Game

[Momo]

Oscar you're enabling him!

[Cerveza mas fina]

I thought having Oscar do all the work was smart  :'(

[Cerveza mas fina]

A what?

[Momo]

quiet momo, i'm trying to do an aesop here

I'll just Aristotle this entire conversation then 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

In Wii U gaming news, is anyone going to get Monster Hunter on the 19th?  I'm going to get it, never played a MH game before so should I get a Pro controller for this game?

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

WiiU release schedule:


 

[Eel O'Brian]

wow, that's pretty dire

[pilonv1]

wait for some nintendo directs

[Steve Youngblood]

Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!

[Eel O'Brian]

the only nintendo direct i am seeing is the nintendo wii u directly going into the shitter, haha

[Eel O'Brian]

i can see them ditching that gamepad and selling it separately, packing in a pro controller, dropping the price, and calling it a day

[Huff]

Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!

next best game after funky barn

[Steve Youngblood]

Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!

next best game after funky barn

Shut up! You're gonna jinx it!

[cool breeze]

will we see a Super 3DS adapter?

[Purple Filth]

WiiU release schedule:
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 :jada

[Huff]

Don't count out The Croods: Prehistoric Party!

next best game after funky barn

Shut up! You're gonna jinx it!

not even wiiu exclusive. pass

[Eel O'Brian]

ain't no party like a croods party

[Joe Molotov]

the only nintendo direct i am seeing is the nintendo wii u directly going into the shitter, haha

 :dead2

[Flannel Boy]

wii u savior:

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

WiiU release schedule:
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Third parties are extremely tight lipped due to draconian NDAs.  I've seen some shit being shown off behind the scenes that will blow the PS4 away :wtf2

[maxy]

good news

Oh, yes, 3 more passed 100k.

Zombi
SU
Sonic
JD4

LTD of course

[Phoenix Dark]

the only nintendo direct i am seeing is the nintendo wii u directly going into the shitter, haha

[pilonv1]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-says

The digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.

The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.

"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."

Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.

Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.

Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.

Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.

 :wtf2

[Cerveza mas fina]

WiiU release schedule:
(Image removed from quote.)

 

Third parties are extremely tight lipped due to draconian NDAs.  I've seen some shit being shown off behind the scenes that will blow the PS4 away :wtf2

10/10 for that emoticon

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-says

The digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.

The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.

"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."

Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.

Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.

Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.

Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.

 :wtf2

So even the Premium is a tard pack?

 :manny

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-says

The digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.

The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.

"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."

Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.

Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.

Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.

Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.

 :wtf2

 

[Brehvolution]

Just feel lucky that you don't have to use an official nintendo licensed external 60gb hard drive for $100.

[Cerveza mas fina]

At least MS Premium was actually Premium at launch.

[Huff]

Official wiiU thread of not getting the next great sequel in the saints row franchise, either

[Joe Molotov]

I got a feeling the WiiU ain't gonna be getting much of anything.

[Sho Nuff]

WEEEOOOOOOOOOOOO~~~

[Joe Molotov]

Gamecube-era sales + Wii-era power gap =   

[Purple Filth]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-03-15-wii-u-external-hard-drive-required-to-download-lego-city-undercover-nintendo-says

The digital version of Lego City Undercover requires you to have an external hard drive for your Wii U, Nintendo has cautioned.

The publisher has warned those wishing to download the title from the Wii U eShop.

"An external hard drive is required to download this software," a notice on the game's official site reads. "Visit support.nintendo.com for information about storage options."

Reports suggest the open-world adventure weighs in at a hefty 22GB - we're checking with Nintendo now to make sure.

Basic 8GB Wii U consoles have just 3GB free space after installing system software and creating a user profile, Nintendo revealed last year.

Premium 32GB Wii U consoles get 25GB of usable space - suggesting that you should just about be able to squeeze Lego City Undercover on. That's bearing in mind you've got no other software or apps downloaded.

Nintendo doesn't make a distinction between the two models, simply stating that Wii U owners in general will need an external hard drive.

 :wtf2

[MyNameIsMethodis]

why did I buy this stupid fucking system

[maxy]

http://kotaku.com/5990793/creating-a-video-game-with-nintendo-sounds-stressful-amazing-and-unreal

Holliday remembered that video call. "We were developing something in secret, like we usually do working with Nintendo," he said."There was a conference call very similar to this one where it was kind of announced to us that we would stop working on what we were currently doing and start—they even added a little drum roll—to work on Luigi's Mansion."

