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I think that'd be cool. How would you do combo attacks in that system though? Maybe O when next to another team member? Or perhaps Square or something so you don't do it by accident.

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I think that'd be cool. How would you do combo attacks in that system though? Maybe O when next to another team member? Or perhaps Square or something so you don't do it by accident.

People think that combos are gambits.

Set up gambit. Start fighting. Hold x to start gambit combo sequence.
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Surprised people aren't talking bout features like the magic system or that monsters that tend to dwell in caves come out at night, forcing your party to camp to scare them away.

http://gematsu.com/2014/09/final-fantasy-xv-director-talks-development-open-world-combat-demo

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Weather has a tactical impact on battle conditions, with different types of magic having varying effects depending on weather patterns. Using fire on a clear day, for example, will not only hurt monsters, but also ignite surrounding area, make allies feel hot, and the like. As such, using magic can be a liability to Noctis, too.

Excited for this game. It sounds cool. I'm just trying to figure out how the battle system works, but I'm sure that there's a miscommunication somewhere. Doesn't help Tabata isn't a PR guy.

Shame people aren't willing to give it a chance and have decided to start complaining about the CASUAL MENACE without realizing the irony that Final Fantasy is the most casual of jrpgs.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 01:01:28 AM by Queen of Ice »
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The more Tabata speaks about the battle system the more it seems like a step down from LR's great battle system.

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I modded FFVIII and it's fucking beautiful. :tocry the best its ever looked and sounded.

Will make video later!!!
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 02:03:29 AM by Queen of Ice »
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Cautiously optimistic for FFXV. Hope the gameplay can be half as good s XII. No faith in the story though. Characters have rubbed me the wrong way since they were introduced years ago and its just gotten worse.

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These are the results. I'm really impressed. My only issues so far: the stuttering in the intro as well as the clipping of the backgrounds (class room) or the weird black outlines at places like Ifrit's pit. I also have to say I don't like having to go through menus with an analog stick. Is there any way I can get over that? I need a d-pad. Other than that, it's easily the best way to play FF8, assuming mods are used.




:uguu

Be sure to view in 720p and have the music cranked!

Mods used:

Roses and Wine
SweetFX Shader Enhancement for FFVIII by Lital
Project Eden by Omzy
FMV replacement pack by Kayael

You can find them all here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/39150/discussions/0/648814213843615508/
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 04:24:29 AM by Queen of Ice »
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Damn, now I'm all excited for my FF series play through. But there's something wrong Himu, you didn't have the voice acting stuff.
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lol. totes listening to the best orchestrated FF ost today.

« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 12:45:07 PM by Queen of Ice »
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GOAT
« Last Edit: September 24, 2014, 04:34:33 PM by Queen of Ice »
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Honestly I think VIII behind VI and III is Uematsu's best work.
Although the musicologist in me really loves what he did in FFIX that's more "behind the scenes" than anything else.
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I see that screenshot and can only think

"Red! The blood of angry men! Black!"
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Might as well wait for HD ver.
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that sounds awesome Borys I wish I could play that on my PSP too :(

and to answer your question; no, only the PSP 2000 and later support video out

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Might as well wait for HD ver.

Borys playing pirated PSP games on his free PSP like a magus.
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ZephyrFate

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The HD version has not fixed the god awful camera Type-O has. Jesus christ

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Himu's vid tickling my nostalgia. Find your Way is one of my favorite tracks from VIII (second to Force Your Way). Now I just wanna listen to FF music.

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Himu's vid tickling my nostalgia. Find your Way is one of my favorite tracks from VIII (second to Force Your Way). Now I just wanna listen to FF music.

FF8 is the best game ever. I loved how powerful you felt in that game.

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Might as well wait for HD ver.

Borys playing pirated PSP games on his free PSP like a magus.

man you know guys, it's annoying being the butt of everything here, i post something on my terra battle thread and i have to see oscar "hur dur you are poor" i post something on the gamergate thread and "lol at magus feeling like being attacked for playing videogames" i'm not even doing anything here but somehow i'm still getting mentioned

can't i have some love for once? :punch
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do something worth loving, dude

man fuck you oscar, i'm sick of your assholishness, you'd think someone with a family would have better things to do than being a twat on the internet
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Well I love you :heart
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Ok here magoose: I appreciate your lengthy and thoughtfully written posts on generally unappreciated games. They're very informative, and your passion for the hobby comes through well.

