Author Topic: The Dark Knight Rises (Read 52221 times)

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #180 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:51:50 PM »

Quote from: Freyj on July 20, 2012, 04:48:57 PM

Major networks are removing TV ads from their lineups apparently (link). Absurd.

Why? That's how marketing/advertisement tends to work: when a product gets tied to something like this, ads are pulled so the brand isn't sullied temporarily.

Freyj · « **Reply #181 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:56:03 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2012, 04:51:50 PM

Quote from: Freyj on July 20, 2012, 04:48:57 PM
Major networks are removing TV ads from their lineups apparently (link). Absurd.

Why? That's how marketing/advertisement tends to work: when a product gets tied to something like this, ads are pulled so the brand isn't sullied temporarily.

It's the networks rushing to pull the ads of their own accord.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #182 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:02:02 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2012, 04:51:50 PM

Why? That's how marketing/advertisement tends to work: when a product gets tied to something like this, ads are pulled so the brand isn't sullied temporarily.

Quote from: Freyj on July 20, 2012, 04:48:57 PM

Major networks are removing TV ads from their lineups apparently (link). Absurd.

I don't know how 'murricans usually run their business, but this strikes me as a strange reaction. As if the movie itself or some of its contents incited this crazy episode.

Mupepe · « **Reply #183 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:13:07 PM »

We have a long history of being overly sensitive

Himu · « **Reply #184 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:13:59 PM »

Also, overly reactionary.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #185 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:17:03 PM »

I fucking need to watch this before it gets pulled. POSITIVE TOUCH WHERE YOU AT?!

Himu · « **Reply #186 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:18:02 PM »

It is said that WB are being PRESSURED into pulling it, not that it WILL be pulled.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #187 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:19:06 PM »

I'm taking any chances!

SUDDENLY I'M HYPED ABOUT THIS MOVIE!

Edit: Oh shit, are you guys thinking what I''m thinking?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #188 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:19:28 PM »

Better see it before they put it in the Disney vault!

Himu · « **Reply #189 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:20:58 PM »

Hock · « **Reply #190 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:02:50 AM »

I liked it. I don't really know why but I wasn't as hyped for this one as I was for TDK (even though I loved it), just the trailers so far weren't getting me that excited. I was more excited just because its the third batman.

But I think it delivered. The one thing I was really worried about was that they would try to "top" TDK in some way. But it was a bit more straightforward this time IMO. Just a really long Batman story to end things, which I appreciated. The franchise deserves a long break after this.

As for stuff like dialogue, I already know its not gonna hold up the next time I see it (like TDK and Inception), but I kinda like that cheesy heroic stuff so I don't mind it.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #191 on:** July 21, 2012, 04:43:37 AM »

Really good movie. Not as good as TDK. TDK's plot felt very tight with all it's themes and plots seemingly fitting very well together. It was a really well ploted and told movie. Rises is not as good in the regard and some plot lines and the like feel a bit muddy. Things also feel a bit more "over the top" compared to TDK, which is fine. This one is a pretty straight forward movie though, but it's really entertaining and leads to a pretty exciting 3rd act.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #192 on:** July 21, 2012, 11:08:08 AM »

This film fucking rocked

Catwoman was amazing. Bane and Batman's fights were

SantaC · « **Reply #193 on:** July 21, 2012, 04:21:49 PM »

Batman fans are probably the worst fansboys on the net. Even rabid Apple and Nintendo fans are not sinking as low. But it is weird that it is only Nolan's Batman that they're rabid for. Because if you say you like Burton's Batman movies better, they go apeshit. Nolan's movies are some kind of holy grail that apparently cannot be criticized. I havent seen DKR yet, but I thought Batman Begins was very average, and Bale with this over the top voice was cringe worthy as hell. However, I admit that TDK is an awesome movie, But I thought it was only because of the Joker. Bale is not my favorite Batman for sure.

