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[Flannel Boy]

Mario Kart is 1080p/60fps?

http://playeressence.com/e3-2013-nintendo-announces-mario-kart-8-for-wii-u-runs-in-1080p-60fps-first-details-and-trailer-here/

I can't tell if you are an idiot or just polish. 

#t=00m58s

[Cerveza mas fina]

The first cut is the deepest demi, I apparently still hope against knowing better Nintendo will "come around"

[ToxicAdam]

WWHD notes:

 Triforce hunt has been revamped
- You can map up to 8 items on buttons
- Ocean is being loaded at once
- New boat-speed ability unlockable
- supports Off TV play
- aiming with the gyroscope

[Tasty]

http://playeressence.com/e3-2013-nintendo-announces-mario-kart-8-for-wii-u-runs-in-1080p-60fps-first-details-and-trailer-here/

 

WWHD notes:

 Triforce hunt has been revamped
- You can map up to 8 items on buttons
- Ocean is being loaded at once
- New boat-speed ability unlockable
- supports Off TV play
- aiming with the gyroscope

I knew that boat speed thing was new but didn't want to get excited cause I thought maybe the original had it.

[Father_Brain]

To me, the biggest problem with Nintendo right now can be highlighted by the single example of Donkey Kong Country. X might end up fitting the bill, but if there was one company that could make something that isn't in Nintendo's wheelhouse and make it look surprisingly good for the hardware, it was Retro. But what are they doing instead? Another fucking Donkey Kong game. Granted, I'm sure it'll be a very good 2D platformer, but I don't think anyone's looking at the lineup for the Wii U going "you know what this console needs? More platformers."

Bingo. By far the biggest disappointment for me.

[Oblivion]

Mario Kart is 1080p/60fps?

http://playeressence.com/e3-2013-nintendo-announces-mario-kart-8-for-wii-u-runs-in-1080p-60fps-first-details-and-trailer-here/

Wow. Color me impressed. Granted, sure the Wii-U is powerful enough to achieve such a thing without much issue, but this is Nintendo we're talking about so I'm pleasantly surprised.

[Madrun Badrun]

  I just want make a polish joke

Saying polish this or that is just as racist as calling people the N word, and just as stupid arvie. You're better then that.

I've been shamed

To me, the biggest problem with Nintendo right now can be highlighted by the single example of Donkey Kong Country. X might end up fitting the bill, but if there was one company that could make something that isn't in Nintendo's wheelhouse and make it look surprisingly good for the hardware, it was Retro. But what are they doing instead? Another fucking Donkey Kong game. Granted, I'm sure it'll be a very good 2D platformer, but I don't think anyone's looking at the lineup for the Wii U going "you know what this console needs? More platformers."

I feel like the greatest problem is Nintendo is short by one or two dev teams and have been since Rare feel apart.  They managed to stumble by the GC era with SK and having sega do F-zero but they really shouldn't need to be having retro do something like this DK just so they can get more games out there. 

[treythemovie]

To me, the biggest problem with Nintendo right now can be highlighted by the single example of Donkey Kong Country. X might end up fitting the bill, but if there was one company that could make something that isn't in Nintendo's wheelhouse and make it look surprisingly good for the hardware, it was Retro. But what are they doing instead? Another fucking Donkey Kong game. Granted, I'm sure it'll be a very good 2D platformer, but I don't think anyone's looking at the lineup for the Wii U going "you know what this console needs? More platformers."

Either A) Nintendo still doesn't trust their westerns to do anything, or B) more talent has left Retro than we have realized, or C) Nintendo realized their troubled state ages ago and decided they needed Retro's game this holiday even if it meant making more Donkey Kong.

It's probably all 3.

[TakingBackSunday]

so wait, they revamp the trifoce shit but they don't add the dungeon that was scrapped after the forbidden forest?

fuck this gay earth

[Madrun Badrun]

To me, the biggest problem with Nintendo right now can be highlighted by the single example of Donkey Kong Country. X might end up fitting the bill, but if there was one company that could make something that isn't in Nintendo's wheelhouse and make it look surprisingly good for the hardware, it was Retro. But what are they doing instead? Another fucking Donkey Kong game. Granted, I'm sure it'll be a very good 2D platformer, but I don't think anyone's looking at the lineup for the Wii U going "you know what this console needs? More platformers."

