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Re: The official PS4 thread of voxel POWAH!
« Reply #1560 on: April 05, 2013, 05:12:03 AM »
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.

I dunno sometimes the difference is large  Like the sparks coming otu of his back when he gets up and the shadows from the sky.  I am hoping that it is just an early video which is probably what it is.

Not really its missing global illumination, DOF and Tessellation, and a shit ton of particles pretty damning if you ask me.

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Epic gutted global illumitation out of UE4 because the consoles can't handle it, another gen of prebaked lighting. :fbm
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« Reply #1561 on: April 05, 2013, 05:24:50 AM »
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.

I dunno sometimes the difference is large  Like the sparks coming otu of his back when he gets up and the shadows from the sky.  I am hoping that it is just an early video which is probably what it is.

Not really its missing global illumination, DOF and Tessellation, and a shit ton of particles pretty damning if you ask me.

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Epic gutted global illumitation out of UE4 because the consoles can't handle it, another gen of prebaked lighting. :fbm
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It has GI

From Epic
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"Biggest differences are SVOGI has been replaced with a more efficient GI solution, a slight scale down in the number of particles for some FX, and tessellation is broken on ps4 in the current build which the lava used for displacement. We will fix the tessellation in the future."

This has been done on "crippled" UE4


Best looking next gen tech demo by far.
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« Reply #1562 on: April 05, 2013, 05:28:00 AM »
Both those tech demos look pretty good to me. I'd hope nobody is seriously hung up on the differences.

I dunno sometimes the difference is large  Like the sparks coming otu of his back when he gets up and the shadows from the sky.  I am hoping that it is just an early video which is probably what it is.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-unreal-engine-4-ps4-vs-pc

Not really its missing global illumination, DOF and Tessellation, and a shit ton of particles pretty damning if you ask me.

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Epic gutted global illumitation out of UE4 because the consoles can't handle it, another gen of prebaked lighting. :fbm
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It has GI

From Epic
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"Biggest differences are SVOGI has been replaced with a more efficient GI solution, a slight scale down in the number of particles for some FX, and tessellation is broken on ps4 in the current build which the lava used for displacement. We will fix the tessellation in the future."

This has been done on "crippled" UE4


Best looking next gen tech demo by far.

Its prebaked on the elemental demo running on the ps4, it uses the UE3 method of prebaked lighting...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52495272&postcount=1

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-unreal-engine-4-ps4-vs-pc

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« Reply #1563 on: April 05, 2013, 05:31:54 AM »
Article was updated with comments from Epic.
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« Reply #1564 on: April 05, 2013, 05:35:31 AM »
Article was updated with comments from Epic.

The update tells me what I already know prebaked lighting, and missing particles...

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That update reeks of damage control
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« Reply #1565 on: April 05, 2013, 05:38:39 AM »
Tons of games use and will continue to use prebaked stuff.

PS4 damage control?
Maybe but who cares,Infiltrator runs on a single gtx 680 and it looks a lot better than Elemental demo.

UE4 is hot stuff
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« Reply #1566 on: April 05, 2013, 01:52:51 PM »
yeah, I remember when people were underwhelmed by the original Elemental demo.  Infiltrator and Samaritan (UE3, but still) had a more positive response, when Elemental was as or more impressive for what it was doing.


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« Reply #1567 on: April 05, 2013, 04:45:50 PM »
What's said and shown initially is never how things actually turn out. :-*
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First video's not even available to watch in the US. :yuck
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« Reply #1568 on: April 05, 2013, 08:57:43 PM »
What's said and shown initially is never how things actually turn out. :-*
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First video's not even available to watch in the US. :yuck

Just the first showing of the same Gundam from the Sony Gamers Day that looked nothing like the final game.
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« Reply #1569 on: April 08, 2013, 11:03:26 AM »
http://www.videogamer.com/news/ps4s_8gb_ram_was_kept_secret_from_third-party_devs_until_console_reveal.html

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Third-party developers were not aware that PlayStation 4 would include 8GB of GDDR5 RAM until Sony's reveal event in February - despite having received development kits long before the console's announcement.
Speaking with VideoGamer.com, Just Add Water's CEO Stewart Gilray - who is developing a mystery title for PlayStation 4 - revealed that third-parties were initially told that the console would feature only 4GB of RAM, and were left happily surprised when the system's lead architect Mark Cerny discussed the console's specs on stage.

"We were told [PS4] was 4GB originally," Gilray told us, "and we first knew it had 8GBs when Mark said at the event's stage, 'And it has 8GB of memory.' We'd had kits at that point for a good while."

 :gddr5
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« Reply #1570 on: April 08, 2013, 11:06:57 AM »
Maxy can spin it anyway he wants. The PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 RAM while the Durango has 4GB of DDR3 RAM.

