People predicting the demise of baseball seem to forget that there will always be new old people.
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I have never worked as a waiter, barista, bartender, or salesperson.
I have never lied about my sexuality
What should an orphan mark for those?
buzzfeed polls are only good for finding out which movie relationship you are or what kind of 80s sitcom star you would be. they're overshooting their place with this one.although maybe it was worth it afterallhttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=107957466&postcount=359
So what's the chance that in 10-20 years there will be a massive rebellion against current 2010's social justice politics as we saw in the 80's? Will this backfire in the end?
All movements hardcores push past the acceptable bounds of society and then dig in rather than moderate.
I've been holding off posting this for a while, as I realize regardless of what I post here, I will ironically be ostracized by some. That being said, I feel I have a valid point that is not often considered when discussing bigotry. Especially in the gaming community which continues to grow out of a straight white male dominated subculture as more people of color, sex, and diverse sexual preference join the ranks. I'm going to start this off by saying these are observations I have made over many years amongst a diverse group of friends. I also wan't to say that in and of itself, does not make me immune to racism or sexism. Just because I have friends, who are black, or women, or middle eastern etc, does not naturally make me less racist/sexist then those without. But I digress. My observations may have been made over many years, but most recently came to a head while playing an MMO(WOW) in a guild that preaches inclusivity (In terms of sex, sexual preference, and race) in one of the most exclusive pastimes in gaming. Heroic raiding. On the surface this seems great, a guild with no bias against people who are different than them, in an environment of skill that show's equality? Sign me up! This is where things fall apart. Much like the political and media arena. Many online communities have a ZERO tolerance policy against racism/sexism. This is to protect people from being shunned because of their race, sex and or beliefs. Because sadly we still live in a society where people need to be protected from those who seek to do others harm based on their differences. However, in my opinion the same policy meant to protect those people also hampers the growth of the mentality of equal treatment, by insisting there are people that need protection and are therefore Inherently DIFFERENT, and thus should be treated so respectively. This also creates a fear of reprisal so great that when confronting issues that arise within those certain sub groups people are often unwilling to act for fear of being called racist or sexist. Or people who think they are somehow being heroic, or championing inequality by allowing standards to become lax for specific people.For instance, we have a few female members, and a few African American members in our guild. Some of which are vying for spots in different raid teams both normal and heroic. I consider recruitment in raiding as being akin to hiring in the job market. Many of them are incredibly skilled and have earned their spots over everyone else. But a few, simply put are there to be carried. This in turn has caused other, more qualified people in our guild to have to sit out entirely. When I brought this up with the lacking members, I and others offered to help them hone their skills. A few accepted and have since excelled. The other's have blown us off and have only marginally increased in skill. Thus are consistently a handicap to the raids success. So, as a lead, I brought it up with the other officers and the guild leader. They promptly removed the low skilled white male members who had not shown improvement, but kept both of the other people who were far less skilled, than the aforementioned white members. When I asked the guild leaders why they hadn't removed all of the weak members, they only had convoluted answers about showing promise. Which I know is bullshit as I worked with both of them. A few officers agreed, the others stayed quiet, and the guild lead basically told me at this point he would not show clemency if I pushed the issue further. THIS IS BIGOTRY. Not against the white males (That is a byproduct imo), but against the the members who they chose to include based on sex and race. By cultivating the concept in our guild that these members were somehow not held by the same standards as their peers, and were off limits to scrutiny. Innately means, you do not see them as your peers, and is that not sexism/racism?The problem is I see this everywhere, especially in gaming. People rush to the aid of people they feel are weaker, or oppressed, in virtue completely ignoring those right under their noses who are just as worthy of their help because they don't fit within the spectrum of needing protection. I also see a vast amount of people in that situation taking full advantage of this knowledge. In reference to the guild thing, If I felt like I was a detriment to the raid group, or couldn't hold my weight. I would feel highly guilty and do my best to improve (Which I do anyways, any chance it improve is good imo). Yet many people regardless of color, are perfectly happy getting things handed to them. Normally this is not an issue as we can just say sorry, you aren't able to carry your share so you need it step out. But when we create a barrier based on sex/race, that essentially says, "Hey you can't treat this person the same way as that person" which just encourages racist/sexist thought as some people begin to think that is just natural, and other's begin to feel resentment towards people who were given preference.Even if we as people become more "Accepting" of diverse peoples. Acceptance in this fashion is only a facade that is easily broken. Accepting someone as your equal, does not mean you should change your standards to meet that person, or else, you inherently are recognizing that person is in fact not your equal. If we choose to stay quiet for fear of reprisal in situations we know bother us, then how does anything get better? Aren't we just doing patch jobs and covering up the issue? To me it seems in mind with our societies view of quick answers to complicated issues. Akin to that of giving someone with depression medicine to balance them out, but not promoting the need for counseling to resolve the deeper issues. I don't see the issue of inequality improving in gaming, In fact in some ways I see it getting worse. We continue to pander to certain behaviors both inside and outside of gaming under the guise of equality. People are people, if you won't treat everyone the same, then why not stop lying to yourself and admit you are in fact biased, then work from there? I know I'm biased, it sucks to say it, but I am jaded against certain types of people, especially in gaming. Like unskilled twitch streamers, especially female, I have to force myself to consider they aren't just there for money, and possibly for the love of gaming. I know that I am biased though, and so I am aware, and work at improving my perception. But I feel like too many people just pretend that it doesn't bother them.I realize most of this is just stream of consciousness and Ill organized, but I hope I got my opinion across without sounding too idiotic. This is kind of just a frustrated rant at the state of gaming/inequality as it presently is.