Either A) Nintendo still doesn't trust their westerns to do anything, or B) more talent has left Retro than we have realized, or C) Nintendo realized their troubled state ages ago and decided they needed Retro's game this holiday even if it meant making more Donkey Kong.

It's probably all 3.

True.  Nintendo has been pretty good at knowing when devs go bad.  They tossed out Rare and SK at good times.

[Flannel Boy]

To me, the biggest problem with Nintendo right now can be highlighted by the single example of Donkey Kong Country. X might end up fitting the bill, but if there was one company that could make something that isn't in Nintendo's wheelhouse and make it look surprisingly good for the hardware, it was Retro. But what are they doing instead? Another fucking Donkey Kong game. Granted, I'm sure it'll be a very good 2D platformer, but I don't think anyone's looking at the lineup for the Wii U going "you know what this console needs? More platformers."

Bingo. By far the biggest disappointment for me.

This screenshot is appropriate:

Poor Samus and Mega Man.

[Steve Contra]

From that conference I see Nintendo is desperately courting the same people that made the Gamecube a smash hit.

[magus]

http://kotaku.com/breaking-smash-bros-news-out-of-nintendos-e3-booth-512667733

bitter

"ahahahah that's a pretty funny joke"

"wait... that's real? "

[brob]

I was positively surprised that they added a Animal Crossing character to smash, but a wii fit character? that's the shit. like omg. Smash U is gonna get bought hella hard.




Hope the game is fun, cus it's this and bayo for me at the moment.

[Flannel Boy]

From that conference I see Nintendo is desperately courting the same people that made the Gamecube a smash hit.

Then they better make the Wii U $99 and give away WW and a Metroid game.

[Oblivion]

Mega Man looks like a tard.

so wait, they revamp the trifoce shit but they don't add the dungeon that was scrapped after the forbidden forest?

fuck this gay earth

In all likelihood, whatever dungeons were remaining went to followup Zelda games. You don't think Nintendo's just gonna sit on these dungeons for like a decade in the hopes of adding it onto a remake do you?

[Phoenix Dark]

IIRC, Miyamoto or Iwata said that Nintendo was hiring outside developers who had experience doing HD games to teach their  own employees.

they also said they were adding new buildings/space for extra development. last year

[cool breeze]

Is Mario 60fps 1080p?  I'm happy seeing all these console games running 60fps 1080p this E3.  I know it won't last :'(

[treythemovie]

To me, the biggest problem with Nintendo right now can be highlighted by the single example of Donkey Kong Country. X might end up fitting the bill, but if there was one company that could make something that isn't in Nintendo's wheelhouse and make it look surprisingly good for the hardware, it was Retro. But what are they doing instead? Another fucking Donkey Kong game. Granted, I'm sure it'll be a very good 2D platformer, but I don't think anyone's looking at the lineup for the Wii U going "you know what this console needs? More platformers."

Either A) Nintendo still doesn't trust their westerns to do anything, or B) more talent has left Retro than we have realized, or C) Nintendo realized their troubled state ages ago and decided they needed Retro's game this holiday even if it meant making more Donkey Kong.

It's probably all 3.

True.  Nintendo has been pretty good at knowing when devs go bad.  They tossed out Rare and SK at good times.

I wouldn't say Retro has gone bad. Nintendo's just unwilling or unable to expend the time/resources to keep them as a high quality one. They needed a title too badly this holiday to let them work on anything else. And there's no way Retro has spent 3 years on Donkey Kong Country 2 (..5?) unless they had a previous project or two that got cancelled. I imagine Nintendo has greatly downplayed  how much outsourcing they had Retro do on titles like Mario Kart 7 (and 8?). And its the same with the rest of their western devs too.

Its like Nintendo wants (needs) to move to an Ubisoft style of global development, but is unwilling to sacrifice the developer vision to do so.

[Shaka Khan]

Arvie, you're an ok dude, but if you start calling me names I can link you some posts of yours from the relationship thread so we can settle who the idiot is.

Holy shit, what a venomous thing to say.

[Tasty]

Holy shit at all the people shitting on DKC2. GTFO you philistines. Game looks AWESOME. Probably the best and freshest feeling non-X game they showed.

[Brehvolution]

Poor Samus and Mega Man.

Poor jaggy grass.

