Author Topic: Mr. Gundam, Himuro and Bebpo present: The Superior Gundam Thread (Read 14316 times)

Tasty · « **Reply #60 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:15:13 AM »

It's getting better as it goes on. I think 6 was probably the worst episode. I do appreciate that although one could fault the show for being consistently dull, it is at least consistent, something I can't really say about Gundam 00, which felt all over the place and planned by different people. AGE feels like the vision of a single person.

Anyways, I just watched 10, it was pretty good. Nice battle, although the AGE System is getting a bit deus ex-y at this point. Would be interesting if a plot point was it falling into the UE's hands.

Oh and I'm making a prediction:

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based on 00, and going by Desil, Flit, and that psychic girl, everyone who has an unnatural hair color is part of the UE or has some kind of psychic-ish power.

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Thinking back though, I remember falling in and out of love with 00 until the Thrones/Trans-Am showed up, which was eps 16-18. Then I really became a fan. So it'll probably be a while until I do the same for AGE.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #61 on:** December 14, 2011, 12:21:27 PM »

Did you read the rumors/spoilers about

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TIME TRAVELIN' UE being a training program for a greater evil on the horizon

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, Andrex? I wonder if that's going to come true. I get the feeling that it's not, but you never know.

I still feel like the hate toward this show is ridiculously out of wack. KIDDY LOLZ OMG. It's fucking Gundam. I have an issue with a few of the character designs, but c'mon, it's always been a kid's show designed to sell models and shit. Why am I the only one that gets that?

Beezy · « **Reply #62 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 14, 2011, 12:21:27 PM

it's always been a kid's show designed to sell models and shit.

AGE makes this clear. With all the changeable body parts and shit.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #63 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:50:16 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on December 14, 2011, 01:48:47 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 14, 2011, 12:21:27 PM
it's always been a kid's show designed to sell models and shit.
AGE makes this clear. With all the changeable body parts and shit.

Every Gundam series (aside from 0079) has had at least one new Gundam unit show up half way through. And most of the recent shows have TONS of Gundams. I really like that Flit is the only person with a Gundam.

So far.

Tasty · « **Reply #64 on:** December 14, 2011, 03:58:07 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 14, 2011, 12:21:27 PM

Did you read the rumors/spoilers about
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TIME TRAVELIN' UE being a training program for a greater evil on the horizon
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, Andrex? I wonder if that's going to come true. I get the feeling that it's not, but you never know.

I still feel like the hate toward this show is ridiculously out of wack. KIDDY LOLZ OMG. It's fucking Gundam. I have an issue with a few of the character designs, but c'mon, it's always been a kid's show designed to sell models and shit. Why am I the only one that gets that?

No I haven't heard that rumor. Seems dumb though.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #65 on:** December 15, 2011, 01:27:06 AM »

Totally caught up now. Cliched but enjoyable. The GINN and Zaku knock-offs were interesting. I really want to know why the EFF is unwilling to do anything against the UE... Afraid? In on it?

Also, the time jump should be soon, seeing how AGE-2 Normal models are coming out in January.

Tasty · « **Reply #66 on:** December 15, 2011, 02:35:11 AM »

Now that's a Gundam.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #67 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:06:24 PM »

Combination of Zeta, 00, Nu and Freedom.

AGE-3 looks A LOT like ZZ.

Tasty · « **Reply #68 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:26:05 PM »

Wait I didn't even see that gun transformation. What.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #69 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:27:14 PM »

That's not a gun, it's a waverider mode like the Zeta Gundam.

Bebpo · « **Reply #70 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:27:48 PM »

AGE-3 is the only decent looking mech design of the series. But AGE-2 is a slight improvement over AGE-1 I guess. Hopefully that means the final era will have good mech designs that don't look like Digimon rejects.

I'm pretty sure the show is going to be 39eps with each timeframe being a 13ep season.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #71 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:59:08 PM »

I really like AGE-1 Normal. I prefer sleek designs not bogged down by wings and other shit.

Tasty · « **Reply #72 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:15:42 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 15, 2011, 10:59:08 PM

I really like AGE-1 Normal. I prefer sleek designs not bogged down by wings and other shit.

Me too. Although I did love the twin drives on 00 Gundam.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #73 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:21:09 PM »

Apparently Bandai is going to be doing a grim-dark version of Gundam AGE sometime soon, no indication what format it's going to be in, though.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #74 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:26:07 PM »

I bet it's a manga.

I love how adult equals DARK DOOM AND GLOOM BLOODSHED EVERYWHERE YESSSSSS YESSSSS.

People love Crossbone. Crossbone is fucking ridiculous and childish at times, yet no one seems to realize this.

Bebpo · « **Reply #75 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:55:39 PM »

It's manga.

