Author Topic: Official Consoles Are For Losers thread (Read 429849 times)

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #720 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:10:54 PM »

Why B?

archnemesis · « **Reply #721 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:12:03 PM »

That was my plan too, but for some reason there is a Wii U in my living room.

Quote from: Premium Lager on January 02, 2013, 01:10:54 PM

Why B?

I can't answer for him, but I find Microsoft's first party exclusives lacking. Besides Gears of War, Halo, Forza, and maybe Fable there aren't many exclusives that don't end up on Steam sooner or later.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #722 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:13:39 PM »

i would make some declaration but i'll probably do the same thing I did this gen-- bounce back and forth between the two, playing exclusives.

Really have to see how they're both handling BC with all the DD games we bought this gen first. That's a bit of a nail biter, to be honest. Seems like it would instantly sink a company to not have DD games be BC, but hey, games industry

maxy · « **Reply #723 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:14:16 PM »

Quote from: Borys on January 02, 2013, 01:05:46 PM

Only PS3 for me next gen.

Fixed.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #724 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:15:36 PM »

Ive had every console since the 32 bit gen but now I really dont have the time/money to juggle all that stuff.

Will buy the same as my mates in holland so we can play once a year prob.

Tasty · « **Reply #725 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:19:03 PM »

Quote from: MCD on January 02, 2013, 12:33:05 PM

http://majornelson.com/2013/01/02/countdown-to-e3-2013/

You guys ready?

Bring it, I want things to be interesting next gen. If this fails then that's probably it for the industry and crashola here we come.

I will laugh my ass off at whatever they end up calling it though. "Xbox 8" "Xbox Loop" "Xbox Infinite"

archnemesis · « **Reply #726 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:23:18 PM »

I will most likely buy a PS4 unless Sony screws up and makes it a weak system with gimmick controls. In that case I'll stick to PC gaming for a while.

Tasty · « **Reply #727 on:** January 02, 2013, 02:24:36 PM »

I doubt Wii U will be emulated with reasonable performance any time soon. It'll happen quicker than PS3 and 360 emulation but it still won't be for a while I think.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #728 on:** January 02, 2013, 03:35:55 PM »

If MS announces at E3 for a fall release. I'm down for whatever and will almost certainly purchase it. I will only own one next gen console. A PC and whatever ios platform I own. Have no interest in Nintendo anymore and owning a ps 3 this late in the gen for me has been redundant at best.

Tasty · « **Reply #729 on:** January 02, 2013, 03:55:33 PM »

I might buy it at launch if it's BC, but it's Microsoft so it won't be.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #730 on:** January 02, 2013, 04:35:44 PM »

Youre kind of right bout those exclusives but PC didnt get Halo, Gears 2/3, Forza etc.

I think my laptop def wont handle next gen games so its either upgrade or get a new console.

Im still not sure PC will get the 3rd party support it has now... For some reason I think most games will go to consoles in the beginning, to push sells and whatnot.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #731 on:** January 02, 2013, 04:37:06 PM »

prob won't buy either of the two at launch

maxy · « **Reply #732 on:** January 02, 2013, 05:24:48 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on January 02, 2013, 03:55:33 PM

I might buy it at launch if it's BC, but it's Microsoft so it won't be.

So far every 720 rumor is in favor of BC.

MS will have a huge shitstorm if digital stuff is not transferable.

Some nerd on gaf claims to know some shit

GDC?

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Developer leak? Sooner. Simply due to them chomping at the bit to talk about what they are working on and how much they can do. It is already at a breaking point. Just read some of the interviews. Even interviews with NO real connection to next gen you get some yahoo trying to put some data in there. There is a very clear reason. Devs need to spread the word as well.

Official. MS will do their own event but not sure on the timing.

Additionally people not directly involved in games but in other bits of the systems. Television partners , and so on will probably leak as well.

September launch,if things go well

maxy · « **Reply #733 on:** January 02, 2013, 07:03:15 PM »

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/2/3829276/microsoft-reportedly-acquires-home-automation-startup-r2-studios-for-xbox-team

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We knew that R2 studios, a startup from the creators of the Slingbox that was focused on home automation solutions, had been courting acquisition offers from the likes of Apple and Google — but the Wall Street Journal is reporting that Microsoft was the company that was able to close the deal. The news breaks less than a week after Blake Krikorian, one of the founders of id8 Group R2 Studios Inc., stepped down from the Board of Directors at Amazon.

The price of the deal was not disclosed, but according to the WSJ Microsoft also acquired several patents owned by R2 Studios that covered controlling various electronic devices. The report also states that the R2 Studios had been working on different ways to distribute and display content on televisions, a goal that would line up nicely with Microsoft's ambitions to make the Xbox the center of the living room.

