Official *Consoles Are For Losers* thread

[Himu]

Haha RSS feeds

YOU MAD

[pilonv1]

The size of the bubble the people who support this live in must be unreal. Of course they all live in well developed cities with good infrastructure.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Twitter's web interface and reliability are crap for me. Whenever I try to follow a combination half the time nothing comes back and I'm not sure if some ajax call failed, twitter's backend somehow didn't track the conversation properly, or there just wasn't an actual conversation. Reddit's interface is perfectly usable and doesn't limit my view to a narrow column. In spite of this I vastly prefer twitter to reddit because its userbase is more broad-based = more chance of interesting conversations vs internet subculture circlejerk

[Rufus]

We shunned RSS feeds before twitter...

[MCD]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52845399&postcount=8013

[MCD]

Who needs a job? I'm a fucking celebrity

 

ONLINE

[Joe Molotov]

The invisible hand of the market will help him find a new job.

[Oblivion]

The invisible hand of the market will help him find a new job.

But does the invisible hand know how to log on to the internet?

[Rahxephon91]

Following a conversation on Twitter is pretty annoying. I try to stay away from it.

[Huff]

[Don Flamenco]

Both Twitter and Reddit are fine.

yeah, you can customize both to filter out the bullshit.  though honestly, if you use twitter as a news feed, you don't have to deal with Reddit ever. 

It's when people attempt conversations and arguments (or express themselves recklessly) on twitter that the problems start.  Yes, lets argue complex issues in 180 character chunks.  One guy I follow, who I only keep because he posts so much speedrunning community news, does like 10 tweets in a row about gamers+gender politics, just to express an idea.  then says stuff like "forums are outdated"    

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Poor guy ruined his career 

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The comments on the Myamoto interview on the CNN site:

William Cole • 7 hours ago −


Great article man, great article. I just know Nintendo will make it through this time of trouble and doubt. This isn't the first time Nintendo as been blatantly doubted by the public.

The NES was sold door to door by the desperate company, the SNES's speed was made fun of, the DS was dubbed stupid after being released, the Wii was said to be Nintendo's last console, the 3DS was foretold to sink Nintendo all together, and here we are 25 years of consoles later at the Wii U and as we all know, history repeats itself. Nintendo is bound to succeed.

   

[mjemirzian]

If MS really is going ahead with always online, they've already forsaken the hardcore market. I don't see the current reaction having much if any effect on their plans.

Of course they could always offer some kind of offline mode... nah. Less choice is good in MS-land.

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Im sure they can make a nice profit in the US with 30/40 million Xboxes sold. But Europe and Asia will be PS4. All the gains they made in Europe will just be gone :/

The game DRM will prob be for a limited period post game launch as not to hurt game sales.

[Purple Filth]

So he lost his job?

ouch 

[mjemirzian]

Everyone bitching is not going to do anything to change it, at least the vast majority won't.

Please, save me from this reductive bullshit. This news story has thoroughly penetrated the tech blogosphere and found its way onto major news media outlets. I found out about this debacle not from NeoGAF, but from a Forbes piece. If anything, the repercussions of implicitly unveiling a negative feature of a console ahead of its office announcement could possibly force a thorough restructuring of marketing strategies.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52868361&postcount=8700

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[Sho Nuff]

I'm really baffled how people like that get hired in the first place

[Vertigo]

How does this keep happening though? How hard is it to just keep your damned mouth shut?

You would think if you wanted to talk shit with someone. You'd DM them. But people want to be retweeted and seen as being witty.

It's crazy that people in these kind of jobs still don't realise that people with sometimes less than savoury intentions watch their twitters for anything that they can post as news or a new thread. It's no surprise who started that thread shinobi602 is like a newsbot

Gaf is out for blood though.They won't stop until this guy gets got. I've never seen such a concerted campaign of targeted assassination, back slapping, smug posts and the frenzy of trying to make gaf the entire centre of the story. Although I do wonder how much enthusiasm there would be for going that extra mile if this was someone at Sony.

Anyway the first reveal for this machine is going to be one for the ages.

