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Re: BUNDYGATE and LAND MANAGMENTGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #4680 on: April 27, 2014, 06:26:49 PM »
I think he's doing them a favor. When the network actually owns the fact that they're biased, they need to show they got someone to call out their bullshit.

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« Reply #4681 on: April 27, 2014, 08:06:02 PM »
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/04/the-obama-holder-clemency-program-subverts-the-law-and-promotes-crime.php
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One can sympathize with criminals who meet all of these criteria. But only leftists and some libertarians view criminal sentencing issues primarily from the criminal’s perspective. Society’s interests must also be given strong consideration. As Bill Otis says, individuals and communities victimized by the drug trade should be the focus of our concern, not the criminals who do the victimizing.

It is here, I think, that the substantive case for clemency breaks down. According to the Justice Department’s own study cited by Bill Otis, 77 percent of drug offenders will return to crime after their release. Thus, to release them prematurely from legally imposed sentences is virtually to guarantee more crime more quickly.

Do the clemency program’s criteria reduce the odds of recidivism? Perhaps. But a criminal with no history of violence, no known ties to gangs, and a record of okay conduct in prison still presents a risk of committing drug offenses (which are non-violent and not necessarily gang related) upon release. Absent empirical evidence that the risk is insubstantial, society’s interest is in requiring these felons to serve out their terms.

Society’s interest must, of course, be balanced by considerations of fairness. But Congress performed that balancing when it set the sentences in question and later declined to make new, lighter sentences retroactive.

In the end, therefore, we can say this about the Obama-Holder clemency program: it subverts the law by imposing by decree a measure Congress refused to pass under the Constitution’s legislative process; it will promote crime; and it does these things in order to obtain political advantage for Democrats.

To most of us, this is a travesty. To President Obama and Attorney General Holder, it’s a good day’s work.
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« Reply #4682 on: April 28, 2014, 12:46:52 PM »
Just in case you forgot that Sarah Palin is a gigantic pile of human excrement:

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) says she wouldn't be afraid to torture terrorists if she were president.

"C'mon! Enemies who would utterly annihilate America, they would obviously have information on plots. They carry out jihad. Oh, but you can’t offend them. Can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen," Palin said on Saturday during a speech at the National Rifle Association's "Stand And Fight" rally. "Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists."

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« Reply #4683 on: April 28, 2014, 12:54:18 PM »
That's part of the reason you aren't in charge, Sarah.
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« Reply #4684 on: April 28, 2014, 03:13:05 PM »
And did Lewis just outright admit that Hannity and conservative media hoped that Bundy would get killed and become a martyr like with Ruby Ridge and Waco?

That was pretty ballsy. As that was the unspoken undercurrent to most of the rightwing news coverage. Hoping they'd see See Obamas 'federal Thugs' having a shootout with 'patriots' while woman and children were mown down.

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« Reply #4685 on: April 28, 2014, 04:43:00 PM »
Equating baptism with torture sounds christian-like. :hitler
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« Reply #4686 on: April 28, 2014, 07:53:12 PM »
Morality aside that's actually a pretty good line.  :lol

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« Reply #4687 on: April 29, 2014, 02:05:33 AM »
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Friday from Organizing for Action, the political group formerly known as the Obama campaign. It's signed by Ivan Frishberg, OFA's "climate change campaign manager":
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I have great news in the fight against climate change:

Just today, we removed a member of Congress from our list of climate change deniers--Rep. Michael Grimm (NY-11) announced that he agrees with the scientific consensus behind climate change.

That's huge--it's the biggest sign yet that the conversation around climate is changing. That's exactly why we've been organizing to make sure that climate change deniers feel the pressure from their constituents.

It's time to turn up the heat--add your name to join the fight against climate change deniers in Congress.
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« Reply #4688 on: April 29, 2014, 07:53:11 AM »
http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-pros-and-cons-of-gun-control,35887
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While anti-violence activists continue to push for stricter gun laws including an all-out ban on assault weapons, gun advocates have dug in their heels, arguing that banning firearms and concealed carry violates people’s rights. Here are arguments for and against gun control:

PROS OF GUN CONTROL:
Advances the NRA’s mission of responsibility with firearms
Cold, dead hands free to hold other things
Mailroom guy just stormed off after getting fired
Guns are so loud!
Nerds, freaks, and weirdos could once again be put in their place without fear of reprisal
Still hundreds of other ways to murder people out there
Family not worth defending

CONS OF GUN CONTROL:
Ugh, already bought so many guns
Leaves citizens defenseless against government with world’s largest military, vast stockpile of nuclear weapons
Shopping for wedding gift suddenly even harder
Already hollowed out Bible
Nothing to spin around finger when bored
May encounter some resistance
Bang! Bang! Bang! Woohoo!

