Official *Consoles Are For Losers* thread

[archie4208]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

[Great Rumbler]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

 

[D3RANG3D]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

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Pretty much.

Gaben

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

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I'm pretty sure archie just plays DOTA 2 so greenlight doesn't mean much.

[Great Rumbler]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

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Kickstarter 

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[archie4208]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

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You have to admit, if Greenlight is Valve's worst feature they're not doing that bad.

Also, Gaben has admitted it was a massive failure and they're trying to fix it.  He said their end goal was to have a bunch of user generated storefronts that utilize a Steam API but Valve time lol.

[Joe Molotov]

Borys please, im not a fanboy at least.

SONY
SONY
SONY

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SONY

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[MyNameIsMethodis]

its weird that im the least fanboyish fanboy around anymore here

[pilonv1]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

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no platform fanboy is safe anymore

[Raban]

you were always just faking anyway

if only everyone else was

[maxy]

Feels pretty good being a Valve fanboy right now. 

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no platform fanboy is safe anymore

[mjemirzian]

I couldn't give any less of a fuck about next gen.

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Save me PS4 :'(

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[maxy]

I couldn't give any less of a fuck about next gen.

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Save me PS4 :'(

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Shouldn't you be saying "Sony save me"?

PS4 is just a nice piece of hardware,it will do what Sony/developers want.

[Diunx]

Got no internet for reasons I wont disclouse due to poberty shame, and believe it or not xfags I can still play every pirated game I have on my PC! Crazy I know!

[maxy]

no internet, I can still play every pirated game I have on my PC

That is nothing new.

[MCD]

[pilonv1]

Awesome as usual

[Phoenix Dark]

Got no internet for reasons I wont disclouse due to poberty shame, and believe it or not xfags I can still play every pirated game I have on my PC! Crazy I know!

You're so poor you can't afford the v in poverty

[DCharlieJP]

poberty is just the initial few hairy growth and spotty face moments of full blown Poverty

[Diunx]

No forum spellchecker on my phone

[ManaByte]

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4208970/next-xbox-tv-entertainment-plans

Multiple sources familiar with the company's Xbox plans have revealed to The Verge that Microsoft will introduce a feature that lets its next-generation console take over a TV and set-top box in a similar way to Google TV. We understand that the next Xbox will require an online connection to use the entertainment services, allowing them to be always-on for streaming and access to TV signals.

The functionality will work by taking a cable box signal and passing it through to the Xbox via HDMI, allowing Microsoft's console to overlay a UI and features on top of an existing TV channel or set-top box. We're told that this is a key part of the next-generation Xbox and that it will go a step further than Google's TV implementation thanks to Microsoft's partnerships with content providers. Extended support for various cable services will be rolled out gradually, but the basic functionality will be available at launch.

Coupled with this TV functionality, Microsoft's next-generation Kinect sensor will also play a role in the company's TV focus. The Verge has learned that the next Kinect will detect multiple people simultaneously, including the ability to detect eye movement to pause content when a viewer turns their head away from a TV. Microsoft is said to be using these capabilities as part of its UI and features for its TV plans.

[maxy]

http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/

Microsoft is working hard in its new strategy for the next years. The company wants to expand its Xbox brand with two new Xbox. One would be next-gen, the other one would be a new redesign for Xbox 360. Take in mind the Wii Mini, MS would like to offer something similar to Nintendo. This cheap model would be focused as a set top box product, although you will be able to load games too, but the games should be load directly from the HDD. This Xbox wouldn’t have disc drive.

We have received new information about the latest Xbox Roadmap. Our source unveils new details for Durango, Xbox mini and the Microsoft strategy; moreover we don’t forget Kinect 2.0.

Microsoft expands its Xbox brand

Getting to the point there are going to be two console as part of the redesigned “Xbox Line” of products. A repackaged and reoriented Xbox 360 unit and the new “Durango” gaming console, both designed to compete with more than Sony in gaming, but against Apple as well.

When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box. Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).

The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV. The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality. It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.

Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware. Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.

