SAINTS ROW THE THIRD |OFF| GOTY, HOES, PENIS, GIMPS, LUCHADORES, ORALE!!!!

[Himu]

You know, as much as I like these guys and think they get 95% of it right, there's definitely some weak choices here and there.  Like the whole point of the Heli Assault activity is have an activity where you get to BLOW SHIT UP WITH A HELICOPTER...because that's fun, right?  And everyone likes fun!  But then they make it an escort mission and by principal escort missions are not fun, so they kind of mess that up.  Helicopter side activities should have been just flying around blowing lots of shit up with explosions or flying through air rings like pilotwings or something.  The Tank activities are fun because you just blow lots of shit up in combos and who doesn't like blowing things up & combos? 

No one.  That's who.

Play fucking co-op.

[Robo]

Heli Assault was pretty dull.  Shoulda been more Guardian Angel missions, less Heli Assault.

[chronovore]

Heli-Assault is easier in SR2 because you get one guy to fly and the other just shoots. Sceneman and I ruled the world from our aerial gunship platform. In SR3, you just have two helicopters, which makes it slightly easier to manage multiple enemies, but doesn't "feel as co-op."

Guardian Angel needed more instances. I've no idea why there are only two of them.

I understood that Bebpo was talking about the difficulty level of the Activity, but was also wondering that the Activity would be further influenced by the overall difficulty level of the game. I will admit to playing SR2 entirely on Casual, and still having an obscenely difficult time with Tow Truck Activity.

There is still a difficulty level for the whole SR3 game, isn't there?

[Bebpo]

I think difficulty in the options menu only affects your damage taken and damage given with a modifier.  So activities that would be affected by that would be affected like your health in Mayhem, but things like Trail Blazer wouldn't.

I'm just making this up but it sounds common sensical.

[chronovore]

I'm just saying, if you can't pass the Activity, try upgrading any weapons you use during that Activity. If the McManus appears, upgrade the hell out of it. If it's rockets, max that out. If you still can't pass it, make sure you play with the Options.

[Bebpo]

Good times, good times.  Almost through it.  100%'d the collectibles and finished 2/4 islands.  Have 6 side activities left on the remaining 2 (3 & 3) which I'll do tomorrow and then I'm all set to marathon the rest of the plot.  The STAG guys just showed up where I am in the story (towards the end of act 2).  Game needs more weapons.  I'm running out of things to upgrade since I only have about 2 or 3 weapons for each slot.  Needs more crazy weaponry.

Also are there ANY weapons that use the awesome button to modify their attacks?  For making a big deal about a button that does AWESOME, the only times it seems to effect anything is when getting in and out of cars and when doing melee attacks.  Both are awesome, but I was hoping the awesome button would also making the shooting gunplay more awesome by adding john woo max payne slo-mo attacks or something.  But I've been upgrading all the weapons and my character abilities (lvl.31 right now) and nada.

Also, this game has an insane amount of clothing.  I am a big fan of games where I get to dress up my characters and while I normally play as a guy in 99% of games, the fact that the character models weren't ugly caveman people like most games + huge fashion selection made me go with a girl.  Will go with a guy on my co-op play!

Here's a snippet of her dress up adventures in SR land.  Don't judge me!













 

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[pilonv1]

If you think this game has plenty of clothing you should see Saints Row 2

[chronovore]

True, but the clothing in SR2 is ugly compared to SR3.

SR2 definitely wins for layering and combinations, and PATTERNS which you can dictate your own colors in a PLAID... but so many of those are poorly alpha'd textures that it just kinda falls apart. I'd rather have fewer, well-executed choices.

[benjipwns]

The pants in SR3 seem to fit better. Shoes seem to have better textures as well.

I enjoy how this is what we've come to in order to differentiate two amazing games.

[Himu]

SR2 has better clothing CUSTOMIZATION. But the actual clothing sucks. I like every piece of clothing in SR3, whereas I can only stand to where a fraction of the clothes in 2.

[Human Snorenado]

I pretty much just make my character run around buck nekkid for the whole game.