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« Reply #4689 on: April 29, 2014, 01:21:53 PM »
Hinderaker concluded: "It is telling that this domestic upheaval between an aging billionaire and his gold-digging, disloyal mistress represents the best the Left can come up with to support its claim that racism and the “legacy of race and slavery and segregation” are alive and well. As for Sterling, he is merely collateral damage. That Lifetime Achievement award was almost in his grasp, when he became more useful to the Left as a villain. Something tells me, however, that Stiviano will land on her feet."

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« Reply #4690 on: April 29, 2014, 02:26:55 PM »
Whatever happened to loyalty among adulterers? :usacry

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« Reply #4691 on: April 29, 2014, 02:31:24 PM »
Whatever happened to loyalty among adulterers? :usacry

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At least Reggie Love will never tell.  :whew
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« Reply #4692 on: April 29, 2014, 05:58:13 PM »
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Congressman: Bundy Militia Has Set Up Road 'Checkpoints' In Nevada

A Democratic congressman from Nevada said in a letter this week that his constituents have reported the armed militia supporting rancher Cliven Bundy have set up checkpoints to verify the residency of anybody passing through.

Rep. Steven Horsford (D-NV), who represents the area, sent the letter Sunday to Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie, asking him to investigate.

"I am writing to bring your attention to the ongoing situation in northeastern Clark County which has caused many of my constituents to fear for their safety," Horsford wrote. Residents in the area "have expressed concern over the continual presence of multiple out-of-state, armed militia groups that have remained in the community" since Bundy's dispute with the Bureau of Land Management came to a boil.

The militia, as reported by Horsford's constituents, "have set up checkpoints where residents are required to prove they live in the area before being allowed to pass," the letter said.

They have also maintained a presence, sometimes armed, along highways and roads, as well as community sites like churches and schools, the letter asserted.

Journalists on the scene at the height of the Bundy Ranch standoff estimated as many as 1,000 protesters had gathered earlier this month.

Horsford Letter
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bundy-ranch-militia-checkpoints-horsford

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« Reply #4693 on: April 29, 2014, 06:07:30 PM »
 :heh
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« Reply #4694 on: April 29, 2014, 07:38:57 PM »
I LEARNED IT FROM YOU DAD


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« Reply #4695 on: April 29, 2014, 08:22:30 PM »
When those whackadoodles start providing essential services, they can start asking me where I live. Until then, eat a bag of dicks.
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« Reply #4696 on: April 29, 2014, 09:58:05 PM »
When those whackadoodles start providing essential services, they can start asking me where I live. Until then, eat a bag of dicks.

They're offering you a protection service. As in "that's a nice car you got there, be a shame if something happened to it" protection.
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« Reply #4697 on: April 29, 2014, 10:03:56 PM »
So, this happened in Oklahoma today:

McALESTER, Okla. (AP) — An Oklahoma inmate whose execution was halted Tuesday because the delivery of a new drug combination was botched died of a heart attack, the head of the state Department of Corrections said.

Director Robert Patton said inmate Clayton Lockett (pictured, left) died Tuesday after all three drugs were administered.

Patton halted Lockett's execution about 20 minutes after the first drug was administered. He said there was a vein failure.

The execution began at 6:23 p.m. when officials began administering the first drug, and a doctor declared Lockett to be unconscious at 6:33 p.m.

About three minutes later, though, Lockett began breathing heavily, writhing on the gurney, clenching his teeth and straining to lift his head off the pillow. After about three minutes, a doctor lifted the sheet that was covering Lockett to examine the injection site. After that, an official who was inside the death chamber lowered the blinds, preventing those in the viewing room from seeing what was happening.

Patton then made a series of phone calls before calling a halt to the execution. He also issued a 14-day postponement in the execution of inmate Charles Warner, who had been scheduled to die on Tuesday, two hours after Lockett was put to death.