Himu · « **Reply #194 on:** July 21, 2012, 04:38:04 PM »

liking burton's films better is just hilarious more than anything, santa

Himu · « **Reply #195 on:** July 21, 2012, 04:39:46 PM »

seeing this at imax

Freyj · « **Reply #196 on:** July 21, 2012, 06:28:15 PM »

Wanted to see this in IMAX again this weekend, but everything is sold out. It should have a few months in IMAX at least.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #197 on:** July 21, 2012, 06:50:21 PM »

i think i wouldve liked this movie if i didnt fall asleep during the middle of it.

fuck getting old, i played $15 for this shit. apparently that part had some of the coolest action scenes, according to shaka. my review:

beginning - too slow; john conner needs to shut the fuck up about being a crybaby and put on the damn batsuit
middle -

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i passed out when alfred was all retiring because batman wanted to go kick some ass again. i woke up while they were trying to defuse a nuclear bomb

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end - WOW THIS LOOKS AWESOME i wish i knew what was going on and that there was more of this

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #198 on:** July 21, 2012, 07:08:59 PM »

There are no John Conners in this movie, buddy.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #199 on:** July 21, 2012, 07:39:12 PM »

im pretty sure this is a sequel to terminator 4

Himu · « **Reply #200 on:** July 22, 2012, 12:49:25 AM »

Watched it again on Imax. Still awesome.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #201 on:** July 22, 2012, 01:16:21 AM »

Like, I thoroughly enjoyed it, I've lots of things to say about it, but I don't feel like typing them out. I should see a doctor about this.

I will say though, the "seriousness" of the movie wasn't overwhelming and didn't stick out in a bad way, but I will agree with Patel on two things: Nolan needs to smile a little, it's getting too depressing, and Bane was distractingly British. His delivery almost felt like a parody. These two points kept echoing in my head while I was watching. Also, being a filthy foreigner and all, I had trouble focusing on what Batman and Bane were saying, especially bane. I need to read some transcripts.

One scene that a lot didn't enjoy but I adored was...

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When Cillian Murphy was sitting atop those piles of books and desks judging people. I'm not sure if such a scene was relevant to the plot or needed in general, but the mad man passing judgement on that set felt twisted enough to be from Alice in Wonderland. Maybe that's another thing that upset some about it, how much it was trying be some metaphorical and of a higher form.

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Barry Egan · « **Reply #202 on:** July 22, 2012, 05:55:40 AM »

That scene owned.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #203 on:** July 22, 2012, 07:39:57 AM »

Yes, no.

pollo · « **Reply #204 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:53:18 AM »

movie was great. will be seeing two more times in imax on tuesday and next saturday.

I feel like the pacing problems were finally eliminated with this one, which imo has been the main problem for nolan's batman franchises.

still wouldn't put it above TDK, just because of Heath Ledger alone, but TDKR is fucking awesome.

I don't know how anyone can do a reboot after this. JGL was awesome btw.

pollo · « **Reply #205 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:02:55 AM »

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Question about JGL:

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Does he wear a Robin/Nightwing-esque suit at any point?
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no

Barry Egan · « **Reply #206 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:05:56 AM »

I wish

Positive Touch · « **Reply #207 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:26:29 AM »

all i could think of whenever bane talked was "you're the man now, dog!"

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #208 on:** July 22, 2012, 03:51:10 PM »

I thought the movie was good. It tried to be great but didn't manage it. My primary problem with this movie is that it feels like a 3-3.5 hour movie crammed into a 2.5 hour movie. Nearly ever scene felt like it was rushing to finish so we could move on to the next. The pace was too quick for me and there was never any time to reflect on what is going on. This is the same problem I had with the last third of TDK. We're talking about scenes that last ~30 seconds and contain a great deal of information that ends and we're shuffled off to the next. IMO the entire first act is the worst offender because it has to jam so much exposition and story setup and it feels like too much. Going into the second and third act it wasn't as bad.