The price goal of the smaller Xbox is $149 or lower and it is likely to not have a disc drive and would require a network connection. Durango will be priced competitively according to PS4′s price.
Kinect 2.0

A different department within Xbox handles Kinect hardware and software. The focus was more on developing and networking both consoles with Kinect more of an after thought at that point, considering dealing with it would be less of an issue even with hardware changes to the main console hardware. Kinect isn’t the primary focus.

The development kits required several pieces of hardware as to combine all “potential” hardware which may or may not be required to work with each other, which also includes the potential for any or all devices to required a network connection, which is where most of the “required” rumors are coming from.

 

My axe is ready

[Powerslave]

'Durango'

the name cracks me up

[Joe Molotov]

The 2013 Microsoft Dodge Durango!

[Himu]

Haha at least it supports BC bitch

[Sho Nuff]

I don't even

[cool breeze]

Does this mean the rumored $100-150 360 will combine with the next Xbox as a form of BC? or are the $100-150 360 and this next Xbox add-on two different things? likening it to the IR dongle from the Xbox and not the HD-DVD drive isn't making this less confusing.

[maxy]

Haha at least it supports BC bitch

That is not BC.

But if rumor is true,Oscar winning streak ended.

 

[Himu]

Huh? Oscar flat out said before next xbox won't have BC.

[maxy]

Huh? Oscar flat out said before next xbox won't have BC.

Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games.

I was thinking about whole rumor not just the BC part.

[Vertigo]

Targeted leak straight to gaf's weak point their irrational hatred of MS.

Sounds nice much better than Sonys plan to stream their back catalogue. And I imagine that MS will be selling a version where the xbox mini comes with the machine

[Huff]

Haha at least it supports BC bitch

well kinda

I guess sony could add a ps3 to every box and claim BC support as well

[maxy]

Does this mean the rumored $100-150 360 will combine with the next Xbox as a form of BC? or are the $100-150 360 and this next Xbox add-on two different things? likening it to the IR dongle from the Xbox and not the HD-DVD drive isn't making this less confusing.

Rango=new console(Master)
Stingray(codename)= $99 360(Slave)--very likely that it has more memory/processing power than normal 360

Connect Stingray to Rango,Rango takes control.Stingray works standalone,no hdd though.

[huckleberry]

Stingray combined with Durango + not always online = me like

[Diunx]

Huh? Oscar flat out said before next xbox won't have BC.

lol the add on will probably cost more than a 360 by that time.

[Himu]

I lost track of all these rumors

[maxy]

Huh? Oscar flat out said before next xbox won't have BC.

lol the add on will probably cost more than a 360 by that time.

add on is the new $99 360

[Huff]

Huh? Oscar flat out said before next xbox won't have BC.

lol the add on will probably cost more than a 360 by that time.

add on is the new $99 360

whats the current price for a barebones 360?

[mjemirzian]

Which publishers will be ballsy enough to implement DRM schemes in their games?

[maxy]

Huh? Oscar flat out said before next xbox won't have BC.

lol the add on will probably cost more than a 360 by that time.

add on is the new $99 360

whats the current price for a barebones 360?

$199

[Diunx]

Why would anyone want 360 BC anyway to play forza? the exclusive suck and the third party games are on PC spend the money on a 2010 videocard and you are set.

[Huff]

$99 isn't a bad price for a backward compatible side thing depending on what else it can do.

Worse things you can't waste your money on.

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OUYA

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[Joe Molotov]

Does this mean the rumored $100-150 360 will combine with the next Xbox as a form of BC? or are the $100-150 360 and this next Xbox add-on two different things? likening it to the IR dongle from the Xbox and not the HD-DVD drive isn't making this less confusing.

Rango=new console(Master)
Stingray(codename)= $99 360(Slave)

[maxy]

Does this mean the rumored $100-150 360 will combine with the next Xbox as a form of BC? or are the $100-150 360 and this next Xbox add-on two different things? likening it to the IR dongle from the Xbox and not the HD-DVD drive isn't making this less confusing.

