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[Human Snorenado]

So what were the highlights?

Killzone is a pretty movie
lots of smart tech advances
sharing is caring!
look, here are some shitty indie non-games, because art
new infamous
watch dogs, which is going to be out on every console imaginable
watch this year old square tech demo
hay guyz, we money hatted blizzard and bungie

notably absent:  actual console, any drm/anti-used games talk, price, kaz

conclusion:  #banborys

[huckleberry]

drink some bleach

 

[Cormacaroni]

just imagine the mad fake gamer girls you will be able to shame with this sharing

can you imagine the simping that will happen with this system

: ay girl lemme help you with that game

Yeah, if I was female real IDs would be a massive massive reason to avoid this system

[Human Snorenado]

[radioheadrule83]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=514552&page=5

Apparently you're jaded if you weren't wowed by Sony's games today and you don't appreciate effort

God forbid you expected a new generation of gaming to seem new.

...said the fucking nintendo fan

get outta here with that shit brospehus

Hey I've been enjoying share buttons and suspended games since November, granted, not as nice as that video stuff, and I've been playing on and off TV with lower latency than HDMI - which is probably faster than gakai remote play will be. The sharing stuff was the only new, next gen game changing stuff Sony showed.

Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD. The reactions everywhere are mixed and that tells you all you need to know.

The fact that you find all that extraneous bullshit "next gen" and want to shit on actual tech advances just proves where your priorities lie.  Kindly drink some bleach or something and put yourself out of our misery.

SHARING WITH YOUR FRIENDS IS NEXT GEN

GRAPHICAL AND TECH ADVANCES?  WHO CARES

The mind of a ninthing, ladies and gentlemen.

Aw u mad brolene?

My point was that the sharing stuff is at least new. What little gameplay we did get tonight showcased the total and absolute lack of imagination in this industry. Great hardware advances ploughed into derivative first person shooters and misleading promos such as the tech demo in which MM moulded clay with Move. Either diminishing returns is a reality or the tech is outpacing creativity.

So what were the highlights?

Killzone is a pretty movie
lots of smart tech advances
sharing is caring!
look, here are some shitty indie non-games, because art
new infamous
watch dogs, which is going to be out on every console imaginable
watch this year old square tech demo
hay guyz, we money hatted blizzard and bungie

notably absent:  actual console, any drm/anti-used games talk, price, kaz

conclusion:  #banborys

Accurate summary

[demi]

So inFamous 3 makes the good ending canon

[Mr. Gundam]

Infamous 3: Second Son details:

Delsin Rowe is the star of Second Son, and you probably know someone like him: A 24 year-old who is absolutely convinced he’s destined for greatness; though so far that greatness has managed to elude him. He grew up just outside Seattle, where his great – if accidental – calling comes crashing into his life. After rescuing occupants from a fiery bus wreck, he discovers that he suddenly has the ability to direct, manipulate and even transform into… Smoke. Could he have absorbed this power from one of the passengers he pulled from the wreckage?

Setting the scene: It’s been seven years since the Cole McGrath episodes and the world has clearly changed. Anyone showing signs of being a so-called “bio-terrorist” is immediately handed over to the Department of Unified Protection (DUP) — a government agency created to ensure there is never a repeat of the catastrophic events of Empire City and New Marais. So Delsin, who has never been particularly respectful of authority, finds himself caught in the DUP dragnet – And decides he’s not going to go quietly.

As you play Second Son, you’ll explore lots of Seattle’s familiar landmarks. As with all games in this series, the path the gameplay and story take will depend on the decisions you make along the way. Of course, we are creating all these characters and locations at a remarkable level of detail – made possible by PS4. In fact, this trailer was produced in-house using our game engine – can you tell we’re having fun with the new GPU, tools, and our new VFX system?

tl;dr:  You have smoke powers.  It's set in Seattle; not fake cities like the first two.  Story is Xmen Days of Future's Past-like.  Supposed to be 'real' footage.

The security camera scene from the trailer showed real locations all over Seattle. Totally psyched to play a game in my city.

[Smooth Groove]

i mean cmon this is a launch title (Image removed from quote.). I'm not gonna be able to handle next gen games looking this good

http://www.abload.de/img/7czr3n.jpg

That's some high quality bullshot

Even $3000 worth of Nvidia's greatest GPUs can't render that kinda image quality

No shit, but the assets themselves look pretty good, and with 8gb of RAM the image quality should be fine anyway.

yes because image quality is all about amount of ram

[cool breeze]

I finally realized who Mark Cerney reminds me of:  Garak from Deep Space 9

Garak

[D3RANG3D]

I finally realized who Mark Cerney reminds me of:  Shawn's mom from Shawn of the dead.

