Author Topic: Yet another GAF thread - I still haven't got over it :( (No spergfits allowed)  (Read 5134976 times)

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nudemacusers

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I started scrolling and I gave up and quit. So much intellectually dishonest conversation in there. This is why I gave my ps3 to a friend. :/
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I believe he is raised elsewhere though. His knowledge about the Swedish society is quite limited. Today I had to explain the basics of our court system to him.

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Is anyone surprised at this point when some enthusiast press member appears a bit dim?

I don't understand why they keep going in circles with this Kotaku dude. Do they also watch iJustine play games on youtube and send her intricate walk-through guides and tell her where and how she fucked up?

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545600
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=55100916&postcount=2

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Wait until they discover B&W photography. It's like instagram, but hardcore.

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Dragon's Crown sounds like one of those easy marks for people who want to act like they're critiquing games from a "why can't they have better representations of women" outraged POV. Frankly there are better campaigns to be waging. Sigh.

Seems every character is some over the top homage to fantasy art.

nudemacusers

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I don't understand why they keep going in circles with this Kotaku dude. Do they also watch iJustine play games on youtube and send her intricate walk-through guides and tell her where and how she fucked up?
You probably don't want to investigate the answer to this.
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Dragon's Crown sounds like one of those easy marks for people who want to act like they're critiquing games from a "why can't they have better representations of women" outraged POV. Frankly there are better campaigns to be waging. Sigh.

Seems every character is some over the top homage to fantasy art.

Agreed, and this kind of thing only discredits the movement it's trying to further. It's justification for all the dummies who scoff at legitimate arguments.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 09:02:25 PM by king of the internet »

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On the other hand Vanillaware has made some truly abysmal games so I don't mind anyone shitting on them, no matter how unwarranted.
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Dragon's Crown sounds like one of those easy marks for people who want to act like they're critiquing games from a "why can't they have better representations of women" outraged POV. Frankly there are better campaigns to be waging. Sigh.

Seems every character is some over the top homage to fantasy art.

pretty much. which is why i cant see why everyone is butthurt when most of the characters are over-exaggerated

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On the other hand Vanillaware has made some truly abysmal games so I don't mind anyone shitting on them, no matter how unwarranted.

On the other other hand, if I've gotta play a Vanillaware game, I'd rather play one with big titty bitches.
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Dragon's Crown sounds like one of those easy marks for people who want to act like they're critiquing games from a "why can't they have better representations of women" outraged POV. Frankly there are better campaigns to be waging. Sigh.

Seems every character is some over the top homage to fantasy art.

pretty much. which is why i cant see why everyone is butthurt when most of the characters are over-exaggerated

It's Bayonetta all over again. To be completely frank I care much less about skanky clothes than inept stereotypical mentally handicapped weak ass characters or the degradation of once strong female characters into whiny crybabies. Shit like Dragon's Crown and Bayo is low hanging fruit (if it can even be called fruit at all) for assholes who want to pretend they give a damn about the alienation of women in gaming.

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On the other hand Vanillaware has made some truly abysmal games so I don't mind anyone shitting on them, no matter how unwarranted.

On the other other hand, if I've gotta play a Vanillaware game, I'd rather play one with big titty bitches.
Why not do neither?
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Just noticed scar tissue's unbanned

how long before he mongs up a thread :beli

Did he bump that MRA thread yet?

Google glass threads are getting more and more unbearable. You're like some anti-technological grandpa if you're not enthused by the idea.
It's definitely a cool idea, but the fact is you're gonna  be a fucking weirdo if you're one of the first distinguished black fellows to own one of those. Same with the Oculus Rift, and in the recent past, cellphones. The fact is, wearable computing is the near future and this is more palatable than getting a chip implant in your brain at least so why the fuck not right.