I liked the story they built around Bane and felt he was a good villain that he was a legit threat. His plan was super complicated and kinda of ludicrous but they managed to make me believe he is the super intelligent foe that would be able to do what he's doing. However his voice? terrible. I hated it. The speech in front of Black Gate felt completely flat for me.

OK some more thoughts but with spoilers attached:

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I too was fooled about the Bane reveal. I knew the chick was Talia. I knew she was going to turn on Batman. I had no idea they would reveal it the way they did. I liked the reveal and felt it didn't come out of nowhere. They hinted at it by having a masked person *save* "Bane" and never told us who it was. That was such a clear hint that I had an "aha!" moment when they started to reveal it. Pretty good stuff there.

My favorite scene in the entire movie was the opening plane hijack. It was well shot, paced, and looked damn cool.

The atom bomb plot point was too forced IMO. I at no point believed there was any danger of it going off. When you escalate that much to nukes you're pretty much guaranteeing that it's not going to happen. Especially not against the city.

Catwoman was OK. It wasn't a breakout performance and she didn't steal the show or anything.

Robin. FUCK. I literally groaned out loud and rolled my eyes at this reveal.

Bane's demise felt anti-climatic.

Overall not enough Batman action. His "return" didn't seem epic or anything. Lacked punch.

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I would say this movie is better overall than TDK. The villain isn't as good but the story is more complete and it doesnt fall a part at the end. Avengers was a more enjoyable experience.

Himu · « **Reply #209 on:** July 22, 2012, 03:52:52 PM »

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Talia should have been revealed at the halfway point when Bane takes over the city.

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #210 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:08:53 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 22, 2012, 03:52:52 PM

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Talia should have been revealed at the halfway point when Bane takes over the city.
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Nah.

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IMO holding off made it work because they don't try to make you question the Bane origin at all. Then when they do the reveal you're like. OH. YEAH!

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Himu · « **Reply #211 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:10:48 PM »

but

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it makes talia's existence as a villain trivial since she only has a car chase and talia deserves more cuz she is among my favorite batman villains and and and and and

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I think it would have had more impact if she appeared during the bane fight in the sewers and THEN stabbed batman, enabling bane to break his back and then she takes him personally to the prison and lays down her background.

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Shaka Khan · « **Reply #212 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:15:02 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on July 22, 2012, 03:51:10 PM

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The atom bomb plot point was too forced IMO. I at no point believed there was any danger of it going off. When you escalate that much to nukes you're pretty much guaranteeing that it's not going to happen. Especially not against the city.

Bane's demise felt anti-climatic.

Overall not enough Batman action. His "return" didn't seem epic or anything. Lacked punch.

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I agree with these three points so very, very much. I even discussed with Positive the final one. Just not enough Batman overall. He was overshadowed by many more interesting things.

Himu · « **Reply #213 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:16:05 PM »

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Why did Nolan use a BOMB in a Batman movie? I mean, Adam West Batman anyone?

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #214 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:35:05 PM »

some other comments:

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I liked that this movie did feel like the ending to both BB and TDK. They managed to take two movies that were basically separate and had very little to do with each other and followed through on the consequences of both. This movie is the result of the events from BB and TDK and I don't think we could have gotten to this point without them. It really is the end of a true trilogy and not just the 3rd movie in a franchise.

I complained about the frantic pace of the movie and I still maintain that it's the primary fault, but I do think it added to the overall tone which is anarchy and chaos.

It's funny when you think about what Joker did and how he failed because all he was was a "dog chasing a car". His plan was all setup and no thought in the execution or end-game. Talia/Bane's plan had a lot of setup and also seemed to have a clear end-game in mind. They wanted Gotham to fall into utter chaos with hope of survival (mirrored by Bruce's circumstance as well in the prison hole, the sun at the top of the hole being his hope). Bane made everyone think that as long as the rules were followed they could survive. He wanted everything to hope they would get out only to have that hope washed away when the bomb eventually went off. That idea really works for me. Bane also did it so Bruce could see it himself as he as well struggled with the hope of survival.

