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[benjipwns]

http://i.imgur.com/Ka4r3Bd.gifv

Context?

It's his daughter.

[benjipwns]

hey hey hey hey hey hey hey ow!

[Oblivion]

Wow, just more proof that nobody likes Ted Cruz.

[Great Rumbler]

That's Arrested Development levels of cringe right there.

[Phoenix Dark]

Maybe she was cranky after a long day on a tour bus but man...that don't look right.

[Joe Molotov]

Maybe she was cranky after a long day on a tour bus but man...that don't look right.

The best part is when a gives a little to the camera.

[benjipwns]

Hillary and an unidentified man TIED in Cass County with 8% reporting. It's 19 to 19.

EDGE OF THE SEAT.

[Phoenix Dark]

As my friend's uncle, who is Filipino and currently learning English to get his green card, would say: never trust a man who doesn't have an intimate relationship with his daughter.

That's an actual quote btw

[benjipwns]

BIAS

[Joe Molotov]

As my friend's uncle, who is Filipino and currently learning English to get his green card, would say: never trust a man who doesn't have an intimate relationship with his daughter.

That's an actual quote btw

You know who's got an intimate relationship with his daughter? This guy right here.

[CatsCatsCats]

I'm gonna need to know her age in this picture

[benjipwns]

15

[Phoenix Dark]

As my friend's uncle, who is Filipino and currently learning English to get his green card, would say: never trust a man who doesn't have an intimate relationship with his daughter.

That's an actual quote btw

You know who's got an intimate relationship with his daughter? This guy right here.

(Image removed from quote.)

Sorry, I didn't watch the unedited version of Cape Fear.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/FernandoPeinado/status/694345745420320768

[Atramental]

hey hey hey hey hey hey hey ow!

As my friend's uncle, who is Filipino and currently learning English to get his green card, would say: never trust a man who doesn't have an intimate relationship with his daughter.

That's an actual quote btw

You know who's got an intimate relationship with his daughter? This guy right here.

(Image removed from quote.)

cringe.exe

[tiesto]

Fuck... Rubio did better than expected. He's the guy I'm most scared of, since he's the only one I think who has a shot of beating Hillary. Trump did worse than expected, too.

[benjipwns]

HILLARY STEALING DELEGATES

[benjipwns]

O'Malley out

Huckabee out, endorses Trump

[Phoenix Dark]

Hillary 

[Great Rumbler]

Trump did worse than expected, too.

To be fair, Iowa republicans picked Huckabee and Santorum in the previous two nomination cycles.

[benjipwns]

@mviser
Trump supporters are totally shocked. One woman tearfully says, “It’s just heartbreaking. He really wanted to Make America Great Again."

[Mandark]

Huckabee out, endorses Trump

Did he?

[benjipwns]

ivanka

[benjipwns]

Did he?

Guess that's just a rumor still, he made another comment about it while dropping out. My bad.

[benjipwns]

[brob]

http://i.imgur.com/rax8eDi.webm

[brob]

http://www.alternet.org/print/speakeasy/brucewilson/ted-cruzs-father-suggested-his-son-anointed-bring-about-end-time-transfer

    "The pastor [Huch] referred to Proverbs 13:22, a little while ago, which says that the wealth of the wicked is stored for the righteous. And it is through the kings, anointed to take dominion, that that transfer of wealth is going to occur." - Rafael Cruz, August 26, 2012

In a sermon [2] last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz' father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as "kings" to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the "Seven Mountains" mandate, and "bring the spoils of war to the priests", thus helping to bring about a prophesied "great transfer of wealth", from the "wicked" to righteous gentile believers. link to video [3] of Rafael Cruz describing the "great transfer of wealth" and the role of anointed "kings" in various sectors of society, including government, who are to "bring the spoils of war to the priests".

is this christian sharia

[Mods Help]

my heart y'all

holy fuck

[Rufus]

http://i.imgur.com/rax8eDi.webm

Taken from a Jeff Gerstmann model, I take it?

[Mods Help]

saw this on reddit and yeah it's cheesy but i find it funny

-( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯╲___卐卐卐卐 Don't mind me, just taking Republicans for a walk

[Mandark]

Canonically, it is a symbol of eastern spirituality.

 

[Mods Help]

Canonically, it is a symbol of eastern spirituality.

