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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1740 on: May 22, 2013, 12:14:36 PM »
If ps4 requires a camera too ill be skipping that shit.

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« Reply #1741 on: May 22, 2013, 12:28:49 PM »
come to think of it, how will the xbox one be $399 with a system and an advanced kinect thing

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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1742 on: May 22, 2013, 12:40:16 PM »
I think the Xbone is gonna be hella expensive, just look at the size of the fucking thing

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« Reply #1743 on: May 22, 2013, 12:40:55 PM »
Some people where suggesting it would be $499. That's why I was thinking the Xbox Live subsidized version would be more attractive for the average American.

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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1744 on: May 22, 2013, 12:56:52 PM »
It can be 399 because of budget ram, no headset etc.

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« Reply #1745 on: May 22, 2013, 12:58:35 PM »
I think the same dude who said it'd be $300 w/sub, $500 w/o was incorrect about other rumors.  Higher than $500 would be crazy, though.

Microsoft seems to be going with one configurations this time; 500gb in the box, expandable through USB.  IIRC, Xbox 360 with hard drive, Kinect, and two games still goes for $350 or $400.

edit:  Microsoft's E3 conference is before Sony's.  Chances are we'll hear prices there. 
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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1746 on: May 22, 2013, 01:14:50 PM »
I think the same dude who said it'd be $300 w/sub, $500 w/o was incorrect about other rumors.  Higher than $500 would be crazy, though.

Yea he claimed they would show illumiroom but they didn't but he also claimed the sub/contract thing was scrapped as well.

E3 is getting more exciting since questions are there to be answered for both sides

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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1747 on: May 22, 2013, 01:58:04 PM »

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« Reply #1748 on: May 22, 2013, 02:02:37 PM »
PS4 gives the potential that some publishers won't bother with activation checks/DRM servers. The big ones (EA, Activision, Ubi) will probably do it, but smaller or friendlier devs won't.

That's far better than X1 where apparently your system is a brick after 24 hours offline.

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« Reply #1749 on: May 22, 2013, 02:13:33 PM »
PS4 gives the potential that some publishers won't bother with activation checks/DRM servers. The big ones (EA, Activision, Ubi) will probably do it, but smaller or friendlier devs won't.

That's far better than X1 where apparently your system is a brick after 24 hours offline.


exactly what i said.
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« Reply #1750 on: May 22, 2013, 02:16:58 PM »
High 5 bro. :-[

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« Reply #1751 on: May 22, 2013, 02:18:26 PM »
It's nice to have dreams.
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« Reply #1752 on: May 22, 2013, 02:19:32 PM »

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« Reply #1753 on: May 22, 2013, 02:23:41 PM »
It's nice to have dreams.

Just like you had before last night

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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1754 on: May 22, 2013, 02:31:23 PM »
If you paid attention you would see that I pretty much guessed almost everything about X1 months ago.
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« Reply #1755 on: May 22, 2013, 02:34:23 PM »
I really didn't maxy sorry.

How do you feel about the hackability now that it has to validate online every 24 hours?

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« Reply #1756 on: May 22, 2013, 02:43:16 PM »
Difficult,unless there is some fatal mistake inside.

Three operating systems
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« Reply #1757 on: May 23, 2013, 03:12:25 AM »
I think the Xbone is gonna be hella expensive, just look at the size of the fucking thing

That's just because, unbeknownst to everyone, MS is actually shipping a Tech Level 7 item in a Tech Level 6 market, using oversized components.

Sony will be selling a graphics powerhouse again, and if it becomes the main SKU again, as it was in the PS2 era, that'll be great. If it's the secondary SKU, as with most publishers in the PS3 era, it'll be painful.

Nintendo is going to sell everyone the Gamecube again.

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« Reply #1758 on: May 23, 2013, 06:00:51 AM »
What does "15 exclusives" even mean?
I hope it means they will have 15 games that cannot be found on any other system. Any other use of the word is misleading.

12 kinect games, Forza 5, Halo 7000 and that Remedy game.
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« Reply #1759 on: May 23, 2013, 01:28:40 PM »
Microsoft got Call of Duty Dog.

Sony has the Destiny gameplay reveal at the PS4 conference:
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« Reply #1760 on: May 23, 2013, 02:22:13 PM »
Wow that trailer was terrible.
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« Reply #1761 on: May 23, 2013, 02:26:25 PM »
There is strength in the fudge pack.
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« Reply #1762 on: May 23, 2013, 02:33:02 PM »
I finished watching that trailer and can't remember anything about it other than the tone of Gus' voice.

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« Reply #1763 on: May 23, 2013, 02:45:08 PM »
"We got Breaking Bad's Giancarlo Esposito for our spot!"

"Sweet, that man has a really intense and powerful presence."

"Yeah, but we thought we'd just have him read a shitty and confusing bedtime story or something."

