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Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« on: July 13, 2012, 10:10:52 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482456

Obviously a very impressive cinematic. Dialogue isn't very good but compared to most Hollywood films these days, it's not all that bad. Delivery is very convincing.

Looks quite nice, also.

But.

What, exactly, does this have to do with gaming?

I mean... why don't these Naughty Dog people do a fucking movie if they so desperately want to tell a story about survival or what the fuck have you.

If people want to pay $59.99 for some shitty movie/QTE collection, then by all means, let 'em.

I just wanna know... why the fuck is this called a game? I mean, what the fuck? I'm looking at all these NeoGAFer comments and I feel alone in thinking it's fucking bullshit to call this a game.

And it's not just this game, but an overall trend in the industry to move towards this kind of bullshit 'experience'. Tomb Raider is an example.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 10:11:40 PM »
No, game looks like pap
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 10:45:01 PM »
the ps3 demoscene prevails
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 10:54:35 PM »
Don't care one bit.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 11:08:54 PM »
I played Heavy Rain, I guess I'll play this too. Not for $60 though, lol.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 11:14:00 PM »
Wait, this is that game from Indigo Prophecy/Heavy Rain devs? LOL. Thought this was the new Naughty Dog game. Getting ps3 exclusives mixed up lol.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 11:15:47 PM »
Wait, this is that game from Indigo Prophecy/Heavy Rain devs? LOL. Thought this was the new Naughty Dog game. Getting ps3 exclusives mixed up lol.

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No, this is Naughty Dawg, just saying it looks like the same "omg I haz a sad" kind of thing.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 11:19:54 PM »
the voice actor for the Bill dude sounds familiar.


re: the game. Naughty Dog is really good at characters for the most part, so the *hope* that this is less action schlock like Uncharted and puts more focus on the characters means this has a lot of potential. this will probably be the last console game I end up playing.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 11:29:05 PM »
don't care about the game or this thread
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 11:54:21 PM »
I wanna play it /shrug

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 12:39:56 AM »
"I can tell I'm going to enjoy Ellie."  "Woah, I like these character!" -NeoGAF

That about sums it up.  It seems like the typical bad movie cliches (precocious young girl, crusty old dude who will probably have a hidden sweet, sensitive side) but because the bar for good game writing is so low, this will be considered a classic.  Like all things, if the gameplay is good and fun, then I'm down.  Probably not $60 down but if I find it on the cheap a year after its release, then sure.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2012, 01:42:29 AM »
Glad to know the pedo audience is well cared for on the PS3!
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2012, 01:44:09 AM »
Glad to know the pedo audience is well cared for on the PS3!

In unrelated news, Hyperdimension Neptunia is getting a second sequel.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2012, 02:18:50 AM »
Glad to know the pedo audience is well cared for on the PS3!

it is a japanese console. and you know nintendo isn't going to help them out

the 720 should have straight hardcore pedo hentai games to try and win over the crowd where their mediocre jrpgs failed
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2012, 02:23:24 AM »
I care a lot about this game and ya'll are crazy for agreeing with Ruzbeh, of all people.

Stupid xbots hating on quality games and experiences, who woulda thunk it?
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2012, 02:39:25 AM »
A gruff survivor leads a spunky girl through a postholocaust, overgrown cityscape?

Those among you who wished aloud for an Enslaved sequel have got one. And no Serkis, so it's win-win.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2012, 03:26:16 AM »
with all the focus on the narrative, i'm surprised by the off-putting animations. the disconnect between their animations and their dialogue is so weird to me.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2012, 03:31:12 AM »
My now standard response: Why is this a game?

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2012, 03:31:49 AM »
I care a lot about this game and ya'll are crazy for agreeing with Ruzbeh, of all people.

Stupid xbots hating on quality games and experiences, who woulda thunk it?

I don't hate it, I'm just not super excited about it. I'll definitely pick it up once it hits the cheap.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2012, 04:15:36 AM »
with all the focus on the narrative, i'm surprised by the off-putting animations. the disconnect between their animations and their dialogue is so weird to me.

I think the game looks phenomenal in stills, but I think facial animations are a step back from the Uncharted series. I'm not sure if they thought it would aid the sense of realism, but I get what you mean.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2012, 04:28:48 AM »
It's Uncharted with a loli sidekick.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2012, 05:10:02 AM »
The gameplay appears to be incredibly old. Hopefully this kind of crap dies off due to high costs soon.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2012, 05:14:35 AM »
I care a lot about this game and ya'll are crazy for agreeing with Ruzbeh, of all people.

