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So it looks like a lock then if he's shilling the fuck out of it.

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Oh look, it's "I've been coddled in the suburbs my whole life and have literally no nuanced perspective of the world" tech industry guy.  Everyone has internet!  It's always connected!  And the internet never dies because everyone has super special FIOS connections that are kept up by reliable ISPs.   
« Last Edit: April 04, 2013, 09:30:36 PM by Don Flamenco »

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« Reply #2522 on: April 04, 2013, 09:30:40 PM »
This guy seems like a moron.
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Oh look, it's "I've been coddled in the suburbs my whole life and have literally no nuanced perspective of the world" tech industry guy.

Don't worry. MS will eat crow when this hits the fan. Always does. USA - their biggest audience - does not have the online infrastructure to support this. You've made your grave MS. Third console curse continues.
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Oh look, it's "I've been coddled in the suburbs my whole life and have literally no nuanced perspective of the world" tech industry guy.

Don't worry. MS will eat crow when this hits the fan. Always does. USA - their biggest audience - does not have the online infrastructure to support this. You've made your grave MS. Third console curse continues.


sure hope so. 

there's just something about snarky tweets that triggers rage in me :lol 

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Don't these people ever attend communication seminars? Stuff like this is basically the worst PR possible.
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I want every device to be"always on" force me to login as a form of DRM to restrict the way I use the device or to restrict the related resale market. Why wouldn't I want something to be always on, like a shill with a twitter account.

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Don't these people ever attend communication seminars? Stuff like this is basically the worst PR possible.
More people with business-related twitters need to attend a STFU seminar.
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he locked his tweets.  oh fuck, suddenly everything he said was wiped from the collective consciousness b/c he locked it  ::)

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he locked his tweets.  oh fuck, suddenly everything he said was wiped from the collective consciousness b/c he locked it  ::)

Wario screencapped the whole thing.
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lol  Janesville is about as average as of an American city as it gets.   Jesus, next we're gonna be told to work two jobs to get fios.

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« Reply #2532 on: April 04, 2013, 09:54:04 PM »
I can't think of a better way to ease the Internet into your plan of launching an always on no/limited used game system
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Dude, what about EUROPE?

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First Windows 8, next Xbox Loop. MS arrogantly shooting itself in both feet. ::)

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« Reply #2535 on: April 04, 2013, 10:02:13 PM »
Dude, what about EUROPE?

#dealwithit
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wtf is a europe?

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This guy needs AT LEAST a pie in the face at the next public gathering he attends. E3 isn't too far off, you'd better not disappoint me with your revengeance, people of the internets.
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Another excellent point raised by GAF of all people

If this thing requires an online connection to play, does that mean our deployed troops are all buying PS4 next generation?

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Another excellent point raised by GAF of all people

If this thing requires an online connection to play, does that mean our deployed troops are all buying PS4 next generation?


why would anybody join the army?  /orthy

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Another excellent point raised by GAF of all people

If this thing requires an online connection to play, does that mean our deployed troops are all buying PS4 next generation?

Seems so!
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Another excellent point raised by GAF of all people

If this thing requires an online connection to play, does that mean our deployed troops are all buying PS4 next generation?


why would anybody join the army?  /orthy

:lol
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i quite like the idea of innately connected devices, and whenever my internet goes down i stamp around the house like an enraged baboon slamming my fists on anything with a blinking LED until it comes back. playing single player games is the last thing my berserker state has any mind for.

sadly, the whiteboard fresh ends to which microsoft would take advantage of such a device would undoubtedly make for a completely miserable experience and spearheading an always connected console in a nation with as shitty infrastructure as the US is some ostfront shit.

« Last Edit: April 04, 2013, 10:25:59 PM by headwalk »

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« Reply #2543 on: April 04, 2013, 10:24:25 PM »
Boy, I really wanted my winning streak to end on this one.

Seems maxy might owe you an apology  :lol


Hope they show this thing soon since everywhere might explode at this rate

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They really want me to go PS4-exclusive next gen, do they?
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:lol at all the "i'm buyin' a ps4, dur-hur" 

i'm gonna feel like a kid at christmas time reading the meltdowns when sony's drm stuff gets dragged out and it finally dawns on everyone that, no matter which way they turn, next gen the consumer is just the meat in a great big "fuck you" sandwich
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This guy needs AT LEAST a pie in the face at the next public gathering he attends. E3 isn't too far off, you'd better not disappoint me with your revengeance, people of the internets.
People of the internets have enough trouble mumbling at Gamestop employees when buying Uguu Panty Quest XXVII and Mario's ADHD Bouncy Time. Don't expect much IRL retribution. :P

PS4 will probably have discs tied to the console as well, except it might be publisher's choice rather than mandatory.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2013, 11:20:23 PM by mjemirzian »

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Apparently he's deleting tweets now. Good thing they're screencapped.
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Twitter is a godsend for corporate embarrassment and bad PR hijinks.

