Author Topic: The Dark Knight Rises (Read 52191 times)

ManaByte · « **Reply #120 on:** July 19, 2012, 07:48:36 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 19, 2012, 07:34:16 PM

Rocket Racoon is gonna set comic book crazy back 15 years. ;_;

(I just read a blog that pointed out Rocket Raccoon is going to hit the big screen before Wonder Woman )

There was a thing on the LA Times site that said due to Nolan not wanting to have anything to do with DC comics movies after Superman, it'll be at least three years until there's another DC movie. They said Warner was banking on Nolan to produce their DC movies and had no backup plan.

They pointed out the four Marvel movies in the next two years. And now Marvel is saying Ant Man may make 2014 too.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #121 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:05:34 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on July 19, 2012, 07:13:33 PM

When did the Killing Joke movie come out?

Of that list, the only one Nolan's movies is remotely like is Year One with Begins. There's a bit of Long Halloween in TDK though.

Herp? I'm not talking about actual plot doofus. Just the overall atmosphere, reckless sense of abandon, and the depraved and crazy shit Batman and Bruce Wayne both would have to go against.

Also I'm not shit talking the Avengers. That's a fun as fuck movie in a completely different way than Nolan's Batman movies are. I'm just saying, for the character, Nolan's Batman makes much more sense to me than a Tim Burton or even Marvel-like approach to Batman.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #122 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:21:47 PM »

To me, Superman is "strong," Batman is "psychological." The fear and the grimdark are part of that, but so are the psychedelics and the detective work. I don't think Batman's just about being "frightened" or "terrorized" - I think it's about "being completely fucked out of your mind, with no clue how we got here or how we're getting out." I don't think those elements need to be brought to the forefront, but I think ignoring them loses a lot of what's interesting about a guy who fights an evil clown. GIANT PENNY RULEZ #1

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #123 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:22:28 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on July 19, 2012, 08:00:15 PM

Guardians of the Galaxy is going to bomb so hard.

The Avengers wasn't that realistic but it was grounded enough that people could suspend disbelief plus those characters were relatively well-known and had enjoyable movies setting things up. Ain't nobody (general public) going to be down for no fuckin' smart ass raccoon that shoots people on a team with tree man, green chick with sword, green kratos, and Star Lord.

and Treebeard

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #124 on:** July 19, 2012, 08:22:47 PM »

I have to wait until sometime next week to watch TDKR.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #125 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:09:30 PM »

Guardians Of The Galaxy...lol. If it was a CGI film I could see it doing very well, but a live action comic film full of heroes no one knows about - that is only being made to introduce people to characters that will be in The Avengers 2?

ManaByte · « **Reply #126 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:29:44 PM »

And Rocket Raccoon vs Thanos will be the Hulk vs Loki moment of summer 2014.

Tasty · « **Reply #127 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:45:37 PM »

I'm waiting on Squirrel Girl Begins myself.

Huff · « **Reply #128 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:56:39 PM »

are the people that dislike/not really enjoy the recent batman films big comic fans?

EvilBoris · « **Reply #129 on:** July 19, 2012, 10:59:28 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 19, 2012, 10:09:30 PM

Guardians Of The Galaxy...lol. If it was a CGI film I could see it doing very well, but a live action comic film full of heroes no one knows about - that is only being made to introduce people to characters that will be in The Avengers 2?

I genuinely believed whenever this title was brought up people were referring to, mockingly or not, a sequel to Snyder's CGI Owl battle movie. And now I'm sad that it does not. Space Owls* > more superhero studio tentpole bullshit

*not directed by Snyder

Mandark · « **Reply #130 on:** July 19, 2012, 11:04:05 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on July 19, 2012, 07:30:13 PM

The reason why Nolan went the realistic route was because up until Avengers, the belief was that you had to ground comic book movies in reality to appeal to the general public.

Cause Avengers was somehow less grounded and more escapist than the Spider-Man or X-Men movies, or Keaton as Batman or Reeves as Superman? Or, you know, the several previous Marvel movies that featured the same tone, visual effects, and goddamn cast as the Avengers?

Gee tee eff oh with that.

Tasty · « **Reply #131 on:** July 19, 2012, 11:17:52 PM »

Quote from: Huff on July 19, 2012, 10:56:39 PM

are the people that dislike/not really enjoy the recent batman films big comic fans?