Yeah, America's abortion politics are pretty fucked right now.I think America will probably always be like this due to its Puritanical roots. It invades almost every element of the culture to some degree. Not to say it doesn't exist in other countries.
isms, in my opinion, are not good. a person should not believe in an ism, they should believe in themself. i quote john lennon "i don't believe in beatles, i just believe in me". good point there. after all, he was the walrus.
It's not like these tumblr stupid fucks are treating white males as the enemy for years now being as, if not more, divisive than conservatives or making assumptions and talking about privilege even though most of us are in the same boat as the less "privileged". It's also not like they're actively generalizing based on skin colour and sexuality. It seems that the American corporate system has found a new way to distract the youth while they're pillaging your country, but honestly I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm done feeling sorry for these ignorant propaganda victims who think they're serving a cause while in reality they're serving a system that thrives on the divide and conquer strategy.
I love drinking white dude tears about how they're the victim in the evening. Shit is like vodka, goes with damn near any liquid. I like my white man tears mixed with chocolate milk.
There's a special privilege in denying discrimination, harassment and violence against minorities because it's "all about class now what are you whining about, you're buying into their divide and conquer strategy!"
Yeah dude. Women and racial minorities don't make less than white men. As a transgender woman of color, I have a 1 in 12 chance of being murdered. So nice to know that we are all on the same boat! (Image removed from quote.)
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 12, 2014, 11:27:08 PMYeah dude. Women and racial minorities don't make less than white men. As a transgender woman of color, I have a 1 in 12 chance of being murdered. So nice to know that we are all on the same boat! (Image removed from quote.)1 in 12 isn't too bad
Check your being alive privilege please himu.
I'm a black male aged 27 and can read and write. I've beaten the odds
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 11:36:31 PMI'm a black male aged 27 and can read and write. I've beaten the odds How many cavities tho
Are you trying to make some kind of point with this awful comparison? Class privilege is a fact, the ruling class has better education, health care, quality of life and the last couple of decades pretty much control the "democratic" system. It's not some stupid generalization angsty teens concocted on tumblr, it''s an observable universal fact.
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 12, 2014, 11:37:07 PMQuote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 11:36:31 PMI'm a black male aged 27 and can read and write. I've beaten the odds How many cavities tho1.
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 11:40:11 PMQuote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 12, 2014, 11:37:07 PMQuote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 11:36:31 PMI'm a black male aged 27 and can read and write. I've beaten the odds How many cavities tho1.(Image removed from quote.)
A minority's privilege is not being privileged.
Atramental, do you still have that tumblr privilege comic? That was the funniest shit
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Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 12, 2014, 11:42:16 PMQuote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 11:40:11 PMQuote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on April 12, 2014, 11:37:07 PMQuote from: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2014, 11:36:31 PMI'm a black male aged 27 and can read and write. I've beaten the odds How many cavities tho1.(Image removed from quote.)Didn't have pop (fuck you "soda" people) in the house until I went to college.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=107950122#post107950122http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=107959311&postcount=7436
If you say 'pop' you're a ponce. Pop is music. Soda is made with soda water, ergo it's soda. You lawst.
Country folk in Tejas call soda 'coke', but everyone I grew up with called it soda.
