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Re: The Official WII U thread of lazy devs, lazy pubs and lazy retailers.
« Reply #5880 on: January 06, 2013, 06:36:53 PM »
The fact you have limited lives doesnt make it harder just more annoying to replay the same level. Its more "grindy", super meat boy distills the experience to what its about.

Btw i never finished meat boy or any mario platformer I think. Unless mario 64 counts :lol
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« Reply #5881 on: January 06, 2013, 06:38:45 PM »
I was thinking about that today as I played Super Mario 3d Land. Lives are such an outdated concept in 2012 with the exception of a few games. In Mario, I got a game over. I don't have as many 1ups as Experiment. All it did was put me at the beginning of the world, with all my progress saved, and I had to retry the level I died on again.

Shit is redundant.
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« Reply #5882 on: January 06, 2013, 06:40:26 PM »
Though having played both all the way through, I will say that while Meat has higher moments of difficulty, it rarely demands the same level of continuous skill/luck as SMB2 does at times.  It also doesn't kick you back to beginning of the game if you run through a meager amount of lives.

Neither does SMB2j if you hold select or start (I forget which) on the game over screen. Just sends you to the start of the world. Which in World 8 is almost as bad as starting the whole fricking thing over again, but still.

I forget how but All Stars version babbyfied this somehow.

I don't factor cheat codes into a game's difficulty, generally, but yes, there is a continue cheat that lets you start from the beginning of the world you died on.  All-Stars lets you save level by level.

I wouldn't consider that a cheat, more of an easter egg.

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« Reply #5883 on: January 06, 2013, 06:53:21 PM »
I enjoyed reading that explanation.

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« Reply #5884 on: January 06, 2013, 07:16:38 PM »
Eh... I guess. I still think it feels different though.

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« Reply #5885 on: January 06, 2013, 09:55:04 PM »
it's like the famous konami easter egg

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« Reply #5886 on: January 06, 2013, 10:02:11 PM »
The word you're looking for is execution. Being able to perform a series of inputs without making a mistake. Pretty common term in fighting games.
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« Reply #5888 on: January 07, 2013, 01:38:00 PM »
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html

Such a great partnership EA is having with Nintendo so far  :lol

Is it because:

A) Lazy devs don't want to port their games to the Wii U
B) Lazy pubs are too afraid to compete with Nintendo games
C) Lazy retailers aren't pushing the Wii U on customers hard enough
D) Lazy casual gamers don't buy enough MATOOR 3rd party games

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« Reply #5889 on: January 07, 2013, 01:44:28 PM »
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a448410/crysis-3-not-coming-to-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive.html

Such a great partnership EA is having with Nintendo so far  :lol

http://www.destructoid.com/crysis-3-snubbing-wii-u-due-to-lack-of-business-drive--241913.phtml
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2013's biggest releases all seem to be overlooking the Wii U, with DmC: Devil May Cry, Dead Space 3, and BioShock Infinite all sticking to what they know. Do they feel the Wii U is only good for "gimmicky" games, or do they feel the system's not successful enough? It's doubtful anybody in the industry will confess the real reason.

Either way, it's feeling like a real waste to those who enjoy the console, and it doesn't look good.

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« Reply #5890 on: January 07, 2013, 01:51:05 PM »
1. It's a new system architecture that has to be learned
2. Sony and Microsoft have new systems coming out in less than a year [which will also have to be learned]
3. Wii U software isn't selling
4. Wii U hardware isn't selling

There's virtually no short-term benefit [since the games won't sell] and there's no long-term benefit [because games like that will sell better on next-generation systems]. Given limited resources and a tepid market, it's far better to take that money and put it towards getting games on those upcoming systems instead.
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« Reply #5891 on: January 07, 2013, 01:57:43 PM »
Well this news has certainly upset quite a few people around internet.

Why do we need Crysis anyway?
Crysis should stick to PC
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« Reply #5892 on: January 07, 2013, 01:59:21 PM »
Let's be honest, Crysis is a benchmark tool, not a game.

