US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[Human Snorenado]

Someone has testified that the military called off the rescue mission, but there are also reports that it's unlikely they would have arrived in time; instead they might have just further escalated the violence. Everything else is FUD. No, Obama didn't casually watch them all die on some HD feed while chuckling to himself. I agree the WH has bungled this thing and hasn't had their story straight, but you get into dangerous territory when you accuse the president/government of willingly letting soldiers die, and watching it unfold live. It's a disgusting allegation that I'd expect to be coming from the gutter of the far right, not mainstream republicans.

No difference anymore, you should know that after your votes in MI for Republicans

[Steve Contra]

I propose another Bore deadpool, but instead of WiiU's failures, we bet on when the impeachment vote over Benghazi will take place.

[Joe Molotov]

I propose another Bore deadpool, but instead of WiiU's failures, we bet on when the impeachment vote over Benghazi will take place.

I think they'll wait until after the 2014 elections to see if they can regain the Senate, and then if they do, they'll double-impeach him for Benghazi and for crashing the stock market.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm surprised the House doesn't impeach the president monthly, the same way they outlaw Obamacare monthly.

[Great Rumbler]

The Heritage Foundation is disavowing past recommendations regarding race, IQ, and immigration from Jason Richwine, the co-author of a recent study by the group claiming undocumented immigrants would add $6.3 trillion to the deficit if granted legal status.

“This is not a work product of The Heritage Foundation. Its findings in no way reflect the positions of The Heritage Foundation," Mike Gonzales, vice president of communications at Heritage, said in a statement. "Nor do the findings affect the conclusions of our study on the cost of amnesty to the U.S. taxpayer.”

Richwine argued in a 2009 paper that immigrants should be barred based on low IQ, which he claimed would have the effect of keeping out many Hispanics in particular, who may have a "genetic" predilection towards lower intelligence.

“No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against," Richwine wrote.

LOL

[Steve Contra]

The Heritage Foundation is disavowing past recommendations regarding race, IQ, and immigration from Jason Richwine, the co-author of a recent study by the group claiming undocumented immigrants would add $6.3 trillion to the deficit if granted legal status.

“This is not a work product of The Heritage Foundation. Its findings in no way reflect the positions of The Heritage Foundation," Mike Gonzales, vice president of communications at Heritage, said in a statement. "Nor do the findings affect the conclusions of our study on the cost of amnesty to the U.S. taxpayer.”

Richwine argued in a 2009 paper that immigrants should be barred based on low IQ, which he claimed would have the effect of keeping out many Hispanics in particular, who may have a "genetic" predilection towards lower intelligence.

“No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against," Richwine wrote.

LOL

If we're doing IQ tests for citizenship, that means "sorry Kentucky"

[Phoenix Dark]

Almost too good to be true. 

If this bill doesn't pass, despite wide republican support in the senate...lol. Republicans can trot out Rubio all they want but ultimately their base is still the same southern, far right idiots.

btw I actually will give dap to Rubio. He's busting his ass, and putting it on the line, to get this passed.

[Joe Molotov]

Hispanics are too dumb to be citizens, Keynes was too gay to be an economist, and guns are too awesome to regulate. Just another week in Murrica. 

[Human Snorenado]

Hispanics are too dumb to be citizens, Keynes was too gay to be an economist, and guns are too awesome to regulate. Just another week in Murrica. 

You left out "Al Gore is too fat for global climate change to be a thing"

[AdmiralViscen]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/05/07/mark-sanford-wins-south-carolina-special-election/

This is a must watch, especially the second half

[Great Rumbler]

New legislation sponsored by Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), Thomas Massie (R-KY), Anna Eshoo (D-CA), and Jared Polis (D-CO) takes a broader approach to the issue. In addition to explicitly legalizing cell phone unlocking, the Unlocking Technology Act of 2013 also modifies the DMCA to make clear that unlocking copy-protected content is only illegal if it's done in order to "facilitate the infringement of a copyright." If a circumvention technology is "primarily designed or produced for the purpose of facilitating noninfringing uses," that would not be a violation of copyright.

For example, Lofgren's bill would likely make it legal for consumers to rip DVDs for personal use in much the same way they've long ripped CDs. It would remove legal impediments to making versions of copyrighted works that are accessible to blind users. And it would ensure that car owners have the freedom to service their vehicles without running afoul of copyright law.

Congress doing something mildly worthwhile? No way!