The company has been aggressively rolling out non-gaming additions to the Xbox experience in the past year, including numerous content deals and the SmartGlass second-screen application.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #734 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:01:35 PM »

Going to get both at or near launch. Never done this before (owning all systems) so this is new and exciting to me.

cool breeze · « **Reply #735 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:41:44 PM »

I think Microsoft will have better hardware and services, and I think Sony will have better exclusives. Microsoft doesn't have many studios or franchises I care about. A lot of that can change, but it's not like how it was.

To be fair, things are different for both of them. People, myself include, bought the PS3 for the potential we thought it'd have based on the PS2. Most of those big PS2 franchises came to 360, day and date. Even Metal Gear isn't exclusive and MGS4 was one of the big draws for the system...before people played it. So few third party exclusives these days that there's no real difference to these systems. Although, the rumor of Bungie's Destiny staying exclusive to the Xbox could be interesting if it pans out. One of the advantages the 360 had back then was being the only next gen console. Dead Rising, Saint's Row, GRAW, fukin Table Tennis, Fight Night, etc. made that first year great.

Me being dumb and thinking of it in this gens terms. Can't realistically predict how things will turn out from how different the PS2-era was from the 360-era.

maxy · « **Reply #736 on:** January 03, 2013, 10:35:52 PM »

gaf dude that claims to have a good source

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BC is in though in some form, if my source continues to be correct and he seemed adamant on that.

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I will basically breakdown what has already been said in the other thread. The person I talked too, recently, who has now been spot on with everything the past 4-6 weeks, and before that as well, down to the day and date of each announcement, stated clearly that MS's goal is to return to the release style of the epic year everyone remembers as the core gamers year. At least sticking with that mentality for 2-3 years internally(core IP studios and sub studios), backed up by the new studios they opened recently, and as far back as 1.3 years ago. Additionally their goal, bar none, is to dominate the living room in every way, despite any obstacle whatsoever as this is the last true gen where the living room can be won for all groups, starting with core gamers. You can see the other thread for some of the other stuff I posted about, the day before the announcements, including today's as well as the rumors about the hardware in the new system. It is honestly a take no prisoners do anything attitude to take the space starting with gamers but also incorporating other parties.

Take that with whatever you wish. By looking at the days and dates of posts you can see what has been said, more importantly when.

Kinect is in though

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But change your thinking about Kinectn OR Kinectplace, or Kinecthome, or what have you. There is a whole new bird there...flying around.

It is indeed. Especially if Kinect(whatever) isn't just a rehash

Also no anti-used games tech for MS

mjemirzian · « **Reply #737 on:** January 04, 2013, 01:16:26 AM »

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #738 on:** January 04, 2013, 02:31:34 AM »

Fucking kinect

maxy · « **Reply #739 on:** January 04, 2013, 07:57:01 AM »

Quote from: mjemirzian on January 04, 2013, 01:16:26 AM

M$ cool aid

mhhmmm,tasty

join the hype train bro,I promise nothing will happen to you

archnemesis · « **Reply #740 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:00:18 AM »

The current-gen Kinect bundle is already $299. How will Microsoft be able to launch a high-powered next-gen system with a bundled Kinect at a reasonable price? Won't that put them in danger of being a $100 more expensive compared to their closest competitor?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #741 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:06:06 AM »

I don't think Kinect is expensive tech wise (just a 10 buck camera?), it's just the R&D of movement recognition software probably (but I have no clue really).

archnemesis · « **Reply #742 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:14:01 AM »

The tech in the current Kinect isn't very expensive (640x480@30Hz RGB camera, 640x480@30Hz IR camera), but just the surrounding parts will cost a bit extra. I'm sure they can add one if they keep the tech at the same level, but I was expecting an upgrade so it could actually do things as advertised. Aren't they getting tired of reviews moaning about unresponsive controls?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #743 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:17:37 AM »

Well with the extra power in Durango the tech side is covered.

HD webcams are like 30 bucks from Logitech, bet MS gets that shit for 15/10.

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-960-000585-HD-Webcam-C310/dp/B003LVZO8S

maxy · « **Reply #744 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:25:01 AM »

I doubt next Kinect will be unresponsive.I think the biggest complaints will be fixed because that is how hardware(MS) world works.

They will probably have something new in a year or two(tied to Kinect).

Quote from: archnemesis on January 04, 2013, 08:00:18 AM

The current-gen Kinect bundle is already $299. How will Microsoft be able to launch a high-powered next-gen system with a bundled Kinect at a reasonable price? Won't that put them in danger of being a $100 more expensive compared to their closest competitor?

