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Lucretius

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I've been maining Paladin for Final Coil.  Used to main Dragoon.  I'm assuming they'll give Dragoon more raid utility in Heavenward since they're featuring it so much in the trailers.  I may have to twist our Monk's arm to level a Paladin for Alexander so I can Jump on monsters again.
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studyguy

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You know I haven't even beaten T13 yet.
Today's the day though. Just a matter of actually getting my static off its ass and trying for more than 30 minutes one day a week.

Just gotta finish those Anks and it's a wrap.
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Lucretius

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What server are you on?
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SpeedStats

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I finished Final Fantasy 1 last night.  Well, I played it twice in two days. I started one White Mage run with the NES version where I can't revive anyone if they die or get stoned and I was not allowed to upgrade to White Wizard, etc.  So by the time I got to Tiamat, I only had two White Mages left.  One died against the Water Shrine ghosts.  The other died since he got hit too hard in a random battle while poisoned.

Well, Sunblade jinxed me by mentioning the Warmech, and I ended up running into the damn Warmech on the bridge.  He went Nuclear on my party so I lost that challenge.  I was pretty sad!  I was on-track to beating the game in 7-8 hours, so getting beat up right before Tiamat was disappointing!

I started another run the next day with the PSP version, but Sunblade assigned my party: Black Belt, Thief, Red Mage, White Mage.  It was completely doable.  I was also allowed to upgrade.  I ended up finishing that run in 9.5 hours (pretty disappointing, but I ended up leaving the game idling for a little bit, so maybe that factored in).  Sunblade started his run when I started my first WM run, so I think it's semi-admirable that I caught up to him enough during my second run that we both beat the game an hour apart from each other.  I also had tremendous luck and ran into the Warmech AGAIN in my PSP run but I didn't wanna fight him since it felt like it was taking a while. 

:bow MUTE/INVS/SABR/FAST all day erryday  :bow2

So that makes it:
Final Fantasy I - NES - WM/WM/WM/WM - DNF (1 WM dead after Earth Cave, 1 WM dead against Water Shrine Ghosts, 2 WM dead because of NUCLEAR)
Final Fantasy I - PSP - NIN/WW/RW/MAS - Finished (Lv 44, did not do extra dungeons; 9h 31m <- bit disappointing!)

Final Fantasy II is next, but I'm not starting that until next week, and Sunblade never played it before.  I gave him a few tips on how to play it since I genuinely like FF2, so I'm giving him a few days to get used to the game before I jump in.  Plus I wanted time to beat another game and start a Legendary Starfy playthrough with someone else.

The camera pans ridiculously fast and they added an HD motion blur effect to it. It's migraine inducing at times.

Ugh, yeah, that sounds like it'd suck.  I guess there's no way to adjust the sensitivity, but even then if there's motion blur, it's still gonna be a headache to deal with.  That's really a bummer!  I was hoping the camera would be much better.

studyguy

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I play on Hyperion. Shame that the game isn't more open for cross-server stuff.

I'm trying to get my FC friends started with a static of our own, we're just one person short so we'd have to pug him/ask other friends for help. We still haven't done T9, but I'm hopeful of our chances at beating T13 before Heavensward.

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He loves you.

I HAVE played FF2 before, just never gotten close to beating it. Going through FF1 again was fun though, even if a lot easier than I remember it being. Though not having a Black Mage for group attacks really sucked. Red Mage is so garbage in FF1.

SpeedStats

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Fuck you.  You did that to me.  :maf

Also, yeah RM is garbage.  Being a jack of all trades is useless if you can't do everything competently and have to rely on using equipment as items.

studyguy

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My static was a noshow  :-\
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Narolf

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My static was a noshow  :-\

Sucks.  :goty2

Hope you have better luck on your next scheduled date.

Started Final Fantasy 2 today. SpeedStats baby'd me through the earlier parts so now I actually understand what I'm doing in regards to raising my party and getting stronger. Playing the PS1 version, which I've heard is the hardest (not including NES). Having a lot more fun with it, Kawazu's blasted empty rooms of hell be damned.

