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My nicca we agree again

[Himu]

Some random Miiverse pics from gaf which I find adorable:

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I send some of these to my 3ds friends and they never send one back. Nintendo online sucks.

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Chances of Nintendo making something semi ambitious as Pikmin again: 0%

Nah, that's bull.  They make stuff as ambitious or more than Pikmin all the time.

I guess it all depends on how "ambitious" you think Pikmin is/was

By console industry standards, I think it was reasonably ambitious, but not especially so.  New IP plus a genre with little in the way of prior success on consoles matched with an atypical setting and style for that genre, backed with a full budget.  If we're talking about big boy publishers, I think all of that together counts as ambitious.  It certainly wasn't safe or lazy.

But hey, I know some of you guys have special rules just for Nintendo, and it's virtually impossible to have any positive discussion about the company and/or their products here as a result.

Thats unfair, I think Mario Galaxy is generally accepted as one of the best games of the gen here no?

[Himu]

Mario Galaxy is probably a perfect game to me. It is a 10/10 game. But ambitious it is not. It is just literally the perfection of the 3d platformer genre going as far as the genre can aspire, but it's in no way ambitious.

[Great Rumbler]

Ambition and innovation are overrated, give me a fun game that I enjoy playing instead.

[Himu]

Yup. But to be fair, Galaxy IS kind of innovative to a point.

When you have an ice level, a fire level, ;etc all within the same stage due to the Galaxy stage system, you can pull off some nifty tricks and not adhere to established rules. When the setting is that of outer space and unknown planets, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

And that's why I think the next console 3d Mario will probably be a disappointment in comparison to Galaxy 1/2. The Galaxy games are probably over and I doubt that they'll tackle space as a setting again for Mario. After space, what else can Mario do? Nintendo blew their fucking load with those games.

I mean look at this shit

[Tasty]

I think it's useful to define "ambition," we could be talking about length of development, budget, design, graphics, the whole package, or any other criteria.

I don't really think you can say Galaxy is not ambitious. You can say it "perfects" 3D platforming, whatever that means, but achieving perfection (or attempting to achieve it) is about the most ambitious thing anyone can do.

As for the future of 3D Mario, it's likely going to be an evolution of 3D Land. They're getting the perfect level design and innovative gameplay mechanics/level gimmicks down to a formula at this point. 3D Land's problems, I feel, are the result of a much smaller budget and development timetable than either of the Galaxy games. But I think it's reasonable to say that the next console Mario will be back in the Mushroom Kingdom, just with space levels that will remind people of Galaxy superficially (whereas all the levels and mechanics will be evolutions of those found in Galaxy anyways.)

But who knows, they could surprise us.

[maxy]

Speaking of Pikmin

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/45206/pikmin-3-will-be-like-pikmin-1-miyamoto/

Miyamoto admitted that he didn't entirely agree with the decision to make the game less stressful for the player with Pikmin 2 which dropped the time limits that were placed on the player in the original GameCube title.

Asked if his team had to make some important decisions about the direction of Pikmin before they started development, Miyamoto said: "That's actually something that all the staff members had to debate over when we were discussing what kind of direction we should take for Pikmin 3. First of all by looking at Pikmin 1 we noticed that it wasn't a very easy game for people to play, and from time to time they had to feel some stress.

"Our main aim in Pikmin 2 was to get rid of any stress as much as possible, so that it would be very user-friendly. Well, I myself couldn't agree with that direction perfectly. That kind of nature of Pikmin 1 was exactly what I wanted to reproduce and I was actually intentionally doing so, so that Pikmin 1 could be a strategic game."


Miyamoto said that he wanted to get back to basics with Pikmin 3: "When we started creating Pikmin 3 I gathered the main members who worked on Pikmin 2 and talked about how I thought it was important to get back to the basics of Pikmin 1. Or I should say that half of my job at that time wasn't just to talk, but rather to persuade them to understand what I intended to do and to agree to my idea."

