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« Reply #120 on: February 03, 2012, 01:44:29 AM »
Sounds like a dream machine :hyper
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« Reply #121 on: February 03, 2012, 04:27:24 AM »
 :lol uDraw must have been one of the biggest bombs this gen.
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« Reply #122 on: February 03, 2012, 04:31:49 AM »
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THQ has said it has no further plans for uDraw after it revealed that the failed expansion of its tablet peripheral to PS3 and Xbox 360 has cost it $80 million in lost revenue.

Speaking during an investor call after the publication of its dismal third-quarter results, the publisher said it had shipped a million uDraw tablets to retailers, leaving 1.4 million units of manufactured stock left unsold.

1.4million? :lol
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« Reply #123 on: February 03, 2012, 04:41:52 AM »
if THQ has 1.4 million Udraw's warehoused, how many are on store shelves still unsold?
I mean, dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn that is bad, bad, bad.

I really want THq to stick around, they've got too many good developers on their hook and theirs would be a crushing loss to the industry.

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« Reply #124 on: February 03, 2012, 08:15:19 AM »
I havent even heard of uDraw!
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« Reply #125 on: February 03, 2012, 10:38:44 AM »
I havent even heard of uDraw!

I've noticed it around in a few places, but never looked closely enough to actually see what it was.
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« Reply #126 on: February 03, 2012, 11:05:19 AM »
It's cheap everywhere right now. Funny that they extrapolated a market on PS3 and 360 from its performance on Wii. Way to go, Marketing!

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« Reply #127 on: February 03, 2012, 11:20:48 AM »
Yeah, it blows my mind that they actually thought they could repeat the success of uDraw Wii on the Xbox360/PS3.
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« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2012, 01:06:30 PM »
So when are uDraws going to show up at Big Lots for $25?
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« Reply #129 on: February 03, 2012, 03:54:34 PM »
So when are uDraws going to show up at Big Lots for $25?

The funny thing is now I want one at a stupid low price just because.  :P


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« Reply #130 on: February 03, 2012, 04:38:29 PM »
There's a uDraw version of Pictionary. That and the tablet thing in a bundle might be worth 20 bones for get-togethers.
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« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2012, 01:30:57 PM »
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120208058/
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3DS   75,018
PS3   23,293
Vita   17,141
PSP   15,847
Wii   8,814
Xbox 360   1,382
DSi LL   1,090
DSi   669
PS2   481

It looks like Vita will stabilize somewhere around 15k
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« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2012, 01:56:15 PM »
The hardware sales wouldn't be so worrying for the Vita if the software was actually selling, but I think total software sales might actually be LOWER than the hardware sales.
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« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2012, 02:00:47 PM »
Has the "Vita has no games" meme started yet?
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« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2012, 02:14:19 PM »
No

I think that majority agrees that Vita "has games",just not the ones that people really really want to play.
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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2012, 02:16:56 PM »
The hardware sales wouldn't be so worrying for the Vita if the software was actually selling, but I think total software sales might actually be LOWER than the hardware sales.

It's around 1:1 in Japan not counting digital sales.

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« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2012, 02:19:34 PM »
Has the "Vita has no games" meme started yet?

I think it's more like "No one cares about Vita's games."
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« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2012, 04:56:35 PM »
My first example of pulling the "hardcore" card was as a kid when graphic adventures came around and displaced text adventures. I felt they were dumbing down the genre.  :)

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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2012, 05:28:53 PM »
Has the "Vita has no games" meme started yet?

should be arriving with the "Wait till Monster Hunter" meme
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« Reply #139 on: February 15, 2012, 10:18:47 AM »
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3DS 67,558
PS3 22,002
PSP 15,860
Vita 13,939
Wii 8,206
PS2 1,239
Xbox 360 1,139
DSi LL 957
DSi 651

