lets watch the VGAs

[recursivelyenumerable]

Aren't a lot of the recent Japanese cultural pathologies really due to the shitty economic situation they've been in for the last couple decades? So we can expect the same sort of things to sprout here more and more.

[Don Flamenco]

wise beyond her years. god-tier justification

I imagine kids living in a "society has collapsed and you are in constant danger" scenario tend to wise up fast.

And if they were some of the last fertile females on earth, it would be for the good of mankind that you were having sex with them. You'd practically be a hero!

many gaffers have already felt the suspension of disbelief and have thrust themselves into the role of the hero

[Don Flamenco]

Aren't a lot of the recent Japanese cultural pathologies really due to the shitty economic situation they've been in for the last couple decades? So we can expect the same sort of things to sprout here more and more.

There's some growing disillusionment-- baby boomers told Gen X/Y to "just jump through the undergrad hoop and you're good to go!"  and that's turning out to be so not even close to true.  people who relied on this and didn't see a huge need to be an innovative go getter self starter are getting screwed as a result and told they're lazy.  every degree but medicine and engineering seem to be devalued.

but i hope it doesn't lead to love pillows.  actually, i'd be much more afraid of american pathology in the face of trouble.  prob much more violent than the Japanese.

[fistfulofmetal]

I am very interested in seeing if The Last of Us is going to be a genuine serious take on the zombie apocalypse genre. There hasn't really been one. I trust Naughty Dog's ability to tell a story, I want to know if they can tell a serious story and not the camp stuff we see in Uncharted.

[Trent Dole]

yeah, this is definitely looking like the last year of games before a new console generation

This gen is kinda crazy long. 360 launched in 2005 and its successor isn't coming until 2013. We've been at the ceiling for what the current machines can do for a while now.

[brob]

I am very interested in seeing if The Last of Us is going to be a genuine serious take on the zombie apocalypse genre.

no.

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah, this is definitely looking like the last year of games before a new console generation

This gen is kinda crazy long. 360 launched in 2005 and its successor isn't coming until 2013. We've been at the ceiling for what the current machines can do for a while now.

Yeah, it's definitely a console swan song year, games are starting to circle around on themselves. Starhawk, Halo 4, GTAV, etc.  I'm actually looking forward to a new round of consoles, and glad some games (like the next Red Dead) won't come out until then.

[cool breeze]

I think we'll still be seeing this gen games until 2013, even though new consoles might come out.  PS2 was still kicking it in 2006.

Wii U is probably going to share a lot of games with Vita, while the loop and PS4 move on.

I am very interested in seeing if The Last of Us is going to be a genuine serious take on the zombie apocalypse genre. There hasn't really been one. I trust Naughty Dog's ability to tell a story, I want to know if they can tell a serious story and not the camp stuff we see in Uncharted.

I don't really care much for the story as much as I would for an experiencing somewhat mimicking survival.  I mean, it isn't survival if you're expected to get through it.  If ND tried something interesting with the gameplay, where there wasn't a goal other than survival, maybe had procedural elements, and story was entirely dependent on actions and how characters react, then yeah, it could be great.

I'd be disappointed if it was just "we have to find x to solve y" and it was about a journey.  well not really because that could be cool too.  I just think a game that really embraces survival could be great.  It probably won't be this game, because if the girl or guy die it would be game over and you'll never deal with the consequences.  even simple things, like without a partner you can't carry as many supplies, some places couldn't be accessed alone, some other survivors react differently, etc.  I'm rambling now.

[Oblivion]

How the hell is this filth still going? I remember seeing the very first one in 2003, and thought it would never be replicated. Why?   

[Himu]

anything good come from this

[brob]

anything good come from this

tony hawk

[Himu]

MGS, Alan Wake, Bioshock short clip, ME3 short clip, Last Of Us is a new IP by Naughty Dog that could be cool even if t uses Zombies, Epic's new game is zombie tower defense, Tony Hawk HD remake which is awesome, Hitman!, and that's about it

[cool breeze]

stubbs the zombie for xbox was pretty cool.  you played a zombie and it was set in the 1950s, but was a comedy game.   kinda like destroy all humans (I think that was the name...the pandemic one where you played an alien)


edit: holy shit there were 4 destroy all humans game? the fuck

[Great Rumbler]

Epic's new game is zombie tower defense

[Himu]

Play Stubbs the Zombie.

No really go play it, best Zombie game ever.

.

