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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1560 on: September 08, 2012, 09:58:47 PM »
So...

Anyone here buying this at launch?




no, i owned a 360

Translation: I will buy at least two (see: PSP Go)
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« Reply #1561 on: September 08, 2012, 10:06:37 PM »
Man, You totally called it !

:lol I don't understand what you're making fun of me for.

if you hate them that much why not piss in their gas tanks? It would be cheaper.

I wanted to get them a Wii all this year cause we all had a ton of fun playing mine while I was still at home, but I've held off since Wii U is backwards compatible.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1562 on: September 08, 2012, 10:06:40 PM »
So...

Anyone here buying this at launch?




no, i owned a 360

Translation: I will buy at least two (see: PSP Go)

Please - do not sully the name of the PSP Go. It's a magical device. Owning two should be mandatory


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I wanted to get them a Wii all this year cause we all had a ton of fun playing mine while I was still at home, but I've held off since Wii U is backwards compatible

If they all still live at home isn't it better to buy one machine with two pads (if it supports?) and the controllers? The whole point of the machine is to be a one-house focal/social point which, i assume, means multiple logins and a focus on local multiplayer games. So having three in one house? I guess if they all want to play Mario on their own pads in bed then that's a factor.
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« Reply #1563 on: September 08, 2012, 10:12:59 PM »
Nah, in the past year both me and my older sis moved out, so only my younger sister is still there. Three Wii U's for three residences.

Lol I wouldn't buy one for each them if we all still lived there.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1564 on: September 09, 2012, 12:46:05 AM »
Nah.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1565 on: September 09, 2012, 09:06:01 AM »
So...

Anyone here buying this at launch?



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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1566 on: September 09, 2012, 09:17:43 AM »
So...

Anyone here buying this at launch?

With my immense X360 backlog, I can skip buying anything for years. But being rich can be a curse sometimes.

Nope, not waiting in line and since most of the remotely interesting titles are "launch window" games, it doesn't seem worth it.  I'll take a wait and see approach, especially to see how the software front will look once the real next gen consoles come out.  Steam is kicking a lot of ass and between that, PCSX2, Dolphin, PS3 (there's about two dozen titles I want to play for it but haven't got around to them yet), 3DS, iOS, MAME, etc.  there may not be enough free time to really bother with any of the next gen consoles, let alone the Wii U.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1567 on: September 09, 2012, 05:35:57 PM »
a line for wii u  :lol

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1568 on: September 09, 2012, 06:40:13 PM »
Wii U will probably sell more than ps4 and xshit 3 at launch but it will still be crap like the wii.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1569 on: September 09, 2012, 07:04:48 PM »
360 will outsell the WiiU in December
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1570 on: September 09, 2012, 09:53:57 PM »
People lined up for the 360 coming off something that barely outsold the fucking gamecube.  WiiU's initial sales aren't a concern compared to the spectre of its dubious future software situation.
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« Reply #1571 on: September 09, 2012, 09:58:53 PM »
And what a dubious future it is  :heart
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« Reply #1572 on: September 09, 2012, 10:15:00 PM »
Anyone else think it's ridiculous how we're supposedly two months-ish from launch and there's no official word regarding the actual date or price? Make me suspicious that all in not well in N land but I don't recall how far ahead they've announced previous launches...
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« Reply #1573 on: September 09, 2012, 10:20:18 PM »
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« Reply #1574 on: September 09, 2012, 11:18:15 PM »
Anyone else think it's ridiculous how we're supposedly two months-ish from launch and there's no official word regarding the actual date or price? Make me suspicious that all in not well in N land but I don't recall how far ahead they've announced previous launches...

They announced the Wii's release date and price on September 14, 2006, about two months ahead of the November 19 launch. Nintendo has an event scheduled on like the 15 or something this month, so we'll get the date and price then.