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IMO I think this movie is going to far better in the long term than TDK did.

Himu · « **Reply #215 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:39:04 PM »

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a lot of people seem to think the bane's motivations are poor because WHY PUT BRUCE IN A PRISON WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE TO ESCAPE? and WHY NOT JUST LET THE BOMB GO OFF WHEN THEY FIRST GET IT? and it's like they're completely missing the fact that THAT'S THE POINT

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Himu · « **Reply #216 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:41:12 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on July 22, 2012, 04:35:05 PM

IMO I think this movie is going to far better in the long term than TDK did.

I think it's even better on a rewatch.

the movie has a lot of content and stuff to say. even if it's not perfectly pulled off, it has a lot more to talk about than TDK"s "well what was your favorite part?!?!?!?!"

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #217 on:** July 22, 2012, 04:48:20 PM »

It's a product of the fact that the movies only real problems are plot setup and exposition. When you watch it for the first time and you don't know what's going on you have to process SO MUCH and it can be overwhelming.

Next time you know what's going on and can catch the little things.

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #218 on:** July 22, 2012, 05:24:46 PM »

Are the fight scenes long takes, or is it all over the place?

cool breeze · « **Reply #219 on:** July 22, 2012, 05:35:01 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on July 22, 2012, 04:08:53 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 22, 2012, 03:52:52 PM
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Talia should have been revealed at the halfway point when Bane takes over the city.
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Nah.

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IMO holding off made it work because they don't try to make you question the Bane origin at all. Then when they do the reveal you're like. OH. YEAH!
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yeah

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They made me write off Talia after Bane's origin, so I was genuinely surprised at the reveal. Also, I'm not too bright. That helped.

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Boogie · « **Reply #220 on:** July 22, 2012, 07:56:29 PM »

Movie kicked ass. That is all.

Okay, not quite. I found it odd, that whereas in BB and TDK, Gotham was a cross between being its own unique city and/or a modelled after Chicago, the city was just blatantly Manhattan in this movie. Large establishing shots of the Brooklyn bridge, the Empire State Building, the under-construction new WTC tower. It was all very jarring to me.

Quote from: Linkzg on July 22, 2012, 05:35:01 PM

yeah

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They made me write off Talia after Bane's origin, so I was genuinely surprised at the reveal. Also, I'm not too bright. That helped.
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I liked the reveal, and how they put it off to the very end. I had heard speculation online that fans thought the Marion Cotillard role would end up being Talia, and so throughout the movie, I was waiting for the villain reveal.

I was expecting it when she took over on the Board at Wayne Enterprises....but nope. I was expecting it when she and Bruce spent the night in Wayne Manor....but nope. So by the final act, I had been lulled into a false sense of security, thinking "hmm, looks like the fan speculation was wrong" and then BOOM, revealed as Talia. Thought that was probably the best way to do it.

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Boogie · « **Reply #221 on:** July 22, 2012, 07:57:27 PM »

Also, where the fuck are the weekend box office estimates? They usually come out early afternoon on Sunday, but it's friggin' 8pm and boxofficemojo still hasn't updated. Curious to see what the film grossed.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #222 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:00:04 PM »

I heard the numbers were purposely held back... out of respect?

Either way, people started losing their shit elsewhere and it's kinda fun to watch.

Boogie · « **Reply #223 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:01:06 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on July 22, 2012, 08:00:04 PM

I heard the numbers were purposely held back... out of respect?

the hell? That's distinguished mentally-challenged.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #224 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:01:34 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on July 22, 2012, 07:57:27 PM

Also, where the fuck are the weekend box office estimates? They usually come out early afternoon on Sunday, but it's friggin' 8pm and boxofficemojo still hasn't updated. Curious to see what the film grossed.