Suikoden - 62k
Gravity Daze 43k


http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120215060/

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« Reply #140 on: February 15, 2012, 10:26:29 AM »
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« Reply #141 on: February 15, 2012, 10:31:51 AM »
3DS had similiar sales so it's no big thang.
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« Reply #142 on: February 15, 2012, 10:52:10 AM »
3DS:

374,000
209,000
96,000
61,000
50,000
42,000
32,000
28,000
23,000
28,000
29,000
18,000
17,000
24,000
27,000
24,000
40,000
27,000
30,000
22,000
46,000
31,000
16,000
4,000 [price cut]
197,000 [price cut]
106,000
60,000
54,000

Vita:

324,000
72,000
42,000
42,000
18,000
15,000
19,000
14,000

Please take note of key differences.
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« Reply #143 on: February 15, 2012, 10:55:21 AM »
Methodis prefer his own reality so those numbers aren't needed.


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« Reply #144 on: February 15, 2012, 10:59:12 AM »
w/e who cares waht you 360 fanboys think.
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« Reply #145 on: February 15, 2012, 11:06:41 AM »
you do :D
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« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2012, 01:06:56 PM »
It used to be the running joke, but now I'm really hesitant about picking up a Vita in fear of a price drop. The future is bleak, at least with what we know so far.
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« Reply #147 on: February 15, 2012, 01:17:42 PM »
price drop is doubtful, permanent bundles (mem card, game) for the same price is likely
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« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2012, 01:20:11 PM »
That will do as well. Although I might pass by Target next week to take advantage of the B2G1 special. The again, what if game prices bombs in the next month or two?
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« Reply #149 on: February 15, 2012, 01:20:30 PM »
Japan is a bad indication of how things are in america; The 360 constantly tanked over there yet it never signaled a price drop here.
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« Reply #150 on: February 15, 2012, 08:07:29 PM »
I'd buy a vita if it came with a minimum 16gb card for $250.

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« Reply #151 on: February 17, 2012, 12:25:55 PM »
Some interesting info from UK

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/revealed-the-real-size-of-the-uk-games-market/091345
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The High Street may be having a tough time, but the UK games market is still incredibly healthy, MCV research shows today.

For the first time, we can reveal the true value of the UK games market, showing that consumers spent over £3bn on their hobby in 2011.

It's proof that mobile, downloads and licensed toys are picking up the slack as other parts of the market soften.

This impressive figure – £3.226bn to be precise -  includes data on online, mobile, and merchandising.

And it flies in the face of conventional wisdom which says market shrinkage hit during the last 12 months.

In fact, when you combine data from some of the most respected research agencies, as we have below, you see game brands are more powerful than ever, even if the core High Street is facing some of its most challenging trading weeks.

Add online revenues to boxed market data and it’s clear digital made up 30 per cent of a £2bn UK software market last year.
2011 was also a watershed year for spin-off toys, DVDs and soundtracks, making £70m in revenue last year.


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BRITAIN'S £3.266 BILLION GAMES BONANZA

£520m SPENT ON ONLINE GAMES
Xbox Live subscriptions, casual games, social gaming, download to own and streaming/on-demand games
Source: Nick Parker/IHS Screen Digest

£158m SPENT ON MOBILE GAMING
Download-to-own apps and in-game purchases
Source: Juniper Research

£60m SPENT ON TOYS & MERCHANDISE
Spin-off toys and products based on video game properties such as Sonic, Moshi Monsters and Mario
Source: NPD Group

£7.5m SPENT ON GAMES MUSIC & FILMS
Soundtracks and movie/anime spin-offs
Source: Official Charts Company and label estimates

£2.2m SPENT ON EVENT TICKETS
Price paid by attendees to get into consumer shows like Eurogamer Expo, GAMEfest, MCM Expo
Source: Industry estimates

£452m SPENT ON CONSOLE HARDWARE
Pure games machines such as 360, PS3, Wii, 3DS/DS, PSP, etc.
Source: GfK Chart-Track annual data