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« Reply #1575 on: September 10, 2012, 12:06:03 AM »
Kind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[
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« Reply #1576 on: September 10, 2012, 12:34:58 AM »
Kind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[

You're looking for excuses to be negative. :P

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1577 on: September 10, 2012, 12:48:40 AM »
Kind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[

You're looking for excuses to be negative. :P

I'm not so sure we need to look too hard in this case
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1578 on: September 10, 2012, 12:53:18 AM »
KEEP HOPE ALIVE DAMNIT

Hey at least the rumored prices are some good news, eh.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1579 on: September 10, 2012, 01:06:18 AM »
Even Nintendo knows it can't get away with charging too much for 5 year old tech :teehee
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« Reply #1580 on: September 10, 2012, 01:13:58 AM »
Even Nintendo knows it can't get away with charging too much for 5 year old tech :teehee

You can't charge too much for any kind of tech, no matter how bleeding edge. As the Vita aptly demonstrates. :smug

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1581 on: September 10, 2012, 01:20:45 AM »
There's a sweet spot.  The problem with the hand held market is that there's no demand for that sort of product.  Parents want something to get their kids to stfu when they're trapped in a car with them or whatever, and you have an entire generation of stunted manchildren who are conditioned to purchasing Nintendo handhelds no matter what.  Sony could have priced it at $100 less and it probably wouldn't have done exceptionally better because you fucktards couldn't catch your pokemans on a Vita.
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« Reply #1582 on: September 10, 2012, 01:33:20 AM »
We can't catch them on 3DS either, yet. :( But backwards compatibility kind of makes that a non-issue.

I agree with Oscar Sony made the right move in not going forward with UMD, but I also think it would have been a big boon if Sony didn't have to send mixed messages in the PSP's twilight years. "Based on their libraries, why would I get a Vita when I can get a PSP?" wouldn't even need to be asked if Vita was backwards compatible.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1583 on: September 10, 2012, 02:36:53 AM »
The former Wii masses have moved on to tablets and smartphones and social gaming. Can't capture that lightning in a bottle again. The market is largely back to where it was in 2004.

Which is convenient since they're targeting 2006 tech.
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« Reply #1584 on: September 10, 2012, 03:04:07 AM »
I think at $100 less the Vita would be doing 2-3x better than it is now, but Creepy Old Guy is right (if we cut around some of the language he uses due to be diddled by Shigsy when he was a child): there's no audience for the Vita in North America.  We don't even need to include the "manchildren" here, because they're such a small slice of the pie in NA they're almost insignificant.  Handheld gaming hardware in NA has almost exclusively been the province of children.  The PSP and the DS were both good at hitting demographics outside that, but neither the adolescent to adult male gamer of the PSP nor the soccer mom/elderly demo of the DS proved to yield much in the way of consistent long-term fruit.

That made it extremely baffling to me when Sony opted to target the same group again with the Vita.  I really don't know what they were expecting to happen there.

The WiiU baffles me to a similar extent.  We've seen with the Wii that the expanded audience Nintendo successfully courted with the Wii didn't really stick it out for the long haul, though they certainly proved lucrative while they were there.  You could say Nintendo would be happy if the exact same situation as the Wii happened again, and I'd agree, but the problem is that Nintendo isn't targeting a fresh new audience with the WiiU - rather, they seem to be doubling down on the latter years of the Wii, which is to say, the Nintendo faithful and the largely disinterested people they pulled in with Wii Sports and Wii Fit.  I don't see how that's a viable plan at all, outside Japan, where the Nintendo faithful can hold up the entire island in the event it's necessary.

I really think Nintendo is targeting the 360 audience. I mean, you can laugh at it, but it is what it is. I mean, look at the Pro Controller. They're throwing out Nintendo Land but they're not really pushing it like they expect it to be Wii Sports take two. A lot of their focus is on PS360 ports.

I'd say in general, Nintendo knows they've lost the casuals, and casual gaming hasn't been a big focus of their presentation terminology for several years. Appealing to nostalgia and catering to other system owners has been, though. Part wishful thinking, but Nintendo has probably come around to the fact that their fans and hardcore players are the more stable profit pool. They're biting the bullet halfway with the Wii U now in order to take advantage of that in the future. The Wii U might be less supported  than the others, but if it gets third parties to at least pay attention enough to port their games, Nintendo will probably be happy with that. From there, they're in a good position going into next-next gen.

With the Wii, they didn't have anything to lose. Third parties were barely giving them the time of day anyways, and they had a big opportunity to snap up this completely untapped market, so they took it. With Wii U, now they need to get back in the graces of third parties.