Bebpo · « **Reply #76 on:** December 15, 2011, 11:57:00 PM »

You can do ridiculous childish if you back it up with totally over the top badass which is exactly what Crossbone and G Gundam both do. Also they have kickass mech designs.

AGE is lacking a badass character doing cool over the top things and it's also missing kickass mech design. Not really in the same tier at all.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #77 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:28:43 AM »

I actually think a lot the non-Japanese people begging for animated Crossbone haven't read Crossbone.

I like Crossbone, but I wonder if people really know what it's like?

Himu · « **Reply #78 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:29:29 AM »

G Gundam is overrated.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #79 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:58:32 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 16, 2011, 01:29:29 AM

G Gundam is overrated.

By who?

Tasty · « **Reply #80 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:14:29 AM »

Man I need to rewatch G so bad.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #81 on:** December 16, 2011, 12:54:34 PM »

I'm really not a fan of G Gundam. Little too super robot-y for me.

Himu · « **Reply #82 on:** December 16, 2011, 12:57:33 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2011, 01:58:32 AM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 16, 2011, 01:29:29 AM
G Gundam is overrated.

By who?

People on the internet, namely manchildren with a kiddy fetish.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #83 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:02:57 PM »

Himuro dropping truth bombs.

We need a Quatro "Deal with it" animated GIF.

G Gundam is fine, I just don't like it as a Gundam show.

Himu · « **Reply #84 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:04:40 PM »

I like G Gundam, but anyone saying it's one of the better Gundam shows needs to get bent. So repetitive. Shining finger every fucking episode, good god. G Gundam is for people who aren't Gundam fans, which usually seems to be the case.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #85 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:11:03 PM »

G Gundam is a stereotypical Super Robot show. It follows the formulaic plot where a Deus Ex Machina attack is (SHAININGU FINGAA!!!) is used to defeat enemies.

Bebpo · « **Reply #86 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:29:45 PM »

G Gundam, like Turn A, is a boring show with insane amounts of filler and almost nothing happening until the end.

That being said, both have great characters, great mecha, and lots of memorable scenes that make the trips worth it.

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both are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AGE

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The only show I would put the first 10eps of AGE above in the Gundam universe is the 00 Movie. Let's see if it can eclipse OO S2 next and then maybe even SEED Destiny if it gets a lot better.

Himu · « **Reply #87 on:** December 16, 2011, 01:51:38 PM »

Turn A is nothing like that at all.

And AGE is already better than Seed, Seed Destiny, and 00 s2.

Bebpo · « **Reply #88 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:30:46 PM »

Turn A has so much filler and the pacing sucks. People give it too much credit because the concept is original, the art is great, and the music is A+++; I like Turn A, but I will never sit through the entire show again. If I want to re-experience the show I will watch the condensed movie editions. The best parts of Turn A are the first 5 eps and the last 5 eps. Wish G Gundam had movie compilations as well since I'm never sitting through G again. Heck, I wish every Gundam series had movie condensed versions because I'm never going to rewatch 40-50ep shows, but I'll rewatch a 4-6 hour movie version of it from time to time like I do with the SEED movies.

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 16, 2011, 01:51:38 PM

Turn A is nothing like that at all.

And AGE is already better than Seed, Seed Destiny, and 00 s2.

You're dead to me Himuro. DEAD TO ME.

Himu · « **Reply #89 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:32:44 PM »

You put Seed on a pedestal?

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #90 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:44:39 PM »

SEED really isn't that bad.

Himu · « **Reply #91 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:46:26 PM »

It isn't. But it's not great either.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #92 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:48:44 PM »

I enjoyed it a lot while it was airing. That was also 2002-2003, so who knows what I'd think if I went back and rewatched it.

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:49:14 PM »

I really like Seed but its biggest problem is trying to replicate 0079.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #94 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:49:52 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 16, 2011, 02:49:14 PM

I really like Seed but its biggest problem is trying to replicate 0079.

I don't think that was a problem, I thought it was interesting.

Tasty · « **Reply #95 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:20:53 PM »

I thought 00 s2 was pretty good. Think it had better pacing and driving factors than s1 at least.

Himu · « **Reply #96 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:23:51 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on December 16, 2011, 03:20:53 PM

I thought 00 s2 was pretty good. Think it had better pacing and driving factors than s1 at least.

Wow, we all have completely different taste when it comes to Gundam.

Tasty · « **Reply #97 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:59:46 PM »

It's hard to choose though, I love 00 on the whole. I just felt like s1 dragged more often than s2 did. Oh and that s1 had the far worse "villain." Not that Ribbon's troupe was anything to brag about, but I thought it was interesting how it tied into Tieria.