I am not, on the other hand, going to give you high fives for standing up for #libertardgate and/or complaining about hitting a paywall in a f2p game.

i don't want high five but sometimes i feel picked on and it's frustating, can't we just fight each other without resorting to silly nickname and stuff :punch

Urgh I'm gagging from that saccharin

not saying anything else nice for another five years

i... i'm sorry :fbm

Well I love you :heart

and i love you too! you random citizen!
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Random...citizen? Eh?
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do something worth loving, dude

man fuck you oscar, i'm sick of your assholishness, you'd think someone with a family would have better things to do than being a twat on the internet

I have a family also

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Random...citizen? Eh?

it's a quote from megamind that was once used as an internet joke



sorry man, nickname stays. I nickname everyone. right himu-nommy-chan? at least you don't have the nickname I gave Dennis.

whatever, i'm not angry anymore, actualy sorry for crashing this thread guys

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well fuck you and your family too! :maf
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if you talked more about boktai and less about pedo shit I wouldn't be forced to be mean
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magus

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if you talked more about boktai and less about pedo shit I wouldn't be forced to be mean

oh sure like it's my fault that kojima is now all busy doing games about vagina bomb's
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Random...citizen? Eh?

it's a quote from megamind that was once used as an internet joke

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sorry man, nickname stays. I nickname everyone. right himu-nommy-chan? at least you don't have the nickname I gave Dennis.

whatever, i'm not angry anymore, actualy sorry for crashing this thread guys

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I have a family also

well fuck you and your family too! :maf

I have always been nice to you.

magus

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Random...citizen? Eh?

it's a quote from megamind that was once used as an internet joke

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sorry man, nickname stays. I nickname everyone. right himu-nommy-chan? at least you don't have the nickname I gave Dennis.

whatever, i'm not angry anymore, actualy sorry for crashing this thread guys

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I have a family also

well fuck you and your family too! :maf

I have always been nice to you.

oh! i tought you were telling me because you wanted me to be mean to you too :cody
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magus, I like the way you haven't changed your name 15 times like everyone else here.

Also I like the way you work it, no diggity, I got to bag it up.
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so I've been plugging away at Final Fantasy VIII and I've really been enjoying it! This was the first Final Fantasy I ever played but I got stuck shortly after starting disc 2 back when it came out (I was very young and knew nothing of RPGs) but this time around not only do I still love it but I'm rocketing through the game with ease. After playing a lot of different western and eastern RPGs and understanding fundementals like min/maxing, equipment and whatnot, this game still shines with ingenious gamepay design.

My next comment will probably have both haters and lovers of the game against me but I find this title to be in the same dogshed as XIII, insofar as it having a very unique battle system contained in an otherwise forgettable package that leaves the fanbase divided. The complete lack of equipment really shocked me at first, but once you start getting into GF abilities and how much they can alter your gameplay experience you start to see into the game's philosophy and how it wants you to play. My choices with regards to junctioning started getting so tactical that when the occasional tutorial popped up to explain one thing or another, it's hours late to something I was well into exploiting.

Stuff like ENC-None, MD-Mag-RF, and other abilities really empower you as the player and make a significant difference in the battles, as well as having the option to draw from any and everything you might face to further increase your options when you're armpits deep in menu-fu. To be fair I can see how that could alienate some, but what I love about this series is how different every game is and this one gets extra kudos for not only being different from FF at large, but being unique as an RPG in its own right.

I just got to the part where Balamb Garden lifts off. While I find the story to be mostly aimless, incoherent, and sophomoric, I haven't found any different in the FF titles from 7 onward and it doesn't detract from my experience but rather offers light hearted breaks in the action. I don't really find any of the Laguna sideplot interesting in the slightest and everything except Squall's development as a more headstrong leader is sleep-inducing at best.

Regardless, I don't plan on stopping anytime soon and I hope this will be the first FF I see through to the end. My party is powerful where it's at, I picked up Diablos as soon as I got the magical lamp, scored Carbuncle, but missed Brothers sadly (though I think I can go back for them?). I'll update y'all if I make it to the third disc.

Oh and the music is kickass :rock


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raban gets it
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I have always HATED when people counter criticisms of their games with "Well, you just don't know how to play it."

But with FFVIII, that's actually very true. I get people's problems with it, but if you do a little bit of thinking it's a really really great game and has tons of features every game should have.
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It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.