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Thats unfair, I think Mario Galaxy is generally accepted as one of the best games of the gen here no?

a black friend, you say?  well that changes everything

  Touche

[SantaC]

so got my Wii U today. The blue light is blinking and i am not getting any TV signal. So am I fucked?

[archnemesis]

Did you plug in the HDMI cable? Most of the configuration is done with the tablet. Is that also dead?

[Himu]

[Joe Molotov]

Lazy gamers, expecting their console to work out of the box.

[SantaC]

Did you plug in the HDMI cable? Most of the configuration is done with the tablet. Is that also dead?

yes of course I did. I have read around on forums and my unit is defective. Fucking piece of crap Nintendo shit hardware. Not only is it overpriced by 200 dollars, but the horseshit is broken too.

[SantaC]

Fucking piece of crap Nintendo shit hardware. Not only is it overpriced by 200 dollars, but the horseshit is broken too.

As utterly shit the Wii U is, you can't really blame the system unless you have evidence this shit is widespread. This can happen to any piece of electronics. Send it back to Nintendo.

http://techforums.nintendo.com/message/78303


Seems pretty damn common to me.

[Tasty]

First I've heard of it, and I'm on the cutting pulse of all things Nintendo.

[Steve Youngblood]

I've heard of a few instances. I'm honestly not sure if there's cause for concern or not, as I have no idea how widespread it is.

[archnemesis]

The only widespread issue I've heard about is the hard freezes, but I thought that was mostly fixed in a patch.

[SantaC]

I've heard of a few instances. I'm honestly not sure if there's cause for concern or not, as I have no idea how widespread it is.

googled blue light of death and a lot of people seem to get faulty launch batches. I should had read up on this before getting one.

[MCD]

No secret reset display code or something?

Can you try an AV cable instead of HDMI?

[SantaC]

SantaC, breh, did you check everything twice? Try putting the Wii U unit into a freezer for 5 minutes - it sometimes help with the electronics (saved me an nVidia GPU once).

yeah I even hooked it up to my 2nd tv...nothing. I plugged in the HDMI and AC adapter and pressed power on button. I shouldnt be doing anything else I assume?

[SantaC]

already packed it down

[Himu]

nice w

[Tasty]

nice w

[Tasty]

>Miyamoto: "I didn't like that Pikmin 2 was easier than the first, so I make Pikmin 3 like 1."
>Super Guide
>NSMBU challenge mode

>Wrath: "Nintendo am makin everything 2 easy"

[demi]

I liked Pikmin 1's tighter campaign. Pikmin 2 had a lot but I also didn't feel as compelled to really finish it.

[Tasty]

I think you need to replay Galaxy 2, NSMB Wii, and play NSMBU. I found DKCR easier than SMG2 on the whole. Shake It was Good-Feel, who made the similarly easy Epic Yarn but you can't impugne every actual Nintendo studio for that.

Nintendo's games are the hardest they've been since around the SNES, maybe even before, mostly thanks to the Super Guide. It's a non-valid non-complaint.

[Phoenix Dark]

nice w

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Maybe you find them easier cause youve been playing the same goddamn games for 20 years now.

For someone like andrex that only started playing games last gen this is different as for him its all new.

[SantaC]

wwwwww

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

  @ NSMBU being difficult

[Tasty]

@ NSMBU being difficult

It has the best difficulty curve of any 2D Mario. Also:

[Joe Molotov]

First I've heard of it, and I'm on the cutting pulse of all things Nintendo.

Slitting your wrists at bad Nintendo sales figures doesn't count.

[cool breeze]

Is there some reason that the Wii U Pro Controller only seems to be sold at Gamestop?  Amazon and Newegg used to list it.  My Newegg order is in limbo where it's still preordered but they claim it's discontinued.