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Are you comparing a game to a console? This is just one game. If this is true - and all signs are pointing to it being so - affects everyone with an Xbox Hakuna Matata.

The used game thing sucks and I can KIND of deal with that. But I cannot in any way support always online for a game SYSTEM.
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So lending out/borrowing games won't be possible if all this turns out to be true?

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What part of this is driven by dashboard ads? Is that any kind of significant revenue yet? (I suspect it isn't really, which makes their prevalence more infuriating, not less...).
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So lending out/borrowing games won't be possible if all this turns out to be true?

Seems so. Better get that second job Beezy.
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« Reply #2554 on: April 04, 2013, 11:36:46 PM »
So lending out/borrowing games won't be possible if all this turns out to be true?

Seems so. Better get that second job Beezy.

And move to a city with good Internet
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He's in NYC so there's always some skanks net he can steal just in case.
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I didn't sign up for this.

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What's worse, the fanboys feigning outrage, or the fanboys on defense?  :-\

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What part of this is driven by dashboard ads? Is that any kind of significant revenue yet? (I suspect it isn't really, which makes their prevalence more infuriating, not less...).

Actually yes -- dashboard placement is astronomically expensive.

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I gotta admit, watching the console industry destroy itself is really entertaining.

It's probably more entertaining than your average 'AAA' game.

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« Reply #2560 on: April 05, 2013, 12:43:12 AM »
Boy, I really wanted my winning streak to end on this one.

Seems maxy might owe you an apology  :lol


Hope they show this thing soon since everywhere might explode at this rate

It's not over till it's over.

G stuff sounds interesting.
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An always connected console doesn't bother me. My 360 is always connected to the internet and the only time my internet goes down is during hurricanes or something.

The attitude of that guy is very dumb though and MS should tell him to shut up quickly and apologize. Not everybody is in my position and his arrogant attitude makes him sound like a moron.

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The tweets are the top story on Reddit. Maybe he can go make XBLA Avatar clothes with bishoptl when MS axes him. 
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Always connected, never connected to my money

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The tweets are the top story on Reddit. Maybe he can go make XBLA Avatar clothes with bishoptl when MS axes him.
:dead

The first thing I thought was "well, I guess the troops won't be playing Halo 5." This is pretty stupid, especially when you compare XBLA accounts to the total Xbox 360 userbase. Not everyone plays shit online, and many that do play online don't spend a shit ton of time doing it. Some people live in the boonies and get crappy online service, some people travel to another country w/o internet but still bring their console.

Then again, some people exclusively play PC games and don't have to worry about any of this shit. PC Master Race :rejoice
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I'm gonna go hug my shitty PC.
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who is that fool

i mean, all my devices, from PC to Kindle, are 'always on' as well but it's incredibly dumb to extrapolate out from your own personal situation like that

An always connected console doesn't bother me. My 360 is always connected to the internet and the only time my internet goes down is during hurricanes or something.

The attitude of that guy is very dumb though and MS should tell him to shut up quickly and apologize. Not everybody is in my position and his arrogant attitude makes him sound like a moron.

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Someone please kill that twitter guy, thanks

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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;Rango XDK info
« Reply #2568 on: April 05, 2013, 01:52:32 AM »
Boy, I really wanted my winning streak to end on this one.

Seems maxy might owe you an apology  :lol


Hope they show this thing soon since everywhere might explode at this rate

It's not over till it's over.

G stuff sounds interesting.

We'll see.


Someone please kill that twitter guy, thanks

Apparently his posts are now protected but yet GAF found another dev kinda confirming it.

Plus the tweets are making the rounds on the rest of the web  :lol
« Last Edit: April 05, 2013, 01:54:51 AM by Purple Filth »

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You know what you guys are just being a bunch of babies about this whole situation.

It's really not as horrible as you guys are making it out to be. You need to remember this isn't just a next gen gaming console. It's a platform for entertainment and will be used by cable/satellite companies to sell you on their services. Just as XBL brought us out of the online ghetto's this platform will be used as a stepping stone into consumers homes. It's a compelling product from a design stand point. Not cause it's an always on device, but cause it's what most people are missing in their homes right now. Which is a connected space for all of their content be it web/games/tv. It's an ingenious and grand plan if they can pull it off. I just hope its not another webtv disaster personally.