£646m SPENT ON PERIPHERALS & ACCESSORIES
Peripherals plus Xbox Live and PlayStation Network pre-paid cards
Source: GfK Chart-Track annual data

£1.42bn SPENT ON BOXED SOFTWARE
PC and console games sold on the High Street, at supermarkets or via online retailers
Source: GfK Chart-Track annual data

...THAT'S A MARKET WORTH AT LEAST £3.266 BILLION.
(And 30% bigger than the allegedly 'declining' UK market figures published in January)

Nature always finds a way...
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« Reply #152 on: February 21, 2012, 09:59:21 AM »
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-21-the-witcher-2-sold-1-1-million-copies-in-2011#comments
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Fantastic PC (and soon Xbox 360) RPG, The Witcher 2, sold 1,110,055 copies last year, developer CD Projekt Red has revealed.


Of those copies, 270,000 were sold via digital distribution platforms: 40,000 on GOG.com, which leaves the lion's share of the remainder presumably to Steam (numbers not disclosed).
But most "remarkable" to CDPR managing director Adam Badowski, was that 401,543 copies of The Witcher 1 were sold last year.

bu bu bu Steam


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« Reply #153 on: February 21, 2012, 10:08:20 AM »
Very nice.
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« Reply #154 on: February 21, 2012, 01:47:43 PM »
How much of sales does Steam get for titles sold? I'm assuming it works somewhat like iTunes right
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« Reply #155 on: February 21, 2012, 01:54:23 PM »
Rumored to be 30%, but there is no concrete evidence.

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« Reply #156 on: February 22, 2012, 11:24:53 AM »
Vita - 12,300



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3DS - 96,000

LovePlus 3DS - 109,000
ThreatRhythm - 67,000
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« Reply #157 on: February 27, 2012, 04:40:38 AM »
Media Create Sales Stats: Vita 3G vs Wi-Fi, 3DS vs GBA vs DS
http://andriasang.com/con03o/media_create_stats/

UK data has started trickling

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PlayStation Vita launch title Uncharted: Golden Abyss has claimed top spot in the new UK all-format charts.

Vita exclusive FIFA Football was second.

The two games accounted for 50 per cent of the total Vita software sold last week. There were 23 launch titles in total.

Other Vita games managing a place in the top 40 included WipEout 2048 (11th place), Ridge Racer (28th) and Everybody's Golf (32nd). And multi-platform game Rayman Origins shot up from 36th to 5th after the release of its Vita version.

Full chart track PR
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Almost a year after Nintendo’s 3DS launch (week 12, 2011) and we welcome Sony’s Vita hand-held, available in Wi-Fi and 3G versions (79% of Vita sales in week 1 were for the Wi-Fi version).

There are 23 Vita launch titles at retail (compared to 16 for 3DS week 1), but 2 key Vita titles account for 50% of sales units and lie at No1 & No2 on the All Formats Chart. Sony’s Vita ‘Uncharted: Golden Abyss’ is the new No1 (31% of week 1 Vita sales) and EA’s Vita ‘FIFA Football’ is the new No2 (18% of Vita sales).

In comparison, the week 1 No1 on 3DS ‘Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition’ accounted for 15% of 3DS week 1 software sales. Last week’s No1, THQ’s ‘UFC Undisputed 3’ drops to No3 (-53%) and Ubisoft’s ‘Rayman Origins’ climbs 31 places to No5 (+197%), powered by a new Vita version, No4 on the Vita Top 20.

The biggest non-Vita launch is EA’s re-boot of UK developer Bullfrog’s ‘Syndicate’ which debuted back in week 26, 1993 for Amiga and PC. The new ‘Syndicate’ is Swedish (developed by StarBreeze) and debuts here at No7 for 360/PS3/PC.

