Author Topic: GTAV - first person mode in pc/ps4/xb1 :o (Read 217235 times)

Raban · « **Reply #600 on:** September 03, 2013, 11:58:29 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 03, 2013, 02:24:55 AM

anyone else noticing that the type of woman himuro is transitioning into is lan?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #601 on:** September 04, 2013, 02:29:44 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #602 on:** September 04, 2013, 02:56:17 PM »

Guys do not read the ign preview article for gtav lest you want to kill yourself. It's that bad and everything you're expecting: full on wank, corporate suck up-ism, and complete and utter fellatio in its text. You can virtually hear the author fapping on the other side of his monitor. AVOID. I'm going to avoid all GTAV previews and reviews from now on. Only my opinion matters at this point.

Rufus · « **Reply #603 on:** September 04, 2013, 02:57:35 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 04, 2013, 02:56:17 PM

Guys do not read the ign

Done!

Himu · « **Reply #604 on:** September 04, 2013, 02:58:36 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #605 on:** September 04, 2013, 03:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 04, 2013, 02:56:17 PM

Guys do not read the ign preview article for gtav lest you want to kill yourself. It's that bad and everything you're expecting: full on wank, corporate suck up-ism, and complete and utter fellatio in its text. You can virtually hear the author fapping on the other side of his monitor. AVOID. I'm going to avoid all GTAV previews and reviews from now on. Only my opinion matters at this point.

I'm totally shocked by this unexpected turn of events!

Himu · « **Reply #606 on:** September 04, 2013, 03:34:30 PM »

After GTAIV, I can't take any single review seriously, so I'm going to judge the game completely on my own. Thing is, the beginning of GTAIV is GREAT, and it gets worse...and worse...until you reach the final mission and you just want to snap that disc in half. Reports that a lot of the press didn't play the full game are rampant and I have no reason at all to take them seriously after GTAIV. So this time, for the first time ever, I'm going to rush through the story of a GTA game. GTA Online is practically forcing me to do so anyways. I think 2 weeks is enough time to beat the story.

So you guys can hold off for two weeks to see if the single player game is good. I'm sure most of you guys can wait anyways.

El Babua · « **Reply #607 on:** September 04, 2013, 08:36:16 PM »

Agreed with Himu. The beginning of GTA4 is a legit 10/10.

Then the story crumbles to dust after the first act and you realize there really isn't anything fun to do in the city. Still, some of the multiplayer modes were ace.

Hell, you can say the same for MGS4; another game released a month after GTA4 that got stellar reviews. Only difference is that the story fell apart after the second act and I never bothered with the multiplayer because of Konami's distinguished mentally-challenged. The summer of '08 was such a magical time for games journalism.

Himu · « **Reply #608 on:** September 04, 2013, 08:39:44 PM »

Yeah, beginning of GTAIV was and still is amazing to me. After Roman's depot and apartment burn, it's downhill from there.

MGS4 is another front loaded game.

A big part of GTAIV's backlash came from the fact that after the first part of the game, there was a large revelation that the game was entirely devoid of content or variety, as the game continued to crumble piece after piece.

chronovore · « **Reply #609 on:** September 04, 2013, 09:25:45 PM »

Yeah, there is a lot of care and devotion and HOPE when GTA IV's in "tutorial mode," in that initial run. The mood, the graphics, the tone... it's wonderful. And you can see on the map that you're just in one tiny corner of Liberty City, so you look out across the world and think, OH, MY GOD, THIS IS GOING TO BE STELLAR. THIS GAME... IT IS SO RICH AND REPLETE.

Right up until you land at the Broker apartment. Despite Broker looking even more interesting than any previous area, it's from that point forward where the story meanders, your cousins and girlfriends start calling you all the time to drive across the map, and the seams begin to show, and wear thin.

Himu · « **Reply #610 on:** September 04, 2013, 09:50:11 PM »

I don't think it got bad until Algonquin.