It's likely to prove to be somewhat of a mistake, but then again, who knows? Microsoft could blow it next gen and it doesn't seem like Sony would be able to capitalize on that if given the chance, which leaves Nintendo. Microsoft's now chasing the same casual gamers that made the Wii a success, and they've grabbed some of them with the Kinect. They might continue down that road. Unlikely, but possible.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1585 on: September 10, 2012, 03:11:52 AM »
But if they were really targeting the 360 audience, they wouldn't have specced their machine at current generation levels.  360 owners have absolutely no need whatsoever for a 360+.

When I said targeting the 360 audience, I meant literally. Maybe prospective audience would have been a better term.

I don't claim to understand Nintendo's moves, but they really do seem keen on PS360 ports now and most talk of "casual/core" has been done away with.

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« Reply #1586 on: September 10, 2012, 06:16:30 AM »
When I said targeting the 360 audience, I meant literally. Maybe prospective audience would have been a better term.

There's very little prospective 360 audience at over $200 left. It's like releasing a tablet now and targeting iPad users.
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« Reply #1587 on: September 10, 2012, 06:37:47 AM »
Dreamcast targeting PS1 future audience(ports) in hope for PS2 ports.

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« Reply #1588 on: September 10, 2012, 07:22:25 AM »
Nintendo is just trying to strike oil but this time with a touchscreen instead of motion controls.  They don't care if the Wii U ended up like the Wii in the end, they just want those three fiscal years of multibillion dollar profit margins.  I don't know what game Nintendo has in mind to do that and if they can't, then they're fucked.  The Gamecube was what happened when all there was to play was Nintendo games and they got about 20 million Gamecube sales?  Unless they can create some pop culture phenomenon, 20 million is right where I see the Wii U.
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« Reply #1589 on: September 10, 2012, 10:09:50 AM »
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« Reply #1590 on: September 10, 2012, 10:15:28 AM »
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1591 on: September 10, 2012, 10:21:22 AM »
Wii U Unveiling confirmed for Thursday, September 13 at 9:30am EST.


When I said targeting the 360 audience, I meant literally. Maybe prospective audience would have been a better term.

There's very little prospective 360 audience at over $200 left. It's like releasing a tablet now and targeting iPad users.

Microsoft. :teehee

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« Reply #1592 on: September 10, 2012, 10:23:36 AM »
Nintendo is just trying to strike oil but this time with a touchscreen instead of motion controls.  They don't care if the Wii U ended up like the Wii in the end, they just want those three fiscal years of multibillion dollar profit margins.  I don't know what game Nintendo has in mind to do that and if they can't, then they're fucked.  The Gamecube was what happened when all there was to play was Nintendo games and they got about 20 million Gamecube sales?  Unless they can create some pop culture phenomenon, 20 million is right where I see the Wii U.

I'd be far more generous. If Nintendo started seeing GameCube-like sales they'd hit the panic button faster than they did for the 3DS. The Wii U is also coming off the success of the Wii, which has similarly been something of a crutch for 3DS (coming off the DS.) Nintendo won't let this thing sell less than 35 million, I'd wager.

I mean, the PS3 floundered for several years after launch, which is typically the most important part of a console's life, and they've managed to net more than 60 million in sales when all is said and done.

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« Reply #1593 on: September 10, 2012, 11:00:16 AM »
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Nailed it.

Wii was the same exact way: lots of potential, but the genres wii would have been great for got snubbed, namely rail shooters (oh, we got SP2, but that's IT, not even a new Panzer Dragoon), or goddamn revivals of arcade classics like Point Blank. Instead, we get shitty games like SSX Blur where you have to draw hearts in order to pull off ubers, and other inane bullshit, rather than sticking to the systems strengths.

Wii fucking sucked.
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« Reply #1594 on: September 10, 2012, 11:26:18 AM »
One of the few games that really played to the Wii's strengths was Boom Blox.
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« Reply #1595 on: September 10, 2012, 11:47:03 AM »
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I mean, the PS3 floundered for several years after launch, which is typically the most important part of a console's life, and they've managed to net more than 60 million in sales when all is said and done.

yes, but the PS3 had the advantage of being half of the HD twins - once people go their heads around the technical difficulties then ports across from X360 (and vice versa) became easier. Throw in some interesting first party titles and Bluray playback they still had a machine that was technically proficient.