Rumors say that MS will have multiple(very distinct) systems and subscriptions.

Sounds like a mess to me,but we shall see.

archnemesis · « **Reply #745 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:36:37 AM »

It depends what they want to use it for. The tech is many years away from replacing traditional control methods. It won't be able to detect pedal motions or distinguish minute hand movments, like in this Forza Kinect live demo. However, I'm sure it could be a great complement to a gamepad if it just could read larger motions correctly. Didn't the Steel Battalion game try to implement this? Or maybe that was Kinect only.

I strongly believe that a subscription model could be a huge success in the US where people are used of buying things on credit. That would also make it a lot easier to include a Kinect, a headset, a large HDD etc.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #746 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:43:04 AM »

yeah, they're doing the subscription thing in Best Buy and Gamestop stores here now with the 360, that'll probably be a big selling point for the 720/Durango/whatever.

maxy · « **Reply #747 on:** January 04, 2013, 09:02:54 AM »

Quote from: archnemesis on January 04, 2013, 08:36:37 AM

It depends what they want to use it for. The tech is many years away from replacing traditional control methods. It won't be able to detect pedal motions or distinguish minute hand movments, like in this Forza Kinect live demo. However, I'm sure it could be a great complement to a gamepad if it just could read larger motions correctly. Didn't the Steel Battalion game try to implement this? Or maybe that was Kinect only.

I strongly believe that a subscription model could be a huge success in the US where people are used of buying things on credit. That would also make it a lot easier to include a Kinect, a headset, a large HDD etc.

I don't think Kinect will ever be able to replace traditional controls.Direct brain control...perhaps

Kinect is all about expanding the audience--active gameplay,holodeck,oh oh

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #748 on:** January 04, 2013, 09:40:00 AM »

I'm expecting actual games (non-kinect) will take up about 5% of the reveal. The presentation will be all about the extra services and shit, as they've been doing with the 360 over the years.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #749 on:** January 04, 2013, 09:45:37 AM »

here's an exciting music video full of jump-cuts and manic people showing how you can pay an extra $60 a year to watch hulu

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #750 on:** January 04, 2013, 09:46:56 AM »

Im pretty sure they will focus on some hardcore games the first 1/2 years.

That says nothing about the presentation though, since thats for casuals.

Diunx · « **Reply #751 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:05:49 AM »

Will probably enter current gen once the new one kicks off.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #752 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:07:50 AM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 04, 2013, 09:45:37 AM

here's an exciting music video full of jump-cuts and manic people showing how you can pay an extra $60 a year to watch hulu

At the end Don Mattrick starts walking off stage, but then turns around: "Oh wait, there's one more thing...ladies and gentleman, I'm pleased to bring with me on stage Chip Johnson, CEO of Sportsmart, to tell us about the built-in Sportsmart online store in the Nike Fitness app."

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #753 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:16:34 AM »

"And everyone in the audience will be getting a FREE Sportsmart™ Nike™ SweatBeat™ Kinect™ PulseFit™ Headband!"

Tasty · « **Reply #754 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:29:50 AM »

Preview of MS E3 2013:

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #755 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:30:53 AM »

People won't play games next generation, they'll just spend all their time wrangling with DRM, app stores, downloading DLC, watching advertisements, and punching themselves in the crotch.

Tasty · « **Reply #756 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:33:21 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 10:30:53 AM

People won't play games next generation, they'll just spend all their time wrangling with DRM, app stores, downloading DLC, watching advertisements, and punching themselves in the crotch.

Still better than becoming an elitist PC lamer.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #757 on:** January 04, 2013, 11:07:55 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #758 on:** January 04, 2013, 11:27:59 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 10:30:53 AM

People won't play games next generation, they'll just spend all their time wrangling with DRM, app stores, downloading DLC, watching advertisements, and punching themselves in the crotch.

i think you mean they will be using netflix

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #759 on:** January 04, 2013, 11:36:59 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 04, 2013, 11:27:59 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 04, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
People won't play games next generation, they'll just spend all their time wrangling with DRM, app stores, downloading DLC, watching advertisements, and punching themselves in the crotch.

i think you mean they will be using netflix

but they already have Wiis hooked up to their 68" LED FLATSCREEN OLED LCD PLASMA SCREEN 3D FACEFUCK TVs.

with composite cables.

edit: and if you try to rectify the situation, they get intimidated as soon as you mention HDMI.

maxy · « **Reply #760 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:53:10 PM »

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And it’s on...