He clarified that, yes, Kensuke Tanabe, the long-time Nintendo producer who also worked with the Japanese company's in-house Texas-based studio on their Metroid and Donkey Kong games, did some rapid hand-tapping on the table. "Tanabe-san is a funny guy, and he was trying to get me excited for this bad news," Holliday joked.

But Luigi comes with rules. It turns out that Nintendo characters often do. One rule for Luigi for the new game? Luigi wasn't allowed to jump. In Super Mario Bros., that's fine. In a Luigi's Mansion? It was not permitted.

[hampster]

why did I buy this stupid fucking system

Because it's by far the best Netflix player! The remote is so big you never lose it

Unlike my dumb roku remote which always disappears

[Shaka Khan]

How much did they really save on costs by packing that meager 32GB drive? I mean we're in the high-capacity disks/BR era for god's sake.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Shaka i thought the 32gb isnt a drive but just an sd card or something, prob more expensive then a 80gb hdd.

[Shaka Khan]

Ohh, is it flash? I really can't remember the last time I read anything on this thing's guts.

[maxy]

How much did they really save on costs by packing that meager 32GB drive? I mean we're in the high-capacity disks/BR era for god's sake.

See that small orange thing(bottom left corner)?

That is WiiU storage device.Yellow things represent main memory.

[cool breeze]

yeP, flash storage.  Superior definitive storage  :munch

At least you can use standard usb hard drives for the wii u.  So does 360, I think, and PS3 lets you use any laptop hard drive, but this is progressive and frankly brave for Nintendo.  It took years for the Wii to get SD card storage.  Wasn't it Reggie who made the fridge comment?

[Joe Molotov]

yeP, flash storage.  Superior definitive storage  :munch

At least you can use standard usb hard drives for the wii u.  So does 360, I think, and PS3 lets you use any laptop hard drive, but this is progressive and frankly brave for Nintendo.  It took years for the Wii to get SD card storage.  Wasn't it Reggie who made the fridge comment?

But now the fridge only holds one piece of food. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Now that we have a couple new months of data I figured I'd ask again: if you were given Iwata's job today, for the next 12 months, what would you do about the WiiU. Let us assume you can't sell Nintendo or begin production on a new console.

[MCD]

Make games?

[Purple Filth]

From the Saints Row IV GAF thread

Well if no Wii U, it's a no buy from me on anything. Not going to support devs not willing to support Wii U.

 

At first i kinda felt bad for the Wii U but now i'm hoping this continues.

[Momo]

Now that we have a couple new months of data I figured I'd ask again: if you were given Iwata's job today, for the next 12 months, what would you do about the WiiU. Let us assume you can't sell Nintendo or begin production on a new console.

Use WiiU as a giant training exercise to get my devs up to par in creating a modern OS and network infrastructure + getting used to HD workflows. 

[maxy]

What has been said above +

-plan $199 WiiU but not announce anything until Rango/PS4 prices are known
-price cut+games+marketing blitz starts in August and goes on until new year
-GTA5 day and date would be nice,marketing deal to pimp WiiU version too--plan would be to increase WiiU awareness not to make money on GTA5 ,lots of people seem to be unaware of WiiU existence.Probably way too late if not done already so whatever.

After that focus on pleasing the core audience with as much games as possible.Popular Gamecube games HD "remakes" to fill the gaps(use third party devs for that) + new WiiU games here or there.
The goal would be to stay as much relevant as possible.Dust collector two times in a row=disaster,nobody will buy new system at launch unless it's some miracle like Wii.

Work on a new system and listen carefully what your audience wants.New system in 2016/17.

[archnemesis]

Why would anyone buy GTA5 for Wii U? People who are interested in the series likely already own a 360/PS3.

[maxy]

Why would anyone buy GTA5 for Wii U? People who are interested in the series likely already own a 360/PS3.

Read the whole thing.