Fixed

[Eel O'Brian]

Smoke powers? Kind of a step down from being Electro.

[Brehvolution]

i mean cmon this is a launch title (Image removed from quote.). I'm not gonna be able to handle next gen games looking this good

http://www.abload.de/img/7czr3n.jpg

That is one big ass lens flare. It's next-gen alright.

Anyone know how Sony managed to get 8 GB GDDR5 memory in the PS4? Isn't that really expensive? I was thinking about regular DDR3 system for PCs all this time, but it's the more expensive GDDR5 memory. 8 GB of it. How the fuck is that possible?

Not when you order a couple of hundred million of it.

[benjipwns]

http://kotaku.com/5985822/why-were-there-no-women-presenters-at-the-playstation-4-event

Here's the thing: not a single one of the presenters at the PlayStation 4 event were women, and people noticed.

Sony destroyed, better than 55k next NPD confirmed:

Elizabeth DeLoria @elizabethdanger

 Literally going to buy a Wii U out of spite for Playstation next payday. I'm going to fight sexism by buying from competitors now.

Kate Falanga @MightySquid

 No women at the two hour Sony Playstation 4 announcement. Sad state of gaming.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

there was no women because no women work as marketers for the companies involved  this isnt fucking sexism

[Human Snorenado]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's because there's an endemic system of sexism within the industry that has nothing to do with Sony in particular; there's sadly few if any women in positions to BE presenters at these things.

For the person who said she's going out to buy a wii u... how many women presenters were there at the comparable Nintendo event?

[D3RANG3D]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's because there's an endemic system of sexism within the industry that has nothing to do with Sony in particular; there's sadly few if any women in positions to BE presenters at these things.

For the person who said she's going out to buy a wii u... how many women presenters were there at the comparable Nintendo event?

None because gaming fanthings chased away Cammie whats her face.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's because there's an endemic system of sexism within the industry that has nothing to do with Sony in particular; there's sadly few if any women in positions to BE presenters at these things.

For the person who said she's going out to buy a wii u... how many women presenters were there at the comparable Nintendo event?

None because gaming fanthings chased away Cammie whats her face.

well then, there you go

[Madrun Badrun]

I found the lack of Canadian presenters disheartening, and I won't buy the thing now.  Mostly because its going to suck.

[benjipwns]

Sony should be a little more progressive like Microsoft:

[Cormacaroni]

Tumblr idea - sexy/brainy video game women doing support/logistics/intel for action heroes

[Human Snorenado]

there was no women because no women work as marketers for the companies involved  this isnt fucking sexism

that is a result of sexism, though

not sony's fault by any means, however.

You realize you're trying to, like, reason with methodis right?  That's like trying to teach a quadriplegic breakdancing.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i guess its a result of sexism i dunno

[Cormacaroni]

buying a Wii U because of sexism is a two wrongs don't make a right situation of course but Sony should have the fucking wit to look at the presenters they have assembled to represent them globally and think 'Gee, what about the other half of the population? Maybe we should attempt to make a product with some appeal to them as well'

you know, quite apart from basic human concerns of equality and fairness and dignity etc

[Human Snorenado]

buying a Wii U because of sexism is a two wrongs don't make a right situation of course but Sony should have the fucking wit to look at the presenters they have assembled to represent them globally and think 'Gee, what about the other half of the population? Maybe we should attempt to make a product with some appeal to them as well'

you know, quite apart from basic human concerns of equality and fairness and dignity etc

I'm not so sure Sony thought that presentation out a whole lot at all

[MyNameIsMethodis]

its dumb to look at it that way though. how is it sonys fault that capcom, etc etc don't have women pr people 

there's been women presenters at Sony before, even this last E3 for Wonderbook

[Himu]

those aren't hr people. they're directors and established industry icons.

[Smooth Groove]

Sony's new slogan is we hate pussy? 