Broker - fantastic, still feel this way after my replay last year. Each and every character you work for has a specific arc and interesting plot development. GTA is at its best when the missions give a feeling an arc, are continuous and build up a grand story rather than do random missions for jokers. Broker is fantastic about this and the mission variety is the best in the game.

Bohan - not as good Broker but still decent. The missions still contain arcs but characters start to become flamboyant - such as Manny or Brucie - despite the overall tone of the game being more realistic than the past. They feel like they don't belong in the game. However the sections with Michelle remain fantastic and I like how Rockstar integrated her into the story.

Algonqui - the plot meanders, Niko lacks any sense of humanity, his character development halts to a stand still, mission variety is non existent, location variety during missions is non existent, the realization that the game is devoid of odd jobs and side activities like the past and how completely fucking empty the game world is. Those arcs I was talking about? Completely stop. There's hints of them in the McReary fratricide storyline and the Gracie kidnapping missions (which I love due to how episodic and interconnected each mission in that storyline is). You go from impactful missions that tell a larger story to...I dunno why I'm doing this.

Alderney - Jesus fucking Wept.

GTAIV is the complete opposite of San Andreas or even Vice City in this regard. In VC AND SA once past the initial hump the game completely opens up. You go from inside one city in Los Santos to traveling the countryside and exploring for explorations sake. IV never had such a moment.

I'm hoping with V that having three characters fixes this issue. Since you're three different characters in three different parts of the county, they have the opportunity to tell three smaller stories instead of one grand one. This could help in regards to editing We also get the variety in locales we didn't get with IV which also likely means more variety in missions. Also since you're three characters, reason suggests that instead of always working for dudes and doing random shit for assholes, most of the missions are self serving and the three characters are the ones mostly planning stuff. Since the game is about heists, there's very little reason for the game to devolve into the repetitive go to this random warehouse and kill these random mooks that we had to suffer with in IV.

The more I see of IV the more I think it was a 100 million dollar beta test for GTAV.

Also considering the press probably only got 10-20 hours into GTAIV it makes me more sympathetic towards the review scores. Because I really think the Broker part is that good.

Himu · « **Reply #611 on:** September 04, 2013, 09:52:00 PM »

Quote from: Exodust SoulBurn on September 04, 2013, 09:47:24 PM

I remember the moment when I decided I really hated GTA IV. I was on a tailing mission then fucking Roman calls me up. instinctively I press the sprint button but he picks up the phone and does that slow paced walk when he's on the phone and I failed the mission.

Fucking terribly designed, controlled and made game. Anyone who says they like that game is a huge fucking idiot.

I'm mixed on it. I like some of IV. I like the multi. I LOVE the expansions. I like the first part of the story, I like some of the missions. But it is ultimately a game full of flaws left and right enough to make me forget all of this.

And despite all of this I've clocked at least 150 hours in this incarnation of Liberty City between the expansions, the main game, replays, online, and desperate grasps get the appeal of the second half of the game.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #612 on:** September 05, 2013, 01:42:08 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 04, 2013, 02:56:17 PM

Guys do not read the ign preview article for gtav lest you want to kill yourself. It's that bad and everything you're expecting: full on wank, corporate suck up-ism, and complete and utter fellatio in its text. You can virtually hear the author fapping on the other side of his monitor. AVOID. I'm going to avoid all GTAV previews and reviews from now on. Only my opinion matters at this point.

Sounds like every games journalism article ever.

Except for the GIA of course.

Himu · « **Reply #613 on:** September 05, 2013, 01:57:34 AM »

No, no. This is different. He writes it as if it's a fucking novel.

Samples:

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It was pure Hollywood. A random, breathtaking moment of awesome directly stemming from a decision I made. A purely emergent, life-and-death dance more exciting than every pre-constructed, quick-time event I’ve ever half-heartedly button-bashed my way through.

Make no mistake; Grand Theft Auto V is made of moments just like this.

