Lance Armstrong to finally admit what we all knew (Rick Reilly u mad bro?)

[Stoney Mason]

Somewhere Rick Reilly is softly crying.

Lance Armstrong will admit to doping during his famed cycling career in an upcoming interview with Oprah Winfrey, according to USA Today Sports.

The newspaper cites a source who says that while Armstrong will confess, it is unlikely he will go into specific details about his doping.

The interview will tape Monday, but won't air until Thursday.

According to Winfrey's website on Tuesday, this will be a "no-holds-barred interview" with Armstrong, who was stripped of seven Tour de France titles in October.

It will be the first interview with Armstrong since his cycling career crumbled under the weight of a massive report by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. The report detailed accusations of drug use by Armstrong and teammates on his U.S. Postal Service teams. It caused him to lose most of his personal corporate sponsors, and he recently stepped down from the board of Livestrong, the cancer-fighting charity he founded in 1997.

The New York Times, citing anonymous sources, reported last week that Armstrong was considering a confession to help restore his athletic career in triathlons and running events at age 41. Armstrong has been banned for life from competing in sporting events governed by the World Anti-Doping Agency code.

David Howman, director general of WADA, said earlier this month that USADA, not WADA, would have the authority to decide whether to reopen Armstrong's case if Armstrong were to present new information.

"It's (USADA's) issue, although they could come to us to ask for guidance or advice," he said.

Speaking in general terms and not specifically about the Armstrong case, Howman said new information that might merit revisiting a case could pertain to the individual defendant or shed light on others involved in doping offenses. He said there is precedent for cases to be reopened and it would be "nonsensical" to close off that possibility.

The WADA code provides for reduced penalties in instances in which athletes provide "substantial assistance" in resolving other doping cases.

Howman did not want to speculate on the effect of a potential Armstrong confession.

"This is such a significant case with so many issues, and it has had a considerable effect not only on the sport of cycling but the world sports scene itself," Howman said.

Armstrong is facing other legal hurdles.

The U.S. Department of Justice is considering whether to join a federal whistle-blower lawsuit filed by former Armstrong teammate Floyd Landis. A Dallas-based promotions company also has said it wants to recover several million dollars paid to Armstrong in bonuses for winning the Tour de France. The British newspaper, The Sunday Times, has sued Armstrong to recover $500,000 paid to him to settle a libel lawsuit.

[Great Rumbler]

[Himu]

I can't believe someone who landed on the moon would ever take drugs.

[DCharlieJP]

Who gets those tour wins then? Given everyone was juicing to fuck it probably goes to the 37th placed dude- but in the last discussion on that the response seemed to be it would devalue the placing ... So rather than it goes to the best cleanest rider it would go to the least druggy top 10 rider ... Or something ?

Anyone know what current thinking is?

[Fifstar]

I think the titles won't be reawarded to somebody else, they are just void.

Also lol at Armstrong now confessing so he can compete in triathlons now that he is already convicted.

[AdmiralViscen]

I think the titles won't be reawarded to somebody else, they are just void.

Also lol at Armstrong now confessing so he can compete in triathlons now that he is already convicted.

The article seems to indicate that he can't just confess, he has to sell out other people too

[Smooth Groove]

probably just gonna admit that he was living strong

I can't believe someone who landed on the moon would ever take drugs.

 

[brob]

is he gonna bring all the money he stole and give it back?

[Joe Molotov]

Yep, and he's gonna use it to buy everyone on the show a new car!

[Smooth Groove]

I'd love to have a Livestrong bag of "supplements"

[Groogrux]

To be honest, the really sad part is that he's made a huge impact on the medical community through the "Livestrong" campaign, and now that is tainted as well.

[Don Flamenco]

sorry i got caught

[Smooth Groove]

sorry i got caught

Maybe not such a bad idea if he just says that

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/01/who-cares-if-lance-armstrong-confesses/267102/

You know what I'd like to hear from Armstrong? Honesty. I'd like to hear him say that he isn't truly sorry—that he's only truly sorry he got caught—because no one who truly regretted everything contained in USADA's voluminous report (and everything else that didn't make it) would have done all those things for so long in such a systemic, calculating, ruthless fashion. Nor would they have tweeted this. I'd like to hear him lambaste society's irrational, hypocritical, unhelpful moral panic regarding performance-enhancing drugs in sports compared to performance-enhancing drugs in every other walk of life. I'd like to hear him puncture the myth that great performers are—by the very dint of their hard-charging competitive success—great guys, heroes even, and that if it took a man winning bicycle races to galvanize us about cancer, then maybe smuggled bags of EPO aren't society's biggest problem.

[Joe Molotov]

If he's doing Oprah, then you know it's gonna be a mea culpa. That would be funny though if he came on there and just went nuts and started blasting society.

[Great Rumbler]

Well THANK GOD he apologized, otherwise I'd be pretty upset!

Really, though, it would be so great if he just came out and said "You know who says doping is bad? LOSERS. I'm not a loser, I'm a winner. I beat cancer and I won the Tour-de-France 7 times in a row. I doped because I care about just one thing: winning."

