Anime-Booru Desu~ |OT|

[bork]

The movie is legitmately great, the series is pretty good [except for the second season where KyoAni poops the bed], but it's held up among the community as some pinnacle of modern storytelling, which it isn't.

  Who is saying this?

I have never seen Haruhi, but it seemed like all the fanboys rejected it after whatever happened in the second season.

[bork]

I always kind of associated Haruhi with the rise of MOE.  Never heard that term being mentioned until it came around.

[Great Rumbler]

The movie is legitmately great, the series is pretty good [except for the second season where KyoAni poops the bed], but it's held up among the community as some pinnacle of modern storytelling, which it isn't.

  Who is saying this?

I have never seen Haruhi, but it seemed like all the fanboys rejected it after whatever happened in the second season.

Well, it was pre season 2, at least. I zoned out after reading about what happened with that mess, so I might have missed where the fan base started turning away from it.

I always kind of associated Haruhi with the rise of MOE.  Never heard that term being mentioned until it came around.

I associate it more with Lucky Star, since the show actually threw the term around quite a bit.

[Momo]

The movie is legitmately great, the series is pretty good [except for the second season where KyoAni poops the bed], but it's held up among the community as some pinnacle of modern storytelling, which it isn't.

  Who is saying this?

I have never seen Haruhi, but it seemed like all the fanboys rejected it after whatever happened in the second season.

It's best to not watch the second season. Watch season one only if you're interested

[Great Rumbler]

The movie is the height of the franchise, but it makes no sense if you haven't watched at least some of season 1.

[Momo]

Moe came along before Haruhi. Haruhi and stuff like K-ON was just a convenient point of convergence as it has all of it's moe bases covered and was popular. It's actually a very enjoyable series if you ignore the fans.

[cool breeze]

Haruhi was moe filth at its core, only sometimes it put that moe filth in decent stories.   

It's not even like Working (season 1 at least), which's entire purpose is to mock dumb moe conventions.  Genshiken too but since that's an anime/manga about anime/manga nerds, it's more self aware and comments on moe, than really using moe.

[Great Rumbler]

Haruhi was moe filth at its core, only sometimes it put that moe filth in decent stories.

I just really don't see it. K-On is moe to the core, without a doubt. It's slice of life that exists for little reason other than moe. Haruhi actually does things with its characters, gives them situations to deal with and actual development of personality [to some extent]. It does play to its audience at times, but that's cetainly not what the entire show is about.

[Momo]

The punchy punch girl in Working annoys me, but I really like the series. Bakemonogatari and Durarara had some moe in it, but fuck were those brilliant.

Linkz you're being too harsh on Haruhi. I feel people hate it cause it helped popularize moe not so much for what it is, a ditzy stupid supernatural school adventure.

If you want to talk pure moe trash look no further than Toradora.

[cool breeze]

I said it put them in decent stories! most anime isn't even decent.  And while I liked it, and first season of K-on, actually, I'm comfortable enough calling them what they are without lowering my opinion.  Haruhi plays with the trope more, in that there is a history behind why a character is tsundere and sometimes acts self-aware, but that doesn't absolve it.  The only defense I'd accept is "it's not moe, but it extensively uses moe tropes;" effectively the same thing 95% of the time.

[Great Rumbler]

Moe, to me, is a series with few [if any] male characters, huge emphasis on girl-friendship, lack of drama or negative emotions. Everything played as absolutely safe as possible, with nothing in the story that forces the characters give up anything or make any sacrifices or even CHANGE. It panders to the basement-dwelling nerdlings desire to "protect" innocence, cuteness, and purity. I just don't see how Haruhi can possible fit into the mold.

[bork]

Moe came along before Haruhi. Haruhi and stuff like K-ON was just a convenient point of convergence as it has all of it's moe bases covered and was popular. It's actually a very enjoyable series if you ignore the fans.

"Moe" has been around way longer than any of that stuff, but I don't recall it being at the forefront until Haruhi came along.

I couldn't watch Lucky Star.  It was like Azumanga Daioh without the charm and slice-of-life humor.

[bork]

Moe, to me, is a series with few [if any] male characters, huge emphasis on girl-friendship, lack of drama or negative emotions. Everything played as absolutely safe as possible, with nothing in the story that forces the characters give up anything or make any sacrifices or even CHANGE. It panders to the basement-dwelling nerdlings desire to "protect" innocence, cuteness, and purity. I just don't see how Haruhi can possible fit into the mold.

