Game

[Human Snorenado]

GDDR5-TAAAAAAAAN

Bork pls (Image removed from quote.)

Omfg

What have we wrought

I'm not sure, but it's probably a sign of the end times

[Oblivion]

So is there anything MS can do at this point to Durango to make it as capable as the PS4?

[Cerveza mas fina]

So is there anything MS can do at this point to Durango to make it as capable as the PS4?

2 x

[archnemesis]

Let's a wait for the actual specs before proclaiming a "winner". Even if the Nextbox end up with a slower GPU and worse memory, I still expect most third-party multiplatform games to look the same. Loyal customers will also buy it so they can keep their friends list and gamerscore.

[Brehvolution]

[Trent Dole]

It might be cause I'm a bit sleep deprived but I genunely lol'd a bit at Kratosbull.gif

[maxy]

So is there anything MS can do at this point to Durango to make it as capable as the PS4?

MS event
Show games running on high end PCs.

E3
Show bunch of CG trailers

September or October
Quietly downgrade graphics close to WiiU levels

 

[mjemirzian]

Based on the rumors MS is trying to be both a budget priced ($300-400) media convergence device and a "good enough" core gaming console vs the PS4. We'll see how that turns out, I guess.

[MCD]

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/27/devs-helped-shape-ps4-console-wasnt-designed-in-an-ivory-towe/

"We've been very closely involved in the development of the machine," said Hermen Hulst, co-founder of Killzone developer Guerrilla Games, to The Guardian. "It's no longer designed in an ivory tower somewhere in Tokyo, it's shared with us, with [Uncharted developer] Naughty Dog, with Sony San Diego – and together we've built the machine."

Ouch.

[BlueTsunami]

Dat worldly console

[Cormacaroni]

tainted banana console

[tiesto]

Kinda wish it was some crazy-ass design from Ken K... though for Sony's sake it's better they got something more orthodox out there.

[Cormacaroni]

Long-term, building x86 boxes doesn't really seem like a battle Sony can win vs MS, does it

[Momo]

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/27/devs-helped-shape-ps4-console-wasnt-designed-in-an-ivory-towe/

"We've been very closely involved in the development of the machine," said Hermen Hulst, co-founder of Killzone developer Guerrilla Games, to The Guardian. "It's no longer designed in an ivory tower somewhere in Tokyo, it's shared with us, with [Uncharted developer] Naughty Dog, with Sony San Diego – and together we've built the machine."

Ouch.

haha, straight-up lobbing shots at the guys that sign his cheques

lager was right about his people

I can understand being frustrated at the previous design methods/teams but this, just like the Rayman stuff is hairbrained stuff

[Himu]

What is ken k doing these days anyways?

[Sho Nuff]

My previous boss was a Japanese guy and he ran into Ken at a Sony party. The PSX (DVR thing) had just come out.

My boss: Hey, I just wanted to tell you that I love the XMB interface.
Kutaragi: I KNOW.

[Momo]

What is ken k doing these days anyways?

In those moments of fanboydom I still have I daydream about him going to SEGA and starting up a new SEGA console hw project

[Sho Nuff]

IN THE FUTURE WE WILL ALL USE BEZIER PATCHES INSTEAD OF POLYGONS

[Momo]

POLYGONS ARE FOR LOSERS BEND OVER AND TAKE MY HOT VOXEL

[Himu]

What is ken k doing these days anyways?

In those moments of fanboydom I still have I daydream about him going to SEGA and starting up a new SEGA console hw project

Ahahahahhahaa I am

[benjipwns]

POLYGONS ARE FOR LOSERS BEND OVER AND TAKE MY HOT VOXEL

http://advsys.net/ken/voxlap.htm
http://voxelstein3d.sourceforge.net


Would to love to see this on 8GB GDDR5. 

[Momo]

32 bit 1992 voxels

BOW TO YOUR OVERLORDS

[Momo]

Hey, stop hating Himu, as a SEGA fan I am used to second best! (well in Ken's case ... DEAD LAST)

[Momo]

8GB DDR%


VOXEL BUTTS

[ManaByte]

My previous boss was a Japanese guy and he ran into Ken at a Sony party. The PSX (DVR thing) had just come out.

My boss: Hey, I just wanted to tell you that I love the XMB interface.
Kutaragi: I KNOW.

The new Bravia sets have ditched the XMB for the same interface as the PS Store.

[D3RANG3D]

Down Below looks pretty bad, but I guess that's more an artistic failing than a technical one. Yes the skin shading and detail are nice but it still falls into the uncanny valley.
This is why Nintendo didn't bother with a high-spec machine, folks - they aren't interested in making games with this level of realism, and I'll bet their artists aren't prepared to try.