[Bebpo]

In games with a lot of clothing, I change clothes every time I see a clothing shop.  Then I'll save outfits I like and go back to them later if they are cool.


So has anyone tried the Genki DLC set?  Someone on gaf said a few of the new activities are just old ones re-skinned :|

[Cravis]

I went ahead and bought the season pass. I'm going to download Genki Bowl as soon as I get home.

[Bebpo]

My plan for the week is: Finish remaining activities -> Finish story -> Finish remaining assassinations & theft challenges -> Do Genki Bowl

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I am not able to get Genki Bowl to activate on the PC/Steam version - if anyone gets it working, let me know where you find the activities.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Okay, looks like you MUST pick CAMPAIGN -> LOAD GAME. If you pick CONTINUE, the Genki Bowl activities will NOT unlock.

[The Sceneman]

post Genkibowl impressions asap!

I can't afford the season pass this week but I'll get it next week

[Cravis]

I enjoyed Genki Bowl.

Sad Panda Skydiving is surprisingly my favorite. You have more control while skydiving due to the Panda suit.  You want to try to land on buildings to slaughter mascots then jump in the Man-a-pult to launch you back in the air and go through rings. Once you've amassed a large enough score you want to land like in base jumping.

The yarn is like massacre. It's pretty fun because you can build up a shockwave that devastates everything. My only gripe is the ball tends to get hung up on the smallest of things. Its frustrating when you're in mid combo and lose it due to not being able to roll over a small barrier.

Apocalypse Genki is your usual Genki activity except set in a temple like setting. It reminds me a lot of Legends of the Lost Temple for those who remember it. You can throw mascots in the water and watch them eaten by sharks.

Super Ethical PR Opportunity is escort with you driving Professor Genki around in his tripped out Genki-mobile. Think presidential meets Japanese disco. You have to avoid crazed fans and run over plenty of people to please him before taking him to his PR event. You run over a certain amount and it allows you to use the car's flamethrowers. This thing has flamethrowers mounted on all sides so you can just go crazy and light everything around you on fire.

If you enjoyed the activities and are wanting more I'd recommend it. If you disliked the activities or just trudged through them to beat the game I'd say pass. There's no new sections just new activities. You do unlock all the crazy vehicles including the Genki-mobile and Yarn ball when you finish so that's a plus. It only took me about 45 minutes to go through all the activities. I still need to finish up 2 achievements for it, kill all the mascots in Sad Panda on a single play through and go through all the rings in a single session.

[The Sceneman]

sounds awesome. Looking forward to it!

[chronovore]

Thanks for the description. I am in like Flynn.

[Himu]

I need The Trouble With Clones. So bad.

[The Sceneman]

I am in like Flynn.

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[Eel O'Brian]

I pretty much just make my character run around buck nekkid for the whole game.

+1 but with that shark hat

[Human Snorenado]

I pretty much just make my character run around buck nekkid for the whole game.

+1 but with that shark hat

I generally also make use of a nice pair of sneakers and some sunglasses, cause it's important to be able to run and I don't want the sun in my eyes after all.  For SR3 I did make use of a Gat oversized mask thing for most of the game, too.

[Bebpo]

I can't beat the last insurance fraud activity because not only do you need $450,000 which is A LOT but there are STAG everywhere now because I brought them into the story and the second I get hit by a car near them they start SHOOTING AT ME and the worst part is all the cars at the intersection TURN AROUND AND DRIVE AWAY FROM THE STAG PEOPLE SHOOTING so there are no cars anymore for me to ram my head on.  WTF.  Guess I will need to play the story until the STAG exit the picture so I can do the freaking activity.  Ugh, annoying.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I can't beat the last insurance fraud activity because not only do you need $450,000 which is A LOT but there are STAG everywhere now because I brought them into the story and the second I get hit by a car near them they start SHOOTING AT ME and the worst part is all the cars at the intersection TURN AROUND AND DRIVE AWAY FROM THE STAG PEOPLE SHOOTING so there are no cars anymore for me to ram my head on.  WTF.  Guess I will need to play the story until the STAG exit the picture so I can do the freaking activity.  Ugh, annoying.