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« Reply #5893 on: January 07, 2013, 02:02:31 PM »
Let's be honest, Crysis is a benchmark tool, not a game.


it's a pretty awesome game...well Crysis 1 is.  but i'm not sure why wiiu owners are suddenly interested in it.   Did anyone think it was coming to wiiu?

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« Reply #5894 on: January 07, 2013, 02:04:04 PM »
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA
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« Reply #5895 on: January 07, 2013, 02:08:42 PM »
The Crysis games are better than people give them credit for.

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« Reply #5896 on: January 07, 2013, 02:14:18 PM »
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA

:rofl
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« Reply #5897 on: January 07, 2013, 02:16:17 PM »
Crysis 2 was actually pretty good. Can't say I'm really excited for 3 since it looks like a cash grab of engine reuse, but it will probably be at least decent. Either way its a loss for the Wii U.

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« Reply #5898 on: January 07, 2013, 02:27:58 PM »
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA

 :ohhh

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« Reply #5899 on: January 07, 2013, 02:31:48 PM »
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE RAGE




Is what I would say if I took myself too seriously. :P

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« Reply #5900 on: January 07, 2013, 02:45:33 PM »
The Official WII U thread of lazy devs and heroic hard working devs tragically under NDAs


Some of the stuff I wrote that is up on that blog is pretty outdated. Believe it or not I've changed how I think about things, and you can even see on this thread that I'm willing to concede points that people have brought up. I'm sorry if I pissed anyone off with old rants I forgot I'd written and no longer agree with.
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« Reply #5901 on: January 07, 2013, 02:47:58 PM »
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« Reply #5902 on: January 07, 2013, 03:00:45 PM »
all 3rd party games are coming to the wiiu. they just can't say because of NDA


hopefully they'll get revealed after Nintendo unlocks the hidden secret power in the processor.

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« Reply #5903 on: January 07, 2013, 03:15:54 PM »
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« Reply #5904 on: January 07, 2013, 03:21:10 PM »
:lol

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« Reply #5905 on: January 07, 2013, 03:43:46 PM »
Well this news has certainly upset quite a few people around internet.

Why do we need Crysis anyway?
Crysis should stick to PC

You xfag have no right to joke about Crytek :maf

And yes Crytek should stick to the PC. We would get real Crysis 2 and Crysis 3 then, miles ahead of PS360 titles.

Certainly I do FF sfeggit.Played the first one on PC back in 2007.


I own Crysis1,2 on XBL.

btw,Crysis 2 is a much better game than tech demo called Crysis.
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« Reply #5906 on: January 07, 2013, 04:00:08 PM »
The real story here is that Nintendo was trying to protect us from EA's price-gouging and unfair business practices:
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8 months before E3 and many months after this is what it was like between EA and Nintendo. Nintendo noticed that many people commended EA's online system and netcode they did for their Wii games (Madden, Medal of Honor, ect) so they asked them if they could work on contract to help build the core online ecosystem for their next gen console. EA provide a ton of consoling to Nintendo, such as how to make low-latency net code, username account systems, social networks and more. While other companies did provide input as well, EA made sure to provide the most input and support for the Wii U's R&D.

As an reward, EA received development kits even before Ubisoft, Valve or Tecmo Koei. Many of EA's studios were interested, especially Bioware who have been wanting to put their own games on a Nintendo system for ages and finally had the technical ability to do it with a Mass Effect Trilogy port and Dragon Age 3 on slate for the system.

Here comes the problem. At a meeting in Kyoto, a month or so after Peter Moore visited them, Nintendo of Japan showed EA their new Nintendo Network and Miiverse online system for Wii U. They wanted to congratulate them helping them with the support and paid them for their counseling.

This is where reportedly EA according to my friends who were at the meeting the core executives at EA got greedy. They then offered this deal to Nintendo where EA could go further with the online system adding smartphone/tablet functionality, communities, Facebook and Twitter interactions and more. Better netcode and something that would truly rival X-Box Live and PSN.

The catch? Nintendo would have to make the Nintendo Network for Wii U officially part of Origin and run Origin's interface and netcode. Ergo, Nintendo Network would be an Origin-exclusive network.