But you will eventually own one of these or some equivalent. I can guarantee it like Mens Wearhouse :smugfavre

Cellphones the domain of weirdos? In the late 80's - early 90's when they were still nascent I always felt they were more the domain of yuppie businessmen if anything.
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On the other hand Vanillaware has made some truly abysmal games so I don't mind anyone shitting on them, no matter how unwarranted.

On the other other hand, if I've gotta play a Vanillaware game, I'd rather play one with big titty bitches.
Why not do neither?

I'll admit it's not high on my list.
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Just noticed scar tissue's unbanned

how long before he mongs up a thread :beli

Did he bump that MRA thread yet?

Google glass threads are getting more and more unbearable. You're like some anti-technological grandpa if you're not enthused by the idea.
It's definitely a cool idea, but the fact is you're gonna  be a fucking weirdo if you're one of the first distinguished black fellows to own one of those. Same with the Oculus Rift, and in the recent past, cellphones. The fact is, wearable computing is the near future and this is more palatable than getting a chip implant in your brain at least so why the fuck not right.

But you will eventually own one of these or some equivalent. I can guarantee it like Mens Wearhouse :smugfavre

Cellphones the domain of weirdos? In the late 80's - early 90's when they were still nascent I always felt they were more the domain of yuppie businessmen if anything.
If I dont get shafted by google due to region once again, I'll be having me some sweet glass near launch.

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On the other hand Vanillaware has made some truly abysmal games so I don't mind anyone shitting on them, no matter how unwarranted.

On the other other hand, if I've gotta play a Vanillaware game, I'd rather play one with big titty bitches.
Forget the titties, to my knowledge there hasn't ever been a game that resembles old Capcom D&D this much. This is pretty much deep inside my gameplay bonerzone.

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Am I the only one who misread the recent Dragon Crown OP and thought the bear gods' orgy was in the game? I thought they looked phenomenal, no joke, no homo. They should be a DLC boss/character(s).
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High school? Probably much closer to the truth than you like. In regards to the people you're getting worked up about, I mean.

hey, that's not how argumentation works.   but that's still a more sound argument than Schreir's white knighting. too bad the thread got locked before he posted.
He did sound off in the Games Journalism thread. Didn't read any of it though.

I'm not as angry as I sound, I'm just watching Daria and the thread is coming off like one of the conversations outside of Daria/Jane.

I was watching Daria the other week. I am totally Jane. I need to get more piercings.
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Am I the only one who misread the recent Dragon Crown OP and thought the bear gods' orgy was in the game? I thought they looked phenomenal, no joke, no homo. They should be a DLC boss/character(s).
Would be amazing if they are a series of (optional) boss(es) like the twin elves in Shadow over Mystara :bow




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Trent Strong is one of those posters who blur the lines between trolling and distinguished mentally-challenged.

Don Flamenco

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Dragon's Crown sounds like one of those easy marks for people who want to act like they're critiquing games from a "why can't they have better representations of women" outraged POV. Frankly there are better campaigns to be waging. Sigh.

Seems every character is some over the top homage to fantasy art.



exactly.  and I'm gonna go ahead and say it's because Japanese devs are an easy target that may not necessarily notice.

edit:  his response is exactly what I predicted. 

"no but look, there IS sexism in the industry and its a major problem!  Just look at booth babes and harassment, etc. etc. now get off my back."  Nothing new to say at all and his article is about as generic as it gets.  dude is not thinking critically about the subject at all, just covering his ass under the pretense of a "discussion"  ::) 

wake me up when Kotaku starts naming names that aren't characters in Japanese video games made by devs who wouldn't even be able to read their article in English.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 07:56:53 PM by Don Flamenco »

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Dragon's Crown sounds like one of those easy marks for people who want to act like they're critiquing games from a "why can't they have better representations of women" outraged POV. Frankly there are better campaigns to be waging. Sigh.

Seems every character is some over the top homage to fantasy art.



exactly.  and I'm gonna go ahead and say it's because Japanese devs are an easy target that may not necessarily notice.

edit:  his response is exactly what I predicted. 