[Madrun Badrun]

Arvie, you're an ok dude, but if you start calling me names I can link you some posts of yours from the relationship thread so we can settle who the idiot is.

Holy shit, what a venomous thing to say.

No I, was being an ass and deserved that.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Retro is basically a coding branch at this point akin to Monster games and Next Level games.  The original creative directors have moved on, and maybe now people will realise that Retro's role is to do what they're overseers command with a lot of supervision.

[Steve Youngblood]

Holy shit at all the people shitting on DKC2. GTFO you philistines. Game looks AWESOME. Probably the best and freshest feeling non-X game they showed.

It's just not what the console needs right now. It's not a system seller. Further, it's a crowded genre. We got New Super Mario last November, New Super Luigi is coming out soon, there's Rayman coming in September, and on the 3D platformer front, we've got 3D Mario in December, and an exclusive 3D Sonic platformer coming out as well. This game may well be really fun, but it's not going to put asses in the seats during a time when Nintendo desperately needs some reason for people to be excited about this machine. Donkey Kong Country is not the Retro game I wanted Nintendo to have as their flagship title to compete against new hardware launches.

[mjemirzian]

Lager, why are you catching feelings over Nintendo? Cmon man.

Wait, it's not just an elaborate troll?

[magus]

this image sum nintendo pretty nicely

[Shaka Khan]

Arvie, you're an ok dude, but if you start calling me names I can link you some posts of yours from the relationship thread so we can settle who the idiot is.

Holy shit, what a venomous thing to say.

No I, was being an ass and deserved that.

Because you made a polish joke you deserve being threatened by sensitive personal information you shared in the past? How about retaliating with Canadian jokes?! They're funnier, whereas even joking about poles is evidently worthless.

[ToxicAdam]

so wait, they revamp the trifoce shit but they don't add the dungeon that was scrapped after the forbidden forest?

fuck this gay earth

I've played though WW about 6 times, I never once played it and thought "boy, I wish there were more dungeons". That's the kind of shit that made me get tired of SS at the end. "Fuck, another dungeon?"

They just need to space out that triforce hunt so your not looking for 6-7 of them consecutively. Plus do away with the need to grind for cash to pay off Tingle to translate maps.

 

[bork]

I don't see why people are hating on the Wii Fit chick.  These crossover games should have all kinds of crazy fucking characters in them.

[Oblivion]

Guys, it's either a new Donkey Kong or new Metroid Prime.

TAKE YOUR PICK

[Cerveza mas fina]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

X: are you stupid or just n**** f**
Y: uuh you cant get laid
Judge: Wow Y you're so going to jail

NEVER EVER

[Steve Contra]

Guys, it's either a new Donkey Kong or new Metroid Prime.

TAKE YOUR PICK

Nobody wins :'(

[Steve Youngblood]

Guys, it's either a new Donkey Kong or new Metroid Prime.

TAKE YOUR PICK

Metroid Prime would be the easy choice there for me.

[mjemirzian]

Welp.. time to forget Wii U exists for at least another year.

I'll be playing my 3DS if I need a Nintendo fix in the meantime.

[bork]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

Being Polish is a race? 

[EmCeeGrammar]

Holy shit at all the people shitting on DKC2. GTFO you philistines. Game looks AWESOME. Probably the best and freshest feeling non-X game they showed.

It's just not what the console needs right now. It's not a system seller. Further, it's a crowded genre. We got New Super Mario last November, New Super Luigi is coming out soon, there's Rayman coming in September, and on the 3D platformer front, we've got 3D Mario in December, and an exclusive 3D Sonic platformer coming out as well. This game may well be really fun, but it's not going to put asses in the seats during a time when Nintendo desperately needs some reason for people to be excited about this machine. Donkey Kong Country is not the Retro game I wanted Nintendo to have as their flagship title to compete against new hardware launches.

The last donkey kong was retro's largest seller ever, and I'm not convinced that Nintendo has any ideas as groundbreaking as CoD4 was to rope in a new crowd of consumers.  Realistically, if we were talking about retro being put to task of making the console relevant, it would be developing something like Wii Sports ala what Rare has been marginalized to these days.

[Don Flamenco]

WWHD notes:

 Triforce hunt has been revamped
- You can map up to 8 items on buttons
- Ocean is being loaded at once
- New boat-speed ability unlockable
- supports Off TV play
- aiming with the gyroscope

those are some good reasons to buy it.   the graphical upgrade is ass, but they listened about the gameplay stuff. 