And it feels incredible

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To the right, over the ocean, the sun is setting. The sky glows orange as I near the first turn-off. Pulling into a more built-up area of town I’m reminded of the obsessive, incidental detail that amazed me during our first, hands-off demonstration. The cracked roads. The bespoke graffiti lining the walls. The unique shopfronts and billboards littering your line of sight. The city is colourful yet weathered. Living but lived-in. Like Liberty City before it, Los Santos is already making me feel as much like a tourist as a player.

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Never mind November; I suspect the next generation will start when GTA V says it does.

My favorite:

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Trevor and the bike sprang out from in front of the encroaching truck like a stabbed cat.

Like a stabbed cat? What does this even MEAN?

chronovore · « **Reply #614 on:** September 05, 2013, 03:35:31 AM »

Stabbed cat.

Dystinguished gentlemang has ISH-hues.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #615 on:** September 05, 2013, 04:01:37 AM »

I really hate rockstar for not releasing this on PS4 and Xbone on launch.

It would be all I need at launch, uprezzed graphics, 60fps.

:'(

WHY ROCKSTAR WHY

Himu · « **Reply #616 on:** September 05, 2013, 04:03:49 AM »

Because more people own ps3s and 360s and people are gonna double dip on this shit anyways.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #617 on:** September 05, 2013, 04:32:18 AM »

Imagine if its already in the making and they just didny announce it yet... Out launch

Himu · « **Reply #618 on:** September 05, 2013, 10:45:35 AM »

Lager.

If they announced a next Gen release now it would cut sales. Some people would wait.They are not going to announce a fucking next Gen version before the current console versions drop. Why do you think that is?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #619 on:** September 05, 2013, 10:50:09 AM »

Bought it through Amazon last night so I won't get it until a few days after release. This and BF 4 are my only big fall gaming purchases so hopefully this turns out to be as good as I hope.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #620 on:** September 05, 2013, 10:50:24 AM »

I know himu, they will be out next year around November, GOTY edition.

cool breeze · « **Reply #621 on:** September 08, 2013, 01:37:55 AM »

Caved in and ordered this. Super slumming it with the PS3 version :'(

GTA Online is too enticing. I hope that's the prototype for GTA6.

chronovore · « **Reply #622 on:** September 08, 2013, 09:45:15 AM »

GTA V will have DLC to follow up on its success, akin to TLAD and TBOGT.

They'll also ship a sequel for RDR before VI.

The wait for GTA VI will be a looooong one.

Himu · « **Reply #623 on:** September 08, 2013, 11:52:14 AM »

No Houser said they aren't doing that type of doc anymore. They're going to do smaller sized dlc that's cheaper. The Episodes weren't a successful money venture in IV so they aren't doing it again.

chronovore · « **Reply #624 on:** September 08, 2013, 07:07:22 PM »

Huh. That's... A little hard to believe.

I believe you that he said it, but it is hard to believe they weren't profitable, or where they blew it in making the DLC unprofitable.

The plan was essentially the same for RDR, in that it was supported with robust DLC which was later offered as standalone disc-based retail product. I wonder if that was also unprofitable.

Himu · « **Reply #625 on:** September 09, 2013, 02:56:35 AM »

Here's a link on it:

http://www.shacknews.com/article/71158/rockstar-focusing-on-smaller-dlc-in-the-future

Combined with Episodes not performing to expectations (see: http://www.1up.com/news/gta4-dlc-sold-expected)

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #626 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:03:30 PM »

Gonna try to get through as much of a San Andreas playthrough as I can before 5 five arrives for me on Thursday or Friday of next week.

chronovore · « **Reply #627 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:09:11 PM »

I've thought about that a few times as well. I'm not even sure WHY I want to do it.

San Andreas was a helluva great game, though.

Himu · « **Reply #628 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:44:27 PM »

I replayed SA in the past year on xbox and pc. I've beaten it twice.

The occasional feature from 2004 aside, it's still great. I suggest playing it on Xbox (360 bc allows 360 support. No black/white buttons so those buttons are on bumpers. You can also make shooting mapped to triggers. 360 bc version is THE superior console method) or pc. Problem with pc is that the steam version is patched out of widescreen because R* took out mod support and other shit, post-hot coffee. So you have to downgrade your file, which in some cases is outright illegal if you're privy on that thing. It's a bitch and a half.