Moe has to do more with the female character's personalities/design....it's not a genre.  A lot of that harem crap is certainly moe though...if not all of it. 

What just amazes me is how harem comics n' shows get recycled on a yearly basis, and nobody seems to notice or care that's it the same old shit over and over again.  HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT GUY IS SURROUNDED BY GIRLS BUT DOESN'T WANT TO GO AFTER THEM THEY GO AFTER HIM INSTEAD AND HE DOES NOTHING AND OH WACKY CHARACTERS TOO AND OH BEACH EPISODE AND OH HOT SPRINGS EPISODE NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE END ~FIN~

[brob]

Is Aria moe? my favorite character was the cat with the hat.

[Great Rumbler]

Moe, to me, is a series with few [if any] male characters, huge emphasis on girl-friendship, lack of drama or negative emotions. Everything played as absolutely safe as possible, with nothing in the story that forces the characters give up anything or make any sacrifices or even CHANGE. It panders to the basement-dwelling nerdlings desire to "protect" innocence, cuteness, and purity. I just don't see how Haruhi can possible fit into the mold.

Moe has to do more with the bubbly-bouncy-energetic girl personalities.

That's certainly part of it, but I don't think that alone really ecapsulates the entire definition.

And I don't really think Haruhi [the character] can really be labeled "tsundere", she's more like...totally self-absorbed with minimal awareness beyond her own pursuits.

Is Aria moe? my favorite character was the cat with the hat.

It's a fine line between moe and plain slice-of-life, but Aria makes it by because it doesn't come across as pandering.

[bork]

I'll never understand all those "hilarious" and "cute" anime shit. I'm in it for the violence and superpowered shit.

You think I'm joking? My main reason for watching any anime was the badass fights, Dragonball Z just happened to be badass all around.

But Dragonball has "hilarious" and "cute" shit too...and lots of bizarro-wacky character designs and names!

I enjoyed Dragonball but have never been able to get into any similar long-running action series.  Everything just ends up reminding me of Dragonball or just drags on and on and gets boring as shit. 

[Great Rumbler]

I'll never understand all those "hilarious" and "cute" anime shit. I'm in it for the violence and superpowered shit.

You think I'm joking? My main reason for watching any anime was the badass fights, Dragonball Z just happened to be badass all around.

But Dragonball has "hilarious" and "cute" shit too...and lots of bizarro-wacky character designs and names!

I enjoyed Dragonball but have never been able to get into any similar long-running action series.  Everything just ends up reminding me of Dragonball or just drags on and on and gets boring as shit. 

I never could either. 100+ episodes shounen shows have just never interested me. Give me a good 13-26 episode series with a beginning, middle, and end.

[bork]

It works for me when it's manga. 

I'm finally reading through Battle Angel Last Order (which is Wrath you should check it out) and it's been awesome.

[Momo]

Moe came along before Haruhi. Haruhi and stuff like K-ON was just a convenient point of convergence as it has all of it's moe bases covered and was popular. It's actually a very enjoyable series if you ignore the fans.

"Moe" has been around way longer than any of that stuff, but I don't recall it being at the forefront until Haruhi came along.

I couldn't watch Lucky Star.  It was like Azumanga Daioh without the charm and slice-of-life humor.

I agree 100% with this post

[Great Rumbler]

All this moe talk is scrambling my brain, so here:

[Momo]

Senjougahara is "moe" to some but not to others. Moe just means "your type"

@Count watch Natsu no Arashi or School Rumble(both from the same guy), the funny shit in there is actually .. funny. Or watch Golden boy.

[cool breeze]

Hunter X Hunter is the best shonen manga because it's a collection of short series sharing characters.  Every arc is different, whereas Naruto/DBZ/Bleach/etc just replace one final boss for another final boss.

[Phoenix Dark]

All this moe talk is scrambling my brain, so here:

wtf @ the scene of kids getting blown apart by machine guns 

[Momo]

Hunter X Hunter is the best shonen manga because it's a collection of short series sharing characters.  Every arc is different, whereas Naruto/DBZ/Bleach/etc just replace one final boss for another final boss.

HxH is amazing when Togashi isnt being a hideous fucking troll. IMO Yu Yu Hakusho and HxH will always be figthing for top shounen of all time and creation. I have a soft spot for Getbackers too.