Nintendo actually did debate for a minute if they should accept EA's deal, but they quickly decided (and put their foot down) that there was WAY more harm than good doing this. Even though Nintendo Network can link to Origin and it's servers, having the core network running on Origin would provide quality control issues. For example, if EA wanted to sell some low end DLC for $50 each when realistically consumers would buy it only for $5, EA could do this without Nintendo having any say since it was their network and not Nintendo's. Also, if a rival company let's say Activision wanted to put Modern Warfare 4 on Wii U, EA could give Activison the WORST netcode and support resources while putting all their back into Battlefield 4, thus making a rival look worse than EA"s products.

These unfair business possibilities and consumer complaints on Origin for PC made Nintendo reject EA's offering for Origin and instead opted to keep the platform open to it's own internal network and able to link/patch in other networks such as Steam and uPlay.

This, like the PSN vs. Capcom incident that caused MH4 to jump ship, destroyed any momentum that Nintendo had with EA for Wii U. While EA still likes Wii U and will support it, from what I understand unless the launch titles or future titles sell way beyond expectations, EA will simply "throw Wii U bones" by putting some multiplatform games without giving them any real budgets. This means we are going to get low quality in terms of budget and manpower ports of various EA games with no soul behind them and thus the original agreement of ME3, FIFA and Madden are gimped and the developers have only that small budget to work with.

Ironically, the good thing that came out of this is that other 3rd parties praised Nintendo. This especially pleased Ubisoft, who was head over heels with the system to begin with and this move further solidified their partnership with the Big N. In a way, Nintendo lost EA and gained the entire good side of Ubisoft instead.

This also gave props to Valve, who also loves the system and since they are hard at work for 5 games in the next three years next year they will show off games for Wii U, starting with a multiplat Left 4 Dead prequel announcement for Q1/Q2 2013.

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« Reply #5907 on: January 07, 2013, 04:08:55 PM »
Should be easy to disprove that entire post, we just have to wait and see if a L4D prequel is announced for Wii U in the next few months.

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« Reply #5908 on: January 07, 2013, 04:23:54 PM »
The real news here is that Valve is working on 5 games.
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« Reply #5909 on: January 07, 2013, 04:30:22 PM »
The real news here is that Valve is working on 5 games.

Gotta have something on the Steam Box, it runs Linux you know.

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« Reply #5910 on: January 07, 2013, 04:30:56 PM »
speaking of tough 8-bit games. I could never beat the original batman for NES. I made it to the joker and died.

That gun of his is brutal, but if you can dodge it, he leaves huge openings.  I was able to do it when I was a kid, and it felt like such a big victory at that time. When I went back for a replay a couple years ago, he wasn't too bad at all.  I bet you could beat him without much trouble now, Santa.

well yeah I was probably around 8 or 9 at the time, so I would probably be able to beat it right now.

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« Reply #5911 on: January 07, 2013, 04:50:06 PM »
Always wondered why Valve never ported the L4D series over to PS3. They got pretty chummy with Sony during the Portal 2 release, and it probably would have sold pretty well.
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« Reply #5912 on: January 07, 2013, 05:04:50 PM »
The real news here is that Valve is working on 5 games.

ricochet 2, alien swarm 2, the rumored space sim game, day of the defeat global offensive, and DOTA2 (technically it hasn't been released yet)


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« Reply #5913 on: January 07, 2013, 05:21:18 PM »
Hasnt that space sim game been canned?

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« Reply #5914 on: January 07, 2013, 05:53:24 PM »
Hasnt that space sim game been canned?

Yeah.

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« Reply #5915 on: January 07, 2013, 09:51:27 PM »
I demand more venom from you Oscar. :wag You're not wearing the disenfranchised old curmudgeon hat very scintillatingly.

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« Reply #5916 on: January 07, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
Wait, Oscar is being apologetic? What happened to you, man, what happened. :'(
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« Reply #5917 on: January 07, 2013, 10:17:26 PM »
Gettin' old.