Stupid xbots hating on quality games and experiences, who woulda thunk it?

stfu sfag

I guess this game targets Heavy Rain x Uncharted audience,nothing wrong with that.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2012, 05:39:47 AM »
 :-\
It's Uncharted with a loli sidekick.

That resolves the single shortcoming of the Uncharted series. Shaping up to be the game of the forever!
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2012, 07:40:52 AM »
I don't care for any of Naughty Dog's interactive movies. Uncharted 2 was really fun but I have no desire to ever play that game, or any related games ever again.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2012, 09:43:24 AM »
Impressions ive heard from E3 seemed cool- and they havent released enough stinkers for me to have completely forgotten how good Uncharted 2 was. I'll give it a go.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2012, 09:54:19 AM »
one day i hope to game like you guys do

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2012, 10:21:42 AM »
I don't care for any of Naughty Dog's interactive movies. Uncharted 2 was really fun but I have no desire to ever play that game, or any related games ever again.

I'm the same way... enjoyed Uncha 2 when it came out much more than I was expecting, but the linear on-rails gameplay doesn't really do it much anymore. I like the concept behind "The Last of Us", if it's more survival-oriented and gameplay intensive instead of being linear scripted gameplay, I'd definitely be down.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2012, 10:53:55 AM »
Impressions ive heard from E3 seemed cool- and they havent released enough stinkers for me to have completely forgotten how good Uncharted 2 was. I'll give it a go.

yeah, that and what people say about the game sounds better than what's been shown.  It's explained like it's about survival and resource management.   You can sneak past enemy encounters and risk give up valuable supplies in the process.  The shooting gameplay from E3 is fine too but I'd like to see how the stealth and survival is played up. 

I guess that's how games are marketed these days.  Lots of cutscenes and shooting.  Eidos is just now showing that Hitman Absolution plays like a Hitman game.

And for as creepy as those Juno comments are and will be, I think it's nice that Naughty Dog isn't holding back...yet.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2012, 12:12:56 PM »
seems like it could be a perfectly perfunctory little romp for the lads who enjoy day-dreaming about the little sister they never had.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2012, 12:55:17 PM »
Game looks fine to me. But then cutscenes don't bother me.

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Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2012, 01:56:21 PM »
ya'll are crazy for agreeing with Ruzbeh, of all people.

Whoa, what does that mean?

I am a reasonable fucking guy. My gaming tastes are very agreeable.

I remember you admitting to watching shitty animes then proceeding to shit on the wire in the same post. You should be grateful I didn't ban you then and there.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2012, 02:33:16 PM »
I'm talking about you having a shitty taste. Stop having a shitty taste, please.
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« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2012, 02:36:16 PM »
I think I've confused you with someone else :-[

You're still kinda shitty though.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2012, 02:43:07 PM »
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2012, 02:50:54 PM »
No no, you're right about Ruzbeh.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2012, 02:59:32 PM »
Wait, this is that game from Indigo Prophecy/Heavy Rain devs? LOL. Thought this was the new Naughty Dog game. Getting ps3 exclusives mixed up lol.

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I get confused too.  It's cuz Juno is in both of them, although only officially in one. 

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2012, 03:09:28 PM »
"I can tell I'm going to enjoy Ellie."  "Woah, I like these character!" -NeoGAF

That about sums it up.  It seems like the typical bad movie cliches (precocious young girl, crusty old dude who will probably have a hidden sweet, sensitive side) but because the bar for good game writing is so low, this will be considered a classic.  Like all things, if the gameplay is good and fun, then I'm down.  Probably not $60 down but if I find it on the cheap a year after its release, then sure.

Chalk it up as another tired Hollywood trope that becomes innovative or empowering when introduced into a video game. Art!
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2012, 03:31:51 PM »
I still don't get why the Uncharted series is praised for its writing.  The Uncharted stories make shitty matinee movies look like Oscar films. 

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2012, 03:53:19 PM »
There's uber nerds out there who want gaming 'elevated' through quality narrative and cinematic devices, with some shooting in between.  i.e. the videogame press
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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2012, 05:02:32 PM »
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2012, 05:09:19 PM »
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2012, 05:28:52 PM »
I think it will be fine when it hits around 12 pounds on zavvi

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2012, 05:48:36 PM »
meh.