But when you get it working, the pc version is easily the best version.

On SA itself: I think it's the best 3d GTA now. The scale and mission variety just can't be beat.

Just try to get to the Catalina missions before GTAV for a real treat and maybe a teaser for what's to come. Gosh the Catalina missions are still amazing to me, getting kicked out of Los Santos and wandering the countryside. The entire setup is still

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #629 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:54:06 PM »

SA is a national treasure, loved that game.

Himu · « **Reply #630 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:54:55 PM »

SA was made in Britain.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #631 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:55:41 PM »

This is America, we take what we want.

Himu · « **Reply #632 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:02:42 PM »

The best of Catalina:

Himu · « **Reply #633 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:07:31 PM »

Buy a console, poor.

Himu · « **Reply #634 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:14:40 PM »

I'm from the suburbs of North Houston. My neighborhood is already gentrified.

cool breeze · « **Reply #635 on:** September 10, 2013, 04:52:34 PM »

Playing GTASA last week is what convinced me to order GTAV. Loaded up my save, got a motorcycle from my airstrip garage, and rode from venturas to los santos while listening to K-DST. Reminded me of how much fun these games could be.

I know GTAV isn't as big, and it could be as wack as GTA4, but I'm ready to take a chance again

chronovore · « **Reply #636 on:** September 10, 2013, 07:54:07 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2013, 01:55:41 PM

This is America, we take what we want.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #637 on:** September 10, 2013, 08:43:38 PM »

When you haven't played a game in so long it almost feels like a new game.

I forgot how low the health in cars were in this era of GTA.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #638 on:** September 10, 2013, 08:59:55 PM »

My concern is that I enjoy it, but the frame rate annoys me enough to stop playing before the inevitable PC version comes out.

Raban · « **Reply #639 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:05:43 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2013, 08:43:38 PM

When you haven't played a game in so long it almost feels like a new game.

I forgot how low the health in cars were in this era of GTA.

Especially GTA3. Ten collisions and the car's toast. Vice City bumped it to around 20, San Andreas is probably double that.

Something I really appreciated about GTA IV was that you could nick ledges, lampposts, and other cars without affecting your momentum all that much, which is a huge change from the PS2 games. The slightest clip could send your car vertical at the right speed.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #640 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:10:22 PM »

Yep. I was going to mention that too. There are certain small collisions that absolutely fuck you and are quite annoying.

chronovore · « **Reply #641 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:27:10 PM »

I sure as hell remember the difference between the Ambulance missions in GTA III and Liberty City Stories, as it was immediately apparent. I'd never been able to finish them in GTA III, but before my PS2 copy of LCS arrived, I decided to get some practice in. I managed to get up to level 10 or 11 in III, but still not finish it.

When LCS arrived, I immediately went for it, and ended up clearing the mission on my first try.

The Ambulances were less wobbly and fragile, for sure.

Another annoying thing which they fixed in GTA IV was the terrain pop-in. I hated driving at high speed and then have my car just stopped, whammo, and then have the landscape fade in some wall or barricade which hadn't previously been there.

Himu · « **Reply #642 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:41:58 PM »

I love how long it takes for a car to go kablooey in IV

Raban · « **Reply #643 on:** September 10, 2013, 11:17:02 PM »

The cars that would spontaneously combust upon being flipped over were a little funny, though

you had to haul ass outta there

Himu · « **Reply #644 on:** September 10, 2013, 11:37:44 PM »

On the other hand, the physics are shit and slow as molasses so if your car is on fire and you do a jump escape, Niko will roll out and take forever to get back up. Or god forbid you're driving slowly and have to suffer through that slow ass animation for Niko to get the fuck out of the car.

Himu · « **Reply #645 on:** September 11, 2013, 01:01:13 PM »

So according to the new game informer gta online has been in development since gta3 - that is 13 years.