"It was extremely difficult to watch," Lockett's attorney, David Autry, said afterward. He also questioned the amount of the sedative midazolam that was given to Lockett, saying he thought it was "an overdose quantity." It was the first time Oklahoma administered midazolam as the first drug in its execution drug combination.

A four-time felon, Lockett, 38, was convicted of shooting 19-year-old Stephanie Neiman with a sawed-off shotgun and watching as two accomplices buried her alive in rural Kay County in 1999 after Neiman and a friend arrived at a home the men were robbing.

Warner had been scheduled to be put to death two hours later in the same room and on the same gurney. The 46-year-old was convicted of raping and killing his roommate's 11-month-old daughter in 1997. He has maintained his innocence.

Lockett and Warner had sued the state for refusing to disclose details about the execution drugs, including where Oklahoma obtained them.

The case, filed as a civil matter, placed Oklahoma's two highest courts at odds and prompted calls for the impeachment of state Supreme Court justices after the court last week issued a rare stay of execution. The high court later dissolved its stay and dismissed the inmates' claim that they were entitled to know the source of the drugs.

By then, Gov. Mary Fallin had weighed into the matter by issuing a stay of execution of her own — a one-week delay in Lockett's execution that resulted in both men being scheduled to die on the same day.
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« Reply #4698 on: April 29, 2014, 10:13:13 PM »
When those whackadoodles start providing essential services, they can start asking me where I live. Until then, eat a bag of dicks.
What if they just send a bill.  :teehee

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« Reply #4699 on: April 29, 2014, 10:19:11 PM »
So, why not just use a single dose of whatever?

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« Reply #4700 on: April 29, 2014, 10:21:08 PM »
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Officials in Oklahoma and other states have resorted to these methods because they can no longer access sodium thiopental, the anesthetic traditionally used in lethal injections, and another drug used to paralyze the condemned. The lone US manufacturer quit producing sodium thiopental in 2011, and international suppliers—​​particulalry in the European Union, which opposes the death penalty on humanitarian grounds—​​have stopped exporting both drugs to the United States. This has left states like Oklahoma scrambling to find new pharmaceuticals for killing death row inmates. Some have been reduced to illegally importing the drugs, using untested combinations, or buying from unregulated compounding pharmacies, a number of which have a history of producing contaminated products.

Death row inmates and their lawyers have protested on the grounds that these untested protocols could produce a level of suffering that violates the Eighth Amendment prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment, and they've sued for more information about the source and purity of the drugs. In response, several states have passed secrecy laws, allowing them to keep the names of their suppliers, and in some cases the contents of the lethal injection, under wraps. (Oklahoma is so eager to hide the source of its death drugs that it buys them with petty cash so there are no transaction records.) Death row inmates, in turn, have filed suits challenging the constitutionality of these secrecy statutes.
Via APKmetsfan on GAF: http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/04/double-execution-tonight-ok-using-secret-experimental-drug-protocol

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« Reply #4701 on: April 29, 2014, 10:25:10 PM »
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Oklahoma is so eager to hide the source of its death drugs that it buys them with petty cash so there are no transaction records.

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« Reply #4702 on: April 29, 2014, 10:27:31 PM »
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Oklahoma is so eager to hide the source of its death drugs that it buys them with petty cash so there are no transaction records.

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« Reply #4703 on: April 29, 2014, 10:51:11 PM »
SMOKING GUN:
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Previously unreleased internal Obama administration emails show that a coordinated effort was made in the days following the Benghazi terror attacks to portray the incident as “rooted in [an] Internet video, and not [in] a broader failure or policy.”

Emails sent by senior White House adviser Ben Rhodes to other top administration officials reveal an effort to insulate President Barack Obama from the attacks that killed four Americans.

Rhodes sent this email to top White House officials such as David Plouffe and Jay Carney just a day before National Security Adviser Susan Rice made her infamous Sunday news show appearances to discuss the attack.

The “goal,” according to these emails, was “to underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/benghazi-emails-show-white-house-effort-to-protect-obama/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/29/benghazi-emails-suggest-white-house-aide-involved-in-prepping-rice-for-video/

WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?!?

