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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1680 on: September 12, 2012, 02:23:58 AM »
Andrex i think you are wrong regarding the tech of the WiiU, they made it so that the console is in line with the 360 and not much more.  So imo it is 2006 tech at best.

I was going off what Drinky said, with regards to the shader model being 2009-ish. The RAM is also a bit more than 2006, although it's hard to say "when" it is. Maybe if we extrapolate if the 360 had waited X number of years, when it would have launched with 1 GB. Probably 2007 or 2008.

The CPU is the weak link and honestly, 2006 may be generous for it, I don't know.

It depends on your definition of "not much more." It isn't a ton, but the GPU and RAM are notably further than the 360. Who knows with next gen.

He's going to be batshit insane on Thursday :smug

Why? They're announcing the price, date, and reportedly, some 2013 games. Why would I go insane? Unless a cool new game were announced then...

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1681 on: September 12, 2012, 03:48:29 AM »


:lol like wii u could run this.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1682 on: September 12, 2012, 04:22:43 AM »


:lol like wii u could run this.

The AA is a bit unbelievable but otherwise it looks worse than the Zelda demo from last E3. Maybe some nicer geometry, but that isn't what the Wii U will have a problem with.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1683 on: September 12, 2012, 04:44:28 AM »
Agree with Andrex - doesn't look like something the X360/PS3 would have an issue with so Wii U could surely do it

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depends on your definition of "not much more." It isn't a ton, but the GPU and RAM are notably further than the 360. Who knows with next gen.

Everyone except Nintendo fans, apparently?

I've seen so much horrific shit today i don't know where to start. My favourite is (paraphrase) "Guys, Dx10.1 cards can do Dx11.1 effects and , in somecases, do them better"

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1684 on: September 12, 2012, 04:57:02 AM »
So a Wii U thread is my most successful thread on The Bore.

Figures.

I blame general boredom and Andrex sticking to his position no matter what.

Tomorrow will be fun
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1685 on: September 12, 2012, 04:59:14 AM »



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Tomorrow will be fun

ANDREX TOTALLY CALLED ONE OF TOMORROWS GAMES*


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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1686 on: September 12, 2012, 05:13:21 AM »
WiiU: The bore tells all.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1687 on: September 12, 2012, 05:57:41 AM »
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Tomorrow will be fun

ANDREX TOTALLY CALLED ONE OF TOMORROWS GAMES*


* DOESNT TRUST SOURCE**

** REMIND ME TO BRAG IF TRUE!!!

Ohohohoh, like you'd know~

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1688 on: September 12, 2012, 06:56:46 AM »
This is why trolling people is no fun : i already know.

Whether you believe that or not : i don't care. But feel free to "call it" on your board based on what i don't know ;)
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1689 on: September 12, 2012, 07:13:30 AM »
my favorite andrex posts are the ones where you can feel his seething jealousy towards industry insiders that crush him with info that he cant access

No wonder why most of the "industry insiders" on GAF that turn out to be full of shit (ShockingAlberto, Johnny Nightfraud, IdeaMan, etc.) are in the Nintendo camp.  Is it that fanboys of other stripes have better things to do?  Or is that people are so desperate to believe that the next Nintendo console isn't severely outdated junk (yet deep in their minds they know it is) that they will buy obvious lines of bullshit to continue living in that fantasy land?
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1690 on: September 12, 2012, 07:42:07 AM »
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ShockingAlberto

i was reading a post where he was going on about Monster Hunter and the US strategy from a -board room- level that he'd heard, something about "didn't meet the targets, had higher expectations"

once you start talking about what you are apparently hearing - at least third hand- from boardrooms, it's time to spam the "BULLSHIT" button.

Andrex is like thebore pet project, there's a full on Borean in there trying to get out. He's lovable too.
In a year or so's time he'll be properly full of venom and spitting like a cobra at people - it's natures way.

Criminal Ntent : if i was an Nthing i'd be winding up the other side about how lazy developers will be using our machine as the baseline for next gen because they are so lazy. ;) (it's not true, but you know... lighting fires and all that)

p.s. IS tomorrow finally the day everyone*/** becomes a Monster Hunter fan?