The Wii U is walking into a brick fucking wall. It's -sort of- an X360, it's sort of a Wii, it's -sort of- an Ipad (with not multitouch) - it's everything that's on the way OUT of this gen (ipad itself obviously not, but a single touch pad ... ?) where as the PS3 was still, in relation to what was out at the time, was still technically up there. The Wii was a phenomenon - and i don't see lightning striking twice on this one.

This , basically, sums up why Nintendo are fucked :

"The delay will depend on how many posts are created and how many people Nintendo has working to moderate the message. “But personally, I think 30 minutes should be acceptable,” Iwata said."



I don't know who this machine is for outside Nintendo fans. I don't see who else this is going to appeal to.
Perhaps theres some killer app game just sitting in the wings or something.
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« Reply #1596 on: September 10, 2012, 12:03:20 PM »
That's certainly what it seems like at this point. I stand by my statement though, Nintendo won't let this thing sell less than 35 million. Hardly a success but it could still be very profitable for them, and most importantly, it puts them back on third parties' radars and modernizes their online network.

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« Reply #1597 on: September 10, 2012, 12:12:26 PM »
That's certainly what it seems like at this point. I stand by my statement though, Nintendo won't let this thing sell less than 35 million. Hardly a success but it could still be very profitable for them, and most importantly, it puts them back on third parties' radars and modernizes their online network.

if they are starting from a point of 30 minute delays for messages/posts then i think the modernization is going to be a painful period for them to realise what does and doesn't work.

The big risk for Nintendo if they get the pricing wrong and if MS/PS3 slash their machines to line up with the launch. Then i'm not sure what Nintendo can do - they cut the price on the Wii U as quickly as they did with the 3DS? Won't everyone who got burnt on the original 3DS wait and see what happens if it's $249?
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« Reply #1598 on: September 10, 2012, 12:34:02 PM »
That's certainly what it seems like at this point. I stand by my statement though, Nintendo won't let this thing sell less than 35 million. Hardly a success but it could still be very profitable for them, and most importantly, it puts them back on third parties' radars and modernizes their online network.

if they are starting from a point of 30 minute delays for messages/posts then i think the modernization is going to be a painful period for them to realise what does and doesn't work.

The big risk for Nintendo if they get the pricing wrong and if MS/PS3 slash their machines to line up with the launch. Then i'm not sure what Nintendo can do - they cut the price on the Wii U as quickly as they did with the 3DS? Won't everyone who got burnt on the original 3DS wait and see what happens if it's $249?

I think the expectations are different for consoles, which I feel have been more stable price-wise (feel free to correct if wrong.) But aside from price, handhelds get new colors, new revisions, etc., all the time. People expect a bit of uncertainty when it comes to handhelds that isn't the case with home consoles (and whether that's grounded in reality, is up for debate.)

I don't think Nintendo is going to have to worry about MS/Sony cutting their prices, especially since the rumor is they're releasing at $250 (tard pack?) $250 is a fantastic price for a new home console, no matter the tech or what the competition offers (obviously, it isn't the only factor. Not nearly.) But price wise I think they're going to be in a very comfortable position; whatever sinks the Wii U, it won't be the price.

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« Reply #1599 on: September 10, 2012, 12:43:38 PM »
well, i think it's a combination of what it is -plus- the price and plus timing. $249 is the price i expect, $199 would be pretty killer, but not sure they can afford to run with it that low.

People are ready for a new machine - i'm just not convinced that the Wii U is going to represent anything too new to anyone who already bought into HD. Again, outside Nintendo fans, those who aren't in on "next gen" probably won't look at a $249 investment if there's a (good forbid for Nintendo) $99 X360/PS3 alternative (i doubt they'd go that low yet)

In Japan it's not going to matter - Nintendo will do fine, but in the US/UK i think they're going to struggle.
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« Reply #1600 on: September 10, 2012, 12:51:01 PM »
Sony's already gearing up for a lower-cost counter machine, with their focus on remote play and DLC for PS3 for games which use the Vita as a controller. I firmly believe that once the budget PS3 redesign hits they're gonna pack it up with a Vita and sell it as a bundle.