"no but look, there IS sexism in the industry and its a major problem!  Just look at booth babes and harassment, etc. etc. now get off my back."  Nothing new to say at all and his article is about as generic as it gets.  dude is not thinking critically about the subject at all, just covering his ass under the pretense of a "discussion"  ::) 

wake me up when Kotaku starts naming names that aren't characters in Japanese video games made by devs who wouldn't even be able to read their article in English.

It's also a bunch of men getting offended on our behalf telling everyone that this is the pinnacle of sexism in the industry. To those dudes I say: fuck you and thanks for being the fodder in every argument I happen to have about sexism in the industry. Can't have a real discussion about this shit because these guys are getting pissy about fucking nothing and putting others on the defensive.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 08:16:19 PM by Needs More Cowbell »

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I don't find dragons crown sexist. However I do find the design for the witch to be really gross. :yeshrug
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I don't find dragons crown sexist. However I do find the design for the witch to be really gross. :yeshrug

Pretty much but Games Journalists looking to start some shit aren't going to bother with nuance or more insidious pervasive issues.

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someone needs to protect the small and weak.
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I don't find dragons crown sexist. However I do find the design for the witch to be really gross. :yeshrug

Pretty much but Games Journalists looking to start some shit aren't going to bother with nuance or more insidious pervasive issues.


yeah, if they gave a fuck, they'd start digging and looking at wage equality, hiring practices, any actual incidents to pull out from under the rug.  I wanna hear about CliffyB raffling off secretary positions based on who gives the best blow job, not about paid booth babes for the 100000000000000th time.  But then Cliffy would attempt to murder the author's reputation and then the author would be uncomfortable, so no actual work gets done.

I'm not saying the onus is on kotaku to write that kind of article (it's on whoever is privy to the info), but fuck off with the monthly japanese character call-outs coupled with "and there's booth babes and stuff at cons."
« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 08:47:58 PM by Don Flamenco »

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 :piss Gaming "journalism" :piss2

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Yeah, it's just a bunch of manchild losers attempting to be all deep and shit.
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lol

i mean, i can't be the only one finding it funny that devo's pissed about someone flying off the handle over a minor issue that may or may not be sexism, right

dragon's crown probably wasn't designed in a sexist way.  it's definitely marketing itself with an exploitative angle, at least in japan.  the art style is pretty fucking juvenile all around, but hey, video games.  half the industry wants to "grow up" so they can be like their heroes in hollywood, the other half is pretty content sticking with children's fare and/or teenage male power fantasies because they just wanna make/play fun games.  the media generally falls into the first half.

in the end, it's a lot of fuss about a game that is going to be shitty and sell 50k copies.  at least with bayonetta, there was one of the best directors in the industry doing a spiritual follow-up to his most popular game behind all the noise.  here, it's just a dumb, shallow game on a system nobody cares about.  if it wants to have a weird-ass art style, giver.  it's about as important to the industry as the colour of himu's shirt today is to national defence strategy.

Don't be a jerk dude I've argued before that sexualization isn't a big deal if there is some variety to characters and depth.

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again, it's amusing to me.  i think a lot of people would agree you've gone off on a MY GENDER rant over trifles before, but now you're wagging your finger at other people for it.  if'n that makes me a jerk, well, you're not the first to call me one, and i doubt you'll be the last.

and if you're hoping for depth in a vanillaware game, man, have i got some bad news for you

I'm not hoping for depth in that game I'm merely saying wagging a finger at this kind of game is a joke. When striving for some real solutions to insidious problems and workplace issues it makes it a chore to deal with people running off and screaming sexism at a game like this.

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There's gender portrayal issues and sexism issues within the industry, as well as just basic character design development issues within the industry.  It's an interesting subject to at least discuss the good and bad, and the possible ways to improve things.

The only problem with it all is that any discussion about it dissolves into two fuckwad parties fighting each other over the keys to the secret clubhouse. Especially on GAF.