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« Reply #4704 on: April 30, 2014, 12:41:31 AM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070.html
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The darkest secret in the big money world of the Republican coastal elite is that the most palatable alternative to a nominee such as Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas or Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky would be Clinton, a familiar face on Wall Street following her tenure as a New York senator with relatively moderate views on taxation and financial regulation.

“If it turns out to be Jeb versus Hillary we would love that and either outcome would be fine,” one top Republican-leaning Wall Street lawyer said over lunch in midtown Manhattan last week. “We could live with either one. Jeb versus Joe Biden would also be fine. It’s Rand Paul or Ted Cruz versus someone like Elizabeth Warren that would be everybody’s worst nightmare.”

Most top GOP fundraisers and donors on Wall Street won’t say this kind of thing on the record for fear of heavy blowback from party officials, as well as supporters of Cruz and Rand Paul. Few want to acknowledge publicly that the Democratic front-runner fills them with less dread than some Republican 2016 hopefuls. And, to be sure, none of the Republican-leaning financial executives are so far suggesting they’d openly back her.

But the private consensus is similar to what Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein said to POLITICO late last year when he praised both Christie — before the bridge scandal — and Clinton. “I very much was supportive of Hillary Clinton the last go-round,” he said. “I held fundraisers for her.”

People close to Blankfein say the same calculus applies to a Jeb Bush-Hillary Clinton race as it would to a Christie-Clinton contest. “Those would be two very good choices and we’d be perfectly happy with them,” a person close to Blankfein said. Blankfein is a self-described Democrat, but his comments about Christie and Clinton reflect the ambidextrous political approach that many Republicans and Democrats on Wall Street take.

There are, of course, other GOP candidates who could emerge as favorites of the financial industry after making their case over the next few months.

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Clinton, after all, was New York’s senator for eight years, where the financial district was a key constituency. She had many Wall Street rainmakers as advisers and friends. Her family has continued to work that network to try to stock the Clinton Foundation with a $250 million endowment before a presidential run. And she’s been out on the financial services speaking circuit, giving talks to Goldman Sachs and fireside-style chats with the heads of the Carlyle Group and the investment firm KKR.

Clinton warmed some hearts on Wall Street during a paid, closed-press speech to Goldman Sachs executives and other big donors last year when she said of the financial crisis, in essence: We all got into this mess together, and we’re all going to have to work together to get out of it. That line, as the people on hand interpreted her speech, reflects the feelings of many financiers. They know they played a role in the 2008 financial collapse but argue that many other factors did as well, including federal housing policy and irresponsible borrowers lying on mortgage documents. Wall Street sees in Clinton someone who would not look to score easy political points at its expense.

...

Ted Cruz, whose wife works at Goldman Sachs, is viewed negatively by many in the industry for his support of last year’s government shutdown and scorched earth approach to political battle. Cruz fired up an activist gathering in New Hampshire earlier this month with the kind of provocative populist message that makes bankers very nervous. “The rich and powerful, those who walk the corridors of power, are getting fat and happy,” Cruz thundered. At the same event, Paul argued that the GOP “cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people and Wall Street.”

...

And if none of the sitting governors or a Wall Street-friendly candidate like Ryan can wrest the nomination from the likes of a Paul or a Cruz?

“In that situation,” one Wall Street executive said, “then Hillary seems relatively tolerable.”

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« Reply #4705 on: April 30, 2014, 12:43:41 AM »
WHY DID HE SAY IT WAS AN ACT TERROR INSTEAD OF TERRORIST ACT?!?!?!
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« Reply #4706 on: April 30, 2014, 11:22:25 AM »
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First off, Stewart Rhodes, the head of one militia contingent, the Oath Keepers, said on Friday that he’d gotten “intel” from a highly placed source that Eric Holder and the Department of Justice were going to launch a “hot drone strike” on the Bundy Ranch, because that makes perfect sense. And while Rhodes suspected that the leak may have been deliberate disinformation designed to make the militia heroes look delusional, or more delusional, he also decided, as a precaution, to “evacuate all of his Oath Keepers that have been stationed” at the Bundy Ranch, for, like, security and stuff. This decision did not sit well with “Booda Bear,” the “head of security” for the Bundy Ranch. (Who made him “head of security”? We have no earthly idea; we get the impression it may be a self-appointed position, but who knows?)