[Eric P]

great

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/10/us/politics/ap-us-irs-political-groups.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service inappropriately flagged conservative political groups for additional reviews during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status, a top IRS official said Friday.

Organizations were singled out because they included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status, said Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt groups.

[Joe Molotov]

I wonder if they could be inappropriately flagged for a drone strike?

[Human Snorenado]

Looks like John McCain finally got around to watching that newfangled cable box this week

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-wants-to-blow-up-the-cable-industry-as-we-currently-know-it-2013-5

[Phoenix Dark]

I give McCain dap; too bad the bill will die though. If I could just get ESPN, AMC, and TNT I'd do it in a heart beat. I don't have cable because I don't watch enough TV to justify the purchase; I tend to watch most shit online.

[Great Rumbler]

I'd dump so many channels from my cable package in a heartbeat. Actually, I hardly even watch any cable channels at all, outside of The Science Channel and occasionally whichever channel is showing a Mavericks/Rangers/Cowboys game. Most of my TV watching these days comes through Crunchyroll and Netflix.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'd hang on to HBO, FX, ESPN, Comedy Central, IFC, Food Network, HGTV, CNN (for Bourdain), MSNBC, AMC, BBC America, Cooking Channel, NFL Network, MLB Network and Root Sports NW.

[Dickie Dee]

http://thomasfriedmanopedgenerator.com/

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/surprise-winner-in-thomas-friedman-porn-title-contest-20130510

[Mandark]

I give McCain dap; too bad the bill will die though. If I could just get ESPN, AMC, and TNT I'd do it in a heart beat. I don't have cable because I don't watch enough TV to justify the purchase; I tend to watch most shit online.

You'd sign up for BBC America, and then sue them for false advertising.

[Oblivion]

Glenn Greenwald is a Benghazi truther? The fuck?

[AdmiralViscen]

My facebook indicates that we are now scrutinizing talking points from TV interviews

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/

This is now worse than Watergate, where no one died.

It's almost like we didn't have our actual Secretary of State go before the UN to talk about WMDs in Iraq in the last few years.

[Phoenix Dark]

Glenn Greenwald is a Benghazi truther? The fuck?

No he's not. He has simply argued the government lied about why the attack occurred, which is true. The extremist view is that Obama let Stevens die because sending troops would prove that the war on terror hasn't been won - a ridiculous charge to any sane person.

I'm honestly more apt to believe Glen Beck than the other crazy people on this. We know the embassy was a CIA front, and I don't think it's outrageous to suggest an arms deal was going down, someone leaked info, and it got hit.

Ultimately this is mainly about spreading FUD and pre-emptively smearing Hillary before 2016. I'm not giving the administration a pass for lying but in the grand scheme of things the lie didn't really have an impact on anything. It's not like they, you know, lied to get is into a war that killed millions of people.

[Positive Touch]

glenn greenwald is a fucking dingus whos only a few more outrages away from becoming a libertarian conspiracy theorist. he used to go on rants about holding people accountable; slowly he morphed into someone whos always out to find what the government (along with the media) are hiding from us to take us over. whatever truth there might be in what hes saying or what issue hes looking at is overshadowed by his obsessive black-or-white with-us-or-against-us mentality.

[Joe Molotov]

My facebook indicates that we are now scrutinizing talking points from TV interviews

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/exclusive-benghazi-talking-points-underwent-12-revisions-scrubbed-of-terror-references/

This is now worse than Watergate, where no one died.

It's almost like we didn't have our actual Secretary of State go before the UN to talk about WMDs in Iraq in the last few years.

I believe the official report is that it's worse than (Watergate + Iran-Contra) x 10

[Great Rumbler]

It's amazing, really. Virtually everything that the Republicans and right wing media are trying, and failing, to pin on Obama are the same sorts of things that were ACTUALLY committed by Bush Jr. and his bunch. But was there any outrage from these guys back then? Of course not, they were too busy vehemently denying even the faintest whiff of wrongdoing and attacking anybody that said a bad word about the President.

[DCharlieJP]

The modern right wing patriot : agreeing with a dem president is treason, disagreeing with a Rep president is treason.

Reading the Impeach twitters is something i'd previously get annoyed with but now? Its the predictable act of a completely troubled party - they have nothing to offer but obstruction and noisy fud spreading. Ultimately this is going to back fire and ensure that the right remains in opposition for an age (which is ultimately bad for everyone).