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Also, even though the story is sophomoric, the story pacing is GOAT. You go from a mercenary mission in faux Paris to a train mission, two flashbacks starring Laguna, a witch assassination, a prison break, a missile base stealth mission, an infighting war over leadership at the garden, and then the garden war at the end of the season disc. FF8 is action set piece after set piece, and full of memorable moments, so saying it's a forgettable package seem incorrect given that in VII you're chasing some boring fucker half the game.

FF8's pacing impresses me every damn time I play it and even if the story is fucking stupid, the lore and history always keep me interested. I mean, it's a game where children are turned into pmc's and no one bats an eye. Shit is fucking normal. Fascinating.
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It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
dat visual style tho
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It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.

:umad
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http://m.

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It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
yeah I don't get that. haven't played a single game of triple triad and the game is still perfectly balanced and fun when you make smart decisions about which GF abilities to acquire and junctioning magic/abilities consistently. I agree with your criticisms of the fiction, tho.

Also, even though the story is sophomoric, the story pacing is GOAT. You go from a mercenary mission in faux Paris to a train mission, two flashbacks starring Laguna, a witch assassination, a prison break, a missile base stealth mission, an infighting war over leadership at the garden, and then the garden war at the end of the season disc. FF8 is action set piece after set piece, and full of memorable moments, so saying it's a forgettable package seem incorrect given that in VII you're chasing some boring fucker half the game.

FF8's pacing impresses me every damn time I play it and even if the story is fucking stupid, the lore and history always keep me interested. I mean, it's a game where children are turned into pmc's and no one bats an eye. Shit is fucking normal. Fascinating.
yeah I'll admit the pacing is enjoyable, with the setpiece-to-setpiece comment definitely ringing true. You get boss battles out the anus too so you still feel engaged without ever fighting the boring field battles. I just find it unsettling that the plots of FF games start from such meagre beginnings and spiral out into save-the-universe epics with such agility and no logical explanation to carry you there. You'd think for a game series where the average length is in the dozens of hours that they'd be slower burns but instead you get a really front-loaded story with terribly drawn out second and third acts.

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FFX is the FF to play if you want story in my opinion. It's about defeating Sin from beginning to end. It doesn't even matter if you beat Sin or not. sin's been there for one thousand years already, so even if you lose, nothing will change from the beginning of the game since Sin is already a pervasive presence. Every other FF except VI gets stupid as shit. X keeps it moving.

This is another area where Dragon Quest stomps the shit out of FF. FF tards give DQ shit because the stories are simple, but DQ uses this as an advantage. You can be simple and yet well told. FF is neither.

And this is why FFVIII a kicks ass. It gets stupid but goddamit, what an action packed rpg. MORE PLEASE.
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Yeah I'll definitely get back to X but having played it up to where you fight Seymour the second time I remember having the same issues about things exploding from personal to anything but in the story. Knowing how the game ends though I guess it comes back full circle to being about Tidus and his father but iirc there's still a lot of nonsensical story beats in-between.

EDIT: To be fair I don't come to FF for its story. Just like I can forgive Other M and MGS' batshit insane writing for the stronger elements within, FF has always charmed me with downright awe-inspiring production values (even when you play the older games it's apparent that no other game holds a candle to it for the era), enchanting music, and personally I love all the memorable and colorful character designs, no matter how outrageously impractical they are.
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It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
yeah I don't get that. haven't played a single game of triple triad and the game is still perfectly balanced and fun when you make smart decisions about which GF abilities to acquire and junctioning magic/abilities consistently. I agree with your criticisms of the fiction, tho.

Also, even though the story is sophomoric, the story pacing is GOAT. You go from a mercenary mission in faux Paris to a train mission, two flashbacks starring Laguna, a witch assassination, a prison break, a missile base stealth mission, an infighting war over leadership at the garden, and then the garden war at the end of the season disc. FF8 is action set piece after set piece, and full of memorable moments, so saying it's a forgettable package seem incorrect given that in VII you're chasing some boring fucker half the game.

FF8's pacing impresses me every damn time I play it and even if the story is fucking stupid, the lore and history always keep me interested. I mean, it's a game where children are turned into pmc's and no one bats an eye. Shit is fucking normal. Fascinating.
yeah I'll admit the pacing is enjoyable, with the setpiece-to-setpiece comment definitely ringing true. You get boss battles out the anus too so you still feel engaged without ever fighting the boring field battles. I just find it unsettling that the plots of FF games start from such meagre beginnings and spiral out into save-the-universe epics with such agility and no logical explanation to carry you there. You'd think for a game series where the average length is in the dozens of hours that they'd be slower burns but instead you get a really front-loaded story with terribly drawn out second and third acts.