* - nthings.
** - Sthings pretend the series has run it's course anyways/wait for Vita version

btw : A free punch in the knickers for every person who says anything about Monster Hunter being like Pokemon.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1691 on: September 12, 2012, 07:50:38 AM »
yo congrats on catching up to 2006 here's a 3ds port


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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1692 on: September 12, 2012, 09:44:12 AM »
Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans.  Pokemans is at least fun.  :smug
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1693 on: September 12, 2012, 09:50:40 AM »
Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans.  Pokemans is at least fun.  :smug

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1694 on: September 12, 2012, 10:19:39 AM »


I ain't gonna lie, this looks pretty awesome.

I can't wait for the inevitable PC port. 

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1695 on: September 12, 2012, 10:36:04 AM »
Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans.  Pokemans is at least fun.  :smug


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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1696 on: September 12, 2012, 10:27:51 PM »
Damn at all these conferences  :lol

Lets see how this goes (if its actually 250 i would be interest would be piqued tbh)

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1697 on: September 12, 2012, 10:30:08 PM »
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Monster Hunter is nothing like Pokemans.  Pokemans is at least fun.


there's a horrible truth in here somewhere - the truth is that Monster hunter is NOT for everyone and i suspect (as previously stated) that a lot of people waiting for it are going to get half way through harvesting mushrooms at the start of the first 10 hours tutorial before throwing their arms up screaming "what IS this SHITE?!"

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1698 on: September 12, 2012, 10:56:45 PM »
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perhaps the same could be said of all games

it can , but there's a huge "bullshit" barrier that still exists with Monster Hunter that you need to burst through. The game basically falls into 5 segments :

1) Basics , farming, harvesting
2) scrub monsters, first boss character, item creation, weapon/armour, gems, drinks, food, etc
3) basic monster hunting , bosses, first ending, mild grinding
4) advance monster hunting, advanced tactics, top grinding
5) clean  up, end game, ultra grinding, rare drops

The problem is parts 1 and 2 will bore the shit out of people - it's painful the best of time, 3G is even more painful because it's too wordy. But as someone who has played through these games before there's nothing worse than being dumped back into 1+2 :/ for new players i can see getting bundled over by hogs whilst you try to pick up mushrooms might kill some peoples interest.


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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1699 on: September 12, 2012, 11:23:50 PM »
perhaps the same could be said of all games

but enough of that, have at andrex
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1700 on: September 12, 2012, 11:45:07 PM »
What is a Ninthing? A miserable little pile of whimzy.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1701 on: September 13, 2012, 01:09:12 AM »
Ninty's got four presentations lined up for today. A Japanese Nintendo Direct at 3am EST for launch info, then another at 10am with first and third party games. Also at 10am are the livestreamed Wii U presentation for America, and a Nintendo Direct in Europe, both presumably covering what the two Japanese ND's will.

:bow Shigster :bow2

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1702 on: September 13, 2012, 03:08:10 AM »
75w when running, 40w in sleep mode
25 GB discs, 22.5 MB/second
2 GB RAM: 1GB for OS, 1GB for games
Transfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1703 on: September 13, 2012, 03:09:57 AM »
TAKE MY MONEY NINTENDO!

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1704 on: September 13, 2012, 03:11:18 AM »
75w when running, 40w in sleep mode
25 GB discs, 22.5 MB/second
2 GB RAM: 1GB for OS, 1GB for games
Transfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1705 on: September 13, 2012, 03:13:07 AM »
Quote from: lastflowers;42057985
I like Nintendo Directs simply because I get to hear Iwata talk.  He has the most pleasant voice.  Don't really care at all about the WiiU, but his voice is really.....entrancing.

 :lol pathetic

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1706 on: September 13, 2012, 03:14:12 AM »
God these games look so cheap.

Mario U and Nintendoland.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1707 on: September 13, 2012, 03:14:54 AM »
TOO MANY CONTROLLERS

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1708 on: September 13, 2012, 03:15:23 AM »
TOO MANY STANDS

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« Reply #1709 on: September 13, 2012, 03:17:25 AM »
HOME PREMIUM

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1710 on: September 13, 2012, 03:20:25 AM »
Those prices :rofl
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1711 on: September 13, 2012, 03:20:32 AM »
$150~ for replacement Wii U pad
$350~ for non tard Wii U

How 'bout no?