No, just big contrarians. Or Marvel fans.

Batman is still pretty much the only comic game in town doing the realistic thing. I mean, think about that, of all the comic movies released in the past couple years, the "REALISM" "complaint" can only be levied at the three most recent Bat-films.

I do remember X-Men being pretty "realistic" for the time, but it was still about freaks with powers in the end.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #132 on:** July 19, 2012, 11:43:21 PM »

I'd kill to see a non-cheesy, well-written, awesomely violent Punisher movie.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #133 on:** July 20, 2012, 12:38:22 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 19, 2012, 08:22:47 PM

I have to wait until sometime next week to watch TDKR.

We might see it on Saturday if we can find someone to watch kiddo, but if that doesn't happen, I won't be seeing this until the first part of August.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #134 on:** July 20, 2012, 02:04:09 AM »

Seriously, I'm curious to hear a serious argument on the commercial viability of Guardians Of The Galaxy. Even the comic isn't popular

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The May 2008 sales estimates were that the first issue had sold 39,854 copies, making it the 61st top-selling comic title that month.[31] The first and second issues sold out;[32] they have been reprinted in a collected edition

At least two, maybe three of the heroes will be CGI.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #135 on:** July 20, 2012, 02:17:17 AM »

i always thought the 40s/50s batman was creepier because he was always smiling

imagine getting the shit beaten out of you by a dude who is not only wearing a ridiculous costume, but who is also laughing while he beats the shit out of you

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #136 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:30:07 AM »

Quote from: mojovonio on July 20, 2012, 03:24:19 AM

THAT WAS... not a good movie.

YOU'RE JUST HATING ON IT CUZ IT'S POPULAR

Tasty · « **Reply #137 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:31:26 AM »

Quote from: mojovonio on July 20, 2012, 03:24:19 AM

THAT WAS... not a good movie.

Did you like BB or TDK?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #138 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:47:27 AM »

The simplest thing I can say is that this movie took everything that was 'off' about the Dark Knight and expanded upon that. Generally... people acting really stupid and an unbelievably resourceful villain. Bad dialogue too. I wasn't pissed off too much about Catwoman honestly, well except for a few instances.

Himu · « **Reply #139 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:18:37 AM »

This movie was fucking amazing

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #140 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:25:19 AM »

Cajole will be the deciding vote/opinion

Himu · « **Reply #141 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:06:13 AM »

etiolate · « **Reply #142 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:18:27 AM »

Hearing Bane's voice was a little hard at times. When he was reading Gordon's letter, I kept wondering how he expected Gotham to actually understand what he was saying.

I thought Catwoman was good and that Nolan managed to make

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Robin

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likable. The actor helps in that as well.

I never like obvious exposition dialogue and there were a couple bits of that. I thought the police chief character (can't remember his name) was weak and never added much to the story. Plus, his charge seemed like an odd fight scene.

Everything to do with the pit was good.

Thing that I couldn't buy:

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Why wouldn't the military or those police be informed about the bomb decaying and being due to explode anyways? Did they take everyone's cellphone? Nobody could have hid a cellphone and managed to communicate? I would think that such info would be able to be communicated and those kids would be allowed to cross. As well, efforts would speed up.

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CrystalGemini · « **Reply #143 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:22:32 AM »

LOVED IT! I found it hard to understand a few characters in the movie but I usually have a hard time understanding people with accents.

Also, Anne Hathaway as Catwoman...DAYUM.

CrystalGemini · « **Reply #144 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:28:55 AM »

Batsuit looked horrible though. Liked the one in Begins better.

rodi · « **Reply #145 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:31:19 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on July 20, 2012, 03:47:27 AM

The simplest thing I can say is that this movie took everything that was 'off' about the Dark Knight and expanded upon that. Generally... people acting really stupid and an unbelievably resourceful villain. Bad dialogue too. I wasn't pissed off too much about Catwoman honestly, well except for a few instances.

This. Except I kind of liked Catwoman.

Eric P · « **Reply #146 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:13:38 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 19, 2012, 11:43:21 PM

I'd kill to see a non-cheesy, well-written, awesomely violent Punisher movie.

like War Zone?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #147 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:55:58 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2012, 04:25:19 AM

Cajole will be the deciding vote/opinion

You're gonna be waiting a while.