Online only consoles don't need no RAM.
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« Reply #1571 on: April 08, 2013, 11:19:02 AM »
More news
http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/killzone_shadow_fall/news/ps4_has_no_performance_bottlenecks_claims_killzone_developer.html

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The PlayStation 4 has been so carefully designed that developers won't find a performance bottleneck, Michiel Van Der Leeuw, technical director at Guerrilla Games, has told Edge.

"The fact that the best pieces of hardware are also devised from, or optimized versions of, the stuff we find in PCs doesn't make it any less a console," Van Der Leeuw explained. "A PC is a number of parts that also [have] bridges in-between, where there are inefficiencies that may [come in if they're not] exactly the right match."

But with the PS4, Sony has - allegedly - been able to ensure these inefficiencies don't exist.

Van Der Leeuw continued: "We've got the right amount of memory, video card; everything's balanced out. It was a very conscious effort to make sure that – with the speed of the memory, the amount of compute units, the speed of the hard drive – there would not be any bottlenecks.

"I think it was for more than a year that we knew the main ingredients and there was just discussion after discussion trying to find a bottleneck. Take a look at this design; try to find the bottleneck."
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« Reply #1572 on: April 08, 2013, 11:42:52 AM »
Maxy's getting awfully sore these days.
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« Reply #1573 on: April 08, 2013, 11:49:26 AM »
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy?  :'(

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« Reply #1574 on: April 08, 2013, 11:52:53 AM »
???
This are just normal daily PS4 news,you can find them anywhere.
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« Reply #1575 on: April 08, 2013, 11:55:23 AM »
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy?  :'(

Maxy and the Durango:
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« Reply #1576 on: April 08, 2013, 11:58:54 AM »


PR or not,who cares.



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Its a double page interview with the game and technical directors from Evolution studios, but it mostly focuses on the Dualshock 4 and how they helped with its design.

Because they obviously know it'll go down well they specifically talk about how they had input on the parts for the gyro control and how they had to compromise with the Killzone team on how much subtlety of control the triggers have. They also have a Motorstorm RC prototype with the DS4 which apparently takes advantage of 'reduced deadzone size and more accurate sticks'.

There's also some talk about how there were mockups for the game that look like dating websites. Oh and how its not a simulation or arcade game but something new.
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« Reply #1577 on: April 08, 2013, 12:18:30 PM »
hint
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look at the flags  :geoff
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« Reply #1578 on: April 08, 2013, 01:52:34 PM »
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy?  :'(

lol people are now realizing this?
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« Reply #1579 on: April 08, 2013, 02:27:30 PM »
Is it true, is maxy really an MS fanboy?  :'(

lol people are now realizing this?

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So we all know that Durango hates true gamers. We all know that Durango will no longer play video games, but will instead become some casual tv-roku bullshit. But none of you know the real secret behind M$'s nefarious plans, and I will reveal it to you. Prepare to you have your fucking minds blown, ladies and gentlemen, as I reveal to you the things that not even Microsoft knows that they know about:

Microsoft's Durango will cause SUPER CANCER-AIDS.

Yep. It's a fact. Do you want to know how? Well keep reading.

As you have probably heard by now, the Durango will no longer play videogames and will instead become a tv box. What you don't know is that the Durango will also contain a small chip that will emit gamma rays each time you watch tv. See, when you play video games, you use your brain more, and this helps you fight-off evil gamma rays from any source. Microsoft has tried this before with the xbox360, but they failed. You know why? Because you could still play games. Your superior (probably Sony-amplified, more on that later) game-playing brain fought off the gamma rays (from here on referred to as cancer rays) back to the xbox360, causing it to overheat. You want proof? One word: Red Ring Of Death. (This was originally an internal M$ code word for the cancer rays because they were fired in a circular pattern.)

With the Durango, M$ has wizened-up. They decided to drop video-games completely, and turn you into the equivalent of a fossilized vegetable as you watch their cocaine and heroin infused tv box so that the cancer rays can get really deep into your tissues for maximum cancer efficiency. These cancer rays are very efficient. In fact, they are so efficient that they can cause you to spontaneously develop full blown SUPER AIDS.

Speaking of super aids, there is another mechanism by which the Durango will cause it. Everybody knows that gamers don't get to have sex, but there is one advantage to this: you don't get STDs and you live longer. But by bringing in the casual crowd, and by pretty much transforming anybody that so much as touches the nextbox into a casual, M$ will turn everyone owning a Durango into a fucking casual (pun absolutely intended). The casuals will then exponentially increase the rate at which the HSIV virus is transmitted. This, combined with the cancer rays, will change life as we know it on planet earth. This is already happening by the way: a recent study suggested that people that own a 360 are better at sex than PS3, Wii, or PC owners.