The Bore has bigger influence than we knew

[Cormacaroni]

i concede it IS possible that no women wanted to present because they knew they'd be instagiffed and hate-talked by idiots

[pilonv1]

Enjoyed seeing Killzone look colourful in rendered stuff then once you get to the gameplay - bam! brown everywhere. Good jon Guerilla

Anyway I'm going to get in my time machine tonight and play Diablo 3 on my PS4 I built a few weeks ago with an X86 processor and super GPU.

[Madrun Badrun]

You don't need female presenters to seem including of females when you have a share button. 

[cool breeze]

think this was made by matching up face buttons to determine the size, but it gives an idea of how much meatier the dual shock 4 is compared to the previous 3.

[naff]

That's a cool comparison. I'm digging the new controller, looks like something Adam Jensen would use

[Shaka Khan]

Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD.

...said the fucking nintendo fan

get outta here with that shit brospehus

.

[cool breeze]

aesthetics remind me of a steering wheel.  personally not a fan but you can already tell it's more comfortable than the old design.

And analog buttons are gone from the DS2/3, so you can't play Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3 with it.  Well, you couldn't anyway.

[Human Snorenado]

I just realized something- people are going to have to try to run the CM wizard spec on a controller

[Momo]

so what did sony fuck up?

[naff]

aesthetics remind me of a steering wheel.  personally not a fan but you can already tell it's more comfortable than the old design.

And analog buttons are gone from the DS2/3, so you can't play Metal Gear Solid 2 or 3 with it.  Well, you couldn't anyway.

How did they deal with this with 360? Surely you'd just modify the button layout for interrogation etc

[ferrarimanf355]

So, let the Xbox 720 speculation begin!

[Human Snorenado]

so what did sony fuck up?

I know I'm kind of in the minority here, but all of the social shit, the "dream" shit, the Blow/Cage shit really made me want to vomit.  Otherwise it was a fairly competent showing, but I think they should have showed a mock-up of the console at the very least.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yea, that Blow guy..."oh boy, all this testosterone in the room, hope you guys won't mind some actual games amirite!" I didn't even like most of what was shown beforehand, but that comment made me want to slap the pattern baldness off his head.

[Cormacaroni]

I think Sony has made a lot of progress, really. I mean, they took considerable care to highlight the Squeenix stuff as a movie and so forth. There were plenty of Apple-like emotive buzzwords such as magical tossed around, but nothing that stank of lies and marketing overly. Overall I came away convinced that PS4 would be a solid platform, easy to work on, with good dev support from the usual suspects and a couple of big surprises (Bungie/Blizzard). But there is still plenty of opportunity for MS to blow that away

[Cormacaroni]

Yea, that Blow guy..."oh boy, all this testosterone in the room, hope you guys won't mind some actual games amirite!" I didn't even like most of what was shown beforehand, but that comment made me want to slap the pattern baldness off his head.

also, his game looked like an iOS app - no way that needs to be next-gen. And it will sell nothing and won't be an exclusive

[benjipwns]

also, his game looked like an iOS app - no way that needs to be next-gen. And it will sell nothing and won't be an exclusive

I assume it means console exclusive because it was originally announced for Windows and iOS.

I think he had a falling out with Microsoft over XBLA policies...and Nintendo's likely a non-starter.

[Human Snorenado]

Are you shitting me?  Blow and Nintendo are a match made in heaven- two smug fuckers that think they know what's best for gaming.  If we're lucky, they'd argue and murder each other to death and spare us all their misery.

Who the fuck am I kidding?  We're not that lucky.

[Smooth Groove]

Did they announce how many jobs are needed to buy a PS4?

[DCharlieJP]

Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD

"We've" seen before? Define "We've" , Dirty NBandit

[Shaka Khan]

I thought you'd be more familiar with the Ninfantile rhetoric by now, DC: Every and each one of them owns a high-end PC that can produce visual fidelity beyond the scope of anything Sony and MS can produce, rendering all their efforts irrelevant. Thank god for Nintendo's whimsical and unmatched output!

[Damian79]

I thought you'd be more familiar with the Ninfantile rhetoric by now, DC: Every and each one of them owns a high-end PC that can produce visual fidelity beyond the scope of anything Sony and MS can produce, rendering all their efforts irrelevant. Thank god for Nintendo's whimsical and unmatched output!

If you are a gamer and dont have a high end pc for gaming by now, you arent a gamer....