SpeedStats

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You need to respect Lord Kawazu-sama's work.  He knew what he was doin'.

PS1 version isn't necessarily the hardest, but it's probably the most balanced version available in English.  PSP/GBA has stats growing faster than the PS1 version.

I'm a bit glad I helped you along at the beginning to prevent you from playing it like how people think it should be played since that way you'll progress through the game much faster than just staying in one place and not progressing at all.  The game's balanced enough to play naturally instead of beating yourself up.  I appreciate the game, honestly.  It's one of my faves in the series not just because of its soundtrack being not as lofty and because of its narrative/lots of good ideas, but also because I sorta appreciate the numbers behind the growth/stat system.

I'll start it next week but it'll take a while for me to catch up.  Move on to FF3 when you're finished; don't wait for me.

I started Final Fantasy Gaiden and I'm getting through it faster than I expected.  I'm at Guera now, but I want to stop and read my book for a bit.  I still like it!  I'm used to inventories being limited per character in other games, and while it's not much of a luxury in terms of modern game design, I like that you can blast through it without relying so much on your inventory.  You really don't need to because you should be balancing your party setup around it to mitigate relying so much on expendables. 


I mean I figured "smack your own party to death" wasn't the way the game was designed, I just had no idea what the proper way to start things up was. I'll probably have to keep using spells on myself though, cause actually casting them on enemies won't ever get them leveled up at a reasonable pace. :zzz

I'll level up that dang toad spell for the perks, but I prob won't cheese boss fights with it. Would rather take 'em on proper.

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I remember boss fights in the game being annoying af. I could go thru a whole dungeon one-shotting every enemy, but using the same attacks against the boss would do 0 dmg. you're supposed to exploit the bosses weaknesses, but when you've been casting spells the whole dungeon sometimes you just don't have mp to finish the fight.

and fuck those empty rooms
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Yeah, those have been a mixed bag. I get the Adamantoise having high defense (tho fuck running into him as a random encounter in the dungeon RIGHT AFTER), but I ended up being the Shreiker in whats its name castle by using Shell to survive all its magic waves then chipping away 4-20 HP at a time until it died cause it absorbed all magic. I can't imagine that's the way he was intended to be beaten, but I didn't seem to have much of a choice.

But now I can reliably kill the Captains in Flynn, so my stats are soaaaaaring. :lawd

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yeah just wait. in a dungeon or two you're gonna walk in, hit an enemy, and be like "wait wtf?? I thought I was doing pretty good!"
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SpeedStats

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Hopefully that doesn't happen with the way I've been trying to teach him how to play the game.  I remember that happening to me in the NES ver but after a few runs of the game, I finally figured out how to play it on my terms.

I like SaGa games, so I like weird obtuse shit for god knows why.

Edit: I said that and Sunblade does a dumb thing and cast Toad on Gordon but forgot to realize that you can't use it out of battle and he doesn't have Esuna to lv 4. PLS.
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so what is the good way to level up?  I'm tempted against my better judgement to play the game again someday
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It was right before Gordon leaves the party, so no big deal. If Cid could rule Lindblum as an oglop, Gordon can lead the rebel army as a frog. :shh

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so what is the good way to level up?  I'm tempted against my better judgement to play the game again someday

Hitting yourself
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bad demi
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SpeedStats

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so what is the good way to level up?  I'm tempted against my better judgement to play the game again someday

Well, I'd suggested to Sunblade, since he hasn't beaten the game before, to play the PSP version since everything levels up faster in that version.  He chose the PS1 version, though, so he's had to deal with everything levelling up in a more balanced way as opposed to being a little easier on him. 

The game truly is balanced enough to facilitate you doing everything naturally after the beginning.  You just have to do a little bit of work at the beginning and then let it flow like a river.  Let your hair down, etc.

The best thing to do is to stop hitting yourself with one exception:  when you get Minwu, cast Sap/Anti/Faze (same spell, just different name depending on the version) on Maria and Firion to increase their MP.  Hitting yourself and leaving a rock on X or B is boring and it artificially inflates your play time.  Don't do it.  Leave everyone in the front row if you want their HP to increase that badly.