[Groogrux]

Even if he apologizes, he won't truly be sorry he did it, nor do I think he should.  If it's the standard in the sport, why not do what you need to to even the playing field?

Do I think he should be boastful about it though?  No.  Because he is still a rolemodel for many younger athletes and it would be terrible if he sent the wrong message to them.

[Steve Contra]

Lance Armstrong to admit cycling is boring? 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I hope he is convicted and will have to repay all the money he stole till hia dying days.

Hypocrite fraudster.

[Himu]

money he stole?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Sponsorships, deals, everything he made is based on lies.

Time to pay back. Maybe some prison time.

[Himu]

Lies? Did he get sponsorships for saying "I don't do drugs" or was he getting sponsors because goddamit, nicca can ride a bike?

The entire cycling sport had been uncovered as a doping circuit. I don't see why Lance should serve jail time when all of his peers did the same thing.

[Cerveza mas fina]

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[Himu]

http://www.hark.com/clips/kvbxkrygfh-dodgeball

So because the man did drugs that all of his peers did, that takes away from his accomplishments. Okay!

[Mandark]

We ever figure out why Lager's on the warpath about this?  I looked it up and couldn't find any Polish runners up for the Tour de France.

 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I dont know why people still defend this piece of shit.

Doesnt matter who else does it, lances whole image was based on him being a miracle boy.

[Flannel Boy]

Does Kos have a Baseball Hall of Fame ballot?

[Cerveza mas fina]

[Cerveza mas fina]

I hate all cycling dopers ruining such a great sport.

Smug fucker armstrong is just the worst one.

[Himu]

I dont know why people still defend this piece of shit.

Doesnt matter who else does it, lances whole image was based on him being a miracle boy.

I dunno. Coming out of brain, lung, and testicular cancer is kind of a miracle. At least around these parts.

[Mandark]

Well, like Barry Bonds and Ben Johnson, he was the best at his chosen sport, and took drugs to do better at a time when many or most of the people he beat were doing the same thing.

It's the prerogative of people running a competition to say what training methods and substances are kosher and if someone breaks those rules they run the risk of getting caught, punished, and banned.  But moral outrage?  Eh, I've only got so much and this seems like a lame way to spend it.

"But people looked up to him and he's a fraud!"  Yeah, people thought he was a hero because he was really good at riding a bicycle.  Only it turned out he was a guy who was really good at riding a bicycle who also used banned substances to make him better at riding a bicycle!  I'm sure Nike feels very cheated after all the merchandise they were able to move based on the only marketable American cyclist since Breaking Away.

[Mandark]

I dont know why people still defend this piece of shit.

Doesnt matter who else does it, lances whole image was based on him being a miracle boy.

I dunno. Coming out of brain, lung, and testicular cancer is kind of a miracle. At least around these parts.

Pfft, he probably used drugs to help him do that too.

[Himu]

I dont know why people still defend this piece of shit.

Doesnt matter who else does it, lances whole image was based on him being a miracle boy.

I dunno. Coming out of brain, lung, and testicular cancer is kind of a miracle. At least around these parts.

Pfft, he probably used drugs to help him do that too.

I bet he did chemotherapy. Phht, loser. I kill cancer cold turkey.

[Cerveza mas fina]

So just because he beat cancer he cannot be a dickhead cheater?

Great logic guys.

[Himu]

It's not cheating if every guy he's racing is doping too.

[Cerveza mas fina]

But they dont all use doping. See all those fuckers that fall of in the mountain stages.

Then again did anyone of you watch cycling before lance was big in the us? Rhetorical question.

people that ruin cycling

[Flannel Boy]

I hate all cycling dopers ruining such a great sport.

In  the journalist Albert Londres followed the Tour de France for the French newspaper, Le Petit Parisien. At Coutances he heard that the previous year's winner, Henri Pélissier, his brother Francis and a third rider, Maurice Ville, had resigned from the competition after an argument with the organiser, Henri Desgrange. Henri explained the problem—whether or not he had the right to take off a jersey—and went on to talk of drugs, reported in Londres' race diary, in which he invented the phrase Les Forçats de la Route (The Convicts of the Road):

    "You have no idea what the Tour de France is," Henri said. "It's a Calvary. Worse than that, because the road to the Cross has only 14 stations and ours has 15. We suffer from the start to the end. You want to know how we keep going? Here..." He pulled a phial from his bag. "That's cocaine, for our eyes. This is chloroform, for our gums."

    "This," Ville said, emptying his shoulder bag "is liniment to put warmth back into our knees."

    "And pills. Do you want to see pills? Have a look, here are the pills." Each pulled out three boxes.

    "The truth is," Francis said, "that we keep going on dynamite."

-1924

[Cormacaroni]

well we found the person who cares about cycling guys, we can tell Lance to call off the show now

[Himu]

But they dont all use doping. See all those fuckers that fall of in the mountain stages.

Then again did anyone of you watch cycling before lance was big in the us? Rhetorical question.

people that ruin cycling

I have never watched cycling.