[Oblivion]

Glenn Greenwald is a Benghazi truther? The fuck?

No he's not. He has simply argued the government lied about why the attack occurred, which is true. The extremist view is that Obama let Stevens die because sending troops would prove that the war on terror hasn't been won - a ridiculous charge to any sane person.

I'm honestly more apt to believe Glen Beck than the other crazy people on this. We know the embassy was a CIA front, and I don't think it's outrageous to suggest an arms deal was going down, someone leaked info, and it got hit.

Ultimately this is mainly about spreading FUD and pre-emptively smearing Hillary before 2016. I'm not giving the administration a pass for lying but in the grand scheme of things the lie didn't really have an impact on anything. It's not like they, you know, lied to get is into a war that killed millions of people.

Why'd you get banned, yo?

[Phoenix Dark]

Glenn Greenwald is a Benghazi truther? The fuck?

No he's not. He has simply argued the government lied about why the attack occurred, which is true. The extremist view is that Obama let Stevens die because sending troops would prove that the war on terror hasn't been won - a ridiculous charge to any sane person.

I'm honestly more apt to believe Glen Beck than the other crazy people on this. We know the embassy was a CIA front, and I don't think it's outrageous to suggest an arms deal was going down, someone leaked info, and it got hit.

Ultimately this is mainly about spreading FUD and pre-emptively smearing Hillary before 2016. I'm not giving the administration a pass for lying but in the grand scheme of things the lie didn't really have an impact on anything. It's not like they, you know, lied to get is into a war that killed millions of people.

Why'd you get banned, yo?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=57440756&postcount=13350

It's a long running gaf-hop joke about dark skin v light skin, Blackace doesn't appreciate it. 

[DCharlieJP]

Shooting in New Orleans - right wing response hilariously predictable.

[Great Rumbler]

great

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/10/us/politics/ap-us-irs-political-groups.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service inappropriately flagged conservative political groups for additional reviews during the 2012 election to see if they were violating their tax-exempt status, a top IRS official said Friday.

Organizations were singled out because they included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status, said Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS division that oversees tax-exempt groups.

Surprise, surprise. The more that comes out about this, the more it becomes clear this is:

[Joe Molotov]

I heard on the news this morning that conservatives are calling on Obama to personally take responsibility and apologize for IRSgate and that it was worse than Benghazi plus Fast and Furious times 10.

Last part may have been imagined.

[Eric P]

it's hilarious because apparently this is being hailed as "NIXON BACK" by the right.

[DCharlieJP]

Impeach based on fact there was a false flag op in New Orleans no wait, changed our mind... it was a terrorist attack... IMPEACH!

lol - funniest idiot so far : "Impeach McCain for not backing Obama Impeachment"

[Brehvolution]

It just isn't a mothers day without talking about communism at the dinner table. 

[Broseidon]

deets

[Brehvolution]

"Obama is a communist liar."
"Pass the shrimp"

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2013/05/12/and-the-things-that-we-fear-are-a-weapon-to-be-held-against-us/

Pretty well eviscerates the right's IRS freak out.

[Phoenix Dark]

The weird thing is that mainstream journalists are jumping on board all this shit. Joe Klein and others are casually throwing around the Nixon comparison, missing the obvious difference: Nixon was directly involved in his crimes and gave the green light; apparently this IRS shit never reached the White House and the guy involved blew the whistle immediately. And of course the only connection Obama has with Benghazi is not sending troops after the attack had already occurred. So where's the conspiracy?

Without the president you don't have a scandal bigger than Watergate, period.

[Mupepe]

Fox News was on at the gym this morning.  Several correspondents were all in agreement that Obama coming out so strongly against the IRS is an indicator that there is a Benghazi cover up.  "How come he isn't calling for the same type of investigation and condeming Benghazi-Gate the same way???"

[Brehvolution]

Only 50 more ambassadors need to die for Obama to be tied with W.

[Steve Contra]

The IRS thing is going to get traction like Benghazi never could have.  Benghazi is just confusing to most people, and the Republicanbs haven't been able to tell people why they should be mad about it.

[Phoenix Dark]

yea the IRS thing is actually news. Even if the WH had no involvement, and the guy who found out about it stopped it immediately...it's still going to be an actual story of interest.