 

yeah that's the Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism one.

[curly]

Oh my god American democracy is so dumb:

Nate Silver 12:05 AM

Another reason why whoever is declared the “winner” of tonight’s Democratic caucuses is as much a matter of spin as anything else: Iowa doesn’t report votes, but instead something called “state delegate equivalents.” It’s possible that more people caucused for Sanders tonight but that Clinton will win more state delegate equivalents because her vote was distributed more evenly. Then again, Clinton did lead in the Iowa entrance polls. Without an actual vote count from Iowa, we’ll never know.

[Sausage]

https://twitter.com/HarmosRUs/status/680472704634454017

[Mods Help]

Oh my god American democracy is so dumb:

Nate Silver 12:05 AM

Another reason why whoever is declared the “winner” of tonight’s Democratic caucuses is as much a matter of spin as anything else: Iowa doesn’t report votes, but instead something called “state delegate equivalents.” It’s possible that more people caucused for Sanders tonight but that Clinton will win more state delegate equivalents because her vote was distributed more evenly. Then again, Clinton did lead in the Iowa entrance polls. Without an actual vote count from Iowa, we’ll never know.

https://twitter.com/FernandoPeinado/status/694345745420320768

America is fucking ridiculous.

[thisismyusername]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/iowa-new-hampshire-gop-voters-poll.html#

 

You’ll notice that there are no noticeable faces of color on this page; this is because we did not come across any nonwhite GOP voters in our travels.

Damn, if they needed one I could've pointed them toward Florida where A_I_A is currently.

[brawndolicious]

I'll never understand how caucuses work. But reading the results it looks like >150,000 people voted in the Republican caucus and only about 2,000 in the Democratic one. And there's like 3-4 vote (single digit wtf) difference between Bernie and Clinton with Clinton slightly ahead.

Iowa may be meaningless, I dunno but what do those numbers mean in the context of the primary?

[Phoenix Dark]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/694346554472292352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

It's like traveling back to Whiterun

[Phoenix Dark]

I'll never understand how caucuses work. But reading the results it looks like >150,000 people voted in the Republican caucus and only about 2,000 in the Democratic one. And there's like 3-4 vote (single digit wtf) difference between Bernie and Clinton with Clinton slightly ahead.

Iowa may be meaningless, I dunno but what do those numbers mean in the context of the primary?

Dem turnout was 140k actually. It was 240k in 2008. No revolution this year i guess.

It was 125k in 2004.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://twitter.com/JmeMiller1974/status/694377650798788609/photo/1

[brawndolicious]

I'll never understand how caucuses work. But reading the results it looks like >150,000 people voted in the Republican caucus and only about 2,000 in the Democratic one. And there's like 3-4 vote (single digit wtf) difference between Bernie and Clinton with Clinton slightly ahead.

Iowa may be meaningless, I dunno but what do those numbers mean in the context of the primary?

Dem turnout was 140k actually. It was 240k in 2008. No revolution this year i guess.

It was 125k in 2004.

So did Clinton win?

[Mandark]

Martin O'Malley was really fucked over. Dude was the hero this country needed. Fucking America.

He's going to be an amazing trivia answer one day.

[Phoenix Dark]

Imagine the feels you'll experience when someone answers "John Edwards?"

[benjipwns]

Oh God, he is the new John Edwards...

hold on here, let's not get carried away

[Mandark]

O'Malley had some decent accomplishments (his second term agenda seemed aimed at building a resume to present to Democratic primary voters), but he wasn't particularly beloved.  Obama got a higher share of the vote than he did both times, and his lieutenant governor lost to a Republican trying to succeed him.

Also, you could see the attack ads ahead of time: screwing up implementing the ACA exchanges, putting a tax on rain, and especially the Baltimore jail corruption scandal.  He would've been a fine mainstream Dem candidate, can't imagine he'd add a lot beyond that.

[benjipwns]

I don't think he even polled at 10% in any of those polls where they'd cut Hillary out.

Had to go back to 2014 for one where they cut both Hillary and Biden, from PPP (adjusting it so undecideds (37%) are a third what they are in the poll):
Andrew Cuomo - 19% (25%)
Elizabeth Warren - 19% (25%)
Cory Booker - 12% (16%)
Kirsten Gillibrand - 6% (8%)
Martin O'Malley - 4% (5%)
Mark Warner - 3% (4%)
Brian Schweitzer -1% (1%)

[benjipwns]

Almost eight delegates!