Why is M$ doing this? The answer is simple: money. If you think charging $500 for a games console is expensive, wait till you hear this: M$ just recently bought a small biologics R/D company and rumor has it that they already have a vaccine. M$ plans to charge $5000 a day for an infusion of the vaccine per infected patient. The amount was initially set at 1 billion, but brought down to $5000 to make it seemingly obtainable and hope-inducing, yet still soul-crushingly expensive (the 1 billion to $5000 discount will be advertised as savings pass). SO EVIL.

So what can you do about this?

YOU MUST BUY A PS4

Why? Because:

THE PS4 HAS INFINITE POWER AND WILL BECOME JESUS

As you know, a developer that works exclusively for Sony said that the PS4 has no performance bottlenecks. What does this mean? It means the PS4 has unlimited power, and it can do anything. You don't need any other console, and you certainly don't want a Durango. And if you must know, M$ has actually been planning this for a long time, but because Sony was around since the PS1 days, they have been protecting us with their exclusives and clearly superior games, helping us fight the cancer rays all this time. This is why most studies show that PS3 players are more mature - they have superior game-playing brains, and why a recent poll on NeoGAF concluded that Sony will be missed the most if they dissipated, and M$ the least. (No one cares about Nintendo because they only sell 1st party titles).

However, the real reason to buy a PS4 is because it will become Jesus of Nazareth. If you remember last generation, Sony developed a processor called CELL which was used by medical doctors all over the world to help cure cancer and conduct research into protein folding. No one told you what this was, but it was due to the Power of the Holy Spirit emanating from the CELL. Though Sony may have switched architectures for the PS4, it doesn't matter because SONY IS GOD. Sony will save all of us from the true, terrible Satan that is M$, and Sony will cure Super Cancer-Aids.
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Re: The official PS4 thread of voxel POWAH!
« Reply #1580 on: April 08, 2013, 02:47:18 PM »
It would take 8-gigs of ram to load up a u-mad GIF big enough to handle Maxy right now
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« Reply #1581 on: April 08, 2013, 03:13:49 PM »
maxy better ask for a nick change soon
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« Reply #1582 on: April 08, 2013, 03:17:12 PM »
saw this sony product earlier (dvd player or somthing?), and for as little as the console look matters, I still want the PS4 to look like this:



Sony Gamepuck :bow2

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« Reply #1583 on: April 08, 2013, 03:21:27 PM »
That's their 4K media player. Basically a super expensive Ultra HD Sony version of a Roku/Apple TV.
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« Reply #1584 on: April 08, 2013, 05:54:16 PM »
PS4 should be symmetric.

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« Reply #1585 on: April 08, 2013, 07:28:27 PM »
That's their 4K media player. Basically a super expensive Ultra HD Sony version of a Roku/Apple TV.

isn't that what the Durango will be
 :heh
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« Reply #1586 on: April 11, 2013, 04:29:00 PM »
http://ps4daily.com/2013/04/playstation-4-developers-7-gb-ram/

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The PlayStation 4 will ship with a massive 8 GB of GDDR5 memory, which is a huge upgrade compared to the current generation consoles. However, according to a PlayStation 4 developer PS4Daily spoke to, they have access to “only” 7 GB of RAM. The remaining 1 GB is reserved for the operating system and background tasks.

Sony originally shipped dev kits to third party developers with only 4 GB RAM, and kept the true RAM amount secret from third party developers in order to keep it secret from Microsoft as well. Developers learned about the 8 GB of memory when the rest of the world did — during the February unveiling.

 :gddr5
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« Reply #1587 on: April 11, 2013, 04:32:04 PM »
Sounds reputable.
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« Reply #1588 on: April 11, 2013, 04:55:10 PM »
PRAYSTAYSHUN

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« Reply #1589 on: April 11, 2013, 05:11:40 PM »
7GB for games is a pretty big thing.
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« Reply #1590 on: April 11, 2013, 05:12:51 PM »
7GB for games is a pretty big thing.

Bigger than Durango's RAM.
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« Reply #1591 on: April 11, 2013, 05:57:34 PM »


much better than the lame gddr-5 tan we have here on bore :smug
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« Reply #1592 on: April 11, 2013, 06:45:17 PM »
8gb ddr3 is this gen's Blu-ray.  Looks good on paper but ultimately useless 99% of the time for gaming purposes. 

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« Reply #1593 on: April 11, 2013, 07:02:07 PM »
 ??? Aren't games loaded into and streamed from memory?
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« Reply #1594 on: April 11, 2013, 07:07:53 PM »
Yeah but games won't need that much ram.  Just like with the PS3, Sony should have put the money into a better GPU.  Problems which have plagued consoles like shitty framerates and lower resolutions tend to be caused by lack of processing power rather than lack of memory. 