[magus]

I don't see why people are hating on the Wii Fit chick.  These crossover games should have all kinds of crazy fucking characters in them.

i'd like to see character that are relevant in smash bros,tough i guess if you have to pick between the D-- mario character like daisy and birdo or something totaly stupid i'd rather pick option B



casual gaming defeating good game like megaman and metroid,sounds about right!

[Tasty]

It's just not what the console needs right now. It's not a system seller.

So? It looks amazing and will probably be one of the best platformers of the past five years. DKCR was amazing but there's lots of room for expansion and improvement, which this game looks to be making.

Further, it's a crowded genre.

GTFO. Crowded my ass. This game is crowded like PC adventure games are crowded. I mean sure, TellTale is cranking them out regularly but it's still underserved.

Donkey Kong Country is not the Retro game I wanted Nintendo to have as their flagship title to compete against new hardware launches.

There we go.



"Waaaaaaaaaah I didn't get the grimdark Retro game I wanted!"

Metroid Prime would be the easy choice there for me.

Because first person shooters aren't crowded?

[Shaka Khan]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

X: are you stupid or just n**** f**
T: uuh you cant get laid
Judge: Wow Y you're so going to jail

NEVER EVER

Even though I still think you should fight pole jokes with canuck jokes, a general "you can't get laid" joke is more appropriate than "digging stuff from the relationship thread to make you look like an idiot." Don't be so contemptuous, breh. That's the opposite of joking around.

[EmCeeGrammar]

I used wii fit enough to recognise her moveset and what yoga poses they correspond to.  My new waifu.

[Steve Contra]

Retro sucks anyway.  Remember Metroid Prime?  Boy was that a piece of shit.

[Steve Youngblood]

Holy shit at all the people shitting on DKC2. GTFO you philistines. Game looks AWESOME. Probably the best and freshest feeling non-X game they showed.

It's just not what the console needs right now. It's not a system seller. Further, it's a crowded genre. We got New Super Mario last November, New Super Luigi is coming out soon, there's Rayman coming in September, and on the 3D platformer front, we've got 3D Mario in December, and an exclusive 3D Sonic platformer coming out as well. This game may well be really fun, but it's not going to put asses in the seats during a time when Nintendo desperately needs some reason for people to be excited about this machine. Donkey Kong Country is not the Retro game I wanted Nintendo to have as their flagship title to compete against new hardware launches.

The last donkey kong was retro's largest seller ever, and I'm not convinced that Nintendo has any ideas as groundbreaking as CoD4 was to rope in a new crowd of consumers.  Realistically, if we were talking about retro being put to task of making the console relevant, it would be developing something like Wii Sports ala what Rare has been marginalized to these days.

I'm not necessarily speaking about the best move just in terms of Retro selling software in as much as I think they could have been put to quelling some of the hardware concerns. I think if anything was going to make this console not look outdated compared to the Xbox One and PS4 this holiday season, there was hope that it would be Retro's mystery project. Maybe it wouldn't have sold as well as Donkey Kong Country, but I honestly think the Retro could have done more good for the platform's image with something like a Metroid Prime 4. As is, all they can hang their hat on is "remember the nice things the guy from Criterion said about the system" and "hey, X will come out sometime next year."

[Steve Contra]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

X: are you stupid or just n**** f**
T: uuh you cant get laid
Judge: Wow Y you're so going to jail

NEVER EVER

Even though I still think you should fight pole jokes with canuck jokes, a general "you can't get laid" joke is more appropriate than "digging stuff from the relationship thread to make you look like an idiot." Don't be so contemptuous, breh. That's the opposite of joking around.

Yeah I mean making fun of each others nationalities is kind of a bore hallmark.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Look on the bright side. Retro ISNT making Eternal Darkness or fucking STARTROPICS.

[Tasty]

Retro is basically a coding branch at this point akin to Monster games and Next Level games.  The original creative directors have moved on, and maybe now people will realise that Retro's role is to do what they're overseers command with a lot of supervision.

The same Next Level that just made 3DS GOTY contender Luigi's Mansion?

[Madrun Badrun]

Arvie, you're an ok dude, but if you start calling me names I can link you some posts of yours from the relationship thread so we can settle who the idiot is.