[Vizzys]

zzzzzombies

[Trent Dole]

I MAED
A GAEM
WITH
ZOM
BIES
IN IT

[MCD]

The girl having here ovulation cycle may be too mature for some but I think being used once through the game and finding a convenience store to get tampons would be cool if used correctly and once during the game since there may be a day and night cycle.

PS3 fans.

[MCD]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33364082&postcount=1406

And oh...gifs everywhere, someone please post that Silent Hill guy gif to shut them up.

[cool breeze]

it would be cool if it wasn't a scripted sequence.  it's a trope of zombie fiction that's not really handled in games.  the mundane can be vaguely interesting if finding tampons was a dynamic objective.  you have to find the store, plan around the zombies, other survivors, or any environmental hazards.  you're not sure if the survivors are hostile, so you have the choice to start a dialog, or engage them in combat, or use stealth to sneak in unnoticed.  and instead making it unscripted means it's not some scene like "UR BLEEDING R U BIT... oooo ," you could be working to get past a blockade, and suddenly "objective: she's periodin" pops up and you gotta adapt.

I'd be down for move support if it had an expanded MGS3 healing system with Trauma Center wii controls.  Waggle to tampon. 

[Owl-faced Wizard]

http://www.kloonigames.com/blog/games/bloody

Best zombie game ever, by far.

[pilonv1]

developers like zombie games because they don't have to program decent ai

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Epic's Minecraft/Team Fortress/Zombie/Tower Defence looks shameless but I was rolling my eyes pretty damn hard at the 'has to be a cheap downloadable' comments.  The barest whiff of non-realism and the mouthbreathers decide it can't be full-priced retail.

[Timber]

If the Epic game is actually derivative of proven mechanics and has a good L4Dish procedural thing going then I can see their game being cool. At least the trailer promises a game instead of a po-faced NARRATIVE EXPERIENCE like Aeroshock/Zombie Dog.

[Vertigo]

Bloody heck that 'Last Of Them' thread has gone interstellar distinguished mentally-challenged fellow the Gif boys are getting lots of use out of them. and the OMG NAUGHTY GODS posting is just 

I like ND but they deal in spectacle. I don't think they have it in them to have game with little combat and more exploration ala first Tomb Raider i mean how scary was that game when you went ages without coming across any other life. I want every encounter to actually be scary when we come across 'infected' or hostile humans although i do have to ask why if humans are dying out people would happily kill other humans, surely surviving together is more wiser but whatever...

[Third]

That's because humans are usually worse than the zombies.

Look at a movie like 28 Days Later, or read a novel like The Stand. Humans will eventually make the situation worse than it actually is...

If it weren't for a society and its rules, humans wouldn't be nothing more than just filthy savages.

[Vertigo]

You're  probably right.

Have a look at how some of us behave when their are half price consumer items on sale. Ready to trample over one another to get the cheap goods. If something cataclysmic did happen on this planet i'd say most people would be killers by the end of the first week. 

[drew]

Another zombie game? Jesus fuck this I'm done.

you guys do this to yourself, really. ignore the bad ones and play/love the good ones that come out once every so often

[iconoclast]

The lead designer for Enslaved is working on Last of Us as well. That's a good pick up for Naughty Dog, he should fit right in.

[Don Flamenco]

2005: RE4
2006: replayed RE4, played Dead Rising
2007: replayed RE4
2008: replayed RE4
2009: replayed RE4
2010: replayed RE4
2011: replayed RE4
2012: Last Of Us

fucking zombie games everywhere JEEZ

[Eel O'Brian]

i am as tired of the zombie theme as anyone, but two of my favorite games over the past year or so have featured zombies (dead island and red dead undead nightmare), so i guess it all depends on what they do with it

[Don Flamenco]

at the risk of sounding like NAUGHTY GODS  

i was legitimately impressed with the Road-esque tone (though the girl is empowered vs. the boy in the road), the fungus zombie, teh graphics, and well, it was all just pretty intriguing, unlike most trailers for all games.  just gotta see that gameplay.  for all we know it's an arena twin stick shooter

[duckman2000]

Well, Naughty Dog is damned good at making games, so I'm interested. As for the theme, I'm always up for a good zombie game. Given that it's Naughty Dog it will probably be great, so hurrah.

[Smooth Groove]

So basically they gather up all the people that would rather make movies but are stuck making games?  Great idea!

[MCD]

[duckman2000]

sort of reminds me of that chick from Inception, whatsherface

[Timber]

That's her face right there, the one on the right.