[maxy]

gaf used wiiu buyer

whoever owned the console before me purchased multiple games, meaning all the games he purchased are available to redownload for free....This is with a new account btw I setup as well. Games are clearly linked to Console itself. Advice to those buying a second hand WiiU's...check all the games on the Store...you might be in for some "free" games!

 

[Great Rumbler]

[Don Flamenco]

I had that happen with a 3DS!   or was it a DSi?  I forget.  i got some free games cause it wasn't completely formatted. 

[Joe Molotov]

I can't wait to buy Andrex's old Wii U!

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Nintendo

[Diunx]

[demi]

It's ok, it increases its resale value

/3DS Ambassadors

[Purple Filth]

gaf used wiiu buyer

whoever owned the console before me purchased multiple games, meaning all the games he purchased are available to redownload for free....This is with a new account btw I setup as well. Games are clearly linked to Console itself. Advice to those buying a second hand WiiU's...check all the games on the Store...you might be in for some "free" games!

 

 really? really

[DCharlieJP]

did anyone at Nintendo even discuss the ins and outs of all this? Just sounds like one huge fuck up

[Tasty]

Eh, if you're selling a console, do a factory reset. Should be standard practice by now.

[Huff]

I think that was it though, the console had been reset

[Flannel Boy]

Eh, if you're selling a console, do a factory reset. Should be standard practice by now.

The customer is always wrong. (TM) Nintendo.

[Tasty]

I think that was it though, the console had been reset

No he just set up a new local account, and was surprised by the expected functionality of local games being available to all local users.

[cool breeze]

I once bought a used Dreamcast with a copy of Phantasy Star Online still in it.  No one at electronics boutique bothered opening the lid.

And I don't see why you'd reset the Wii U and lose everything.  At least this way someone benefits from your silly decision to buy stuff from the wareshop.  It's not as if you decide to buy a Wii U again in the future your account will retain those purchases.

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[demi]

Eh, if you're selling a console, do a factory reset. Should be standard practice by now.

And when you're buying a console, you should update it.

[Tasty]

Only if you care about that online hullabaloo. Personally, I think it's a fad.

[SantaC]

I called Nintendo and complained about my "blue light of death"

turns out the guy in the phone pretended to never heard of the issue before 

[SantaC]

Yeah, they do that.  Had Sony reps play dumb with me on drive failures on PS1s and PS2s and an MS rep play dumb with me on my first RRoD, too.

There's a reason they do that.  You win a no-prize if you're clever enough to figure out why.

it's funny though. I never had a console die on me before when I bought it. Even my old NES from 1987 is still running.

NES > Wii U

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745

The systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.

There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745

The systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.

There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.

You can get both those things on PC.

[Don Flamenco]

Yeah, they do that.  Had Sony reps play dumb with me on drive failures on PS1s and PS2s and an MS rep play dumb with me on my first RRoD, too.

There's a reason they do that.  You win a no-prize if you're clever enough to figure out why.

i'm guessing either to prevent a possibly legally significant admission that their shit sucks (if they tell everyone they know about the problem, those people might become a class and sue) or because they might try to weasel out of fixing it somehow? 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745

The systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.

There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.

   is this guy serious or a clever troll

[Eel O'Brian]

ah, yes, the classic arcade days, i remember them well, the happy hours i spent at the mall scraping my fingernail across a tiny screen to fling the power pellets into pac-man's mouth

[Joe Molotov]

Remember jamming on Turkey in the Straw in the arcades with your buddies after school? Good times.

[archie4208]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46038445&postcount=745

The systems just cater to different tastes. PS360 appeals mainly to people who like acting out violence and interacting with a visually impressive visual novella, and Wii (U) appeals mainly to people who like intense gameplay with classic arcade levels of challenge and player input.

There is no competition, really. They are practically different types of media.

PS360 - Hollywood gaming
Wii U - Bollywood gaming

?

[Joe Molotov]

PS360 = Hollywood Gaming
Wii U = 3am Paid Programming