I've had my hands on an iteration of both of the new consoles by sony and M$. My personal feeling is that they are both innovating, but not in the same spaces directly so as to not compete with one another as much next gen. I think that the cost discrepancy between sony and M$ is gonna be very interesting.I don't see people slowing down on buying current gen console's until the prices come down on the next gen. And that's where M$ is gonna kill the market, they are gonna make it so attractive an offer to get you hooked that it's gonna pick up whatever sales there will be for sometime.  M$ plans of using a subsidization model as well as cable/satellite companies to push their console may not seem like a threat, but with more home's not buying a WiiU (they don't even know what one is) they'll be looking for the next best thing and for many of them it will be a new Xbox. Sony has it's hardcore gaming elite's which they will rely on to support them through the growing pains of a very expensive console. But after a drop in price it will pick up eventually just like it did with the PS3.

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You know what you guys are just being a bunch of babies about this whole situation.

It's really not as horrible as you guys are making it out to be. You need to remember this isn't just a next gen gaming console. It's a platform for entertainment and will be used by cable/satellite companies to sell you on their services. Just as XBL brought us out of the online ghetto's this platform will be used as a stepping stone into consumers homes. It's a compelling product from a design stand point. Not cause it's an always on device, but cause it's what most people are missing in their homes right now. Which is a connected space for all of their content be it web/games/tv. It's an ingenious and grand plan if they can pull it off. I just hope its not another webtv disaster personally.

I've had my hands on an iteration of both of the new consoles by sony and M$. My personal feeling is that they are both innovating, but not in the same spaces directly so as to not compete with one another as much next gen. I think that the cost discrepancy between sony and M$ is gonna be very interesting.I don't see people slowing down on buying current gen console's until the prices come down on the next gen. And that's where M$ is gonna kill the market, they are gonna make it so attractive an offer to get you hooked that it's gonna pick up whatever sales there will be for sometime.  M$ plans of using a subsidization model as well as cable/satellite companies to push their console may not seem like a threat, but with more home's not buying a WiiU (they don't even know what one is) they'll be looking for the next best thing and for many of them it will be a new Xbox. Sony has it's hardcore gaming elite's which they will rely on to support them through the growing pains of a very expensive console. But after a drop in price it will pick up eventually just like it did with the PS3.



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http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2200505&postcount=46

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Given that legally I cannot confirm or deny if this information is true, nor can I comment on rumor or speculation, all I can say is be sure to pay your ISP bills.

GAF did some digging

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http://www.xboxlivescore.com/profile/Mr-Lake

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/s...operId,126367/

 This guy.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmohilchock

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http://www.theworkshop.us.com/about.php


hmmmmm


and that might even refer to Sony also since he apparently did help out on Sorcery.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2013, 02:31:41 AM by Purple Filth »

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I'll be making PS4WIIU avatars for my fellow activists


i'm 0/2 on day 1 next gen so far.   I guess I'll be getting PS4 first...vita connectivity and all that. 

oh right weeeewwwww.  0/3 then

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I'm gonna go hug my shitty PC.

You won't be able to escape constant internet requirement no matter were you are,games will require it.
Uguu games will probably be fine though.
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had to join in

« Last Edit: April 05, 2013, 02:31:18 AM by Cormacaroni »
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You know what you guys are just being a bunch of babies about this whole situation.

It's really not as horrible as you guys are making it out to be. You need to remember this isn't just a next gen gaming console. It's a platform for entertainment and will be used by cable/satellite companies to sell you on their services. Just as XBL brought us out of the online ghetto's this platform will be used as a stepping stone into consumers homes. It's a compelling product from a design stand point. Not cause it's an always on device, but cause it's what most people are missing in their homes right now. Which is a connected space for all of their content be it web/games/tv. It's an ingenious and grand plan if they can pull it off. I just hope its not another webtv disaster personally.

I've had my hands on an iteration of both of the new consoles by sony and M$. My personal feeling is that they are both innovating, but not in the same spaces directly so as to not compete with one another as much next gen. I think that the cost discrepancy between sony and M$ is gonna be very interesting.I don't see people slowing down on buying current gen console's until the prices come down on the next gen. And that's where M$ is gonna kill the market, they are gonna make it so attractive an offer to get you hooked that it's gonna pick up whatever sales there will be for sometime.  M$ plans of using a subsidization model as well as cable/satellite companies to push their console may not seem like a threat, but with more home's not buying a WiiU (they don't even know what one is) they'll be looking for the next best thing and for many of them it will be a new Xbox. Sony has it's hardcore gaming elite's which they will rely on to support them through the growing pains of a very expensive console. But after a drop in price it will pick up eventually just like it did with the PS3.

Ahahahaha we are FUCKED
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How long was it since that MS presentation about the wonders of IPTV and how it was the dream of the integrated living room blah blah blah

It would take years and years and YEARS to get the requisite TV contracts in place globally to pull off the kind of shit that always-on would require. I mean, we don't have Netflix in Japan yet, probably the single biggest movie market there is outside of the US
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Wait, that post was real?  :scusthov