ManaByte · « **Reply #148 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:21:36 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 19, 2012, 11:43:21 PM

I'd kill to see a non-cheesy, well-written, awesomely violent Punisher movie.

CrystalGemini · « **Reply #149 on:** July 20, 2012, 10:22:10 AM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on July 20, 2012, 09:49:57 AM

Quote from: etiolate on July 20, 2012, 06:18:27 AM
I thought Catwoman was good and that Nolan managed to make
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likable. The actor helps in that as well.

Wait, you're saying that
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Robin
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is in this movie? Answer me this:
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is he played by JGL?
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GO WATCH THE MOVIE.

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Yes.

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Groogrux · « **Reply #150 on:** July 20, 2012, 10:26:50 AM »

I really liked it. My only wish is that I hadn't watched any of the trailers for it before going to see it.

I have to say that Nolin really pulled off the Bane story in convincing me that

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he was Ra's al Ghul's child

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especially when I knew that

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Talia was his daughter. He actually tricked my brain into forgetting that she existed.

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Shaka Khan · « **Reply #151 on:** July 20, 2012, 10:54:13 AM »

Fuck you all and fuck Tapatalk for having a borked spoiler feature that quotes rather hide them 90% of the time. I should have stayed out of this thread, I should have known better.

Eric P · « **Reply #152 on:** July 20, 2012, 11:12:18 AM »

now you can test that study that says you'll enjoy the film more knowing what's coming!

personally i am shocked and saddened by the tragedy of the colorado dark knight screening

some sociopath with no regard for his fellow human beings willfully and maliciously brought a 3 month old to a midnight movie screening

what a fucking asshole

cool breeze · « **Reply #153 on:** July 20, 2012, 11:19:26 AM »

I really liked it. Havent read other impressions but I can see people complaining about the end. And I watched begins and tdk in the past week, so first impressions of where tdkr falls is behind tdk, maybe, and better than begins. The plot got a bit dense and it felt long, sort of like inception. Tdk's first 100 or so minutes are amazingly paced; it only slows down with the ferry nonsense.

No trailers, tho. Wanted to see superman and skyfall.

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #154 on:** July 20, 2012, 11:21:18 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on July 20, 2012, 07:13:38 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on July 19, 2012, 11:43:21 PM
I'd kill to see a non-cheesy, well-written, awesomely violent Punisher movie.

like War Zone?

Another thing I noticed Eric P, was that theres a shot of Castle by his families tombstone, and then it cleverly cuts to a birds-eye view of the city, obviously because buildings look like tombstones.

It felt really clumsy.

cool breeze · « **Reply #155 on:** July 20, 2012, 11:25:07 AM »

Oh, and Bane ADR sounded weird. Comparing the prologue to the finished film, Bane almost sounds goofy. Not just the unrealistic sound but how hardy read those lines.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #156 on:** July 20, 2012, 12:50:44 PM »

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-20/time-warner-cancels-batman-premiere-in-paris-after-deaths.html

DKR is gonna make significantly less money this weekend because of that psycho yesterday. My friends don't want to watch it today anymore because they're so freaked out.

Robo · « **Reply #157 on:** July 20, 2012, 01:04:39 PM »

I'm not going tonight, for sure. The whole business creeps me out. Still see it Saturday at a matinee, probably.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #158 on:** July 20, 2012, 01:11:01 PM »

I'm seeing it tonight at 11:30 with Positive Touch. I'll be equipped with my Yemeni dagger just in case.

nudemacusers · « **Reply #159 on:** July 20, 2012, 01:14:24 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 20, 2012, 12:50:44 PM

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-20/time-warner-cancels-batman-premiere-in-paris-after-deaths.html

DKR is gonna make significantly less money this weekend because of that psycho yesterday. My friends don't want to watch it today anymore because they're so freaked out.