[pilonv1]

http://www.4players.de/4players.php/spielinfonews/PlayStation4/34422/2129017/Killzone_Shadow_Fall|Infos_zur_Bildrate_und_3D-Unterstuetzung.html

Killzone Shadow Fall will be 30 FPS at 1080p resolution according to an interview after the presentation. German gaming site 4players.de reports:



Summary:

- Developers can choose which resources they want to use
- GG chose to have 30FPS at 1080p
- They still like 3D, wont confirm if Killzone Shadow Fall will support it

RIP 60fps console games

[mjemirzian]

I really miss the days of consistent 60 FPS in most console games. I'd prefer 720p 60 over 1080p 30.

[fistfulofmetal]

I think the battle between IQ and FPS will be a common issue next gen. I don't think we'll ever have both on consoles.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Wii u is dead. No chance of downports or even breadcrumbs.

I wonder how MS will respond to 8GB DDR5.

[huckleberry]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-sony-tells-eurogamer-playstation-4-will-not-block-used-games

Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida has told Eurogamer that PlayStation 4 will not block the use of second-hand games, contrary to various reports, speculation and even a Sony patent unearthed last month.

I sat down with Yoshida a few hours after the PS4 reveal tonight and one of the first things I asked was whether used games would be blocked.

"Do you want us to do that?" he asked.

No, I said. I think, if you buy something on a disc, that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on.

Do you agree, I asked?

"Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."

So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it?

"Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly:

"So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?"

I said I thought that was fine.

Interestingly, I also spoke to a Sony source elsewhere at the event this evening who told me that the anti used-game patent discovered last month was actually nothing to do with PlayStation 4 at all.

The patent suggested that discs would come branded with a contactless tag that could be recognised and read by your console, which would then bind it to you and prevent you from selling it on.

But whatever reason Sony did have for patenting it, it sounds like it wasn't for its next-generation console. Hopefully Microsoft will also avoid this ludicrous technology with its next-generation Xbox as well.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-playstation-4-does-not-require-an-internet-connection

If Diablo 3 taught us anything, it's that not everyone loves the idea of games that demand an internet connection.

In fact, it was hard to find anyone who loved games that demand an internet connection, which was sort of the problem: if you can't outweigh the pain of potential inconvenience to whatever proportion of your audience, then you simply aren't going to win that battle. Click click click loot loot loot.

Good news, then, because Sony Computer Entertainment seems to have reached the same conclusion at a system level for PlayStation 4, and as the result the new console will do pretty much whatever you customise it to do when it comes to the internet.

Sony's super-slick PS4 conference talked about a lot of functionality that will clearly benefit from an internet connection more than ever before - a processing module that handles downloads in the console's suspend state, for one thing - but when I talked to Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida after the PS4 conference he was adamant it was all customisable.

Does the PlayStation 4 always need to be connected to the internet, I asked?

"You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected," he suggested. "The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita."

Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?

"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

Sony clearly isn't afraid of technical nuance. This is a company that announced its next-generation console by declaring it has an x86 architecture, advanced PC GPU, 8GB of GDDR5 memory and a massive hard disk. You may like some of its networking ideas. You may not like some of them. I got the impression speaking to Yoshida that Sony has other priorities.

Speaking from experience, it's always been good at allowing people to change what they want up to a logical point - far beyond any of its competitors - and I see no reason to suspect any change this generation.

So they won't be blocking used games.
No always-on connection required


good news.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Have there been loads of nintards meltdowns on gaf?

[MCD]

8 gigs GDDR5 is huge

Can't shill for Durango anymore, gonna stick with shilling Surface for 8 years shit isn't even funny anymore

[Cerveza mas fina]

Everything else is shit we've seen before but maybe with more AA, particles, post effects and nicer LOD. The reactions everywhere are mixed and that tells you all you need to know.

Cry moar go play on your fisher price tablet

[Cerveza mas fina]

8 gigs GDDR5 is huge

Can't shill for Durango anymore, gonna stick with shilling Surface for 8 years shit isn't even funny anymore

I think MS will put in the same now.

[MCD]

According to experts at GAF, they will have to change the mobo for GDDR5

So only option is to go for 16gigs of DDR3

Show was good at first, especially the first guy, the one who showed all the technical stuff. But after that it went downhill and ended with no console in sight and no price.

Ball in your court, MS.

[radioheadrule83]

I wonder how MS will respond to 8GB DDR5.

Probably with games that look good. You massive f­aggot.

[pilonv1]

I wonder how MS will respond to 8GB DDR5.

Probably with games that look good. You massive f­aggot.