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http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=545880&page=100000#footer

The guy gets his laptop with 5 years of his PhD thesis work saved on it stolen and made the mistake of not backing it up -> blame the victim.

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GAF is down again, you gotta be kidding me Evilore. :why
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Momo

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Not even vanillaware can fuck up the Capcom D&D template. It's unpossible.

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edit: Seriously though.

What the fuck, man.  :noah

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Got perma'd on GAF for disagreeing with the virgin masses. Do I pick up my participation pin here?
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Oh God I remember when Pepe Le Pew was declared politically incorrect :tocry My childhood was in shambles
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most of those cartoons were chock full of racist stereotypes pushed by that evil cunt Walt Disney, no shame throwing that in the trash

:beli I know you're not talking shit about Loony Toons. That's WB, not Disney.
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most of those cartoons were chock full of racist stereotypes pushed by that evil cunt Walt Disney, no shame throwing that in the trash

:beli I know you're not talking shit about Loony Toons. That's WB, not Disney.
Actually, yes I am as well. That racist cac Tex Avery had no shame in any of the bullshit he made, he was definitely a bigot. As a little CACling yourself you probably didnt notice how :what any of this was. Let me refresh your memory. Theres a reason a lot of those old cartoons were banned or shelved or put away. A lot of them were little more than propaganda, blatant racism aside.

http://www.the-coli.com/higher-learning/69468-racist-cartoons-back-day-bugs-bunny-racist.html#.UXfU-kq7egs
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I noticed. I just don't care. Shit is funny and if someone wants to feel anal anguish over some racism in an old school cartoon, made when such attitudes were acceptable, then that is their problem

Also this site is wrong by cacs, as is most of the internet and the real world

In essence:
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thats all good and fine as long as you understand that you cant dance
I'll accept because we get all the hot, successful chocolate hoskies
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I'd fuck Ava Devine up to about...2011. Amy Reid, Madison Ivy, Sienna West, Shyla Stylez, Carmella Bing in their prime...all those bitches on the list.

EDIT: Daphne Rosen :noah Bigg titted attractive Jewish woman.
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The strap-on video Ava Devine did with Sandra Romain is great. Can't hate on the lady after that.

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I always feel left out of porn discussions cos I have no idea who any of these people are  :'(
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I always feel left out of porn discussions cos I have no idea who any of these people are  :'(

Good lord. Go to Xvideos, type in Shyla Stylez and fucking eat :lawd
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I have no idea why people know dozens of porn stars by name. Some people on GAF seem to have porn waifus

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I have no idea why people know dozens of porn stars by name. Some people on GAF seem to have porn waifus (Image removed from quote.)

This observation never made sense to me. I guess if only ol' fucking gets you off then it is different, but there are some seriously hot women that know what they're doing in the porn game. These are hoskies that you're gonna want to see a lot more of, and thus remember their name.

You never saw a chick you wanted to see more of?
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Well yeah but knowing 30+ porn stars by name and not only that, knowing all sorts of weird info about them and being able to name everyone they've ever had sex with on film and knowing all of their movies by name and all of this stuff is just so weird to me. I've never stanned for anyone so much that I'd know all sorts of useless info about them but if I'd have to stan for someone then it definitely wouldn't be a porn star. I guess I can't relate to people who obsess over something to that degree. Maybe I'm missing out lol.

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Yeah I agree with that. I actually like to know less about my hoskies. It was harder to jack off to Asa after learning about what a spoiled money grubbing whorebag she is, or that Mariah Milano has herpes.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=55142864&postcount=4296

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Haha. I just googled her and she's hot. I'm glad I don't have a 'type' or whatever malfunction that guy has.

Polari

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I can understand the criticism. She has a face a bit like a groper fish. Still waaaaay out of the league of anyone who posts on internet forums though.

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Groper fish? :childplease

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When I saw the title for the Sega Spectrum thread, I thought it was a clever insult to help categorize how distinguished mentally-challenged some of their fans were.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=543477

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