Also this thread could use some Vagabond kill scenes and Gantz madness

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[bork]

It works for me when it's manga. 

I'm finally reading through Battle Angel Last Order (which is Wrath you should check it out) and it's been awesome.

How many chapters?

There's quite a lot and there's multiple series.  Battle Angel is nine volumes long, then there's the very small Ashen Victor, followed by Last Order, which retcons the end of Battle Angel and keeps it going.  I think it's around 15-16 volumes long now; still on-going.

[Great Rumbler]

All this moe talk is scrambling my brain, so here:

wtf @ the scene of kids getting blown apart by machine guns 

That's from Genocyber, it's incredibly violent but I really can't recommend watching it.

[Great Rumbler]

But it also has MOE!

[Momo]

Everything has moe, everything. There isnt a single tv show/movie/anime/manga without it, what people refer to as "moe" anime are those that turn up the fan service or knowingly try and appeal to the most neckbearded neckbeards.

[Bebpo]

Star Driver continues Bones' tradition of having pure bomba status in both the Japanese and US anime market.

I got my vol.1 today and tried to do a UPC scan to add it to my collection, and it's not even in the system.  Meaning no one else using the database even owns it.  Then I go and check online and despite it having come out a week ago, there isn't a single review on the internet.  Blu-ray.com doesn't even have any user reviews of it!

Man, nobody is buying this 

[Joe Molotov]

Everything has moe, everything. There isnt a single tv show/movie/anime/manga without it, what people refer to as "moe" anime are those that turn up the fan service or knowingly try and appeal to the most neckbearded neckbeards.

Wrong.

[brob]

There's a little girl crying in the intro of that show. DISMISSED.

[Momo]

I'm sorry but you have already posted moe.

[Himu]

this thread no longer interests nor caters to me.

further proof why government intervention is always a bad thing.

agree

back to ignoring the anime thread

[Himu]

@Count watch Natsu no Arashi or School Rumble(both from the same guy), the funny shit in there is actually .. funny. Or watch Golden boy.

jesus christ

just...don't do this

don't do this

[Momo]

Did Kobayashi Jin piss in your fruit loops?

[Himu]

No, you're just suggesting him bad comedy anime.

I've already suggested him Genshiken.



I'd also suggest he check out Detroit Metal City and Cromartie.





In other words, never suggest blindly. School Rumble is anti-Wrath. Always consider the person's taste when giving suggestions. School Rumble's not that great anyways, though it's a guilty pleasure.

[Himu]

I WILL NOT STAND DOWN. THIS WAS AN AWESOME ANIME THREAD. IT WILL REMAIN AN AWESOME ANIME THREAD.

[Momo]

Yes Cromartie is good, but come on School Rumble and Natsu bad? lolololololololololol

[chronovore]

You are the one who started in with shut the fuck up, so yes. Chillax.

And no, I see no reason to discuss it further in a PM because that's silly. I don't need to make some kind of appeal to you.

Spencer, you should try "counting to ten" once in a while.

[Momo]

See you next dickering space cowboys

[Phoenix Dark]

All this moe talk is scrambling my brain, so here:

wtf @ the scene of kids getting blown apart by machine guns 

That's from Genocyber, it's incredibly violent but I really can't recommend watching it.

smh 

[cool breeze]

School Rumble is good for the most part.  Never heard of that Natsu thing.

[Momo]

^also made by Kobayashi Jin. Has some school rumble references 

[magus]

i liked the first episode of school rumble but near the middle it turns into a romance drama and those are

the comedy anime i suggest to everybody is of course,this

[chronovore]

Just showed my kids Cagliostro's Castle (Lupin III). This movie is every bit as good as I remember it being. As this was the first time I've seen it in 10 or more years, it was also the first time I've understood the dialog.

Do I need to put in smilies for you to understand I'm not emotionally engaged? Were the words chillax and silly not enough context clues? Jump off this dyck space cowboys!

Wasn't there something in another thread where you mentioned having blown up inappropriately? This had a similar tone, so I thought you'd done that again.

[bork]

You are the one who started in with shut the fuck up, so yes. Chillax.

And no, I see no reason to discuss it further in a PM because that's silly. I don't need to make some kind of appeal to you.

Spencer, you should try "counting to ten" once in a while.