That's why the FF8 is broken criticisms are always silly to me. You can break every FF. If you're breaking the game in a matter of minutes that should honestly be reflected on the player. You can break FFVI in literally minutes. I can use a JP glitch in FFT and gain 99999999 job points and max whole classes in less than 30 minutes. Bububu cards.
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cool we're back to the "all games can be broken" talk
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:lol You can blame Zephyr for that. :yeshrug I'm not interested in talking about it beyond that point.

Any who, one thing I've always thought FF did were worlds more so than stories. Their stories are stupid. But their worlds are a fascinating mix of sci-fi, fantasy, and in the 3d entries, modernity. The worlds often have cool cultures and ideas. But the thing is, I think that's true for most games and especially rpgs. Like, Skyrim's story is pretty lol but dammit, if the lore doesn't get hot. When it comes to games, usually it's a good idea to assume that the game world > the game story. Sad, but true. I'm not sure how that even works out.
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That's because we can't talk about FF8 without zephyr saying he hates it.

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i swear to god half of the FF talk on the bore is arguing about ff8
well it's the most homoerotic FF until FFXV comes out. it makes sense.

@himu stop blaming zeph, I'm cool with that dude.

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I'd say 14 is pretty gay given the pics that have been posted in this thread. :obama

I love Zeph he knows im just giving him shit
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re: worlds vs story, i think it's because most games are made by gamers, and it's highly likely most rpgs are made by people who are interested in rpgs.

making a great game world requires excellent descriptions of systems and objects working together in a sensible way. i'd argue the ff games didn't start doing this well until ff6 (kitase), by the way, but after that, it's been one of the series' few standout points.

a good story, on the other hand, requires believable, complex human beings interacting and reacting without falling into idiotic tropes literally 100% of the time.

if i may broadly stereotype, the average RPG fan, and thus the average RPG creator, has a lot of skill at thinking up detailed, functional systems, but not much skill at socializing and understanding real human beings. and even if they do differ from that type, the audience is believed to fit it to a tee and stereotypical shitty characters end up shoved in by the suits anyway.

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14 has love for everyone. Even has an upcoming marriage system that doesn't discriminate by race or gender.  :heart

One of my favorite FF stories is actuallly 5's. Amidst all the melodramatic nonsense that FF's tried to do since the second game, FF5 is relatively light hearted and plays up the comedic factor as "we're aware that this is a video game, let's just have fun with it." Ex. Everything that has to do with Gilgamesh.

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Which ends up making a sharp contrast when Exdeath finally gets introduced and starts killing off people and destroying towns left and right.
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Really wish there were easier ways to play FF5 in English without having to brave the piracy waters for a GBA copy, playing the awful PS1 version or stabbing your eyes out with the Mobile version.

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Gilgamesh :rejoice :rofl

sunblade, buy a gpa sp and a copy of FFV.
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 :bow FF5 :bow2

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It's also a really really awful game with a dogshit plot, Michael Bay-esque character development, and a functionally broken gameplay system that can be abused and taken to the woodshed within just a few games of cards.
dat visual style tho
Like FFXIII, the visual style would be great if it wasn't an incoherent mish-mash of aesthetic design all over the place. FF8 was clearly developed with no real solid vision. Thankfully, FFIX was much better at that.

sunblade, buy a gpa sp and a copy of FFV.

Already have both! I've done the Four Job Fiesta for a few years now on my GBA copy (cept for one year where I piled up the challenges way too much and wasn't having fun). Got Thief and Berserker as my first two jobs this year and it was hell:maf I was just mentioning that I wish other people couple play FF5 easier. I'd like to retire my gba sp some day.

I mentioned before that I don't do rankings, but FF5 is my GOAT FF. Can never get tired of how flexible the game is at letting you play it however the hell you want.

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I'm the same way with 8, 12, and 5. :rejoice OPTIONS :rejoice
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I have a legit copy of V on GBA, will play on my Micro or GBPlayer some day.

And man I wanna get into IX so bad but the battle system is boring, cookie-cutter garbage. iirc there's no gimmicks or stat customization at all, just DQ style linear stat-ups and characters locked in classes. Yawn.


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raban, 5 also has three female main characters, and they all kick ass. one is a pirate who pretends to be a man and shit. best ever
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Krile is the only one I dislike. But also i think that name that is awful.