[Sho Nuff]

Btw I once got a résumé from someone who offhandedly mentioned a criminal record. I googled his name and found out he had burned down two churches and got caught on his way to a third. Sometimes you just have to hire some wildcards who can think outside the box and solve company problems such as "why is the building not on fire"

[maxy]

negative feature

Im sure they can make a nice profit in the US with 30/40 million Xboxes sold. But Europe and Asia will be PS4. All the gains they made in Europe will just be gone :/

The game DRM will prob be for a limited period post game launch as not to hurt game sales.

If MS manages to get 30/40 millions always online/Gold people they will be swimming in money.

[magus]

[Himu]

Lol maxy

Settling for the bottom line. Do you get an MS paycheck in the mail, guv?

[mjemirzian]

Yes, Microsoft, thank you! Please take away my choice to play my games offline! You've shown me the way!

[Himu]

Sony needs to take advantage of this. I wonder if they'll respond. Hell, they won't. They're Sony.

[Human Snorenado]

Oh maxy.  Come on now.

[maxy]

If
If
If
If


IF

Lager was quoted for a reason.

[maxy]

Excuse me for thinking that people here understand why his number is pure fantasy.

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I like Doritos

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I dont get it, what did i do wrong now

[mjemirzian]

You riled up two sales-age wonks. Good job.

[maxy]

I dont get it, what did i do wrong now

MS currently has about 46 million Live members.That number includes Gold + Silver users and it probably has "connected once in a year" = member or something like that.
IIRC one or two years ago some MS bigwig talked about Live revenue and said that subscriptions are like half of it,total revenue was about $1.2 billion.That is like 10 million users x $60 per year.

Rango time
Always connected,always online = Game designers can count on "always online in every box"
Increasing number of games rumored to require online to function,latest rumor says Assassins Creed 4
In the MS case,online required = pay for Gold
End result is locking services,multiplayer and singleplayer games behind paywall(if AC4 needs online then you won't be playing it without Gold)
Rango = useless without Gold subscription

40 million Gold subscribers =

To reach that number MS has to keep existing 10 and get 30 million more Gold members.Where exactly are they going to find those people?
Miracle land?

[Human Snorenado]

you're treating lager like something other than an idiot troll

[Flannel Boy]

Poor Lager. Poor Adam Orth. The Internet is cruel and unforgiving.

[Steve Contra]

I can't imagine being dumb enough to go on twitter and talk about a product that hasn't been announced yet and then doubling down several times.  I'd say poor guy but Jesus I wouldn't want him working for me.

[ManaByte]

David Jaffe said he's a great guy and one of the best in the industry!

[Don Flamenco]

I'm really baffled how people like that get hired in the first place

"IT'S ALL ABOUT WHO YA KNOW NOT WHAT YA KNOW, BRAH!" ™

[Steve Contra]

What the hell is David Jaffe doing these days?  I've met probably 30 people who have worked with Jaffe and the rate of people who like and respect is hovering about 0%.

[Stoney Mason]

I can't imagine being dumb enough to go on twitter and talk about a product that hasn't been announced yet and then doubling down several times.  I'd say poor guy but Jesus I wouldn't want him working for me.

Yeah it was very dumb and like I said this comes from someone who personally doesn't even have an issue with an always online console. Your job is to do your job. It's not to go on twitter and be an ass. It probably doesn't help that I think Twitter in general is mostly stupid outside of a few specific uses and a sure sign that you value your own opinion too much if you are constantly tweeting about horeshit.

[Don Flamenco]

I remember watching the God of War 1 "making of" thing (either came with the game or on the disc, i forget) and getting the impression that everyone who worked on the game hated him.  Pretty bad for usually PR scrubbed "making of" crap       Sometimes you gotta press X, then make a half circle counterclockwise motion with the left analog stick, then a clockwise motion with the left analog stick to make an omelette.

[Eel O'Brian]

kinda of two minds about it, if the guy really did get fired

while he certainly didn't deserve the overwhelming amount of shit and outrage, he sort of invited it by not paying attention to internet rule #1 - "keep your mouth shut on the internet if you have something to lose"

[Don Flamenco]

probably some NDA business involved as well...there has to be, since MS hasn't said anything about the system yet. 

[DCharlieJP]

An "always online" console could have some pretty nifty features or some interesting game design angles - I men, that's how I would spin it but the Microsoft response smells like a laboratory.