[Great Rumbler]

I'm glad Nintendo is here to save us from hyper-realistic graphics!

[Cerveza mas fina]

Nintendo is like the church, saving us from things we like, going after the young ones and having only one ip they rehash ad nauseum.

[Sho Nuff]

I want to see a modern game engine that only uses software rendered voxels

[Cormacaroni]

minecraft could probably use some voxels

[pilonv1]

My previous boss was a Japanese guy and he ran into Ken at a Sony party. The PSX (DVR thing) had just come out.

My boss: Hey, I just wanted to tell you that I love the XMB interface.
Kutaragi: I KNOW.

Ken's era really was the golden age. We're never getting that back

[Sho Nuff]

I think Minecraft's core actually uses voxels for data storage? Not sure

But they are UGLY voxels

[Cormacaroni]

as opposed to

[Momo]

I want to see a modern game engine that only uses software rendered voxels

Does cube world not count?

[chronovore]

I think Minecraft's core actually uses voxels for data storage? Not sure

But they are UGLY voxels

as opposed to

Man, Cormacaroni, spitting truth. MORE LIKE COBRACARONI AMIRITE?

[Himu]

What in the hell are voxels?

[Oblivion]

What is ken k doing these days anyways?

I believe he's working at a small Japanese cell phone company.

[Oblivion]

Browsing through one of the thousand PS4 threads on gaf, I'm getting the impression that the PS4 has an awesome GPU, awesome RAM (did I mention it's GDDR5?), and a middling CPU. Is that about right?

[Momo]

What in the hell are voxels?

Check the cube world video i posted on the bottom of the previous page

[archnemesis]

What in the hell are voxels?

A volumetric pixel. There are a handful of games, like 3D Dot Game Heroes, that uses the art style.

Browsing through one of the thousand PS4 threads on gaf, I'm getting the impression that the PS4 has an awesome GPU, awesome RAM (did I mention it's GDDR5?), and a middling CPU. Is that about right?

It depends what you compare it to. CPU, GPU and memory are all great compared to other gaming devices (consoles, handhelds, tablets, smarthphones). Of course they won't compare favorably with a modern high-end gaming PC.

[Sho Nuff]

as opposed to

As opposed to SICK ass voxels like the ones seen above

I FEEL LIKE POSTING THIS NOW

[Trent Dole]

THE FUN CAN NOT BE HALTED

[Momo]

I dont like this avatar I chose I dont even recognize myself

[chronovore]

What in the hell are voxels?

http://bit.ly/xUTVNd

[Bildi]

What in the hell are voxels?

http://bit.ly/xUTVNd

Wow, showing some voxel art would have really spiced up their conference.

[maxy]

Guess what Famitsu readers care about(if the translation is good)
http://hokanko-alt.ldblog.jp/archives/67819793.html

Following the announcement of the PlayStation 4 last month, Famitsu conducted a survey in which its readers were asked to vote for their most anticipated game unveiled for Sony’s new hardware.

With 89 votes it should come as no surprise that the next Final Fantasy is the top choice for Famitsu readers, even though nothing was shown for the game as opposed to other titles at the February 20th event.
Watch Dogs followed with 35, Deep Down had 34 votes, Killzone: Shadow Fall had 29 votes and inFAMOUS: Second Son came in last with 23.

Additionally, readers were also impressed by the PS4′s graphical capabilities ( 97 votes ) while even more ( 106 votes ) hotly anticipate the final price for the system over seeing its actual design ( 57 votes ).
In total, 1580 votes were submitted in the survey. Multiple choices were allowed.

[Purple Filth]

Guess what Famitsu readers care about(if the translation is good)
http://hokanko-alt.ldblog.jp/archives/67819793.html

Following the announcement of the PlayStation 4 last month, Famitsu conducted a survey in which its readers were asked to vote for their most anticipated game unveiled for Sony’s new hardware.

With 89 votes it should come as no surprise that the next Final Fantasy is the top choice for Famitsu readers, even though nothing was shown for the game as opposed to other titles at the February 20th event.
Watch Dogs followed with 35, Deep Down had 34 votes, Killzone: Shadow Fall had 29 votes and inFAMOUS: Second Son came in last with 23.

Additionally, readers were also impressed by the PS4′s graphical capabilities ( 97 votes ) while even more ( 106 votes ) hotly anticipate the final price for the system over seeing its actual design ( 57 votes ).
In total, 1580 votes were submitted in the survey. Multiple choices were allowed.

Square's plan worked   

[maxy]

That translation was pretty crapastic,Kotaku has better stuff

full copy-paste
http://kotaku.com/5989103/heres-what-japanese-people-are-saying-about-the-ps4

Japanese gaming magazine, Weekly Famitsu conducted a questionnaire between February 22nd and February 26th, where they asked Japanese game fans for their thoughts and opinions on Sony's upcoming console. The questionnaire consisted of 4 questions.