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1712 on: September 13, 2012, 03:20:56 AM »
To think that 360 OS uses like 32mb of ram.

And Premium SKU = 31500 Japanese Yen while Basic = 26250 Japanese Yen.

December 8.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1713 on: September 13, 2012, 03:22:12 AM »
I guess NoA could eat some coin and go for $299 for the non tard version.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1714 on: September 13, 2012, 03:22:58 AM »
itll be 299 and 399

both ridiculous prices
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1715 on: September 13, 2012, 03:24:35 AM »
$150~ for replacement Wii U pad
$350~ for non tard Wii U

How 'bout no?

It's gonna be like 250/300 for America dood, unless they pack Nintendoland in which I hope they don't.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1716 on: September 13, 2012, 03:25:15 AM »
lol andrex you don't actually believe that do you
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1717 on: September 13, 2012, 03:25:42 AM »
TOO MANY STANDS

All the stand talk was fricking confusing. Apparently Nintendo Network Premium has nothing to do with online and just gives you the stands? ???

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1718 on: September 13, 2012, 03:25:58 AM »
I guess NoA could eat some coin and go for $299 for the non tard version.

It will be $299/$349 and you'll like it
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1719 on: September 13, 2012, 03:26:53 AM »
lol andrex you don't actually believe that do you

Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.

Guess we'll see in about 7 hours!

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1720 on: September 13, 2012, 03:27:27 AM »
they'd be eating a nasty bite on the exchange rate at those prices, andy.  it'll be 299/349 fer sure.

one good point is that it supports external hard drives.  i mean, i guess that's good, yeah?

Best part of the conference was VC titles being able to transfer over. Suck it doubters. :bow2

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1721 on: September 13, 2012, 03:28:31 AM »
Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.

Changing economic conditions, how do they work?
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1722 on: September 13, 2012, 03:30:19 AM »
Nintendo Network Premium seems to be included when you buy the Premium Set. 10% back on digital purchases until December 2014. Nothing to do otherwise with their online.

Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.

Changing economic conditions, how do they work?

Considering Nintendo's been eating it on exchange rates for a while, even they don't know!

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1723 on: September 13, 2012, 03:40:05 AM »
The OS thing has been a problem on all Japanese systems for a while now.  PS3 has struggled to do a lot of post-release things because they can't contain the OS in the ram allocated.  Vita has a large chunk of ram for the OS.  I wouldn't be surprised if PS4 dedicated near 1gig ram just for the OS. 

It's definitely a Japan thing unfortunately.  They could learn a lot from MS on OS overheads.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1724 on: September 13, 2012, 03:40:53 AM »
There is already a defense force for the Premium version supposedly aimed at "hardcore downloaders" having 32GB of storage ...

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1725 on: September 13, 2012, 03:42:13 AM »
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Wii U Basic - ¥26,250
-White
-8 GB SSD
-Wii U Console
-Wii U Gamepad
-Wii U AC Adapter
-Wii U Gamepad AC Adapter
-HDMI Cable

Wii U Premium - ¥31,500
-Black
-32 GB SSD
-includes Nintendo Premium
-Wii U Console
-Wii U Gamepad
-Wii U AC Adapter
-Wii U Gamepad AC Adapter
-HDMI Cable
-System Stand
-Gamepad Stand


SSD must be jacking up the price by at least 30~50 dollars.

Though some are saying it's a micro SD and not SSD.


It's a fucking flash memory confirmed.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1726 on: September 13, 2012, 03:43:08 AM »
The write speed is a nice surprise, PS3 can do like 9 MB/sec so it's a nice jump.

1 GB RAM for OS will resolve itself over time, I have a feeling they're giving themselves a lot of head room so they don't wind up with a PS3 and cross-game voicechat scenario. They might even reduce the overhead over time and free some up for developers, like Sony did for the PSP.

Because the high price I bet only like 5 games will ever use both GamePads. Maybe it'll be supported optionally by a couple, I guess. Maybe Nintendo did know best in that instance... hard to imagine a game in which it would be really beneficial, and streaming to three screens will really cut into what a game can do graphically.