[chronovore]

I can't beat the last insurance fraud activity because not only do you need $450,000 which is A LOT but there are STAG everywhere now because I brought them into the story and the second I get hit by a car near them they start SHOOTING AT ME and the worst part is all the cars at the intersection TURN AROUND AND DRIVE AWAY FROM THE STAG PEOPLE SHOOTING so there are no cars anymore for me to ram my head on.  WTF.  Guess I will need to play the story until the STAG exit the picture so I can do the freaking activity.  Ugh, annoying.

C'mon, that is ONE of the possibilities...

[Bebpo]

c'mon guys.  It's highly possible that in a videogame where one enemy type is replaced halfway by a tougher enemy type, that it's a permanent replacement, which in this case would fuck me over.

But good to know they'll disappear at some point.  Should finish the story anyhow.  Did the mission where you steal a VTOL last night before bed, was pretty fun, hovering reminded me of Warhawk, though I wish in flight mode they would go faster, they're a lot slower than the other planes in the game.

I still think I may need some co-op help for a couple of the final activities.  $450,000 insurance fraud in 6 mins is seriously tough.  It takes a minute to get to an intersection and build up adrenaline meter, then if I'm lucky I can get about 30-50k per multi-car, floating around combo which takes 10-20 seconds each.  Then halfway I need to change intersections and repeat.  I've gotten 400k, but 450k is harddd.

[pilonv1]

Have you increased your stamina? I found it tough but in the end got it after I was able to run around more. Just try to pinball yourself between some stationary cars to build up a multiplier.

[Bebpo]

Me and Treesang escorted Pierce in a co-op fashion and it was awesome although there were some random explosions because my SR3 has explosion physics.


Then I finished up all the rest of the activities!  Got pretty far in the story too and did a bit of the Genki DLC.  I'm at Murderbrawl, so next time I play I'll probably finish the game up.  Been a fun ride.  I haven't been this addicted to a game in some time.  Whenever I've had any free time I've been glued to the PC doing 3-5 hour marathon sessions day after day.  Already have 25 hours logged in the last week since I started!

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I changed my BOSS from Japanese Schoolgirl Father Time to Grizzled Asian Cockney Mercenary. GAME STILL RULES.

Finished up all the Genki Bowl content last night - it's not bad, but I do hope there's a bit more meat to the upcoming packs. This one seemed like a bit of padding on the way to some more content-filled DLC. I hope.

[Bebpo]

On gaf they're tearing the DLC a new a-hole.  Haven't seen one positive impression, only people feeling ripped off.

I don't feel ripped off since umm, it was free for me   But then I sort of expected all the DLCs to just be more activities since I have low expectations for single player DLC in general in the current state of the industry.  I never expect a high effort dlc.

I'm perfectly ok with more activities as long as they are fun.  It would also be a plus if they were original and not re-skins, but fun re-skins are still fun.  From what I've played of the DLC, it is indeed fun.  However, escorting Genki was kind of sucky, but then escorting hookers was kind of ho-hum already.

[benjipwns]

I think people were expecting more missions.

[Himu]

SR2 dlc had like 2-3 missions a piece.

[Positive Touch]

plus new modes for an already-dead multiplayer!

only 7.50$ apiece

[The Sceneman]

people bitch about every fucking DLC ever.

Except for RDR Undead Nightmare, that's the golden boy of DLC everywhere (even though all it was was a re-skin of the game world with annoying zombies to fight)

[chronovore]

I thought all the DLC for Red Dead Redemption was pretty much grade-A-for-awesome, except the last one, which was free anyway.

[Bebpo]

Undead Nightmare sucked.

And this is coming from someone who thought the main game for RDR was one of the best in gaming.

[Bebpo]

Most single player DLC is disappointing because it's short and usually low budget.  You tend to get 30mins-1 hour of lower-budget-than-the-main-game gaming for $5-10.  And usually after playing a 10-30 hour satisfying game, getting a 30 min "expansion" months down the line is pretty "whatever".