1. What were your initial impressions of the PS4?
"Developers are saying it's easy to program for so it looks like there'll be a lot of games." Responded a 36 year-old office worker. Of those who responded, roughly half said they were anticipating or highly anticipating the PS4 right out the gate. Some remained reserved, however, voicing concern at the overt focus on the overseas market or the fact that the console would not be compatible with PS3 game discs. A good portion also remained on the fence due to lack of intricate details.

2. What functions or services are you interested in?
Graphics were definitely the biggest point of interest for gamers, and the PS4 does not look to disappoint. Interestingly, however, more than the other additional features, people seemed to be looking forward to the decreased load time thanks to the Suspend Mode that maintains game progress in a low-power mode. This seems to indicate an overall present dissatisfaction having to go through the startup process to load a game in progress each time you power up a machine.

3. What upcoming game titles are you interested in?

4. What upcoming announcements are you looking forward to?
The pricetag. Or, more accurately, "how hard our wallets are going to be hit" was on the minds of most responders. And with good reason. The original 60GB PS3 shook Japanese buyers down for a hefty ¥59,980 (US$638.49) when it first came out. Sony has remained tight-lipped about the price of the PS4, but hopefully it won't be as costly.
Among people who responded with "other" were the following opinions:
"It looks like there will be a lot more network services, but I'd like to know just how much of them will be available for free. I'd like things that were free for the PS3, like online play, to remain that way." (28 year-old office worker)
"Won't cloud services suffer from network congestion depending on the game genre? I don't understand why they don't just make the PS4 backwards compatible with the PS3." (39 year-old office worker)

[pickle]

I was just thinking...



Assuming that it will be a standard bluetooth device, the DS4 could serve as a pretty good PC controller with that touch pad.

[chronovore]

I understand what you mean about the touchpad, but is the DualShock3 easy to use with PCs, since it is also a normal BlueTooth device?

[archnemesis]

No, the driver support for the DualShock3 isn't good at all. It will be the same with the DS4 unless Sony decides to provide the drivers themselves.

[Cerveza mas fina]

If sony is serious about the cross platform psn bonanza they better.

[Cormacaroni]

I understand what you mean about the touchpad, but is the DualShock3 easy to use with PCs, since it is also a normal BlueTooth device?

it does work though, and with Macs too. You just need to pair it up using a cable /Settings panel on your Mac

[Don Flamenco]

as opposed to

(Image removed from quote.)

As opposed to SICK ass voxels like the ones seen above

I FEEL LIKE POSTING THIS NOW

But people's CPUs still choke to death on Minecraft somehow

[maxy]

Some gaf snerds  are claiming that PS4 games have mandatory Vita controls mapping,every DS4 game playable on Vita(remote play).

Is that true?

[archnemesis]

They did mention something similar during the press conference. I think remote play is going to be standard for the PS4. I have no idea what mandatory Vita controls mapping means though. There isn't any good way of mapping both L2/R2 and L3/R3.

[maxy]

It means that devs would have to make sure that game is somehow playable using Vita controls.

Yoshida interview

Q: You showed us how you could use the Vita as a second screen in your living room. Is that local only, or is there any ambition with Gaikai to use that as a server and get further away in the living room?

A: Technically speaking, it works from anywhere, as far as you have a wi-fi connection from your Vita to the PlayStation 4. It needs to be wi-fi. However, for some games, when you play or connect from far away, it accumulates latency. Some games may not be playable, like fighting games or shooting games. But some other slower paced games will be playable. As long as you have home routers anywhere in your home, you can play every PlayStation 4 game. We ask developers when they finish the PlayStation 4 product and submit a master to make sure that they have the appropriate controller mapping to work on PS Vita. All games will work – unless it is a dance game [laughs].

He says "we ask" though.

In theory it should work better than Gaikai,server is much closer and not hindered by internet connection.If PS4 had PS2 BC you could play PS2 JRPGs on Vita.I would be interested in that,I can't stand PS2 games on big HD screens all I see is shimmering,jaggies and pixels crawling around.

If...

[maxy]

http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-will-will-out-power-most-pcs-for-years-to-come-avalanche-studios-cto

Sony revealed the PS4 at an event in New York last month and it managed to impress a lot of industry people. Linus Blomberg, CTO and Co-founder of Avalanche Studios, is one of them.

I’m glad Sony decided to go with 8gb RAM because it means that the PS4 will out-power most PC’s for years to come.

 

[Great Rumbler]

Most PCs = $500 Dell from Best Buy

So, yeah...

[maxy]

I bet that even those PCs have far better CPU than PS4.