The next new entry at No11 is Sony’s Vita ‘Wipeout 2048’, actually No3 on the Vita Top 20. Following on from that we have Nintendo’s Wii ‘The Last Story’ at No15, developed by Mistwalker, the studio of Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of the Final Fantasy series of videogames.

New at No17 is Bethesda’s ‘Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition’ which contains all mission expansion add-on packs.
UFC3 last week sales were about 33k,according to gaf pal sales genius

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« Reply #158 on: February 27, 2012, 12:01:49 PM »
Vita has a better attache rate than 3DS out the gate and that is much more important to developers. :bow Sony
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« Reply #159 on: February 27, 2012, 12:06:03 PM »
Uh...no. I'm pretty sure developers don't much care about attach rates.
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« Reply #160 on: February 27, 2012, 12:09:20 PM »
uhhhh yes the ydo. stop backpeddling NINTARD
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« Reply #161 on: February 27, 2012, 12:32:09 PM »
Back-pedaling...?
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« Reply #162 on: February 27, 2012, 01:31:47 PM »
(31% of week 1 Vita sales) and EA’s Vita ‘FIFA Football’ is the new No2 (18% of Vita sales).

In comparison, the week 1 No1 on 3DS ‘Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition’ accounted for 15% of 3DS week 1 software sales. Last week’s No1, THQ’s ‘UFC Undisputed 3’ drops to No3 (-53%) and Ubisoft’s ‘Rayman Origins’ climbs 31 places to No5 (+197%), powered by a new Vita version, No4 on the Vita Top 20.

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« Reply #163 on: February 27, 2012, 01:45:33 PM »
:rofl
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« Reply #164 on: February 27, 2012, 01:46:38 PM »
31 + 18 are bigger than 15  ???
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« Reply #165 on: February 27, 2012, 01:47:40 PM »
Also higher than your IQ.
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« Reply #166 on: February 27, 2012, 01:50:14 PM »
o wow thats such a sick burn  where did you come up with taht in seapple?
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« Reply #167 on: February 27, 2012, 01:51:08 PM »
attach rates can only be derived from the total software market (unit) v hardware sales (unit) sales.

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« Reply #168 on: February 27, 2012, 01:53:13 PM »
no
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« Reply #169 on: February 27, 2012, 01:55:26 PM »
31 + 18 are bigger than 15  ???

Methodis, dude, that 31 and 18 means those games sold 31% and 18% of total Vita SOFTWARE sales for the week.
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« Reply #170 on: February 27, 2012, 02:01:16 PM »
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« Reply #171 on: February 27, 2012, 02:12:54 PM »
System A sell 1,000 units.
System A sells 1 game
Game X accounts for 100% of the games sold

What is the attach rate?
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« Reply #172 on: February 27, 2012, 02:25:16 PM »
1,000 how do u not know this lawyer boy  ???
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« Reply #173 on: February 27, 2012, 02:26:43 PM »
System A sell 1,000 units.
System A sells 1 game
Game X accounts for 100% of the games sold

What is the attach rate?

Heres the algebre:

System = A
you didn't assign a variable to the 1 game so we'll call it Y
game x sold 100% of the games sold
so since u didn't define X as Y, youre saying that Y sold 1 game. X could be ap reorder that was sold with every console therefore
X= A
X= 1,000
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« Reply #174 on: February 27, 2012, 06:26:45 PM »
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« Reply #175 on: February 27, 2012, 07:06:23 PM »
how surprsing a nintenbot doenst know math get outta here
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« Reply #176 on: February 27, 2012, 07:13:02 PM »
::) How original.

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« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2012, 03:45:30 AM »
you're both lost causes. don't ever ask me for a job
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« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2012, 04:40:05 AM »
Actually we survived 2G2D pretty good so there are plenty of jobs.
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« Reply #179 on: February 28, 2012, 04:56:23 AM »
Question : Has anyone been able to graph the rise of iOS/Android handhelds vs. the decline(is there even a decline) of handheld video game hardware? Is there even a correlation to start a conversation with?