GTA5 = pure marketing

GTA5 WiiU trailer = millions of views

WiiU launch trailer



check amount of views

[archnemesis]

Still, why would customers pay $260 instead of $60 for their GTA fix? With your proposal Nintendo would just waste loads of cash and the return wouldn't be impressive. They're better off releasing Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, and Zelda remakes. They need exclusives that appeal to their audience, not more ports of last-gen games.

[maxy]

I don't think it would sell either.I'm just saying it might be smart to plaster your name on something popular,you have to market your system anyway.I would not spend much on it,just some reasonable amount of money that would otherwise go into WiiU marketing.

[maxy]

I would beg on my knees

Anyway,that train is long gone.

It would be interesting to see how much it would sell compared to COD.I think COD purchase is now fully determined by friends,WiiU never had any chance.GTA on the other hand is mostly SP game.

Activision and EA might be surprised when they see COD(insert number)/BF4 next gen sales.

[Flannel Boy]

Although a port of GTAV might make things a little more tolerable for game-starved wii-u owners, it isn't isn't going to sell one extra wii u. Gamers who want GTAV already have a 360, PS4, or a decent PC.

Nintendo is going to have to pay third parties to make exclusives games for the WII U that it just doesn't develop, as it seems to have already started doing (see: Lego City or Bayonetta 2).

[Cerveza mas fina]

I agree with Oscar. Just focus on making games for the faithful and weather the storm till the next console.

[maxy]

Although a port of GTAV might make things a little more tolerable for game-starved wii-u owners, it isn't isn't going to sell one extra wii u. Gamers who want GTAV already have a 360, PS4, or a decent PC.

Nintendo is going to have to pay third parties to make exclusives games for the WII U that it just doesn't develop, as it seems to have already started doing (see: Lego City or Bayonetta 2).

already started =long time ago,before sales results

The question is,should they even bother now?
If the answer is yes,what type of third party games should they pay for?

[Flannel Boy]

The question is,should they even bother now?
If the answer is yes,what type of third party games should they pay for?

If the answer to the first question is no, they should pull the plug on the system right now. They should bother if they want GameCube sales instead of Saturn sales.
Anything and everything that isn't a platformer, party game, or mini-game.

[maxy]

The question is,should they even bother now?
If the answer is yes,what type of third party games should they pay for?

If the answer to the first question is no, they should pull the plug on the system right now. They should bother if they want GameCube sales instead of Saturn sales.
Anything and everything that isn't a platformer, party game, or mini-game.

That's easy to say but WiiU third party sales are among the worst ever.When games like COD and Ass Creed are nothing more than microscopic blip on a chart,what to do then?

I have a feeling that Bayonetta 2 will be among the biggest bombs ever,Platinum  :'(

[Damian79]

Yeah Bayonetta 2 is gonna bomb, I dont see the market on a kids console like the WiiU.

[Phoenix Dark]

Good points all around, although I don't think GTA would matter on this console. I would focus on some Gamecube HD ports for the spring/summer while doing everything possible to get a new Mario Kart out for November, paired with a price cut/new bundle. And of course whatever Retro is working on needs to come out this year.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Yeah, its been pretty apparent that third parties aren't going to be a factor as they have removed themselves from the equation for understandably practical reasons.  If I'm not mistaken, sony kind of had to lubricate the ps3'sinitial prospects by subsidizing development costs for multi-plats.  Now is the time to to use that hefty warchest Nintendo built up last gen and fast track content.  They really can't afford to fuck around at this point... and in spite of what people want, Iwata stepping down kind of scares me, because I could see a CEO replacing him who would start to incorporate that tacky micro transaction/f2p shit that's truly despicable.

[Shaka Khan]

and don't make the same idiot mistakes.

I know we (bore and errbody with a blog) have bitched about this console for god knows how long, so it's always easy to lose focus on the root of the problem(s). So can you succinctly express where the biggest, almost irrecoverable mistakes took place here in their strategy?

Is it: positioning, timing, hardware, selling point, marketing, pricing, software scheduling, software variety, 3rd party developer policies/relations, poor read of the market, poor read of demographics, or purely external industry factors?

And what could have been the (absolute minimum) adjustment(s) that would have mitigated them?

It's always a mixture of a bunch of things, but there has to be a couple of glaring ones for this round.

Edit: But feel free to skip either question if you think you've already answered them. I probably should posted *after* reading everything posted lol.