In a YouTube interview with some super-patriot named Blaine Cooper, who asked Mr. Bear for a “sitrep.” That is SO AUTHENTICALLY MILITARY and COOL! The sitrep was that Booda Bear was not especially impressed by Rhodes’s “high value intelligence” — which turns out to have come from an anonymous tip line. Bear also emphasized that such defections are bad for the tactical situation, since “this is a battle front in some sense of the word and to remove them is kind of ah — that’s some yellow cur — ya know, spineless backbone, piece of shit maneuvering right there.”…

And so, since the Oath Keepers chickened out (in another very important video, the Booda Bear Loyalists take a vote and agree that it was “desertion” — swear to god, it is like watching goddamn Teddy Roosevelt and the fucking Rough Riders storm Omaha Beach during the Battle of Bunker Hill here, tell you what), Mr. Booda Bear proclaimed that since he and his guys “sleep in the dirt out here, we’re on shifts for 14hours a day and trying to make sure that this family [the Bundys] stays safe and secure,” there were going to have to be some changes made…

"and just so everybody knows, as Booda, head of security for the Bundy Family I can swear on the white skin that covers my ass there will not be an Oath Keeper — there WILL NOT BE AN OATH KEEPER allowed to set foot on the internal ranch property"

Oh my! This is the most exciting nonevent to ever not happen in the history of the country!
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« Reply #4707 on: April 30, 2014, 11:30:32 AM »
I'm sure all these dudes have jobs, and are just taking infinite time off to defend our country.
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« Reply #4708 on: April 30, 2014, 12:40:10 PM »
"Booda Bear" :neogaf
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« Reply #4709 on: April 30, 2014, 12:55:07 PM »
Senate Dems actually doing something worthwhile? No way! But it's true:

The Senate will vote in 2014 on a constitutional amendment to undo Supreme Court rulings in recent years which invalidated campaign finance limits, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said Wednesday.

The No. 3 Democratic senator made the announcement during a Senate Rules Committee hearing, saying his majority would hold a vote on Sen. Tom Udall's (D-NM) proposal, which would reverse decisions like Citizens United and McCutcheon and restore Congress's authority to set campaign finance limits.

"The Supreme Court is trying to take this country back to the days of the robber barons, allowing dark money to flood our elections," Schumer said. "That needs to stop, and it needs to stop now. The only way to undo the damage the court has done is to pass Senator Udall's amendment to the Constitution, and Senate Democrats are going to try to do that. Before the year is out, we're going to bring it up on the Senate floor for a vote, where we hope Republicans will join us in ensuring the wealthy can’t drown out middle-class voices in our democracy."

The proposal stands virtually no chance of gaining the two-thirds majority required in the House and Senate to amend the Constitution, much less being ratified by three-fourths of states. It is part of Democrats' election-year strategy in 2014, given the unpopularity of the Citizens United ruling. Republicans are largely supportive of the Supreme Court's decisions.

Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has set up a procedural vote in the Senate for Wednesday to advance a bill hiking the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, a central campaign issue for Democrats ahead of the 2014 congressional elections.

Sixty votes are needed to break a filibuster, and Democrats are unlikely to get there because not a single Republican senator is on board.

The bill, sponsored by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), is strongly backed by President Barack Obama. It would phase in the federal minimum wage hike, from the existing $7.25 per house, to $10.10 per hour over three years.

Harkin will be joined by Sens. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) and Al Franken (D-MN) to tout the bill in the Capitol on Tuesday. Democrats have threatened to hold repeated votes on the measure in the event of a Republican filibuster.

Won't get past Republican filibusters in the Senate, of course, or pass through the House, but at least people will be able to see what absolute garbage the Republican party is.
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« Reply #4710 on: April 30, 2014, 12:58:56 PM »
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« Reply #4711 on: April 30, 2014, 01:01:40 PM »
Why can't Obama lead and come up with a compromise on the minimum wage? Surely there are republicans who would support a $1 increase, instead of the nearly $3 increase Mr. Obama proposes. Imagine Obama and McCain doing a press conference, announcing support for a $1 increase in the minimum wage.