Whaaaaaat?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #646 on:** September 11, 2013, 01:16:25 PM »

I'm assuming you're kidding but that's not what they mean obviously. It's just ideas.

Himu · « **Reply #647 on:** September 11, 2013, 01:27:11 PM »

No, Stoney. You don't get it. It has been development since gta3! Like, they've been working on it all this time in their basements and attics, man.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Haha

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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #648 on:** September 11, 2013, 01:47:26 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on September 11, 2013, 01:27:11 PM

No, Stoney. You don't get it. It has been development since gta3! Like, they've been working on it all this time in their basements and attics, man.

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It features the very latest in Renderware technology.

Raban · « **Reply #649 on:** September 11, 2013, 01:50:50 PM »

I would play a GTA Online based on the Renderware engine if it meant having more than 16 players

cool breeze · « **Reply #650 on:** September 11, 2013, 01:53:51 PM »

I read about that yesterday. Again, I want a greatly expanded GTA Online to be the goal for the next game. As for other unrealistic expectations, a funhouse sized United States map, similar to The Crew, would be awesome. Reuse GTA4's Liberty City and GTA5's map and build around them...use Red Dead Redemption's map for the middle states, and really, all that needs to be built is Vice City.

Himu · « **Reply #651 on:** September 11, 2013, 03:47:12 PM »

They should be making San Fiero and Las Venturas for extra content too

chronovore · « **Reply #652 on:** September 11, 2013, 10:13:55 PM »

http://kotaku.com/leaked-grand-theft-auto-v-map-is-massive-1287570002

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Edit: My bad, sorry!

Himu · « **Reply #653 on:** September 11, 2013, 10:16:57 PM »

SPOILERS.

PLEASE.

PLEASE.

pleasepleasepleasespoilers

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #654 on:** September 11, 2013, 10:40:09 PM »

I'm not really impressed with the map. I don't really get where people are seeing it as being "massive". It looks large but lacks the variety of something like San Andreas. It's basically the Los Santos section from the San Andreas map.

Raban · « **Reply #655 on:** September 11, 2013, 10:47:39 PM »

I don't see where they got the "GTAIV+RDR combined size", that's some Rockstar Special Brand bullshit. Now, Rockstar is typically pretty damn good at level design so it'll probably be fun to navigate regardless of the size, but that map is significantly smaller than I thought, given their comments. It's a missed opportunity that there isn't some sort of island separate from the mainland.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #656 on:** September 11, 2013, 11:34:21 PM »

Himu you'd better not check this out. Huge spoilers!

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Himu · « **Reply #657 on:** September 11, 2013, 11:36:53 PM »

Please spoiler all leaks.

cool breeze · « **Reply #658 on:** September 11, 2013, 11:37:10 PM »

Quote from: Raban on September 11, 2013, 10:47:39 PM

I don't see where they got the "GTAIV+RDR combined size", that's some Rockstar Special Brand bullshit. Now, Rockstar is typically pretty damn good at level design so it'll probably be fun to navigate regardless of the size, but that map is significantly smaller than I thought, given their comments. It's a missed opportunity that there isn't some sort of island separate from the mainland.

iirc they're including underwater and stuff in that estimate.

world looks plenty big. too big for only 16 players :'(

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #659 on:** September 11, 2013, 11:37:59 PM »

Quote from: fryinghigh on September 11, 2013, 11:37:10 PM

Quote from: Raban on September 11, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
I don't see where they got the "GTAIV+RDR combined size", that's some Rockstar Special Brand bullshit. Now, Rockstar is typically pretty damn good at level design so it'll probably be fun to navigate regardless of the size, but that map is significantly smaller than I thought, given their comments. It's a missed opportunity that there isn't some sort of island separate from the mainland.

iirc they're including underwater and stuff in that estimate.

world looks plenty big. too big for only 16 players :'(

I agree on both counts.

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Author Topic: GTAV - first person mode in pc/ps4/xb1 :o (Read 217235 times)