http://majornelson.com/2013/01/02/countdown-to-e3-2013/

Listen around 7:43

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #761 on:** January 04, 2013, 07:46:42 PM »

Did anyone watch THIS shit:

http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/11/microsoft-unveiling-the-xbox-360-on-may-12th-on-mtv/

my god, it was so bad

they were all "WORLD'S FIRST PERFECT DARK ZERO DEATH MATCH!" then the death match was just a bunch of reaction shots of the people watching and playing. then the killers played a song. then it was over.

maxy · « **Reply #762 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:15:48 AM »

Ok,time for another rumor.Some Chinese forum has been a home for durango rumors for some time now,this supposedly comes from MS employee

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Eight-core cpu, 8g memory, 8800 graphics, windows 8 kernel specially os, 640g hard drive.

http://club.tgfcer.com/thread-6596213-2-1.html

88888888

Still a rumor but good for pinging usual suspects

Other thing that is floating around is that system has 2-3GB dedicated to OS purposes at all times.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #763 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:20:51 AM »

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8800 graphics

wait, what?

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #764 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:25:03 AM »

You aren't about to make the Nvid/amd mistake are you?

headwalk · « **Reply #765 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:26:56 AM »

xbox 88. launches with a brave new call of duty campaign from the nazi perspective.

maxy · « **Reply #766 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:28:11 AM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 10:20:51 AM

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8800 graphics

wait, what?

Heavily customized chip based on AMD "8800" architecture,not directly linked to anything.Some things high,some things medium--kinda like Xenos

Also chip is supposedly just one rather large APU.

bachikarn · « **Reply #767 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:38:53 AM »

Quote from: Diunx on January 04, 2013, 10:05:49 AM

Will probably enter current gen once the new one kicks off.

Just like nintendo

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #768 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:57:52 AM »

Quote from: maxy on January 08, 2013, 10:28:11 AM

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 10:20:51 AM
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8800 graphics

wait, what?

Heavily customized chip based on AMD "8800" architecture,not directly linked to anything.Some things high,some things medium--kinda like Xenos

Also chip is supposedly just one rather large APU.

oh, I didn't know there was something AMD-related called "8800." I thought this thing had a 8800 series nVidia card in it.

mjemirzian · « **Reply #769 on:** January 08, 2013, 12:38:02 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2013, 10:20:51 AM

oh, I didn't know there was something AMD-related called "8800." I thought this thing had a 8800 series nVidia card in it.

Time to hand in your geek card.

(I didn't know either lol)

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #770 on:** January 08, 2013, 12:44:12 PM »

Me neither

maxy · « **Reply #771 on:** January 08, 2013, 12:46:43 PM »

Technically there is not yet.

8000 series will be re-branded 7000 series(for OEM).

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #772 on:** January 08, 2013, 12:51:32 PM »

Lower power usage and smaller size too, while increasing the performance no?

Now I know I read this roadmap somewhere

maxy · « **Reply #773 on:** January 08, 2013, 12:56:22 PM »

No,that was fake.
As i said this is for OEMs.
Improved 8000 cards should follow later.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/amd_rebrands_radeon_hd_7000_series_gpus_to_hd_8000_for_oems.html

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #774 on:** January 08, 2013, 01:30:55 PM »

Ok, Im guessing the GPU would be closer to the 8870 then the 86xx

My PC vs Console prediction seems so much more likely now

MCD · « **Reply #775 on:** January 08, 2013, 02:14:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/aegies/status/288485398785699840

maxy · « **Reply #776 on:** January 08, 2013, 02:21:43 PM »

Yep,just like launch 360

he also said this,responding to some 2011 article

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Wow, they even misspelled my name. I said what I thought, not what I heard. I talked to a number of developers and publishers in 2012 who insinuated heavily that a new Xbox was originally set for last year, and talked to a developer who was contracted for an exclusive title that opted out when the system was pushed. They've since released that game. All of them were palpably frustrated at the foot dragging. And last year Yves Guillemot went on record saying he thought the longer generation had been harmful.

All of the hardware info I've heard has been over the last 9 months.

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But I've heard Microsoft is pursuing certain kinds of exclusives aggressively.

hmm

So what big 2012 game runs like shit on consoles and it feels like next gen?

Another interesting tidbit,look at the date today

8th January

maxy · « **Reply #777 on:** January 08, 2013, 03:36:23 PM »

MCD · « **Reply #778 on:** January 08, 2013, 03:38:21 PM »

maxy

u Durango horny like me?

maxy · « **Reply #779 on:** January 08, 2013, 03:41:51 PM »

yes,gimme gimme gimme

enough of this ancient tech,I want to see what devs are really working on

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