Seriously, enough.  I told Spencer to take it to PM because I don't want to see this thread get derailed with nonsense. 

[Beezy]

Just skimmed through this thread. Best parts were the 80s anime worship and Himu's "thank you Sci-Fi channel" post. :'(

[Momo]

Star Driver

When I hear this name I think of

[Momo]

Lyte closed the other anime thread because he hates anime and was mad that we had two thread about animeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

everytime I read someone getting mad over anime I picture the Haruhi butt frestrations image.

I'm almost afraid to ask for that, plus what the fuck is Haruhi?

I found the image, it's on my work pc

[Great Rumbler]

Comedy anime? Try this:

Kuuchuu Buranko [Trapeze]
Tentai Senshi Sunred
Moyashimon
Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
Level E
Soredemo Machi
Magical Witch Punie-chan
Gokusen
Working

[Momo]

Full Metal Panic makes me sad because it cant decide if it wants to be a comedy or a regular show

[Great Rumbler]

Full Metal Panic makes me sad because it cant decide if it wants to be a comedy or a regular show

I don't know anything about this "Full Metal Panic" of which you speak, but there is this show called "Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu" that is an absolutely hilarious comedy series.

[Himu]

Full Metal Panic makes me sad because it cant decide if it wants to be a comedy or a regular show

Fumoffu is a comedy series. It is the Looney Tunes of anime.

[Himu]

So is Azumanga Daioh considered moe too? This is a new word for my vocab

No. Moe is a sexualization of characters to me. Azumanga is pre-moe fad.

[Himu]

Originally, it was one of the best threads on the board. Then people starting talking about modern shit.

[MCD]

>Modern shit

Oh please, you are the reason why this thread sucks, MR. NOSTALGIA cigarillo.

All you guys do is recommend old ass shit and ignore every fucking new anime that comes outta Nippon's asshole.

And then you guys have the fucking nerve to recommend GUNDAM FUCKING AGE. Even Bebpo shat on that one and he likes K-on. K-ON!

[Momo]

Full Metal Panic makes me sad because it cant decide if it wants to be a comedy or a regular show

Fumoffu is a comedy series. It is the Looney Tunes of anime.

I have watched all of FMP, fomoffu included. It's really hard to flip flop between Fomoffu and the regular FMP though.

[Momo]

So is Azumanga Daioh considered moe too? This is a new word for my vocab

No. Moe is a sexualization of characters to me. Azumanga is pre-moe fad.

This thread has taught me that we all have different views of what moe is

@General topic of the moment.
God I love 80's and 90's anime, captain tsubasa, the harlocks, the space battleships, the spriggans, the ghosts in the shell, the yu yu hakusho, the black jacks and such. But to pretend that a fat heap of shit dint come out around these shows is revisionist history and nostalgia glasses at it's peak. You guys most likely weren't exposed to the shit that came out as less shows traveled west during this period.

With the advent of the internet you now just get to see how much mind numbing crap comes out as well. It's always been this way, always. The amount of great shows in the 2000's are on par, if not more than the 80's/90's. The Black Lagoons, Bakemonogatari's, FLCL's, Ghost in the Shell SAC, Girl who leaped through time, Ghibli stuff, Sword of the Stranger, durarara!, Baccano, xxxHolic,  Garden of Sinners and what have you.

I'm happy to go down memory lane at any time, as I said I love the anime of that period, but let's not pretend modern anime is in any way inferior.

[Himu]

Full Metal Panic makes me sad because it cant decide if it wants to be a comedy or a regular show

Fumoffu is a comedy series. It is the Looney Tunes of anime.

I have watched all of FMP, fomoffu included. It's really hard to flip flop between Fomoffu and the regular FMP though.

that's cuz regular fmp sucks

>Modern shit

Oh please, you are the reason why this thread sucks, MR. NOSTALGIA cigarillo.

All you guys do is recommend old ass shit and ignore every fucking new anime that comes outta Nippon's asshole.

And then you guys have the fucking nerve to recommend GUNDAM FUCKING AGE. Even Bebpo shat on that one and he likes K-on. K-ON!

@ this post

I don't shit on every new anime. Just most of them!  Also, no one recommended Gundam AGE, I said I couldn't know if I recommend it until it hit at least 25 episodes.

[Momo]

Most anime is shit though, if I had to pull a number out of my ass 86.7%