But I still think Wii U is gonna have a decent first couple of years, it'll take that long for things to really get cranking on the next-gen machines.
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« Reply #1601 on: September 10, 2012, 01:28:26 PM »
No self respecting (future)xbot will buy WiiU even for $50.What is the point?

If WiiU had GTA5 as exclusive,that would shift the balance.But for some crummy ports?

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« Reply #1602 on: September 10, 2012, 01:43:07 PM »
Kind of thought as much but wasn't entirely sure. :-[

You're looking for excuses to be negative. :P
I can't remember every detail about a company that continues to be less and less worth caring about. :P
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« Reply #1604 on: September 10, 2012, 10:59:07 PM »
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« Reply #1605 on: September 11, 2012, 12:13:01 AM »
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« Reply #1606 on: September 11, 2012, 12:29:43 AM »
I mean, obviously Nintendo Land looks cheap as hell, but so did Wii Sports. *shrug*

I'm not buying it, but I'd check it out if it's a pack in. It's barely interesting though.

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« Reply #1607 on: September 11, 2012, 12:52:41 AM »
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I mean, obviously Nintendo Land looks cheap as hell, but so did Wii Sports. *shrug*

I'm not buying it, but I'd check it out if it's a pack in. It's barely interesting though.

Wii Sports was a work of genius - you could show it to anyone and , not only would they be instantly able to control the game, they'd be having fun and would immediately understand the whole purpose of the Wii and what it was for. It was also like showing people not that interested in tech something that was borderline magic. It was the uniqie selling point that won over millions. *broken record here but* The Wii U's unique feature is seemingly a combination of what everyone else has done, but done (arguably) worse.

Again, the Wii U needs to have a similar killer app that distinguishes it from the ipad/X360 etc and i can't for the life of me think what it would be. Nintendoland sure as feck isn't it.

Actually - no joke - online Bingo - with real cash prizes. That might work and pull in the Blue Rinse gamers.
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« Reply #1608 on: September 11, 2012, 08:29:23 AM »
okay - i think Nthings are huffing Nintendo cock glue

people who SHOULD KNOW BETTER are throwing their dirty man-milt over... this....

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/41698/12-new-super-mario-bros-u-screenshots/

LOOKS INCREDIBLE, LOOKS AMAZING, OMG! 2D NEVER LOOKED SO GOOD....


.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's completely within Gamecube capabilities.

The emperors new fucking clothes. Total.
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« Reply #1609 on: September 11, 2012, 08:36:25 AM »
The whole about-face on HD from Nthings : This is like getting into the Beatles just as Mark Chapman puts a bullet into John.

Again, people who should know better are just coming across as ill informed. I love Ferricide to bits but he's already on Facebook going on about Wii U HD being good enough and, despite having seen NOTHING (possibly something) of Next gen Xbox/Ps4 has already declared he's not interested in what they have to offer.

It's just fucking stupid. "I want progress - but only to the level Nintendo have green lit." - that's how i'm going to judge these sort of statements. Anyone invoking "but think of the profits" gets a cock in the mouf.

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« Reply #1610 on: September 11, 2012, 08:50:16 AM »
Apparently WiiU is confirmed(by Nintendo) for EU this year.
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« Reply #1611 on: September 11, 2012, 08:55:48 AM »
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My boss went to e3. He is a complete non-gamer, but has some young daughters. His response on the Wii U was "looks like a giant DS, it's not very interesting".
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1612 on: September 11, 2012, 09:03:31 AM »
Is the "streaming the entire game to the controller" feature an optional thing for developers? I may have misread this, but I'd swear I read somewhere recently where it won't work for every game.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1613 on: September 11, 2012, 09:28:02 AM »
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Is the "streaming the entire game to the controller" feature an optional thing for developers? I may have misread this, but I'd swear I read somewhere recently where it won't work for every game.

this is going to be nintendo's "Trannysfarring surprise"

bu bu bu they never SAID it would work with EVERY game! No one expected it to.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1614 on: September 11, 2012, 09:34:17 AM »
Is the "streaming the entire game to the controller" feature an optional thing for developers? I may have misread this, but I'd swear I read somewhere recently where it won't work for every game.