Rango=new console(Master)
Stingray(codename)= $99 360(Slave)

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#dealwithit

[Don Flamenco]

I'll take one Rango + 360 combo please...hold the rango

[Rahxephon91]

Why would anyone want 360 BC anyway to play forza? the exclusive suck and the third party games are on PC spend the money on a 2010 videocard and you are set.

Because you have tons of games already on the 360? Maybe you don't want to rebut them or just don't like playing on the PC? Or maybe you think the exclusives don't suck? Seems like pretty simple reasons to me.

[Eel O'Brian]

well, of course everyone is going to be able to sell their games*, i never bought the rumors that either of the two would block it out entirely**

i mean, why wouldn't they let you do that, for them it's gonna be almost like getting an extra sale without having to actually produce another physical product

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*useless discs without an unlock code

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**yet

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[Momo]

Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games.

i.e. not always online. what a terrible sentence.

[ManaByte]

Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games.

i.e. not always online. what a terrible sentence.

I trust Kotaku's sources who cited specific examples from the devkit over VGLeaks; which reads like a MS fanboy on GAF spazzing out and trying to damage control.

[maxy]

This is a pretty sneaky way to put in BC.I think most of the people will be fine with this if the price is low enough.

The big question is,can you use "normal" 360?

[Brehvolution]

I wonder if they'll let you use your normal 360 not hooked up to the Durango for BC?

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[Stoney Mason]

The BC stuff is very important to me. As I said before its my most important issue. I'd like to hear more details on that.

[Powerslave]

I wonder if they'll let you use your normal 360 not hooked up to the Durango for BC?

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wow hold up, I'm I realizing this correctly? MS is gonna release a cheap 360 but it has to connect with the Durango to let the Durango play 360 games? 

[Stoney Mason]

I wonder if they'll let you use your normal 360 not hooked up to the Durango for BC?

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wow hold up, I'm I realizing this correctly? MS is gonna release a cheap 360 but it has to connect with the Durango to let the Durango play 360 games? 

Yeah I just read the article. That is pretty dumb if true if that's the only way to do it. I might as well just keep my 360 in the same area which is not what I want to do.

I would pay extra for one model that just had Backward compatibility all in one unit. I don't want two devices.

[Don Flamenco]

Why would anyone want 360 BC anyway to play forza? the exclusive suck and the third party games are on PC spend the money on a 2010 videocard and you are set.

i would want one for the better fighting game ports, but that doesn't require a rango. 

[mjemirzian]

I'm still fairly certain EA and Activision will put some form of DRM in their console games. An activation check at least.

[maxy]

I wonder if they'll let you use your normal 360 not hooked up to the Durango for BC?

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wow hold up, I'm I realizing this correctly? MS is gonna release a cheap 360 but it has to connect with the Durango to let it play 360 games? 

Cheap,no disc drive,possibly even without hdd(just some flash like WiiU)...very small,can be controlled by Rango.Plays every digital 360 game standalone or every 360 game combined with Rango.

[Joe Molotov]

I wonder if they'll let you use your normal 360 not hooked up to the Durango for BC?

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I assume that once you've transferred your XBL account from 360 to Durango, your 360 becomes a useless brick. Seems reasonable.

[Powerslave]

I wonder if they'll let you use your normal 360 not hooked up to the Durango for BC?

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wow hold up, I'm I realizing this correctly? MS is gonna release a cheap 360 but it has to connect with the Durango to let it play 360 games? 

Cheap,no disc drive,possibly even without hdd(just some flash like WiiU)...very small,can be controlled by Rango.Plays every digital 360 game standalone or every 360 game combined with Rango.

Not sure if you think this is positive or not

[cool breeze]

Yeah I just read the article. That is pretty dumb if true if that's the only way to do it. I might as well just keep my 360 in the same area which is not what I want to do.

I would pay extra for one model that just had Backward compatibility all in one unit. I don't want two devices.

The benefit could/seems to be one hdmi cable, one power brick, one controller, etc. which isn't that bad of a compromise.

BC on next gen consoles sounds like a mess.  Even the Wii U that's the most straight forward requires additional hardware.