You don't even need to bother increasing MP with Guy; he's a hitter, he hits things.  You can give him a spell if you'd like and increase his MP to 100 with Sap but I generally don't see a need to do it.  His stats are not conducive to spellcasting to me, and I used to level up his MP and give him magic until I realized that his stats aren't for that at all.

So:

Firion: The most balanced guy. Magic stats are on par with physical stats so it's best to make him whatever you want.  I go with making him like a paladin or something.  I usually gave him swords and lances.  The biggest risk to Firion, if you were raising him as a paladin in the NES version was that giving him a sword would destroy his Spirit stat (and his intelligence stat) since they lowered those stats by 50!  Blood Sword lowers it by 100.  That risk doesn't exist in the PS1 version and beyond, so it isn't problematic to do so.  Giving him a lance in the NES version would lower it by 40 which isn't as bad as the 50 but it's still a dramatic drop.

Maria: The highest intelligence, the worst attack, the worst HP growth, the highest agility.  She's the best out of the three suited to be a Black Mage-like character.  I think it's kind of obvious as to where to take her here.  I stuck her with Staves and Daggers.  In the NES version, daggers and staves would give a -5 penalty to Intelligence/Spirit but that's WAY better than hte -70 that the bows take off.  None of these penalties exist in the PS1 version and beyond, but I usually stuck to daggers and staves.

Guy: Highest strength, HP.  Has high stamina.  Has the lowest Agility stat (meaning that 95% of the time he'll take the last hit... and if you're a spellcaster you don't want super-low agility here).  I guess if you wanted to give him spells, give him buffs that are unaffected by Spirit/Intelligence like Haste, Protect, Shell, etc.  I don't know if I'd agree with that since he'd probably be the last character to complete an action during a round and you'd probably need the buff at the beginning of the round, but it's up to you.  I usually stick him with Axes or barehanded.

Don't make everyone a jack of all trades.  That's the worst thing you can do, since you'll be spending a ton of time levelling everything up instead of actually playing the game.  And that's boring.  Give everyone 1-2 weapons to concentrate on and that's it.  No more otherwise you'll end up spending too much money on stuff you don't need and spending too much time levelling up weapons that you don't need to work with. I usually class everyone right at the beginning (ex: Firion is my paladin-like character, Maria's my Black Mage, and Guy is my monk; it's more effective that way, and it makes the game dramatically easier for me).  Level up weapons to Lv 2 at the beginning.  Some go to Lv 3 but you don't need to.  If you're playing the GBA/PSP version, though, things will level up faster than expected, so I guess you'll have an easier time with it.

When you first start playing, just buy Fire/Ice (you could buy thunder but I don't see why you'd immediately need it since not a lot of enemies at the beginning are weak against it), Cure, Raise, Esuna, and get them to Level 2-3.  I've seen people say get them to level 3 and then progress, but I don't feel like it's necessary in the GBA/PSP versions of the game.  So after you level up your spells a little bit at the beginning, just play the game normally.  The game's balanced enough that you don't need to grind things out or hit yourself.  After that you don't have to worry about stats at all because you've classed everyone and the game's balanced appropriately to keep everyone in check since you're accustomed to using everything in a class-based way.

Play the Snowcraft minigame.  There's a real good cheat out there on how to instawin every time and you'll get tons of money every time you play it (ex: play it once and write down where the cards are, when you're finished the game, say you want to play again, but then cancel the game.  When it asks if you wanna quit, say no, and repeat cancel the game/no i don't want to quit options 31 times, and it'll reload the first game you play so you can redo the first board again).  You can get some decent armour and some money from the game and it's easy enough to not have to do the cheat.

Could go to the swamp/peninsula of power near Finn and kill the enemies with magic to level some class-specific stuff up and get some cash.  Use said cash to go to Mysidia to buy stuff.  Then resume the game like normal.  Don't have to hit yourself or grind anything after that. 