You mean as in, you can play the full game without the TV on? That's definitely optional, since some games are obviously going to be using both screens in conjunction
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1615 on: September 11, 2012, 09:38:05 AM »
Yeah, that's what I meant. I realize that certain games just aren't going to be mechanically possible, but if it's optional for every game it isn't gonna be used much, even for just straight portovers with the barest of tablet functionality. No one's gonna really bother. That's kind of a bummer, as it's one of the few things which interest me about the console.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1616 on: September 11, 2012, 09:46:31 AM »
Well. If it's made easy enough to implement, I guess it would be kinda dumb to overlook since it is a pretty big USP of the system... But I agree, we're probably going to see lazy-ass ports skip it. hehe
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1617 on: September 11, 2012, 10:00:43 AM »
This will end up worse than DS in terms of two screens usage.

I bet people will be confused at what screen to look at.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1618 on: September 11, 2012, 10:02:46 AM »
Again, people who should know better are just coming across as ill informed. I love Ferricide to bits but he's already on Facebook going on about Wii U HD being good enough and, despite having seen NOTHING (possibly something) of Next gen Xbox/Ps4 has already declared he's not interested in what they have to offer.

Whether or not I think they're full of it depends entirely on the amount of enthusiasm I see. I don't necessarily think they're anything particularly wrong with declaring the Wii U good enough if the mindset is just one of conceding that -- despite the reluctance to stick with the old shit that worked -- eventually even the most curmudgeonly have to upgrade. Given that it's 2012, HD (or at least pseudo HD) resolutions are becoming more necessary for people who don't have awful vision as SD TVs disappear completely and HD TVs get bigger and bigger. So, in the sense that you concede that it's just a completely necessary evolution undeserving of praise, accepting the Wii U I think is fine.

However, I agree that a lot of people are just doing the usual cheerleading and spinning pure nonsense as yet more brilliant pragmatism from the geniuses at Nintendo. Preemptively deciding that the next Xbox and Playstation systems are going to be too powerful is a pretty good indication that you're not to be taken seriously in terms of objectively assessing the technical merits of hardware.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1619 on: September 11, 2012, 10:18:44 AM »
okay - i think Nthings are huffing Nintendo cock glue

people who SHOULD KNOW BETTER are throwing their dirty man-milt over... this....

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/41698/12-new-super-mario-bros-u-screenshots/

LOOKS INCREDIBLE, LOOKS AMAZING, OMG! 2D NEVER LOOKED SO GOOD....


.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's completely within Gamecube capabilities.

The emperors new fucking clothes. Total.

It looks nice. At least as nice as Super Mario World, a conclusion I myself am surprised with since I love how that game looks and never cared for the New series aesthetics (outside a "it's nice because it's colorful and consistent" way.)



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But apparently some people hated how SMW looked, so for them NSMB U isn't any better off. *shrugs*

A game doesn't have to be Uncharted levels of detail for it to look good. (Good is different from, say, "great," which Rayman falls under.)

Edit- Also those screens have absolutely heinous JPG compression, I don't know how an official Nintendo magazine saw fit to release them in that state.

The whole about-face on HD from Nthings : This is like getting into the Beatles just as Mark Chapman puts a bullet into John.

Again, people who should know better are just coming across as ill informed. I love Ferricide to bits but he's already on Facebook going on about Wii U HD being good enough and, despite having seen NOTHING (possibly something) of Next gen Xbox/Ps4 has already declared he's not interested in what they have to offer.

It's just fucking stupid. "I want progress - but only to the level Nintendo have green lit." - that's how i'm going to judge these sort of statements. Anyone invoking "but think of the profits" gets a cock in the mouf.

I think we've been over this before, but would you expect them to say they don't want HD, even if Nintendo were offering it? Which is the more sane thing for an insane person to say, in your eyes?

Well. If it's made easy enough to implement, I guess it would be kinda dumb to overlook since it is a pretty big USP of the system... But I agree, we're probably going to see lazy-ass ports skip it. hehe

I think the ports will be more likely to include it, since they won't be using both screens in tandem for anything critical usually.
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