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« Reply #4712 on: April 30, 2014, 01:26:47 PM »
Technically, it is a $1 increase each year for 3 years.
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« Reply #4713 on: April 30, 2014, 01:58:36 PM »
"The Supreme Court is trying to take this country back to the days of the robber barons, allowing dark money to flood our elections," Schumer said.
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« Reply #4714 on: April 30, 2014, 02:05:44 PM »
And the Republicans have gleefully and publicly embraced these changes and will fight every step of the way to keep them from being rolled back.
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« Reply #4715 on: April 30, 2014, 11:48:49 PM »

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Even the august and ostensibly economically literate The Wall Street Journal tells him to read Animal Farm. Animal Farm, hmm. Isn't that Orwell's political parable of farm animals where a bunch of pigs hog up all the economic resources, tell the animals they need the food because they're the makers and then scare up a prospect of a phony boogie man every time their greed is challenged? Sounds familiar. Hey conservatives, it's time to stop the childish Cole War name-calling and deal with facts. Either that or be relegated to the kids and the crazy uncle table at holiday dinners.
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Re: BUNDYGATE and LAND MANAGMENTGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #4716 on: May 01, 2014, 12:20:23 AM »
Ted Cruz, whose wife works at Goldman Sachs, is viewed negatively by many in the industry for his support of last year’s government shutdown and scorched earth approach to political battle. Cruz fired up an activist gathering in New Hampshire earlier this month with the kind of provocative populist message that makes bankers very nervous. “The rich and powerful, those who walk the corridors of power, are getting fat and happy,” Cruz thundered. At the same event, Paul argued that the GOP “cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people and Wall Street.”

Wall Street bankers are even stupider than I thought if they're honestly worried about those two fucks ever daring to harm their bottom line.

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« Reply #4717 on: May 01, 2014, 12:39:46 AM »
Ted Cruz, whose wife works at Goldman Sachs, is viewed negatively by many in the industry for his support of last year’s government shutdown and scorched earth approach to political battle. Cruz fired up an activist gathering in New Hampshire earlier this month with the kind of provocative populist message that makes bankers very nervous. “The rich and powerful, those who walk the corridors of power, are getting fat and happy,” Cruz thundered. At the same event, Paul argued that the GOP “cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people and Wall Street.”

Wall Street bankers are even stupider than I thought if they're honestly worried about those two fucks ever daring to harm their bottom line.

It's been well argued that many of the uber-wealthy are so insulated from the outside world that they're no longer able to accurately assess threats to their wealth.
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Re: BUNDYGATE and LAND MANAGMENTGHAZI! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #4718 on: May 01, 2014, 12:49:44 AM »
The most obvious example being their ignorance of dogecoin.

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« Reply #4719 on: May 01, 2014, 03:48:20 AM »
Democrats continue to be exposed as the actual racists, first Cliven Bundy, then Donald Sterling, now this high level Democrat and Obama supporter:
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A piece of audio has surfaced reportedly featuring New Jersey Democratic mayoral candidate Marie Strumolo Burke making a racist outburst on a voicemail message, saying “This is terrible. This is terrible. This is gonna be a f**king n*gger town.” According to the Star-Ledger, the audio is believed to be of Burke yelling in the background of a voicemail message left by the former head of the planning board in Belleville, New Jersey.

The audio was obtained by Belleville Mayor Raymond Kimble, who just happens to be Burke’s opponent in the mayoral election. Kimble sent the audio to a forensics lab in Michigan and came away with the conclusion that it is “85 percent certain” Burke’s voice is the one on the tape.

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« Reply #4720 on: May 01, 2014, 03:52:00 AM »

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« Reply #4721 on: May 01, 2014, 10:00:50 AM »
The email mirrors CIA talking points, which the WH did not write. There's nothing new here.

I'd imagine there was some spin involved on the WH's part, but ultimately I don't buy that Obama's argument was that he defeated AQ and thus had to cover this up to save face. AQ was scattered by 2012, that's a fact. They have since regrouped but are still missing much of their leadership and large scale resources.

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« Reply #4722 on: May 01, 2014, 10:07:28 AM »
How much longer can conservatives continue beating a dead horse that has already been beaten to smithereens?