And when all else fails just cast toad on everything after you get it, I guess.

I mean, SaGa/Legend of Legacy kinda uses the same levelling progression too, but with some tweaks, so that's why I'm used to it now.  FF2's system is just a barebones version of it.  I just hate grinding in any RPG since I feel like it wastes a lot of time, so I tried to make FF2 easier enough to prevent myself from doing it.  Since it worked out for me and since it's worked out with Sunblade, I guess the method works provided you aren't playing the NES version.  FF2 is just one of those games that gets better on nearly every re-release.

Assembled the static tonight (minus one person who is on an island vacation) to get our newest member through Turn 5 and Turn 6. We're definitely in a good spot in regard to jobs cause all of us are flexible enough that we can Duty Finder up a random DPS to fill in our missing 8th slot, if one of our big dick t13 farm friends can't make it. Had a few wipes while our newbies got the hang of mechanics, but otherwise went smoothly. Just from how tonight went, I think I ended up as designated raid leader for the time being. I've got high hopes for this team.  :obama

In FF2 news, I discovered the spell select glitch for leveling spells entirely on my own, then looked it up to confirm it. I used it to raise fire/ice/bolt/toad to level 5-6, but won't use it more than that. Just got them to a level where I'd actually consider using them over magic.

SpeedStats

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I didn't tell you about Select/Cancel for a reason!  >:(

Don't tell me this was what you were doin' while I was watching the MvP fight.

Nah that was last night. And I just said that I wouldn't abuse it!  :bolo

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I definitely am; I think speedstats and sunblade are too
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demi

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Speedstats plays the Japanese version, but I play the English one yeah. You'll be waiting a long while for FF12 dungeons, but 13 should be in the next content patch.

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I'm almost done with all the content in the English release of Record Keeper. Right now I'm auto-battling my way through the last FF6 Elite event.

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they just put out a Celes event yesterday
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SpeedStats

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Speedstats plays the Japanese version, but I play the English one yeah. You'll be waiting a long while for FF12 dungeons, but 13 should be in the next content patch.

Yeah, I still play the JP version.  We have a Gold Saucer event going on right now that gives us lots of money and lots of XP, and there are lots of cute HUD stuff going on with it.  Otherwise, we get Cloud's Rebirth Crystal (lets him get up to Lv 65) and a Terra reprint event (after which I'm sure that we'll get her as a quest character like we do for Tifa, Lenna, Sephiroth, etc).

I did try to play the English version but I don't like the barebones version of the game after progressing so much in the JP version so I decided to drop it.

I haven't progressed much in the History stages since the events eat up my time, though.  I still have to play through a few updates to catch up to the current update release.

So I beat Final Fantasy II yesterday. Again, thanks to Speedstats for teaching me how to play the game right and avoid the usual "hit yourself to win" pitfalls that made me dislike the game whenever I tried it before. Going through the whole thing was pretty smooth sailing and I never felt underpowered relative to the things I was fighting, tho I did kind of just stop using magic altogether at one point aside from buffs and offensive magic to kill flans with. I even killed the four generals in Pandemonium just by holding down the X button while my party tore them to pieces. Definitely feel like the game is open enough where I could get away with that if I built my party towards it from the start, which I did.

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Just leaves FF3 as the only mainline non-MMO FF that I haven't beaten. I'll be doing the Famicom version of that since I'm told its infinitely better than the 3D remake, which I'm inclined to believe.

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And going by what you've been saying to me all night, you like the Famicom version~  Glad I can help, brooooo. 

I'm going through FFII myself, with the PSP version cuz of mishaps with the Origins version (and in all honesty, I could've just picked the FC version and ran with that one).  In hindsight, it's a good thing cuz I can show and tell Sunblade the differences between the PSP one and the more-balanced Origins version.   I'm at the Dreadnought now, and I think that's pretty good progress considering I've been getting pulled away from playing stuff all the damn time today. It sucks cuz I see Sunblade talking up FF3 and I wish I'd started FF2 when I saw that he was halfway through the game. 