I think...I think...I think I watched it ONCE...on the Olympics. Wait, wait, wait. It's coming.

No, I didn't.

[Steve Contra]

But they dont all use doping. See all those fuckers that fall of in the mountain stages.

Then again did anyone of you watch cycling before lance was big in the us? Rhetorical question.

people that ruin cycling

So you hate all cyclists since...forever?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Himu the climb to Mont Ventoux is something anyone who is remotely interested in sports should see.

[Mandark]

So just because he beat cancer he cannot be a dickhead cheater?

Great logic guys.

No, we're saying he can be a cheater and still not history's greatest monster.  Perspective, honkey.

[Flannel Boy]

Yeah, he's no Jimmy Carter.

[Mandark]

The flipside to the irrational Armstrong hate is the folks who for years derided the allegations as witch hunting.  In the early-mid 00's in the US most people who were aware of it at all treated it as a case of the French being jealous of an American champion (this was roughly around the Freedom Fries era), to the point where Leno could make jokes to that effect and expect everyone to be in on it.

Well, whoopsie.

[Steve Contra]

Plus he's cheating against cheters, and going along with a fine tradition of cheating.  Hell, professional cycling without doping is a historical aberration.

[Joe Molotov]

The flipside to the irrational Armstrong hate is the folks who for years derided the allegations as witch hunting.  In the early-mid 00's in the US most people who were aware of it at all treated it as a case of the French being jealous of an American champion (this was roughly around the Freedom Fries era), to the point where Leno could make jokes to that effect and expect everyone to be in on it.

Well, whoopsie.

Well, it still kinda was a witch hunt, it just turned out that he actually was a witch in the end. You know them dirty Frenchers were all praying to their French gods for him to be juicing, whether there was any proof or not.

[AdmiralViscen]

Lager would be happier if Armstrong had fucked a 13 year old in her ass

[TakingBackSunday]

Lager would be happier if Armstrong had fucked a 13 year old in her ass

[Steve Contra]

Lager would be happier if Armstrong had fucked a 13 year old in her ass

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[Groogrux]

Yeah, he's no Jimmy Carter.

[CajoleJuice]

Well I think Armstrong is a piece of shit for destroying people who told the truth about him. At least shit like that never happened with Bonds, Clemens, et al. Other than that, whatever.

[Smooth Groove]

What if Armstrong had no choice but to juice, like having his bike sucked into a vortex if he didn't take some PEDs?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Well I think Armstrong is a piece of shit for destroying people who told the truth about him. At least shit like that never happened with Bonds, Clemens, et al. Other than that, whatever.

Thats one of the reasons why I think he is the worst offender.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Lager would be happier if Armstrong had fucked a 13 year old in her ass

Your joke is as relevant as you as a poster.

2  3  4 years past the best by date.

[CajoleJuice]

Well I think Armstrong is a piece of shit for destroying people who told the truth about him. At least shit like that never happened with Bonds, Clemens, et al. Other than that, whatever.

Thats one of the reasons why I think he is the worst offender.

Legit reason. Dude is a sociopath.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I dont know why people still defend this piece of shit.

Doesnt matter who else does it, lances whole image was based on him being a miracle boy.

I dunno. Coming out of brain, lung, and testicular cancer is kind of a miracle. At least around these parts.

Pfft, he probably used drugs to help him do
that too.

[Don Flamenco]

sorry i got caught

Maybe not such a bad idea if he just says that

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/01/who-cares-if-lance-armstrong-confesses/267102/

You know what I'd like to hear from Armstrong? Honesty. I'd like to hear him say that he isn't truly sorry—that he's only truly sorry he got caught—because no one who truly regretted everything contained in USADA's voluminous report (and everything else that didn't make it) would have done all those things for so long in such a systemic, calculating, ruthless fashion. Nor would they have tweeted this. I'd like to hear him lambaste society's irrational, hypocritical, unhelpful moral panic regarding performance-enhancing drugs in sports compared to performance-enhancing drugs in every other walk of life. I'd like to hear him puncture the myth that great performers are—by the very dint of their hard-charging competitive success—great guys, heroes even, and that if it took a man winning bicycle races to galvanize us about cancer, then maybe smuggled bags of EPO aren't society's biggest problem.

put that way, I'd love that instead of the usual "I take all the blame and truly regret it and blah blah blah."   He doesn't have a lot to lose, go for the gold....

[Eel O'Brian]

"And if I might point out, ladies and gentlemen, one of our country's greatest heroes also used drugs to enhance his performance against the axis forces of evil during WWII."

[brob]

tried to watch tour de france once. hella boring, most of the time the commentators were talking about local history of where ever the fuck they were bicycling through at the time.

though I suppose that's something bicycling has over cross-country skiing which I'm forced to endure every god damned winter for the sake of having something resembling a social life.

[Steve Contra]

europeans like the dumbest fucking "sports", I swear

:thumbsup

[Yeti]

"And if I might point out, ladies and gentlemen, one of our country's greatest heroes also used drugs to enhance his performance against the axis forces of evil during WWII."

(Image removed from quote.)

Yeah but he never lied about it.