Himu · « **Reply #98 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:01:00 PM »

00 s1? Villain? The thing about 00 s1 is that the main characters are the villains. That's why it owns. 00 s2 is terribad. I don't think s1 ever really drags either, but even if it did, the story never got balls out bad like s2 did.

Tasty · « **Reply #99 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 16, 2011, 04:01:00 PM

00 s1? Villain? The thing about 00 s1 is that the main characters are the villains. That's why it owns. 00 s2 is terribad.

That doesn't make any sense.

s2 is where everything that was laid down in s1 came together.

Himu · « **Reply #100 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:11:49 PM »

I didn't even finish s2. s1 am stand alone season as far as I'm concerned.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #101 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:36:33 PM »

This is not isolated to The Bore, but I find it interesting how people spend more time hating on Gundam than they do actually enjoying it.

Himu · « **Reply #102 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:44:04 PM »

I disagree. I love Gundam. I like more Gundam than I dislike Gundam. The only Gundam's I actively dislike are 00 s2 and Seed Destiny.

Bebpo · « **Reply #103 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:46:59 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on December 16, 2011, 04:36:33 PM

This is not isolated to The Bore, but I find it interesting how people spend more time hating on Gundam than they do actually enjoying it.

I didn't start hating Gundam until midway through Destiny. Before then I loved every gundam anime, manga, and even the crappy games.

Since Destiny it's been letdown after letdown with OO S1 almost being an exception until S2 came along and ruined OO and the movie made a bigger insult.

I feel this is one of those situations where the producers at Bandai/Sunrise, like SE with final fantasy, have reached a point where they have no idea what they are doing and and are throwing shit at the wall hoping that something sticks and catches popular appeal so that their popularity doesn't die and their company sinks.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #104 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:54:47 PM »

It's a bunch of giant fucking robots in a cartoon made to sell models. I take it for what it is and watch.

LOVE ME SOME ROBOTS!

Himu · « **Reply #105 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:58:07 PM »

I see the robots as a means to an end. If Gundam had no mecha in it and it was just a bunch of dude in spaceships firing lasers at each other I'd still love it. I see the robots as nothing but suits the characters use to fight. I watch Gundam for story.

Bebpo · « **Reply #106 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:11:06 PM »

I watch Gundam for the soap opera war drama.

Himu · « **Reply #107 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:15:28 PM »

I watch Gundam for space opera war drama. Don't care bout no mecha, though they're certainly cool.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #108 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:28:55 PM »

Soap opera war drama is totally appreciated and adored, but robots are just cool.

It's anime, I look other places for my highbrow dramatic material.

Himu · « **Reply #109 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:31:06 PM »

Didn't say anything about highbrow, but because it's anime doesn't mean it can't tell a good story either. To say otherwise is an insult to the medium.

Bebpo · « **Reply #110 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:08:29 AM »

Yeah, I feel like when you try to dismiss Gundam as "man, I just wanna see some robots brawl" you're really underselling the fantastic war stories the better ones tell. Gundam was made to show "hey, WAR SUCKS" and man, did it say it good. And has said it many times. Gundam is basically the ultimate anti-war franchise; and it also happens to often be extremely tense and entertaining in the process.

Beezy · « **Reply #111 on:** December 17, 2011, 12:10:37 AM »

<-- started watching Gundam mainly for the cool mech battles, stayed for the space war drama

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #112 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:53:12 AM »

Gundam AGE Episode 11 -- CANDY BAR MAN STRIKES

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On the run from the Federation. Grodek thinks they're in cahoots with the UE. Time for some epice space battle action on Christmas day.

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Tasty · « **Reply #113 on:** December 20, 2011, 12:07:54 AM »

Should be good.

Also the fed guy is totally Mello's dad from Death Note.

MCD · « **Reply #114 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:16:07 AM »

Andrex, if you like 00 then I won't mind your Android faggotry.

Welcome brother.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #115 on:** January 01, 2012, 09:21:01 PM »

Episode 12 is out.

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Hello Goodbye, Lalah-Yurin.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #116 on:** January 08, 2012, 06:45:47 PM »

Episode 13 is out, currently downloading.

Tasty · « **Reply #117 on:** January 09, 2012, 08:32:39 AM »

Thought 13 was pretty good. Hopefully we get some revelations next week or something.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #118 on:** January 09, 2012, 02:15:52 PM »

Haven't watched 13 yet, but the time jump starts with episode 15, so I'm sure much shit will go down next week.

Bebpo · « **Reply #119 on:** January 09, 2012, 02:54:39 PM »

I'm going to catch up when this era ends.

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Author Topic: Mr. Gundam, Himuro and Bebpo present: The Superior Gundam Thread (Read 14316 times)