Instead, I chose to finish 4 Heroes of Light last night instead.  It was a ~29h run, and 4HoL is still a damn good game: very cohesive.  It has an artstyle, musical motifs and musical style, method of dialogue/enough colloquial text/lexicon, narrative, and character design that meshed together very very well without making something feel like it was out of the loop.  I think I like it more than BD in some ways. 

So I did end up going for broke and played a spinoff.  Could probably go mainline -> spinoff -> mainline but I think that might be too much, haha.

You have enough games to play this summer without throwing in spinoffs into this playthrough.  :wag Just stick to the numbered games.

(I'll allow you to play Mystic Quest, but only because I know you can beat that in like a day.)

Kara

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Why is there no PSN version of 12 for PS Triple. :stahp

Same reason the PSP versions of 1 and 2 aren't available digitally.  :-\

I hope there's a remaster or something announced by the time I get to FF12. Would be a pain to have to buy another PS2 just to play that game.

SpeedStats

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Why is there no PSN version of 12 for PS Triple. :stahp

I wouldn't be surprised if they did a remaster sooner or later since that's what everyone else is doing.  Plus it's easy moneys if you port it over 3000 times.

Lucretius

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Same reason the PSP versions of 1 and 2 aren't available digitally.  :-\

I hope there's a remaster or something announced by the time I get to FF12. Would be a pain to have to buy another PS2 just to play that game.

What exactly is the reason for the PSP versions of 1 and 2 (the Anniversary editions) not being on PSN?  I'd really love to play those on my Vita.
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demi

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cuz square is jewish. ya i said it. jewish.

just buy the iOS versions, arent they literally the same thing
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Same reason the PSP versions of 1 and 2 aren't available digitally.  :-\

I hope there's a remaster or something announced by the time I get to FF12. Would be a pain to have to buy another PS2 just to play that game.

What exactly is the reason for the PSP versions of 1 and 2 (the Anniversary editions) not being on PSN?  I'd really love to play those on my Vita.



They probably don't feel like putting up two separate, not as popular games on PSN is worth the cost over just sticking the PS1 classic up there which covers both.

I don't like playing retrofitted RPGs on mobile.  :-\

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and I love the old ff games but god damn it is way beyond past time for square to do something with the ps1 trilogy. I mean we're coming up on ff7s 20th anniversary ffs. the most we've gotten with the games is digital rerelease on steam and PlayStation, and 9 never even made it to pc. they could've gave us phone ports by now, and more than that they could've easily added on some more content. I know it ain't that hard to digitize some pics, palette swap some monsters, and call it a day. just do SOMETHING ffs instead of letting the games fade away.
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I suspect that had the PSP been more successful software-wise, the PS1 triology would have made it on there.
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SpeedStats

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I finished off FF2 two days ago.  I had a super-fun time, especially since I was playing it with someone else who seemed to enjoy it, and I talked about the game with other people.  It's still one of my top six games, I think.  I promised to play the Origins version when I finish my series playthrough since playing that version didn't really work out in terms of getting the game and getting it running on something well enough since I couldn't even find my copy of it.

I started FF3 Famicom, which is another one of my favourites.  Not much else to say other than the fact that I had to do some other stuff lately so I haven't been able to progress as fast in it as I did in FF1/2.  Someone suggested that I play an alternate translation of FF3 since it added a B-dash and a bunch of other things, so I'm trying it out and I feel like it really is way too literal but the perks are pretty cool.  Some of the text boxes are so stuffed with dialogue that are literally translated at times (and some names/towns are super-literally translated, like Desh's or Kazus's) that it can be hard to parse at times.  I can't say which translation I like more since both of them seem to have their merits, and I have a copy of the Japanese game for my Famicom so I can't complain.  B-dash is definitely appreciated since walk speeds can be slow.