"Product roadmap" , "customer centric" .... Good god, Boardroom Grandad is driving the Durango bus, all aboard for "exciting new entertainment paradigms across diverse and expansive worlds, with rich content and unparalleled gameplay"

Rename to The Dungaree. please uberoldman

[DCharlieJP]

Also - the fact that companies are looking to punish people for not doing as they are told with products they buy with their own money shows how utterly devoid of any good ideas they have.

How about, gasp, having non trivial incentives to buy games at launch? And I'm not talking about holding back content/removing online - these companies have to learn that punishment is not the way forward especially when we are probably going to see games prices take the usual next-gen hike.

There could be some harsh lessons coming

Let me babelfish that into Boardroom Durango Grandad :

"Incentivizing the early adoption and investment of individual software units may provide a positive delta that will likely lead to an evangelical mindset amongst the captive demographic which inturn gives us a zero-cost social media driven programme of new user engagement without an advertisement overhead, this also provides a secondary benefit of a behind-the-curtain/chinese wall mechanism for manipulating end-user purchases with plausible denial of corporate sponsored messaging if key social media linchpins are identified and, likewise, incentivized"

... Available for hire!

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you're treating lager like something other than an idiot troll

Man it must suck knowing im better then you in everything in life  and even on the internet I win since you had to put me on ignore cause you can't deal with it 

Edit: I forgot you don't have a life 

Edit 2: 900 hours of Diablo 3  It's not even a mmo where you can be social, but even that kind of human interaction is too much for you 

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Fat no life fuck

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 :ooh

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[DCharlieJP]

Fat no life fuck

I for some reason just spent time trying to figure out what this was an anagram of thinking it was Joakim level thang.

I came up with Unfit Cafe Folk

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Fetal Fuck Info

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[Himu]

Lager

[Human Snorenado]

I can't read what he wrote (other than that post DC quoted) but I'm sure it's something along the lines of how much better than me ol' wart dick is at everything in life.  So much so that he felt the need to emphasize it for 4 posts in a row, with an edit or two thrown in.

I wonder which of us is REALLY in the other's head.

[Himu]

Like, why's he so mad? When you and I get into it I do it while chuckling behind my phone/computer as we try to 1-up each other.

[Human Snorenado]

Internets.  srs bzness.

Basically, he spent forever trolling D3 claiming it was shit compared to D2, then admitted he never played D2 post LoD (which is what made it so awesome to begin with) and I made the mistake of telling someone who exists only to troll that I spent like 650+ hours plus playing D3.

Also, ignorance for the sake of ignorance annoys me, so here we are- I've put him on ignore, but my throwaway jibes at him apparently require 4 posts in a row to let me know that I'm fat, have no life, he's better than me, etc.  It's all very cute for me, really, but I'm sure it annoys you guys.  For that I apologize.

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*Focusing on the Messenger to Avoid Hearing the Message

"Who is THIS guy to tell ME how to live? Oh, like he's so high and mighty! It's just some dumb writer on the Internet! I'm going to go dig up something on him that reassures me that he's stupid, and that everything he's saying is stupid! This guy is so pretentious, it makes me puke! I watched his old rap video on YouTube and thought his rhymes sucked!"



Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person_p2/#ixzz2PhyL6y7E

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Basically, he spent forever trolling D3 claiming it was shit compared to D2, then admitted he never played D2 post LoD (which is what made it so awesome to begin with) and I made the mistake of telling someone who exists only to troll that I spent like 650+ hours plus playing D3.

You kind of forget to say how you said I didn't have "skill" in D3, since you know I didn't spend 700 hours playing it and thus can't say that D3 sucks (which it kind of does, but you feel the need to defend it cause its your life).

Also I didn't like LOD so 

[mjemirzian]

Dat shitposting. I'm still looking forward to playing D3 on PS3. Seems like a fun game, but not something I would put hundreds of hours into.

[Flannel Boy]

Life of Tuck Fan
a fuckin’ felt of
Knife off a cult
Offf like a cunt

[Snuflupagulus]

The Dungaree


:ehh   Hmm. Yeah, I can get behind that.  XFE has decreed it; so it must be.

[MCD]

[Flannel Boy]

Well, he currently isn't employed and he'll probably just start his own studio. in other words :jerkoffemoticon

[Rufus]

Clifford reinforcing what a class act he is.