All this meta discussion about games is annoying. Uncharted 2 was a kick ass game. (Uncharted 3 was far less so) This looks like its going to be a good game also. I like to separate talking about a game as a game and whatever the slobbering fanboys or overly art as game types think about it. You can like a thing without thinking its the greatest game of all time and getting all slobbery over.

I think its just as lame to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

That being said opinions are opinions. I think Half Life 2 (not the episodes which are better) is a very over-rated game. We all have games where we don't necessarily agree with the critical reception of it.

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« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2012, 06:25:51 PM »
i.e.

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nailed it  :cookiem
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2012, 06:48:49 AM »
As much as I hate games that use cinematics and contrived narratives as a crutch to hide the lazy game design involved in their products, I think there's room for games that successfully blends both and strike that perfect balance. I say blend, because the more smelted they are together, seamlessly, the more each part is justified. Assuming both are of high quality and flow smoothly from one part to the other. I will agree however that the more technology advances, the more the priorities are jumbled for game producers.

This is why I miss the past two generations, because I feel the limited technology *forced* everyone to find a perfect balance. It's really ironic that we celebrate games that don't fall into that pit today, when they should be the rule, not the exception.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2012, 06:51:24 AM »
Don't care one bit.

+1. Just doesn't interest me.
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« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2012, 06:58:20 AM »
Sometimes I struggle figuring out which camp I'm leaning more towards to these days, but judging by inexplicably bothered I am by the replies in this thread, especially by our open, closeted, and self-loathing ninthings I think there's a languishing snaggot heart still beating inside of me.

Therefore I say those naysayers, fuck ya'll.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2012, 10:28:16 AM »
WHATEVER JUST DoNT PLAY IT IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY IT ARHGHGHGHGHGH *PULLS OUT HAIR*
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Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2012, 10:35:50 AM »
WHATEVER JUST DoNT PLAY IT IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY IT ARHGHGHGHGHGH *PULLS OUT HAIR*

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2012, 10:37:28 AM »
More game PLAYING, less game NEOGAFIN.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2012, 11:03:57 AM »
More game PLAYING, less game NEOGAFIN.

More game playing, huh? That's getting more and more difficult when the game doesn't let you play the game, and instead plays cut scenes...

A.) You haven't even played the game to be fair. Neither has anyone else so there is that.
B.) Games full of cutscenes aren't new. Metal Gear has been doing it since the playstation 1 days.
C.) Don't buy games you don't like. Buy games you do like. Problem solved.

Not trying to be a dick or anything but some people like motivation in a game to be doing the things they are doing. That varies with me personally from genre to genre but that's the way the world is. It's not going back to SNES games. And the games that you want do exist. They are just more likely to be indie games, PSN/XBLA games, or ios games at this point.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2012, 11:06:14 AM »
i just want to truly game, you feel me?

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2012, 11:54:41 AM »
In the meantime why not play a game you actually like and not give a fuck about us
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2012, 11:54:55 AM »
actually i'll just continue enjoying quality games, in whatever form they may be

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2012, 11:55:48 AM »
If Hitler was still alive he would love cutscenes.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2012, 12:32:13 PM »
B.) Games full of cutscenes aren't new. Metal Gear has been doing it since the playstation 1 days.

What's new is the trend of everything to move towards Metal Gear levels of cut scenes.

And the games that you want do exist. They are just more likely to be indie games, PSN/XBLA games, or ios games at this point.
And the games that you want do exist. They are just more likely to be [...] ios games.
ios games.
Wow.

Wow.

I'm done with this thread.

Enjoy your shitty not-quite-a-game-but-not-quite-a-movie-either game, assholes.

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2012, 12:35:17 PM »
If Hitler was still alive he would love cutscenes.

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Because he's cutting Jews?

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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2012, 12:47:31 PM »
B.) Games full of cutscenes aren't new. Metal Gear has been doing it since the playstation 1 days.

What's new is the trend of everything to move towards Metal Gear levels of cut scenes.

And the games that you want do exist. They are just more likely to be indie games, PSN/XBLA games, or ios games at this point.
And the games that you want do exist. They are just more likely to be [...] ios games.
ios games.
Wow.

Wow.

I'm done with this thread.

Enjoy your shitty not-quite-a-game-but-not-quite-a-movie-either game, assholes.

And now I see that you are indeed an asshole so I don't feel bad in saying. go suck it bitch.
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Re: Am I insane for thinking The Last of Us is an abomination?
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2012, 01:11:32 PM »
this is now a joke thread
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