I just checked that site and thought the same thing. I checked around a few sites and the estimates range from $160-162 million.

http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainment/tv/tvguide/article/Box-Office-Dark-Knight-Rises-Expected-to-Become-3726505.php

Boogie · « **Reply #225 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:03:56 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on July 22, 2012, 08:01:34 PM

Quote from: Boogie on July 22, 2012, 07:57:27 PM
Also, where the fuck are the weekend box office estimates? They usually come out early afternoon on Sunday, but it's friggin' 8pm and boxofficemojo still hasn't updated. Curious to see what the film grossed.

I just checked that site and thought the same thing. I checked around a few sites and the estimates range from $160-162 million.

http://www.seattlepi.com/entertainment/tv/tvguide/article/Box-Office-Dark-Knight-Rises-Expected-to-Become-3726505.php

wow, that would be super low compared to what people were predicting beforehand.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #226 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:05:49 PM »

Needless to say, the BO nerds seem more upset that the shooting causes TDKR to come in lower than The Avengers than that...you know...a shooting happened.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #227 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:08:53 PM »

"But it isn't in 3D and there was that shooting thing! Otherwise it could have made $250 million!!!!

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pollo · « **Reply #228 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:51:56 PM »

can someone link me to scenes from the movie? Solo is talking about watching the ending about 25 times.

I suck at youtubing/googling shit,so if anyone can help me out id appreciate it.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #229 on:** July 23, 2012, 05:30:07 PM »

Finally went to go see TDKR today; 45 minutes before the ending the fire department showed up and made everyone evacuate. $:-\$

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #230 on:** July 23, 2012, 05:32:59 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 23, 2012, 05:30:07 PM

Finally went to go see TDKR today; 45 minutes before the ending the fire department showed up and made everyone evacuate. $:-\$

This could have been avoided if you exercised your constitutional rights and brought your fire extinguisher

Positive Touch · « **Reply #231 on:** July 23, 2012, 05:46:24 PM »

ManaByte · « **Reply #232 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:12:11 PM »

Quote from: pollo on July 22, 2012, 09:51:56 PM

can someone link me to scenes from the movie? Solo is talking about watching the ending about 25 times.

I suck at youtubing/googling shit,so if anyone can help me out id appreciate it.

He torrented a cam. You can brag about pirating movies on GAF, just not games.

Diunx · « **Reply #233 on:** July 27, 2012, 12:40:52 PM »

Movie was awesome!!!!!

the Bane/Batman fights where great, it was good to finally see batman in a cool fistfight.

Only problem I had with the movie is that it needed to be longer.

Huff · « **Reply #234 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:03:04 PM »

Nolan wrote a goodbye piece to batman

http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/christopher-nolan-bids-farewell-to-batman-franchise-in-mustread-letter-718682.html

not much to it, but no spoilers to people that haven't seen tdkr like me

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #235 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:19:12 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on July 27, 2012, 12:40:52 PM

Movie was awesome!!!!!

the Bane/Batman fights where great, it was good to finally see batman in a cool fistfight.

Only problem I had with the movie is that it needed to be longer.

I really liked it, too. Maybe not quite as good as The Dark Knight, which really felt like it was just the perfect length for the story, but still had a lot of great scenes [and a few that weren't so great] and some great performances [especially Anne Hathaway and Michael Caine]. I thought they handled Bane pretty well, except for his voice which just didn't work for me. The fist fights were nice, just good old-fashioned bare-knuckle brawling.

Maybe there will be a director's cut with 45 extra minutes of scenes.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #236 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »

jarosh went on a twitter rant about how awful this movie was. oh jarosh

Diunx · « **Reply #237 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:48:38 PM »

Fucking swedes.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #238 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:51:30 PM »

Jarosh is cool, but you have to keep in mind that he's a whimsy lover. Not much of that in DKR

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #239 on:** July 27, 2012, 01:56:04 PM »

"Drab color palette is boring, no humorous sidekick to liven things up. 1.5/5"

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