But...what? That doesn't make sense! Aren't people supposed to get even more bitter and curmudgeonly as they age? Or...are you, like, Brad Pitt in that one movie where he already really old when he born and he got younger as he aged? Is that what's happening, Oscar?
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« Reply #5918 on: January 08, 2013, 08:54:34 AM »
https://twitter.com/CastlevaniaLOS/status/288187288113008641
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@CastlevaniaLOS Will the Wii U get some LOS 2 love? # Pleasesayyes

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@danielwayne - Sorry to disappoint you but no chance.

Good thing that nobody cares about CastlevaniaLOS 2

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« Reply #5919 on: January 08, 2013, 10:01:08 AM »
You know what sets off my bullshitometer?

Quotes akin to "so my friends were in a meeting of the top executives of company A and company B discussing top level company strategy.... in Kyoto"

Maybe I'm all jaded but unless their friends are top executives it seems extremely unlikely - lol, not like there aren't other give always in that mass of text
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« Reply #5920 on: January 08, 2013, 10:07:32 AM »
Well I can confirm it's true since I read Iwata's internal blog.

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« Reply #5921 on: January 08, 2013, 10:59:45 AM »

Good thing that nobody cares about CastlevaniaLOS 2


They do now.

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« Reply #5922 on: January 08, 2013, 11:01:11 AM »
True.
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« Reply #5923 on: January 08, 2013, 11:26:34 AM »
He doesn't care.He is waiting for Nintendo to activate plan B.

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« Reply #5924 on: January 08, 2013, 11:35:16 AM »
I never played a single Lego game. What exactly am I missing? Is the Lego coat skin-deep or does it go deeper in the design?
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« Reply #5925 on: January 08, 2013, 11:36:50 AM »
Now copy/paste that post in the Vita thread and ask if Takao is ok, Borys. lol.
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« Reply #5926 on: January 08, 2013, 11:48:13 AM »
That other Lego game you posted a video to looked fucking great

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« Reply #5927 on: January 08, 2013, 11:53:57 AM »
DC > Marvel.

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« Reply #5929 on: January 08, 2013, 12:19:11 PM »
It's not even close, DC annihilates Marvel

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« Reply #5930 on: January 08, 2013, 12:23:05 PM »
It's not even close, DC annihilates Marvel

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« Reply #5931 on: January 08, 2013, 12:24:18 PM »
Thanks Oscar. Sorry again.

Those Lego games are way more fun and playable than they have any right to be.

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« Reply #5932 on: January 08, 2013, 12:32:00 PM »
Hey a marvel lego game. Finally a lego game I could care about. Hope the X-men get some love in this Avengers world.

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« Reply #5933 on: January 08, 2013, 12:33:06 PM »
I never played a single Lego game. What exactly am I missing? Is the Lego coat skin-deep or does it go deeper in the design?

I think the appeal was you can play them with your kids. I downloaded a demo once.

Lego Undercover Wii U looks like an adult game though.

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« Reply #5934 on: January 08, 2013, 12:44:25 PM »
Now copy/paste that post in the Vita thread and ask if Takao is ok, Borys. lol.

No one cares about the Lego games on Vita because they're always the dumb 3DS ones and not the superior console ones
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« Reply #5935 on: January 08, 2013, 12:58:44 PM »
NEW WII U GAME ANNOUNCED

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« Reply #5936 on: January 08, 2013, 01:21:25 PM »
Now copy/paste that post in the Vita thread and ask if Takao is ok, Borys. lol.

I think he saw the recent influx of ninthings and ran away scared
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« Reply #5937 on: January 08, 2013, 01:49:29 PM »
nintendo said theyre sending back my wii u tomorrow. No idea what has been done, but i bet the stupid idiots fired it up with composite cables and saw it working. It's the HDMI connection that is broken.

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« Reply #5938 on: January 08, 2013, 02:17:14 PM »
Oh boy, another Lego game. I hope it has some barely entertaining platforming, a million characters I don't care about unlocking and a dozen cutscenes where one hero is the butt of all the jokes.

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« Reply #5939 on: January 08, 2013, 02:50:57 PM »
People still play the Lego games?