[benjipwns]

Sucks that they didn't ask the same questions.

Most Important Issue:
Government Spending (32%): Cruz 27% - Rubio 21% - Trump 19% - Carson 11% - Paul 9%
Economy/Jobs (27%): Rubio 30% - Trump 24% - Cruz 18% - Carson 9%
Terrorism (25%): Cruz 33% - Rubio 26% - Trump 21% - Carson 8%
Immigration (13%): Trump 44% - Cruz 34% - Rubio 10% - Carson 7%

Economy/Jobs (33%): Clinton 51% - Sanders 42%
Health Care (30%): Clinton 59% - Sanders 38%
Income Inequality (27%): Sanders 61% - Clinton 34%
Terrorism (6%): Clinton 65% - Sanders 28%

Top Candidate Quality:
Shares My Values (42%): Cruz 38% - Rubio 21% - Carson 15% - Paul 7% - Trump 5%
Can Win (21%): Rubio 44% - Trump 24% - Cruz 22%
Can Bring Change (21%): Trump 33% - Cruz 25% - Rubio 17% - Carson 8% - Paul 5%
Tells It Like It Is (14%): Trump 66% - Cruz 11% - Carson 6%

Right Experience (28%): Clinton 88% - Sanders 9%
Cares About People (26%): Sanders 74% - Clinton 22%
Honest And Trustworthy (24%): Sanders 83% - Clinton 10%
Can Win In November (20%): Clinton 77% - Sanders 17%

The Next President Should:
Be Experienced (46%): Rubio 39% - Cruz 35% - Paul 6%
Be Outside The Establishment (48%): Trump 46% - Cruz 20% - Carson 17% - Rubio 7% - Paul 4%

Continue Obama's Policies (55%): Clinton 68% - Sanders 26%
Be More Liberal (33%): Sanders 76% - Clinton 21%
Be Less Liberal (7%): Sanders 50% - Clinton 43%

When Did You Decide Whom To Support:
Before Last Month (35%): Trump 39% - Cruz 26% - Rubio 13% - Carson 9% - Paul 5%
Last Month (20%): Cruz 32% - Rubio 27% - Trump 23% - Carson 8%
Last Week (10%): Cruz 36% - Rubio 27% - Trump 13% - Carson 11%
Last Few Days (19%): Rubio 31% - Cruz 27% - Trump 13% - Carson 8% - Paul 5% - Kasich 5%
Today (16%): Rubio 28% - Cruz 22% - Trump 15% - Carson 13% - Paul 6%

Before Last Month (59%): Clinton 54% - Sanders 42%
Last Month (18%): Sanders 57% - Clinton 41%
Last Few Days (9%): Clinton 46% - Sanders 46% - O'Malley 6%
Today (7%): Clinton 45% - Sanders 42%

[Mandark]

If anyone is looking to enjoy the schadenfreude of a Trump supporter going through the stages of grieving...

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii

[benjipwns]

Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii  48m48 minutes ago
Cruz built that 3000 for lead right at the beginning and held onto the exact same lead 70% of the way. Weird.

 Bill Mitchell ‏@mitchellvii  50m50 minutes ago
Trump even won the entry polls by a solid margin yet Cruz lead the vote from the outset.

[Phoenix Dark]

I feel like I've seen or heard him before. For some notable fuck up/eye roll moment. Maybe all those guys are blending together for me now.

[benjipwns]

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/bernie-sanders-just-changed-the-democratic-party

That history explains why Sanders emerged as the big winner of the night on the Democratic side. Not only has he pulled off a rags-to-riches story, he has done it on the basis of a message that is more radical than anything Presidential politics has seen in decades—a message that he repeats with such regularity and relentlessness that his stump speech has become familiar to many Americans.

As he looked ahead to carrying on the fight in New Hampshire, he used many of his favorite lines. “It is just too late for establishment politics and establishment economics.” “We do not represent the interests of the billionaire class, Wall Street, or corporate America. We don’t want their money.” “The American people are saying no to a rigged economy.” “We are going to create an economy that works for working families, not just the billionaire class.”