When they give something substantial, such as Minerva's Den or RPG expansions like Shivering Isles or the Fallout 3/NV content (although some of those are bad too), it tends to be better received.  Or stuff like the Dead Rising 2 DLC expansions that had their own replay value.  The way Bioware handled it in Mass Effect 2 and I would assume Dragon Age is pretty good too where it's just incorporated into the main game as extra side missions.

In general though, DLC is kind of sucky outside for MP games where it adds more maps and stuff.

[chronovore]

Dead Rising had DLC?! 

[The Sceneman]

thats the first I've heard of it! *rushes to Xbox Live marketplace*

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Hey Bebpo, I don't think outfit packs count as DLC expansions, sorry.


And Undead Nightmare was good, but not as good as all the reviews made it out to be. People were throwing around comments like: "THIS is the benchmark for DLC" etc. I mean it was good value, giving an extra 8 hours (4 hours of that were boring rescue diversions mind you) of single player stuff, BUT it was 98% on the same map and locations as RDR, with one extra location at the end. And a few more dialogues which were humorous. IMO the most innovative DLC I have played is "Pigsy's Perfect 10" for Enslaved. It completely flipped the script on the original game, and turned the engine from a 3d brawler/uncharted hybrid, to a MGS style 3d stealth game. All new locations too, it was like a 4 hour mini-game all in itself. All for 800MSP. Incredible.

[Bebpo]

Case West & Case Zero   Sure they're standalone, but they're still basically DLC expansions for DR2.

[Positive Touch]

i would also like to add deus ex 3's dlc to the list of quality downloadables, even though it's a fucking ripoff at $15

[chronovore]

Case West & Case Zero   Sure they're standalone, but they're still basically DLC expansions for DR2.

I'd argue that they're either the More Genius Way To Do DLC, or fiendishly clever paid demos.

[Bebpo]

Alright, FINISHED IT + Genki DLC.

First Genki DLC.  Was kind of eh.  Yarn was a fun katamari clone version of mayhem, Sad Panda Skydiving was cool but the controls were janky as fuuuuuck.  The skydiving part felt really terrible with no weight.  murdertime funhouse apocalypse setting was alright but more of the same and escort sucked.  Also seemed more glitchy than the main game.  On the 2nd Genki escort mission I had targets I had to kill fall through the map and disappear so I had to start over TWICE.  I like all the bonus stuff you got from the DLC though with costumes, homies, and vehicles.  So it was alright I guess.

Murderbrawl was AWESOME.  The part where:

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Angel is down on the ground and the luchadores run in and start beating on him and everything in the 25 hours of game you've played has lead up to this moment where you're standing about to lose in the face of adversity and then MAGICAL CHAINSAW OUT OF NOWHERE and "You're the Best" starts playing and it's a joyous euphoria of turning the odds in a wrestling match WITH A MOTHERFUCKIN CHAINSAW.  Climax of the game for me.  So good.

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The final choice was tough.  I really wanted the more satisfying option of

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killing Killbane, but in the end I didn't want to lose my crew so I saved Shaundi.  The final mission was ok, but kind of a comedown after the awesomeness of MURDERBRAWL and the missions between DIE.DECKER.DIE and it.  Shoot a bunch of gangstas and drive around a lot -> go to the statue and knock some bombs off -> short little boss fight on top.  Was all enjoyable, just nothing to crazy.  Best part was climbing the statue.