:bow On the other hand, all hail the new Pro Controller overlords. :bow2
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1727 on: September 13, 2012, 03:45:55 AM »
It's nice to see they're including HDMI cables.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1728 on: September 13, 2012, 03:46:04 AM »
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Wii was 25,000 yen, we got it for $250 plus a pack-in game.

Guess we'll see in about 7 hours!

when the Wii launched it was around 111 yen to the $

right now, it's 79 yen to $ with many analysts talking about a 68 yen to $ horror scenario possible in the next 2 years.

I wouldn't hold onto the Wii pricing as a guideline - and if the Wii U -is- that price in the US vs the JPN price then, fuck it, importing it is!
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Considering Nintendo's been eating it on exchange rates for a while, even they don't know!

The big get out clause is to subsidise all this by setting a European price around the 350 Euro mark so everyone can laugh at them paying for everyone elses cheap goods.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1730 on: September 13, 2012, 03:48:47 AM »
Er why you guys complaining about memory.  You can use your external hardrives for it.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1731 on: September 13, 2012, 03:55:54 AM »
Kinda high pricing, no?

Both Apple and Nintendo disappointed with their unveilings.

Eh, the American event is still coming and that should feature some games to boot.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1732 on: September 13, 2012, 03:57:32 AM »
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Transfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games

no one clapped this right? I mean - this is a STANDARD function, the fact Nintendo have been fucking people royally on this for an age is the real disgrace.



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Eh, the American event is still coming and that should feature some games to boot.

rather than dance around it later, lets call it :

sub $249 (inclusive) - good price
above $249 to $299 - poor price
$299~ - suicide

Agreed?
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1733 on: September 13, 2012, 03:58:58 AM »
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Transfer supported for Wii Virtual Console and WiiWare games

no one clapped this right? I mean - this is a STANDARD function, the fact Nintendo have been fucking people royally on this for an age is the real disgrace.

How so? Do you mean no Wii -> Wii transfer?

Also, way to be negative on something positive!

rather than dance around it later, lets call it :

sub $249 (inclusive) - good price
above $249 to $299 - poor price
$299~ - suicide

Agreed?

Nah, let's not.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1734 on: September 13, 2012, 04:01:17 AM »
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If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces

it's basically an off hand acknowledgement as to which gen the Wii U belongs in - the fact the excuse is that two machines released in 2005/2006 had less space* (PS3 had more for the premium model, and the standard model vs the standard model wii U) is a glowing reference as to what machines the wii U is going up against.

but hey - i hear there's a new Nintendo maching coming in 4-5 years that will trounce the next gen. Seen a few posts already claiming that. You have to laugh.
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« Reply #1735 on: September 13, 2012, 04:02:04 AM »
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Nah, let's not.



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Also, way to be negative on something positive!

this is like thanking someone for not sticking razor wire up your anus for a change.
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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1736 on: September 13, 2012, 04:02:24 AM »
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces. 32GB is the most pathetic and "we don't get it" part of this announcement. I can't believe this is the premium model, good God.

Premium PS3 in 2006 had 60GB of memory.

Granted, Premium PS3 in 2006 was $599.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1737 on: September 13, 2012, 04:04:19 AM »
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces. 32GB is the most pathetic and "we don't get it" part of this announcement. I can't believe this is the premium model, good God.

As i said you can use your external hardrive for it.  How are people quickly forgettign that?

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1738 on: September 13, 2012, 04:05:54 AM »
If any of you say that 32GB is enough because Microsoft or Sony had less space in their systems when they started, I'll punch you in your stupid faces. 32GB is the most pathetic and "we don't get it" part of this announcement. I can't believe this is the premium model, good God.

As i said you can use your external hardrive for it.  How are people quickly forgettign that?

From my end, it's the fact that people on GAF are legitimately saying 32GB is enough for "heavy downloaders". Yeah, maybe if you're downloading NES roms.

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Re: Weeooooooo (Whimsy Wii U Thread)
« Reply #1739 on: September 13, 2012, 04:19:31 AM »
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Wii U GamePad: 13,440 yen.
Wii U Pro Controller (white, black): 5040 yen.

Wii U GamePad Charging Stand: 1,870 yen


Wii U GamePad: 13,440 yen.
Wii U GamePad: 13,440 yen.

Wii U GamePad: 13,440 yen.