Anyway, FF3 is fun.  I love this game.  It sucks that we never got that WSC re-release.  I would've bought it. :/

You're welcome.  ;)

I started FF3 Famicom as well. Like I told Speedstats before, I think this game is really hohum as a 3D game (on DS, PSP and Steam), but really impressive as a Famicom game. It's the first time I play a post FF1 famicom title, so I'm just mindblown by how complex the game is on a fucking NES. The job system and all its underlying mechanics, the overall quick speed at which everything loads compared to FF1 as well as the battle speed, etc. A lot of times I don't even have to hit fast forward on the emulator cause the game plays at a quick enough pace that I'm not bothered by it. Also tons of charm to the game that I didn't see coming, I thought it'd be as stiff as the script for the first game.











My biggest fear before playing was being put off by the Job capacity system thinking it'd be just as bad as the remake's Job Fatigue, but its been a total non-issue so far. This is definitely the best version of the game to play.

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I would have loved to have played a GBA port of FFIII.
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chalk up another of the superior remastered tracks i totally forgot to look up until now.

Narolf

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Never understood the hate for the Remastered OST.
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Kara

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FF fans hate change; which begs the question, why aren't they Dragon Quest fans instead?

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That's true, DQ fans are more stable.
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FF fans hate change; which begs the question, why aren't they Dragon Quest fans instead?

DQ changed a lot with the past 2 entries tho.  :-\
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Almost finished FF3.  I finished the Cave of Darkness so I should be getting set to do a few more things and then get to Eureka~

This alternative fan translation is something else, lol.  But I forgot how dark FF3 can get.  Some of the stories are small vignettes and deal with different things.



I think I'm having more fun seeing how literal the alternate translation is than comparing it with the original fantranslation.  It's so... interesting.  The guy's name is Gigameth/Gigames, not Gilgamesh.  Bit interesting how they went with Gilgamesh in this translation, haha.  I guess that's what you'd get out of ギガメス if you think too hard.

FF fans hate change; which begs the question, why aren't they Dragon Quest fans instead?

DQ changed a lot with the past 2 entries tho.  :-\

Exactly.  Tons of people seem to like Dragon Quest 9 and its new direction while I don't like it at all.  It's one of my least-fave DQ games.  Lots of people (fans and newcomers alike) say some good things about Dragon Quest X but I wouldn't know.  I don't think you can play it outside of Japan anymore.  I should ask.  I wouldn't be averse to trying it out for a little bit.

chalk up another of the superior remastered tracks i totally forgot to look up until now.

Yeah, when I reviewed the soundtrack, I had noticed that most of the tracks that are generally disliked are the ones that were originally composed by Hamauzu, and they are fairly overarranged in some spots within context.  Out of context, however, the music sounds fine, and the mixing on the soundtrack (and the soundtrack packaging) is fairly good.  The ones I like the most are the original Nakano tracks.  I've never had much love for most of the Uematsu tunes on the soundtrack since I felt that they were his weakest in the series altogether with a few exceptions. 

The arrangement and the mixing of At the End of the Abyss/Beyond the Darkness whatever you want to call it sounds pretty good.
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Tonight's the fucking night. Time to fuck up Bahamut.
Assuming everyone shows up.
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Kara

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Back off you nerds, the recent changes to Dragon Quest are the crux of the joke I made. :snoop

Joe Molotov

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Back off you nerds, the recent changes to Dragon Quest are the crux of the joke I made. :snoop

They made a Dragon Quest game after VIII?
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SpeedStats

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Back off you nerds, the recent changes to Dragon Quest are the crux of the joke I made. :snoop

Should've said "Dragon Quest music".

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Since DQ9/10's soundtracks aren't very good.  :teehee
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Tonight's the fucking night. Time to fuck up Bahamut.
Assuming everyone shows up.

Once you get to the final phase, you can clear.  And once you clear, you'll find you can farm it pretty quickly.
Good luck!
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studyguy

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Tonight's the fucking night. Time to fuck up Bahamut.
Assuming everyone shows up.

Once you get to the final phase, you can clear.  And once you clear, you'll find you can farm it pretty quickly.
Good luck!

We're already there. The real struggle is showing up to the fight tbh
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