[brob]

she looks like a pixar cartoon. or a person who has had multiple cosmetic surgeries to look like a pixar cartoon...

shit i dont know real talk tho she ugly

[tiesto]

I didn't watch it, what did the mau5 do on the show?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

existed

[cool breeze]

more info came out about the Last of US.  firstly, they say it's not going to about the zombies, but the relationship between Juno and the guy.  Which sounds like they're going to stray from a 'finding a cure' plot.

also, Gustavo Santaolalla is doing the music

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-13-the-last-of-us-scored-by-oscar-winner-gustavo-santaolalla

(wondering if this should just be changed to a Last of Us thread, or just make a separate thread)

[drew]

is this augmented reality thing real? it can't be.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Like the Uncharted games, The Last of Us has a third-person perspective, in which you see the character on-screen, but it has a more realistic, cinematic look. "We're trying to move the medium of video games into an area elevated in the same manner of respect of film," Balestra says. "We want to redefine what our medium is even called. 'Video game' is not an accurate name anymore. It is not necessarily a game with rules and a winner and a loser. It's an experience."

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...&dlvrit=110941

 

 :'(

[Great Rumbler]

      

[iconoclast]

  cinematic experiences are about half a step above Nintendo's non-games. modern gaming

[Himu]

Cinematic experiences? What happened to Naughty Dog? Going from tight platformers to this?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

 

Well there goes any chance of that being good. Fortnite sounds like it could be cool though.

[Timber]

Stooping so low as to use the "redefining the medium" line means Naughty Dog have fully embraced their inner David Cage. Press x to shout "Ellen Page where areee youu i'm just gonna weep with raaaw emotion if you got et by a zombie ooh myy good the new york times are gonna looove this."

[brob]

I knew it. Hollywood gaming deluxe. Naught-y Dogs indeed.

[cool breeze]

That quote sounds bad but reading it optimistically, maybe he means it doesn't have a linear progression, like beginning to end, but a prolonged experience.  The story comes from the gameplay, in that your interactions with the other character drives it forward.  Making a game that tells a story unique to video games, instead of aping cinema.  And because it's about survival, you can't win or lose, because dying or living on are both equally valid 'endings' to your experience; dying isn't game over with continues but a diegetic concept.  Emergent, non euclidean, procedural, other buzz words.  The Last of Us will be a BBC in gaming's sea of limp white penisi.  By denying this game its due credit, you're basically justifying slavery of your prefrontal cortex.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

but seriously, I wonder how many pipes will break as you're climbing them.  tension, huzzah!

[close]

[brob]

lzg, that post upsets my delicate sensibilities. because I know gaf will be aflutter with such nonsense, and even after the game comes out their minds will contort in such ways as to say it lived up to these absurd expectations. And they will be loud and shameless.
 

[Trent Dole]

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[Don Flamenco]

the thing that's annoying about that quote is that it's still obviously going to be a game.  He's just talking about covering up the game aspects, but he's using the douchiest language possible.  One way to do this is with autoplatforming.  But you can't gloss over the fact that zombies eating your head = death and reload screen.  by "cinematic," they mean ellen page will yell "Leon Noooooooo!" when you die and probably over 9000 hours of cutscenes/QTE sequences.

[brob]

remember that part in uncharted 3 where you got chased by museum security? fail states all over the fucking place, you had to run it exactly like they wanted. that is what I get from this quote. "as long as you do what we want you to, it's gonna look great!"

[Don Flamenco]

remember that part in uncharted 3 where you got chased by museum security? fail states all over the fucking place, you had to run it exactly like they wanted. that is what I get from this quote. "as long as you do what we want you to, it's gonna look great!"

yep, there's just no way to "un-game" a section where you have control, except to make it arbitrarily finicky and against the logic of the  person in control.  Except, you know, to make it a movie. 

hey waitaminute...why don't these fucks just make "gritty, mature" Pixar movies?!   (also, loved Jeff Keighley's generic use of gritty and mature to describe this game.)  Come to think of it "Why don't devs of cinematic games just make animated movies?" might be a fun topic on gaf...one of you unbanned folks should do that (curseofthegods)  be sure to say it's in response to Naughty Dog's quotes for extra joy.

[brob]

Why would they put themselves in a pond with fish who are skilled in their craft, when they can just play catch-up to films in the video game space and get lauded for it?

[Don Flamenco]

I don't know...i guess just because i say so

[brob]

maybe naughty dog will lose the pretense and eventually start calling their products visual interactive fiction or some such.

[Brehvolution]

Mojo

How's it been bro?

[Brehvolution]

Good so far. You get that other job?