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« Reply #1764 on: May 23, 2013, 06:44:39 PM »
Maybe it's all just a huge social experiment.
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« Reply #1765 on: May 23, 2013, 07:07:03 PM »


"Yeah, but we thought we'd just have him read a shitty and confusing bedtime story or something."

That was probably filmed for something else that was cancelled.
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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1766 on: May 24, 2013, 05:28:12 AM »
I have no idea why there are these random games like Destiny that 'gamers' keep getting hyped for.

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« Reply #1767 on: May 24, 2013, 05:47:36 AM »
I have no idea why there are these random games like Destiny that 'gamers' keep getting hyped for.
WTF are you talking about? Destiny is no random game. It's the next new ip from a well respected developer and they talk about all these big ideas they have with it.  If you have no idea why people would be hyped for it then....

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« Reply #1768 on: May 24, 2013, 08:25:09 AM »
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything that is 'space wars' or space sci-fi plays part of it I must add.
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« Reply #1769 on: May 24, 2013, 08:27:05 AM »
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.

It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.
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« Reply #1770 on: May 24, 2013, 08:38:19 AM »
Im just tired of space games sci-fi games space shooters etc
I dont like seeing games like that being one of the most anticipated sort of games. I want to see a shift from FPS and TPS to more adventure and exploration. A shift from shooters and violence and constant combat toward clever and original games. Destiny sounds like a boring as fuck game.

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« Reply #1771 on: May 24, 2013, 02:49:45 PM »
that sounds cool and I want to hear more about the game.  these wanky lore trailer and documentaries are off putting.

speaking of wanky, this is how Sony announced that the PS4 is coming to Europe in 2013.


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« Reply #1772 on: May 24, 2013, 02:52:23 PM »
I was expecting it to slip to March 2014 in Europe so this is excellent news.

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« Reply #1773 on: May 24, 2013, 03:13:29 PM »
Apparently they will do some big ad tomorrow at the CL final to further kill Xboner.

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« Reply #1774 on: May 27, 2013, 08:04:41 AM »
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.

It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.

Hellgate: London was poised to capitalize on this concept several years ago. There are people who STILL feel burned on that.

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« Reply #1775 on: May 27, 2013, 10:28:15 AM »
Im just tired of space games sci-fi games space shooters etc
I dont like seeing games like that being one of the most anticipated sort of games. I want to see a shift from FPS and TPS to more adventure and exploration. A shift from shooters and violence and constant combat toward clever and original games. Destiny sounds like a boring as fuck game.


A sci-fi survival horror game would be great. 

no not dead space, that's a TPS.   

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« Reply #1776 on: May 27, 2013, 10:56:02 AM »
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.

It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.

Hellgate: London was poised to capitalize on this concept several years ago. There are people who STILL feel burned on that.

In our defense, Hellgate: London is a steaming pile of shit
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« Reply #1777 on: May 27, 2013, 12:27:22 PM »
It looks generic. My dislike towards anything 'space wars' related plays part of it I must add.

It's a pretty decent concept. Essentially a Diablo style game set in a sci-fi setting and an FPS. Dungeons, loot, raids, etc etc.

Hellgate: London was poised to capitalize on this concept several years ago. There are people who STILL feel burned on that.

That game sounded awesome.

That prick that made it was on retronauts before it came out and it sounded so good.
Then i tried the beta and jesus christ it was like eastern europe jank x 1000, made by inmates from a siberian gulag

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« Reply #1778 on: May 27, 2013, 08:06:19 PM »
Yeah, it's hard to argue with "Diablo-gameplay, but as an FPS" then add post-holocaust and you've got a winning combo.

Then I think there was some fairly complex stuff happening, probably largely because this was a first-time effort of a mainly ex-Blizzard team, working for a publisher which was not Blizzard, and in fact was Namco, EA, and another Korean company. They likely faced weird pressures from each, as well as foundering on the non-Blizzard work environment. Plus, for its time, this is considered  greed:

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There were two types of multiplayer accounts: free and subscription accounts. Subscribers had access to ongoing content updates.
The US subscription plan cost $9.95 (USD) a month and an offer to pay a one-time fee of $149.99 for a lifetime subscription was available for up to 100,000 people who pre-ordered the game and ended on January 31, 2008.[12] The UK subscription is £6.99 and EU subscription is €9.99.[13]

Additionally, subscribers would have access to a Hardcore mode, special PvP arenas and a PvP ladder, the ability to bypass server queues, a shared storage space with room for 40 items instead of 20, the ability to create guilds, the ability to achieve officer status in guilds, and 24-hour customer support.[14] Subscribers and non-subscribers were able to interact in all ways in the game. Non-subscribers could join guilds, but not create them.[15] The level cap is set to 50 and up to 24 character slots are available for all players.[16]

There's so much that's locked off to the non-subscribers, and this wasn't really marketed as an MMO, at the time the only genre for which people could rationalize a monthly fee.