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« Reply #1595 on: April 11, 2013, 07:17:45 PM »
I agree it's a marketing thing for now, but it leaves a lot of room for growth in the coming years.
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« Reply #1596 on: April 11, 2013, 07:26:13 PM »
Your underwears have lots of room for growth

Doesn't mean that anything will be growing

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« Reply #1597 on: April 11, 2013, 07:26:18 PM »
It leaves a lot of room for a bloated OS  and programs sitting unnecessary in background memory. 

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« Reply #1598 on: April 11, 2013, 07:59:41 PM »
Don't forget potential.
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« Reply #1599 on: April 11, 2013, 08:00:46 PM »
They can reduce mid-game load times I guess. Or let you multitask between games/apps/whatever.

You know what I'd love, if Sony added mouse/kb support. I mean the SNES had a mouse, right? I never learned how to play FPS games on a controller.

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« Reply #1600 on: April 11, 2013, 08:12:07 PM »
Your underwears have lots of room for growth

Doesn't mean that anything will be growing

:umad

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« Reply #1601 on: April 11, 2013, 10:19:33 PM »
Your underwears have lots of room for growth

Doesn't mean that anything will be growing

:umad

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« Reply #1602 on: April 12, 2013, 10:53:54 AM »
Your underwears have lots of room for growth

Doesn't mean that anything will be growing

:umad
:lol :lol :lol
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« Reply #1603 on: April 12, 2013, 02:14:56 PM »
Remember the last time that 2/3 years into a gen you went like "oh man they really shouldnt have added this good component I wish they would have stuck something worse in"?

Never ever

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« Reply #1604 on: April 12, 2013, 04:15:09 PM »
Remember the last time that 2/3 years into a gen you went like "oh man they really shouldnt have added this good component I wish they would have stuck something worse in"?

Never ever

Of course nobody said that but they said "oh man I wish Sony would have added a decent GPU in the PS3 instead of a Blu-ray drive that does shit for 1080P/60FPS as was promised". 

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« Reply #1605 on: April 12, 2013, 04:43:33 PM »
Blu Ray was a Trojan horse that no one wanted, 8GB was asked for by devs.

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« Reply #1606 on: April 13, 2013, 03:04:30 AM »
I expect Sony's First Party to smoke the competition with ridiculous ease.

Why?

These are the same developers who learned endlessly complex hardware with the PS3 and STILL had their games look ages better than third parties AND MS.

And now you're giving them a console that's literally a PC and having 7 GB of extremely efficient RAM to work with, when they've been USED to working their asses off with extremely complex hardware?

lol it's going to be an absolute slaughter.
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« Reply #1607 on: April 13, 2013, 08:32:07 AM »
I expect Sony's First Party to smoke the competition with ridiculous ease.

Why?

These are the same developers who learned endlessly complex hardware with the PS3 and STILL had their games look ages better than third parties AND MS.

And now you're giving them a console that's literally a PC and having 7 GB of extremely efficient RAM to work with, when they've been USED to working their asses off with extremely complex hardware?

lol it's going to be an absolute slaughter.

 :oreilly
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« Reply #1608 on: April 13, 2013, 09:18:09 AM »
maxy is finally seeing the light  :aah

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« Reply #1609 on: April 13, 2013, 09:48:35 AM »
maxy playin his cards right

if ps4 more powerful = I told you so

if it isn't = I was always a xfag

it's a safe strategy, always worked for me

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« Reply #1610 on: April 13, 2013, 10:01:48 AM »
It's a gaf repost. Don't worry, maxy is still an xbot. :-[

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« Reply #1611 on: April 14, 2013, 10:08:49 AM »
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Join the green side.

1024 bit graphics
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« Reply #1612 on: April 18, 2013, 02:59:05 AM »
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CVG understands that Sony is weeks away from revealing its next Gran Turismo title.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/401434/retailer-lists-gran-turismo-6-for-ps3/
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« Reply #1613 on: April 18, 2013, 08:11:59 AM »
And why did you post this in the PS4 thread? :/

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« Reply #1614 on: April 18, 2013, 08:21:50 AM »
And why did you post this in the PS4 thread? :/

There is some rumor about late April/early May PS4 event.

2+2=?
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« Reply #1615 on: April 18, 2013, 09:29:19 AM »
6.

GT6.

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« Reply #1616 on: April 18, 2013, 10:59:17 AM »
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much better than the lame gddr-5 tan we have here on bore :smug

The only RAM that matters this year:

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« Reply #1617 on: April 18, 2013, 02:06:01 PM »
This a fucking great album, thanks for the reco

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Re: The official PS4 thread of voxel POWAH!
« Reply #1619 on: April 24, 2013, 01:46:39 PM »
    
Spoken like a true system architect ! Ps4 is a game changer it is going to be spectacular
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