Fun fact: The 9/11 Commission took from November 2002 to July 2004 to complete their investigation and compile their report. That's about 20 months. The attack in Benghazi occurred on September 2012 and continues to be "investigated" up to May 2014. That's about 19 months and counting. So...yeah.
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« Reply #4723 on: May 01, 2014, 11:45:32 AM »
Obama didn't blow anyone up after Benghazi, so there's a lack of closure. If only we had a real leader like Sarah Palin in the WH.
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« Reply #4724 on: May 01, 2014, 11:56:27 AM »
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Black GOP Candidate Defends Cliven Bundy's Racist Screed (VIDEO)

    When he talked about black people being enslaved, I have been saying this for the last eight years — by liberal Democrat policies. I don’t understand what the problem is. Oh, I get it. I can say it, but a white person can’t. A white person say it, the press is going to use it. Especially when that white person is engaged in something or involved in something that demonstrates how the government has overstepped its bounds. …

    Under slavery, families were ripped apart, and it was a desire of black men and black women to be together with their loved ones. Family meant something. Spouses meant something. Well, what did government policies do? It broke up the black family, told the black family: ‘Hey, if you want to receive this welfare check, the man can’t be in the household.’ Huh?

    Talk about government policies. In 1965, prior to that, illegitimacy in then black community was less than 13 percent. Today it’s over 70 percent. Government liberal Democrat policies. The man was just simply telling you the truth. Jesus.
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« Reply #4725 on: May 01, 2014, 12:11:58 PM »
What about black on black crime :dead

They'd be too tired for that if they were out picking cotton all day.
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« Reply #4726 on: May 01, 2014, 12:39:27 PM »
What about black on black crime :dead

They'd be too tired for that if they were out picking cotton all day.

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« Reply #4727 on: May 01, 2014, 02:00:44 PM »
In Auschwitz and other concentration camps, Jews were actually put to work and not making more babies then they could financially support. But you look at the ultra orthodox in Israel and see them with their huge families and no taxable income, maybe they are actually worse off today?

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« Reply #4728 on: May 01, 2014, 03:25:11 PM »
My cousins there are those. :snoop

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« Reply #4730 on: May 01, 2014, 09:25:50 PM »
How much longer can conservatives continue beating a dead horse that has already been beaten to smithereens?

Fun fact: The 9/11 Commission took from November 2002 to July 2004 to complete their investigation and compile their report. That's about 20 months. The attack in Benghazi occurred on September 2012 and continues to be "investigated" up to May 2014. That's about 19 months and counting. So...yeah.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/05/01/krauthammer_on_benghazi_emails_the_equivalent_of_what_was_discovered_with_the_nixon_tapes.html
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KRAUTHAMMER: Yes, because of the appearance of this memo. To me, it's the equivalent of what was discovered with the Nixon tapes. The point is that Republicans have done a terrible job in building the case. Even today I have to say, the questioning was disjointed. It was not organized. If they had appointed a special committee a long time ago, the way it was done in Watergate, we would have had answers on this and the country wouldn't be tired.

But what I did say was the reason it would not go anywhere is because the lack of interest of the other media. And what's changed now, and we saw it in the briefing room, is I think the other media are somewhat embarrassed by the fact that, unlike FOX, they allowed themselves to be stoned and spun and rolled for a year and a half and now the memo appears and it's obvious that they missed this story.
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« Reply #4732 on: May 01, 2014, 10:27:29 PM »
I try not to have any hate in my life, but I still keep a little in my back pocket for Fox News.
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« Reply #4733 on: May 01, 2014, 10:45:14 PM »
hey remember that thing Bundy said that was offensive?
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« Reply #4734 on: May 01, 2014, 10:52:34 PM »
Angela McGlowan's appearances on Red Eye almost soured me on all black woman. She tried to bamboozle me with her annoying personality and voice.

Somebody must have challenged Santita on how many talking points she could get in during her first answer.

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« Reply #4735 on: May 02, 2014, 09:16:34 AM »
It's sad the GOP would rather be able to keep the 47% moocher talking point instead of raising the minimum wage.
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« Reply #4737 on: May 02, 2014, 11:07:16 AM »
That's not a good report outside of previous months seeing revision increases. Slowly drowning brehs.
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« Reply #4738 on: May 02, 2014, 11:59:26 AM »
Actually, the numbers over the past several months (excluding this month's) have shown job growth exceeding any drop in unemployment. This means people who previously gave up have returned to the work force. :wag
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« Reply #4739 on: May 02, 2014, 12:10:37 PM »
I know 2 people(1 being my dad) that got jobs when UI ran out. Blame the GOP for not renewing UI. :hitler

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