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« Reply #1779 on: May 27, 2013, 08:18:20 PM »
It also shipped broken, introducing the term Flagshipped.
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« Reply #1780 on: May 27, 2013, 08:20:52 PM »
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« Reply #1781 on: May 29, 2013, 04:07:22 PM »
Shuhei Yoshida confirmed that all PS4 games that don't require the camera will work on the Vita through remote play.

I wonder if third parties will start building games with cameras in mind since it's now a standard feature on the two main platforms.  The discrepancy is that the Xbox One camera is more advanced while PS4 controller is more advanced.

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« Reply #1782 on: May 29, 2013, 11:59:26 PM »
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« Reply #1783 on: June 06, 2013, 05:46:35 PM »
T-Shirt SCEA is sending out to devs:


If you're signing up as a PSN developer (digital only) it's basically free to get started.
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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1784 on: June 06, 2013, 06:06:15 PM »
Man psn is gonna get all those steam indie games.

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« Reply #1785 on: June 06, 2013, 07:43:22 PM »
So it's basically just a PC
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« Reply #1786 on: June 06, 2013, 08:04:51 PM »
They've really embraced Mark Cerny's ideas, hope it works out for them.

Gamers react pretty positively to Steam's perceived generosity, very permissive offline mode, and community involvement. (and Gabe swimming in pools of cash)

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« Reply #1787 on: June 07, 2013, 04:58:46 AM »
They've really embraced Mark Cerny's ideas, hope it works out for them.

Gamers react pretty positively to Steam's perceived generosity, very permissive offline mode, and community involvement. (and Gabe swimming in pools of cash)

I suspect Gabe just floats on it; that is not the body of a swimmer.

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« Reply #1788 on: June 07, 2013, 04:43:16 PM »
Seeing all these Xbone articles in the mainstream press and just the pure backlash and hate by even respected sites like Forbes, Time & Wall Street Journal....I gotta wonder how if all the top heads at Sony aren't huddled around in an emergency meeting going "Oh shit...we can't do this" and scrambling to change their DRM policy, whatever it is, so that they can go on stage on Monday and say "The PS4 never needs to be online.  You can sell your PS4 games to anyone, anywhere.  You can lend your PS4 games to friends and then get them back after they are done with them."

Would make all the vocal backlash a major moment in the industry it if it causes Sony to step back on any majorly restrictive DRM plans they were going to use for an entire generation.


If they still push forward with a similar DRM scheme after all this backlash...they're either incompetent (which unfortunately is Sony a lot of the time) or just don't care.  Monday will be one for the times, that's for sure.   

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« Reply #1789 on: June 07, 2013, 05:03:43 PM »
Or they don't want to be the next WiiU, MS is going full steam with this so Sony has no choice but bend over to the publishers, hopefully no one outside the big three will force all this shit on the PS4, I think that's the best we can hope for at this point.
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« Reply #1790 on: June 07, 2013, 05:09:31 PM »
Man psn is gonna get all those steam indie games.

Which is a good thing. I love the indie stuff on PSN now.

Zero startup cost for digital publishing + Unity PS4 output will mean lots of stuff coming to PSN.
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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1791 on: June 07, 2013, 05:27:47 PM »
hasn't sony already said ps4 doesn't need to be online
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« Reply #1792 on: June 07, 2013, 05:49:38 PM »
Yes, PS4 won't require online connectivity at all.  Doesn't mean anything either way towards the DRM stuff though.

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« Reply #1793 on: June 07, 2013, 05:57:49 PM »
There'd be no reliable way to check which games you 'own' without an online requirement, so it could mean a lot, but that's still no cause for celebration.

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« Reply #1794 on: June 07, 2013, 08:24:28 PM »
Oscar, I think someone said you never have to plug the PS4 into the internet once.

I also don't know what YOPO means :(

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« Reply #1795 on: June 07, 2013, 08:38:12 PM »
You Only Pay Once

and yes, I've read that it tracks how many times the Vita version has been redeemed.  It's not 'always online' but it'll lockout trade-ins just the same, unless it truly is PC DRM circa 2006 where you can unregister your copy and sell it.

The other method people (joked) about was an NFC chip in each blu-ray.

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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1796 on: June 07, 2013, 08:58:57 PM »
Oscar, I think someone said you never have to plug the PS4 into the internet once.

I also don't know what YOPO means :(

You Only Pay Once
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« Reply #1797 on: June 07, 2013, 09:20:10 PM »
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Re: The official PS4 thread of Big Black... Box
« Reply #1798 on: June 07, 2013, 11:23:35 PM »
Sony isn't going to stop the big publishers from setting up DRM on their PS3/PS4 games.

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« Reply #1799 on: June 08, 2013, 03:32:49 AM »
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