Holy shit, what a venomous thing to say.

No I, was being an ass and deserved that.

Because you made a polish joke you deserve being threatened by sensitive personal information you shared in the past? How about retaliating with Canadian jokes?! They're funnier, whereas even joking about poles is evidently worthless.

I wouldn't say it was sensitive info, I wouldn't have posted anything I wasn't willing to be made fun of.  The problem with pole jokes is that there is a racial/nationality blur that isn't a part of Canadian jokes for example.  While I meant the joke to be on the level of a Canadian joke, it didn't work out that way.

[Flannel Boy]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

Being Polish is a race? 

A race to the bottom, apparently. 

[Oblivion]

Retro is basically a coding branch at this point akin to Monster games and Next Level games.  The original creative directors have moved on, and maybe now people will realise that Retro's role is to do what they're overseers command with a lot of supervision.

The same Next Level that just made 3DS GOTY contender Luigi's Mansion?

It's funny cause it's serious.

[Steve Contra]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

Being Polish is a race? 

A race to the bottom, apparently. 

Yeah but you're Canadian as well so we already know you won.

[Purple Filth]

i honestly thought Wii Fit lady was one of those item characters until I saw the trailer

 

[Shaka Khan]

Andy, I don't think the majority of people (here and elsewhere) are upset about DKC2 existing, just that Retro is behind it. That's even more justified considering all the rumors and speculations... that were admittedly mostly made up. 

[Tasty]

Retro is basically a coding branch at this point akin to Monster games and Next Level games.  The original creative directors have moved on, and maybe now people will realise that Retro's role is to do what they're overseers command with a lot of supervision.

The same Next Level that just made 3DS GOTY contender Luigi's Mansion?

It's funny cause it's serious.

I mean MH3U is better, but I can see a lot of people calling LM2 this year's best 3DS game.

[brob]

smash bros needs more characters that don't naturally translate to fighting game characters. megaman is easy, he comes from an action game where he has all sorts of attacks. Wii Fit Trainer (WFT) uses yoga poses as a martial art. Animal Crossing Villager digs for fossils and hits people's toes in the process and he pockets projectiles to help pay off his mortgage to Nook. Standing between those two Megaman looks like a desperate halfwit.

[Steve Youngblood]

Further, it's a crowded genre.

GTFO. Crowded my ass. This game is crowded like PC adventure games are crowded. I mean sure, TellTale is cranking them out regularly but it's still underserved.

Not on the Wii U it isn't.

Because first person shooters aren't crowded?

On the Wii U, particularly going forward? No. It's not crowded at all. Further, it's not like Metroid is supposed to be another Call of Duty/Halo type game.

[Madrun Badrun]

Look on the bright side. Retro ISNT making Eternal Darkness or fucking STARTROPICS.

I would have loved a Retro ED.  ED had a great concept with shitty execution. 

[Tasty]

Andy, I don't think the majority of people (here and elsewhere) are upset about DKC2 existing, just that Retro is behind it. That's even more justified considering all the rumors and speculations... that were admittedly mostly made up.

Really? I thought we heard two years ago they were doing DKCR2?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Uuuh so its ok to makes jokes about someones racial background (or sexual preferencae) but not about their relationship mishaps? that would never stand in a court of law.

X: are you stupid or just n**** f**
T: uuh you cant get laid
Judge: Wow Y you're so going to jail

NEVER EVER

Even though I still think you should fight pole jokes with canuck jokes, a general "you can't get laid" joke is more appropriate than "digging stuff from the relationship thread to make you look like an idiot." Don't be so contemptuous, breh. That's the opposite of joking around.

Maybe I would be more cool about it if it wasn't the same "joke" every single time. Hur dur I get it.

90% of this board is contemptuous towards me all the time, don't matter usually cause I'm just dicking around

But if you call me an idiot or try some racial slur you could get called out on your own things, so unless you want that better stick to the topic at hand.

If you play it ad hominem, don't be shocked if you get it back.

[Tasty]

Andy, I don't think the majority of people (here and elsewhere) are upset about DKC2 existing, just that Retro is behind it. That's even more justified considering all the rumors and speculations... that were admittedly mostly made up.

Also, fuck those people.

Retro

DKCR2

Entitled haters

This is like being pissed GRRM is doing another Fire and Ice book instead of some new shit nobody cares about.