, 08:03:46 PM »
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I think they must be pretty one-eyed about that stuff though - Kid Icarus and Skyward Sword can be bad-bad, not just nintendo-bad.

i had no issues with KI, Skyward Sword though should have resulted in whoever was handling Dialogue Editing from being swung from a bridge.

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They greenlit WII MUSIC.

Magic Miyamoto-sama has a veto though - doesn't count. HIGH STANDARDS apply to -other people- not the Kingmakers.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1378 on: August 28, 2012, 08:05:52 PM »
I think the current agitprop is that Nintendo is going back to the basics with the Wii U.  Of course, this isn't the first time they've said this and the last time Nintendo "learned their lesson," they said online was a fad and presented Zelda Four Swords as a legitimate alternative with a straight face.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1379 on: August 28, 2012, 08:23:34 PM »
That Shiggy story is pretty badass but it makes me wonder how Twilight Princess got released.
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