In the face of such an onslaught of populist rhetoric, and the promise of some equally populist policies, what can an establishment politician like Clinton do? If the entrance polls that showed her winning handily had proved accurate, she would have been able to dismiss Sanders as a fringe candidate whose appeal was restricted to New Englanders and white, college-educated liberals. Now she will have to soldier on through New Hampshire, seeking to pull off a surprise comeback victory there, as she did in 2008. And if she can’t quite manage that—the polls, for what they are worth, show Sanders well ahead in New Hampshire—she will hope to turn things around in Nevada, where a Democratic caucus will be held on February 20th, and in the South Carolina Democratic primary, a week later.

No doubt, the going for Sanders will get a lot tougher once the race moves to states with much larger numbers of non-white voters. On the basis of her last name, her organizational ties, and her personal appeal, Clinton’s advantage over Sanders among minority voters appears to be substantial. A few months ago, however, her lead in Iowa also seemed quite substantial. As time progressed, Sanders was able to eat into it and, eventually, to eliminate it.

Speaking on CNN as it got late, David Axelrod, President Obama’s former campaign manager, made an acute point. One of Hillary’s problems is that her campaign is largely about herself—her experience, her electability, and her toughness. “I will keep doing what I have done my entire life,” she said in her non-victory speech. “I will keep standing up for you. I will keep fighting for you.” Sanders, on the other hand, rarely mentions himself in his speeches. His campaign is all about his message of taking American back from the billionaires. And as Axelrod pointed out, it is often easier to inspire people, particularly young people, with an uplifting theme than with a resumé.

This, of course, was also the problem that Clinton faced in 2008, when Obama ran on a message of hope and the slogan “Yes, we can.” In recent weeks, the Clinton campaign’s response to the Sanders and his promises of ambitious policy actions has sometimes seemed to be “No, we can’t.” In Iowa, at least, that didn’t prove to be a winning message.

[Mupepe]

The conversations here at work from the Trump supporters are all

Real quote from a Trump supporter "Well I can at least see how Bernie Sanders won with young people.  It's cool to be a Democrat when you're young and you don't understand anything about politics.  "  <-- He's 26

[Mods Help]

Where's the "Bernie is Ron Paul" people? Or the "Bernie can't win" people? If Bernie doesn't win, will you admit that a large part of the contribution to that is your default "nothing will ever change, let's not try" "it's only the Internet" "I'm pro-establishment by default" "gogo mediocrity" will be because you decided, from day one, that it was a foregone conclusion that Hilary Clinton was going to win? That's why Dems stay taking L's.

So as it is tradition for democrats, here's yours for last night.

L

Will the "Bernie can't win" "Ron Paul" people continue to use their bad talking points they use to convince themselves that Hilary is a better candidate after last night? Time will tell!

Will they start voting with their heart? Or continue to vote with their "brain?"

[Mupepe]

[ToxicAdam]

All this hoopla from what amounts to an NFL preseason game.

[Phoenix Dark]

Where's the "Bernie is Ron Paul" people? Or the "Bernie can't win" people? If Bernie doesn't win, will you admit that a large part of the contribution to that is your default "nothing will ever change, let's not try" "it's only the Internet" "I'm pro-establishment by default" "gogo mediocrity" will be because you decided, from day one, that it was a foregone conclusion that Hilary Clinton was going to win? That's why Dems stay taking L's.

So as it is tradition for democrats, here's yours for last night.

L

Will the "Bernie can't win" "Ron Paul" people continue to use their bad talking points they use to convince themselves that Hilary is a better candidate after last night? Time will tell!

Will they start voting with their heart? Or continue to vote with their "brain?"

You know who else almost won Iowa? Ron Paul.

Sanders couldn't win a lily white hyper liberal small caucus. How is he going to beat Hillary anywhere else...outside of Vermont, Utah, Montana, etc?

[benjipwns]

You know who else almost won Iowa? Ron Paul.

He did win Iowa. 

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[CatsCatsCats]

Clinton won by a statistical anamoly, breh. Up by 4 precincts -- 6 precincts decided by coin toss, all to Clinton.



That said, Mods Help take *your* L for that post

[Madrun Badrun]

6 precincts decided by coin toss?  Jesus...is on Hillary's side.