Of course, I don't remember anyone talking about the Bush administration auditing the NAACP, anti-war churches, etc. 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

"Obama is a communist liar."
"Pass the shrimp"

I just visited one of my black friends and he says he voted for Mitt Romney and would do it again.  I was kind of shocked but he is from the "fuck you, got mine" mentality so I guess it makes sense.

[Great Rumbler]

"Hey, remember all that horrible stuff Bush Jr. and company did and got away with? Nope, but Obama did just spit on the sidewalk! Worst President ever!"

[Great Rumbler]

[Phoenix Dark]

You can just tell that for Obama it's a full time job not to snap on dumb shit. One day he's going to lose his cool

[DCharlieJP]

some of the logic is starting to make my head spin ....

Obama Administration uses Patroit Act powers to find who leaked damaging information that would possibly endanger US activities - IMPEACH!

It's just crazy town now - IMPEACH for not preventing the deaths of 4 americans, IMPEACH for trying to prevent deaths of Americans by tightening gun laws, IMPEACH for using Bush mandated powers, IMPEACH for stock market collapse despite it being at record high, IMPEACH for not defending marriage, IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH.

The funny thing is - this is putting the right further and further away from office. The idea that this is somehow going to bring down Clinton and will somehow appeal to swing voters? I guess they aren't getting the message that swing voters already seem to think they are loons. I guess that's why they want more God up in this shit and less abortions/condoms so hopefully the pigshit-thick support base keeps multiplying so they end up with a massive uninformed userbase they can tread all over whilst pointing at Obama/Gays/Islam/Immigrants as their source of woe forever.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yup. Barring some economic meltdown or a real scandal, I can't possibly imagine republicans re-gaining power in three years. And if Hillary runs you might as well hand her the keys, it'll be over. So the far right will just fester and fester until it gets completely out of control

[Steve Contra]

I don't even see the big deal about the IRS thing anyway. What if "tea party" or "patriot" organizations were statistically more likely to be violating their non-profit status requirements? Enforcement agencies don't have the resources to police the entire country, and they have to concentrate their efforts somewhere.

You don't see how a government entity using their power to possibly influence how specific political groups operate is possibly a bad thing in a democracy?

[Steve Contra]

That's why I said "possibly".  They were obviously targeting specific groups based on politics and that in itself is a bad thing if left unchecked.  Heads are going to roll for this, and for good reason.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

What....the...fuck....?

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/us/justice-ap-phones/index.html?c=homepage-t

And you people still trust this president?

It's just like Star Wars...Pseudo educated idiots applauding the loss of their own freedom. Nice work guys

[Am_I_Anonymous]

I also applaud you for eliminating the good old fashion "get it done attitude" and replacing it with feigned highbrow response of talking circles around the issue until you end up throwing my money at it.

Kudos guys...now back to the standard toe sucking of the wannabe dictator..

[Great Rumbler]

What....the...fuck....?

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/us/justice-ap-phones/index.html?c=homepage-t

And you people still trust this president?

It's just like Star Wars...Pseudo educated idiots applauding the loss of their own freedom. Nice work guys

Welcome to 1979, bro.

[Steve Contra]

Who invited my republican aunt in here

I bet it was Joe

[Am_I_Anonymous]

What....the...fuck....?

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/us/justice-ap-phones/index.html?c=homepage-t

And you people still trust this president?

It's just like Star Wars...Pseudo educated idiots applauding the loss of their own freedom. Nice work guys

Welcome to 1979, bro.

well that makes it better...phew.

[Mandark]

It's just like Star Wars...Pseudo educated idiots applauding the loss of their own freedom. Nice work guys

Thanks for explaining American politics by comparing it to a hamhanded allegory for American politics.  It all makes sense now!

[TakingBackSunday]

FoC sighting?!?!

[Am_I_Anonymous]

It's just like Star Wars...Pseudo educated idiots applauding the loss of their own freedom. Nice work guys

Thanks for explaining American politics by comparing it to a hamhanded allegory for American politics.  It all makes sense now!

Way to display some witty sarcasm and not discuss the issue, Mrs Clinton.

[Great Rumbler]

What....the...fuck....?

 http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/us/justice-ap-phones/index.html?c=homepage-t

And you people still trust this president?

It's just like Star Wars...Pseudo educated idiots applauding the loss of their own freedom. Nice work guys

Welcome to 1979, bro.

well that makes it better...phew.

You're welcome.

[Steve Contra]

Also who was pseudo-educated in Star Wars?  Was their liberal arts education discussed?