I wonder which member of film gaf will be the first to mention this "externality" in a box office thread.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #160 on:** July 20, 2012, 02:13:59 PM »

I know I'm a terrible person, but who the hell takes their 3-month old to a movie at midnight?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #161 on:** July 20, 2012, 02:18:17 PM »

Someone's getting fired:

https://twitter.com/celebboutique/status/226369632154570752

Eric P · « **Reply #162 on:** July 20, 2012, 02:20:50 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on July 20, 2012, 02:13:59 PM

I know I'm a terrible person, but who the hell takes their 3-month old to a movie at midnight?

sociopaths with no regard for their fellow man

Freyj · « **Reply #163 on:** July 20, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on July 20, 2012, 12:50:44 PM

DKR is gonna make significantly less money this weekend because of that psycho yesterday. My friends don't want to watch it today anymore because they're so freaked out.

I really don't understand this kind of fear / paranoia.

Anyway, loved the movie.

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Hearing "break you" and knowing exactly what was coming was such a fucking high. Excellent scene, one of my favorites of the trilogy by far.

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cool breeze · « **Reply #164 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:11:43 PM »

also, Marion Cotillard is strikingly beautiful. It wasn't fair to Anne Hathaway, or anyone on planet Earth.

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 20, 2012, 02:18:17 PM

Someone's getting fired:

https://twitter.com/celebboutique/status/226369632154570752

What did it say?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #165 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:18:33 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #166 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:28:55 PM »

seeing it in two hours. eek.

Freyj · « **Reply #167 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on July 20, 2012, 03:11:43 PM

also, Marion Cotillard is strikingly beautiful. It wasn't fair to Anne Hathaway, or anyone on planet Earth.

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That panning view of her as she's picking up the picture of Rachel at Wayne Manor. Hng.

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #168 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:42:04 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 20, 2012, 03:18:33 PM

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It's awful, but they updated that their PR is UK based and was not aware of the US shooting at the time of tweet. They seem terribly mortified and while it's going to haunt them forever I don't think it was done with malice or even awareness.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #169 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:47:22 PM »

That person is still getting fired.

Himu · « **Reply #170 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:53:33 PM »

People think that

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Bane's movement is commentary towards the Occupy movement in that only the rich are forced out of their homes and he occupies the government, wall street, in an authoritarian fantasy. the whole thing is ludicrous because 1. ows started after this thing even started filming and the script was finalized and 2. it's like saying that the joker is commentary on circus clowns

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Some people are CONVINCED that TDKR is authoritarian conservative fantasy.

Himu · « **Reply #171 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:58:18 PM »

as for the film itself, I'm still digesting it. but I still really like it and I can't wait to see it at imax tomorrow.

Fans of Begins will be in for a treat, as TDKR is more of a extension of what Nolan set out to do with Begins than continuing the TDK's more political ramifications. This makes the film feel more personal, even if thematically it's more spotty and sporadic than TDK. Still, the sense of finality, as it manages to weave Begins in really, really made a fantastic end to a great trilogy.

I think Begins fans will really like it. If you're more of a TDK fan, maybe not so much.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #172 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:03:49 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 20, 2012, 03:47:22 PM

That person is still getting fired.

Oh, yeah. No doubt. But it wasn't somebody thinking "how can I turn this shooting tragedy into sales for Kim Kardashian!"

Himu · « **Reply #173 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:05:18 PM »

Apparently Warner Bros. is being pressured into taking this out of theatres because of the shooting? Good lord, the media in this country is atrocious.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #174 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:20:56 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 20, 2012, 04:03:49 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 20, 2012, 03:47:22 PM
That person is still getting fired.

Oh, yeah. No doubt. But it wasn't somebody thinking "how can I turn this shooting tragedy into sales for Kim Kardashian!"

Absolutely. It's just incredible that the tweet was left up for an hour.

Himu · « **Reply #175 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:22:55 PM »

can you guys make a separate thread for the shooting?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #176 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:26:45 PM »

I thought the tweet was funny, ok.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #177 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:27:04 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 20, 2012, 04:05:18 PM

Apparently Warner Bros. is being pressured into taking this out of theatres because of the shooting? Good lord, the media in this country is atrocious.

Ugh, what?

Quote from: CajoleJuice on July 20, 2012, 04:26:45 PM

I thought the tweet was funny, ok.

(It was

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Himu · « **Reply #178 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:28:10 PM »

According to Cinemablend, that's what is happening, but I'm not sure of the accuracy of this report, hence 'apparently'.

Freyj · « **Reply #179 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:48:57 PM »

Major networks are removing TV ads from their lineups apparently (link). Absurd.

News:

Author Topic: The Dark Knight Rises (Read 52191 times)