The Gangstas in space epilogue though...wowwwww, that was pretty bad.  Like at first it was omggg SO AWESOME PLAYING RED FACTION GUERILLA IN SAINTS ROW 3!!  But then it's just really crappy combat with boring repeat the same thing x 3 level design and then really crappy final boss fight with repeat the same thing x 3.  Whoops.  Was a cute extra and having the final line be from RED FACTION GUERILLA was soooooo cooool  zomggggg  I love RFG!  But yeah, the gameplay in the last level was ghetto; I hope the Gangstas in Space DLC is not an entire DLC of that ^^;

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Will probably do the alternative ending when the next DLC comes out and I get back to the game, but going to take a break for now.  Game was really good and satisfying.  The world wasn't particularly interesting, but there was lots to do in it and almost all of it was fun.  The story missions were great and the character customization is top quality fo' sure.  The leveling up, upgrading, properties, money economy were all great and added a ton to the gameplay.  It was awesome upgrading your boss into god mode.  I wish the DLCs would raise the level cap and add new abilities though.  I hit 50 two missions before the end and it sucks finishing missions and not gaining any xp :|  But going into the final mission invincible to all attacks and with infinite ammo and no reloads was very enjoyable! 

The driving was very fun too and thumbs up to the music stations.  Even discovered a few new bands I'm going to check out from it.


Hope the THQ falling into bankruptcy and selling all the teams/ips doesn't screw over Saints Row 4.  I'd really like to see where the team goes from here.  In the meantime I'll check out SR2 down the line but I dunno if I'll enjoy it as much as SR3.  SR3 just does so many things right to make it fun and full of mass appeal.

Also hit another crazy glitch tonight where I got in my car from one of the cribs and I started driving and hit boost and suddenly I teleported across the map to an entirely different island.  Wtffffff


I also didn't realize Angel was HULK HOGAN until I saw the credits.  Makes me want to rewatch his cutscenes again, haha.


Alright, time to get back to real life after 27 hours of SR3 in a week.

[Himu]

I hope Saints Row 4 is a thing

[Positive Touch]

Will probably do the alternative ending when the next DLC comes out and I get back to the game, but going to take a break for now.

  do it now!  yeah the result of the choice you make is stupid and doesn't fit in with the rest of the story, but everything about the other path is much more epic and it feels like a way better send-off than the goofy "good" ending.  also as has been pointed out in this thread it's SAINTS ROW AS FUCK

[Positive Touch]

oh and now that i'm thinking about it, is there any way to turn off the upgrades?  i can't remember, and playing through the dlc with my fully upgraded invincible death machine prolly won't be very fun

[Howard Alan Treesong]

DO THE OTHER ENDING NOW

As Joe said, "The good ending is 'Saints Flow,' the bad ending is 'SAINTS ROW'"

[Bebpo]

Alright, will check out the other end tonight.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

when you complete the other ending, you will jump out of your window screaming "SAINTS ROWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!" as you plummet to your beautiful death

[fistfulofmetal]

The:

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Gangstas in Space

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ending is the best ending.

[bork]

Agree with Bebpo on the Genki DLC.  Felt pretty underwhelming.  Hope the next DLC is more like what SR2 offered.  I want more story/mission stuff.

[Beezy]

The:

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Gangstas in Space

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ending is the best ending.

That shit was fucking terrible.

[Bebpo]

The Genki DLC is still worth it for the bonuses.  It was really satisfying calling in my MASSIVE BALL OF YARN on the final mission of the story and rolling over everyone and their vehicles

I get the feeling that like if all the DLC is like Genki, then, like Mass Effect 2 and New Vegas, it makes the game more of a "goty complete" edition because of the way it's integrated into the main game.

[fistfulofmetal]

That shit was fucking terrible.

it was funnier than the other ending.

[Beezy]

It was less fun to play than the other ending.

[fistfulofmetal]

i didn't think either was really anything special in terms of gameplay. but I had more fun (location, what i was doing, comedy) with my ending over the stuff you did in the other ending

[Bebpo]

One thing SR4 NEEDS is a portable mp3 player to wear while running along.  The radio stations are great, however I spend like 15 seconds in a vehicle before getting out so I keep hearing 15-20 second snippets of songs instead of actually kicking ass to good music.

They could just disable it for story missions to keep the music cues.

[The Sceneman]

SR1 had that  and like a good 4 hours worth of classical music to listen to. Unfortunately SR3 takes a few steps forward and a few steps back.

I'm not complaining though, I hate most of the music in SR3